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Getting a laptop

#1

blotsfan

blotsfan

So, my laptop is showing signs of being on its way out, and I'm finally gonna bite the bullet on a new one. Unfortunately, I don't know shit about computer hardware. I have found this site as a good place to customize laptops, but I'm not much of a gamer so I feel like I might be spending on stuff that I really don't need. I do want to do some programming so I'd like a good amount of memory and storage, though I'd prefer the storage to be in SSDs just because it seems like those are way better for the long run.

Sorry if this is too vague, but basically I don't really know anything in detail about this stuff and I don't even know where would be a good place to look. I have never had a laptop beyond straight off the shelf, and this is the first time I'm buying one myself so I can really decide what I want.


#2

phil

phil

My last toshiba lasted like 7 years so I got a new one thats been super great so far as well.

Link

I dunno if that link is working right and that I'm bad with links.

Toshiba Satellite C55‑C5380 Laptop just google that or something I dunno.


#3

ncts_dodge_man

ncts_dodge_man

Even if you aren't a gamer, you can still base things off what you are going to be doing like a desktop - someone who's just browsing the web wouldn't need as high of specs as someone doing audio work, drawing, programming, etc. You just lose most of the ability to upgrade later without a full replacement.

Other things to consider:
  • How large of a screen vs how portable do you want it? The smaller the screen size, the lighter it might be (depending on battery)
  • Battery life - are you going to spend a lot of time "unplugged" and on the go? If you're going to be "on the go" without being plugged in, you'll want good battery life and/or a second battery.
  • Warranty - being a laptop and being portable, you'll probably want to get as good of a warranty as you can.
I personally have a MSI gaming laptop with dual video cards (one for browsing/general use and one for gaming), 12 GB of RAM, i7 processor, and it's 17.5" screen, but the battery life is horrible - am lucky if I get an hour of battery life. My initial warranty was for 1 year, but I got an additional accidental damage plan for another 2 years afterwards.

Here's some links for you to get you some knowledge to start with:

Laptop buying guide

Best and Worst laptop brands

Best laptops of 2016

Longest battery life laptops


#4

PatrThom

PatrThom

I've found notebookcheck.net to be an absolutely invaluable resource when comparing notebook specs.
But yes, your primary concerns are going to be (in as best an order as I think I can manage):
-Screen size
-Battery life (is it important? Will you always be on mains power when gaming?)
-SSD/HDD, do you want fast/big, respectively?
-RAM - try not to get anything less than 8GB
-Ports - can you plug in all your stuff?

As a ballpark figure, I would set an expectation to spend $800-ish for something solid that'll have at least a few years in it.

--Patrick


#5

strawman

strawman

- I'm not much of a gamer
- I do want to do some programming
- I'd prefer the storage to be in SSDs
- I have never had a laptop beyond straight off the shelf
Well, given that I'd focus on the following:

- Memory, get minimum 16GB
- 4 core processor, with programming you're going to be running several apps at once, and the compiler can make use of the cores
- Screen resolution, With programming you really do want more pixels, again you'll have several programs running at once
- SSD, Yes, definitely.

Beyond that you need to figure out how often you plan on moving or carrying it. If you're carrying it everywhere with you and pulling it out in a variety of places, do NOT get a 17" laptop. Not unless you already know that you cannot live with a 15" screen.

Gaming laptops suck way too much power. It's not worth it unless you're a heavy gamer, so don't get high end stuff, and in fact the latest Intel HD mobile graphics stuff is perfectly fine for the average gamer, but is much nicer on battery life.

If you're already considering an expensive laptop (and anything over $1,200 is "expensive" for the purposes of my post) and you believe you'll be using it on battery power a lot, then you should seriously consider a Macbook Pro. It'll cost twice as much as similar hardware outside apple, but the battery charger/controller is years ahead of any other laptop maker. The batteries last longer (charge/discharge cycles), and they last longer (use time between charging). Now, you're going to be running windows on it, so it simply won't be as good as if you're running OSX in terms of power usage, but it'll still be significantly better than windows on any other off the shelf laptop. My 2011 17" macbook pro with AMD graphics and a 4 core processor five years later still gives me 3-4 hours of general usage, and when new it gave me 8 hours. Today they're chasing the thin/light dragon, but they still try to give you 8 hours of wifi/internet/video usage, which is a step above most off the shelf laptops.

While the apple screens and keyboards are very, very good, unless you're really interested in battery life then they probably don't justify the additional cost, and, again, battery life shouldn't be a concern unless you plan on using it away from a plug several times a week for extended periods. Any laptop you get now will do just about any kind of work for 2 hours at a time without being plugged in, and will charge quickly when plugged in.

Try to get a laptop with an M.2 or soldered on SSD. It'll be faster and more efficient than a SATA SSD, in both performance and energy cost, and the cost difference isn't significant.


#6

PatrThom

PatrThom

Some looking around shows that if you're looking for something in the 15" range that you can game on for a while (i.e., with the latest Pascal GPU), then you will expect to pay about $1750 for the privilege. If you are willing to compromise with "last year's" graphics card (Maxwell), you can expect to pay $750-$1000 list price.

--Patrick


#7

blotsfan

blotsfan

Thanks for all the advice. I went with the following in case anyone cares:

Sager NP8152 Notebook

Components
- 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ Processor ( 6MB Smart Cache, 2.60GHz)
- 15.6" Full HD IPS Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080)
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 GPU with 6GB GDDR5 Video Memory
- Stock Standard Thermal Compound
- Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled
- 24GB DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 3 X 8GB
- 1TB SanDisk X400 M.2 SSD - as an OS Drive (Primary Drive C)
- Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module


#8

Dave

Dave

I just got me a new laptop as well.

Amazon product

ASUS ROG GL502VS-DB71 15.6" FullHD Gaming Laptop,
It was $1600 and I got it so that my Vive is portable. It's completely VR ready and now I can take it where ever I want. And it's tax deductible as a business expense. :)[DOUBLEPOST=1480394258,1480394235][/DOUBLEPOST]Fucking Amazon links.


#9

GasBandit

GasBandit

Those notebooks are both beasts.


#10

Bubble181

Bubble181

Those notebooks are both beasts.
They both obliterate my desktop pc.


#11

Dave

Dave

Well, mine is hopefully going to make me money. But yeah, they are both pretty strong gaming machines.


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