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Not that that's hard.

We have a thread for talking about HotS (not Heart of the Swarm) and now we have a thread for playing it. Here I will keep updated with everyone who is in the beta and what their battletags are, so that we can organize games and not have to play with weirdos who do nothing but go way too deep as kerrigan and then complain that their team sucks.

Post your battletag and when you're available to play, and let's get this shit going. I'm already friends with a lot of you, but I won't be posting your battletag until you post that you want it shared.

The team so far:

Ravenpoe#1361 -- @Ravenpoe
AnnaDei#1673 -- @Dei
Telephius#1462 -- @Telephius
Darsiek#1741 -- @Bowielee
Potatofamine#1633 -- @CynicismKills
Rovewin#1716 -- @Rovewin
laughingboy#1117 -- @phil

AnnaDei#1673, almost always available during the evening, unless I magically grow a life once and a while. Actually, every day but Thursday once derby scrimmages start up again.

Ravenpoe said:

Not that that's hard.

We have a thread for talking about HotS (not Heart of the Swarm) and now we have a thread for playing it. Here I will keep updated with everyone who is in the beta and what their battletags are, so that we can organize games and not have to play with weirdos who do nothing but go way too deep as kerrigan and then complain that their team sucks.

Post your battletag and when you're available to play, and let's get this shit going. I'm already friends with a lot of you, but I won't be posting your battletag until you post that you want it shared.

The team so far:

Ravenpoe#1361
AnnaDei#1673

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Telephius#1462 usually in the evenings after 9pm cst

Darsiek#1741

I'm usually available evenings and weekends. Tuesday and Thursday mornings, I have class at 8AM, so I won't be able to stay up very late Mondays and Wednesdays.

I have tonight off, which means it's time for some HEROES OF THE STORM! Anyone up for playing some tonight?

I would, but I have a DATE!

Bowielee said:

I would, but I have a DATE!

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Pfft, who needs a date when you could be playing vidya games with me?

I will, depending on what time you mean, only because dinner and things will require my attention for a bit. (MST and all)

Dei said:

I will, depending on what time you mean, only because dinner and things will require my attention for a bit. (MST and all)

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Any time, I got all night.

Potatofamine#1633

Just started playing last night so I'm still getting used to the game (definitely has some differences from LoL/DotA2), but as of right now I'll be getting used to Muradin, with a side of Shaman.

Not that I would recommend this unless you REAAAAAAALY want to play and haven't gotten into the alpha or beta, but the Founder's Pack is available, so you can basically buy your way into the beta with 3 heroes, 1 alt skin for each, and a cyberwolf mount.

Just came to post about that. You get Diablo, Raynor and Tyrande, plus a skin for each, some gold and if you didn't have it yet, beta access.

Raynor is boring as balls, fyi. Haven't tried Diablo or Tyrande yet.

I like Tyrande, but I tend towards support classes in MOBAs almost by default.

A healer who stuns is an assassin's best friend. Plus, look up insane Tyrande owl skillshots online. some of those are CRAZY.

I've been playing a lot of Muradin still, though there was a pack on sale that gave me some other heroes to try out. I haven't had a lot of time to sit and really dig into leveling, though, so my Muradin's only level 3 (along with my personal level).

Generally if I'm online it's later in the day, anytime after 7-8pm PST until 1-2am PST depending on what I have to do the next day.

My heroes and levels so far. Been trying to get everyone to level 5 for the gold.

spoiled for size

Poe's already outlevelled me.

Bowielee said:

Poe's already outlevelled me.

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I wasn't in the alpha, I gotta make up for lost time!

Ok I am gonna try this a bit more.
Battletag: Rovewin#1716

I don't have a favorite position yet so I'm happy to fill where needed.

@Bowielee and I got to play some tonight. Really good games.

I got heals for days!

We won 3 out of 3!

Lili and Falstad make a pretty good team.

Isn't Falstad dead?


BTW, I love the character interactions at the beginning of a game. The one between Falstad and Thrall is great.

Falstad: And then the guy says "Isn't Falstad dead?"
Thrall: I wish you would stop telling this story.

If Jaina kills an enemy Jaina, she says "The cold never bothered me anyway."

Isn't that what fan fiction is for. hahahahahaha

Also, Arthas skin poke.

"Wait, his battleground has MERCENARIES on it? Excellent! I LOVE mercenaries."

Me and @Rovewin got to play a few games tonight. We started out with a coop game, since he was trying out Arthas for the first time and I was getting some levels on Chen, before going into a real match. We had a little trouble in the midgame, but made a solid comeback and defeated the enemy soundly.

It helps that they had an Abathur*. 4v5 all day long

*This is just a poke at Bowie

laughingboy#1117

also play me in hearthstone!

Got to play some games with @Telephius tonight. Fun times were had by all.

We learned that Murky makes a terrible support.

Where can I find a good general guide for the game? I've never really played a whatever-this-genera-is game and don't know what the main idea behind all the roles are.

phil said:

Where can I find a good general guide for the game? I've never really played a whatever-this-genera-is game and don't know what the main idea behind all the roles are.

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Play the tutorial first, it'll give you a decent grasp of the gameplay/controls and one character's playstyle (Raynor). After that I'd suggest choosing a couple characters you're interested in learning and hitting up YouTube and some AI matches. As for learning specific maps and such I can't say, but everyone else posting has a lot of experience with the game now and might know better.

phil said:

Where can I find a good general guide for the game? I've never really played a whatever-this-genera-is game and don't know what the main idea behind all the roles are.

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Roles in HotS aren't as strict as other mobas, so don't worry too much about it. I'd say just play the game, and if you want, you can watch high end games to see how their players work together. When I started playing LoL, I basically just learned by watching others play, though I think HotS is much more forgiving for new players.

You can also check these general tips: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/guide/how-to-improve-gameplay-in-heroes-175

phil said:

Where can I find a good general guide for the game? I've never really played a whatever-this-genera-is game and don't know what the main idea behind all the roles are.

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https://www.youtube.com/user/MFPallytime

Watch these videos. Pallytime recently did a whole series going over all the characters individually.

So I've been playing and practicing a lot. Finally got my first taste of quick match tonight! It was pretty cool since I partied with someone a knew and a few of his friends. No one got mad even on the one we lost. I've been trying to be communicative and admit my own mistakes quickly and giving shout outs to good plays I see. I don't know if that's helping or if it's just the state of the game now.

It's really different to the way I'd been playing against AI. The last match really highlighted just how important grouping up is. The enemy team was doing a great job of getting together with good positioning, stunning those of us out of place into their ultimates and then rolling the survivors of our team. I also learned the importance of either fully committing to an Illidan fight or avoiding it at all costs. Any in between is death with that guy.

BTW Im Terrik#1614

Never posted that here.

I haven't been able to play in a couple months because I've been so busy at work, but hoping to get some more matches in soon!

notmaker#1301

Looks like the official release date is June 2nd.

Weekend is here and it looks like the more toxic crowd is coming in to play. People seem to give up just so easily! We played on Blackheart's Bay tonight and our Brightwing threatened to go AFK the moment we lost our lead. I feel like this is a pretty easy map to come back on though, you know? How can s/he be calling it in at level 9 or so just because they got their ultimates first? We ended up winning anyway since we were just able to get turn in after turn in.

And another game came around and honestly it would have been a miracle for us to win just based on team comp. No team had support, but they had two tanks vs us with all assassins, plus Tyrael. In a PUG where we won't be coordinating our focus fire it's unlikely we'd be winning a lot of team fights. Still though, why not just sit back and enjoy it? Play with a weird build to test it out for all I care! Just have some fun, yo!

Anyway, I guess that's my rant. I think I need to start using the mute button a bit more still lots of fun!

I've blocked soooooo many people lately. I'm thinking about sticking to hero league for matches for at least a while. The MMR matching on the game is so screwed up for the solo queue. I'm level 40 with a 70-80% win rate except on the newer maps, simply because I haven't played too many matches on those maps, and for some reason Blackheart's Bay is hovering around 60%. I'm constantly being paired with level 1-12 people with 50% or lower win rates. I'm not trying to be elitist or anything, but if you try to help the team out by going over objectives, people get all pissy. I got a garden terror and they still had one of the seed golems up, so I took it to the fight to deny seeds for the other team and one of the players jumped all down my throat that pushing is more important than objectives. If they would have taken the golem with me we would have had plenty of time to get down a fort with the remaining time, but the team was so disorganized, they were just running around like a chicken with heads cut off. We also would have gotten 2 terrors for the other team's zero terrors.

Also, god damn it people, make sure we're getting lane experience instead of chasing unimportant kills. It's like people refuse to believe that lane exp is greater than hero exp early in the game.

On the plus side, in the next patch, they're going to fix Anub'Arak's beetles so they attack your target instead of meandering wherever they feel like. I love that hero, but his trait is straight up broken.

also:
https://youtu.be/kj-M1Pmbk6A

and

The arcane tornado thing doesn't seem to fit Kael'thas at all and the Crusader looks crazy damage spongy.

Hey guys, my son started playing Heroes of the Storm, and I am looking for someone to pass Chogall to me, assuming that's still a thing. Anyone help me out? @Ravenpoe ?

Dei said:

Hey guys, my son started playing Heroes of the Storm, and I am looking for someone to pass Chogall to me, assuming that's still a thing. Anyone help me out? @Ravenpoe ?

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I don't think you can get him just by playing him anymore, you have to buy him. BUT I think only one of you needs to. So if you have him on your account your son can still play the other half if y'all are teamed up.

So Hero Brawl came out today, which if you've played Hearthsone is a similar idea. It's a new game mode where the normal rules don't apply. This week's brawl is "Punisher Arena" where two teams try to get 100 points in a small arena map. No minions, no lanes, one health fountain per side with buffed up health and shields and no way to directly do core damage. Each hero kill is worth 4 points, and each Punisher kill is worth 10.

When you start the match each member of your team is given a choice between 3 heroes. It can be any hero in the game except like Abathur and Cho'gall I think. You also have a chance to roll a 5v5 all the same character match. I've had 5v5 Jaina and Li-ming so far. I've seen 5v5 Samuro the Blademaster and heard of a 5v5 Gazlowe game.

playing 3 games nets you 1,000 gold and a portrait. You don't even have to win. If you've been away for a bit you might want to stop back in and check out the fun.



also, not to brag, but I'm 5/10 placement matches for Team League and even though we've gotten stomped each time it's been a real blast.

BY FIRE BE PURGED


Also some guy who I guess was the king of dudes or something.

Ok, so Heroes released "Heroes 2.0" today

Basically:
1) Everything is free..kinda. You get Loot crates like in Overwatch, which give you 4 free things. Skins, heroes, emotes, voice lines announcer packs and so forth. Duplicate items give you Shards which work like Dust in Hearthstone. You can then craft any cosmetic item you want. You can get the crates with money or by player progression.
2) A lot of new content from cosmetics, new her Genji, new map Hanamura and lots more.
3) A lot of free shit. If you log on right now you'll get a 20 hero mega pack for free. A lot of the heroes offered are pretty new, as well.
4) A new nexus challenge with rewards in both Hots and Overwatch.


If you haven't played in a while, you should give it a look out at least for the mega bundle. If you haven't played before if you use myrefer a friend link you'll get everything and a little bit more!

I plan to at least take advantage of the mega bundle.
Now to figure out which one contains the most characters I don't already have...

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

I plan to at least take advantage of the mega bundle.
Now to figure out which one contains the most characters I don't already have...

--Patrick

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When you view the bundle in the shop there will be a check mark next to ones you own. I got the assassin one since it had 8 that I didn't already have. The rest only had 4 or so.

So I take it this is week one of the Nexus challenge?

I need that friggin D.Va skin for week two.

Zero Esc said:

So I take it this is week one of the Nexus challenge?

I need that friggin D.Va skin for week two.

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Correct. But you must complete week one's quest to unlock week 2. All 4 quests will be available until May 22nd I believe.

Really hoping I can connect my account from the console just by owning Overwatch without needing a key from it or something.

One thing I forgot to mention about the loot chests is that you can spend gold to re-roll them. You get 3 re-rolls, the price of which goes up every time and the rarity of the items isn't guaranteed. So if you have an epic loot chests, which guarantees an epic item and you re-rol it you might get all commons. But of course if you get all commons you might get some epics or legendary items next roll.

Best re-roll so far!

Gaah I need to get those quests in sheesh why do all the Blizzard games have to compete for my attention?

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

Gaah I need to get those quests in sheesh why do all the Blizzard games have to compete for my attention?

--Patrick

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To make matters worse, Blizzard sent me an invite to the necromancer diablo 3 beta.

I went back to play this for the skins but I'm actually enjoying it. Granted my game of choice is still league because I hate myself apparently and this is enough like that that I don't feel too lost but it is decent. The revolving maps are a welcome change.

Ravenpoe said:

To make matters worse, Blizzard sent me an invite to the necromancer diablo 3 beta.

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I already decided that if I make the beta I'm not going to take advantage of it.
I don't have the time to divide between both real and fake Diablo. Plus of course I'm going to get it when it comes out, so I'll deal with it then.

--Patrick

Week one done. One more to go.

Zero Esc said:

Week one done. Three more to go.

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FTFY

...I mean, I can see how you might not be excited for week 3's rewards:


But I expected you'd be quite interested in the week 4 reward:


--Patrick

PatrThom said:

FTFY

...I mean, I can see how you might not be excited for week 3's rewards:
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But I expected you'd be quite interested in the week 4 reward:
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--Patrick

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Time playing ten Heroes of the Storm matches vs cost of just buying ten loot boxes divided by how much I make in an hour at work? Not worth it. D.Va skin and I'm out ... until the next exclusive reward Blizzard gives out for sacrificing a part of your life to this.

Zero Esc said:

Time playing ten Heroes of the Storm matches vs cost of just buying ten loot boxes divided by how much I make in an hour at work? Not worth it.

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Sooo...about 3-1/2 hrs playtime, $10 for 10(11) loot boxes in Overwatch + $10 for 10(12) chests in HotS = approx $10/hr as a wage (after accounting for taxes and such). So using the Bill Gates model, completing the quests is not worth it if your wage is > $10/hr, since it would be more economical of your time to simply purchase that many loot boxes ... but that assumes you never play HotS again. If you do play the game again, then the equivalent RL wage will go up, since the more hours you log (or "volunteer") in HotS, the greater the discount you are applying to your time.

...no, I'm not encouraging you to play, I just found the exercise amusing.

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

Sooo...about 3-1/2 hrs playtime, $10 for 10(11) loot boxes in Overwatch + $10 for 10(12) chests in HotS = approx $10/hr as a wage (after accounting for taxes and such). So using the Bill Gates model, completing the quests is not worth it if your wage is > $10/hr, since it would be more economical of your time to simply purchase that many loot boxes ... but that assumes you never play HotS again. If you do play the game again, then the equivalent RL wage will go up, since the more hours you log (or "volunteer") in HotS, the greater the discount you are applying to your time.

...no, I'm not encouraging you to play, I just found the exercise amusing.

--Patrick

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I actually thought you might .

Life is too short for me to play more Heroes of the Storm than necessary. If I liked the game, then it'd be different.

I wish Blizz would give cool Overwatch stuff for playing Hearthstone.

Zero Esc said:

I actually thought you might .

Life is too short for me to play more Heroes of the Storm than necessary. If I liked the game, then it'd be different.

I wish Blizz would give cool Overwatch stuff for playing Hearthstone.

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We already have card backs for all of the games! Can you imagine what a Hearthstone inspired OW skin would look like? lol

But I agree.

Zero Esc said:

Life is too short for me to play more Heroes of the Storm than necessary. If I liked the game, then it'd be different.

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I do like the game, my biggest problem is that unlike Diablo, Hearthstone, or Overwatch, the matches tend to be > 15min on average, and I can't sign up for having to play > 1hr worth of quests every day.

Zero Esc said:

I wish Blizz would give cool Overwatch stuff for playing Hearthstone.

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Amen to that.

Also I realized that my breakdown only actually applies if you play HotS during work hours.
If we're talking about your leisure time, then it's a guaranteed added value to that time unless you a) get paid during your leisure time or b) don't enjoy playing.

--Patrick

AAAAAHHHHH

this match has gone on for 25 fucking minutes! I hate this fucking game!

I just want to lose and move on with my life ... but even after this I'll have two more matches to do.

Zero Esc said:

AAAAAHHHHH
this match has gone on for 25 fucking minutes! I hate this fucking game!
I just want to lose and move on with my life ... but even after this I'll have two more matches to do.

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You've summed up why I don't play it that often.
I'll look for ya if I'm online, I have company over right now or I'd play BUT right now I have to fix all their phones and computers...

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

You've summed up why I don't play it that often.
I'll look for ya if I'm online, I have company over right now or I'd play BUT right now I have to fix all their phones and computers...

--Patrick

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Thanks; I'd had enough for the night though. I thought these matches didn't go longer than 15, but this ended at 32.

Just two to go; hopefully not dragging endlessly.

PatrThom said:

I do like the game, my biggest problem is that unlike Diablo, Hearthstone, or Overwatch, the matches tend to be > 15min on average, and I can't sign up for having to play > 1hr worth of quests every day.

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Well, if you just want to do the daily quests, they work on Vs. AI, and you can beat Begginer in 3-5 min (depending on the map) if you know what you're doing (i did it under 3 yesterday - Hammer and Sylv are op even after the nerf to Black Arrow).

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Well, if you just want to do the daily quests, they work on Vs. AI, and you can beat Begginer in 3-5 min (depending on the map) if you know what you're doing (i did it under 3 yesterday - Hammer and Sylv are op even after the nerf to Black Arrow).

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I can usually do AI matches in not much time (I love playing Assassin characters and training them to max gankness), but the quests that require grouping with friends or which require quick play/competitive always take sooooooo looooooong.

--Patrick

Pfft, you guys have never experienced two hour long DOTA matches where you're losing the entire time

Ravenpoe said:

Pfft, you guys have never experienced two hour long DOTA matches where you're losing the entire time

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I would've left before that point. It's called self-care.

Zero Esc said:

I would've left before that point. It's called self-care.

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Sure, but people who do that are assholes who should have just not played in the first place.

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Sure, but people who do that are assholes who should have just not played in the first place.

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At my skill level, my presence is a very small influence on the course of the game.

I'll play a bit later today! Maybe we can get a 5 stack going and that way it'll be more fun!

For the after party, Phil will turn fish into wine.

IT'S OVER! It's finally over ...

I've been on computer duty for almost 3 days. I might get to play next week.
In other news, they forced me to watch a movie I hadn't seen yet.

--Patrick

@PatrThom When you play that card, it says "It only cost my soul!"

Snuffles helped me with the last 2 matches I'd been grinding out, after some shitty PUBs.... only for me to find that the first 5 matches only got me the Genji lewt.

I'm gonna try and grind out 5 more tonight. I NEED that DVa skin.

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@PatrThom When you play that card, it says "It only cost my soul!"

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I knew that, I just didn't get why it would be relevant.
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Officer_Charon said:

Snuffles helped me with the last 2 matches I'd been grinding out, after some shitty PUBs.... only for me to find that the first 5 matches only got me the Genji lewt.

I'm gonna try and grind out 5 more tonight. I NEED that DVa skin.

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I'll look for ya. I still need my 5, and I don't know if Cranky can hack it in QP.

--Patrick

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I knew that, I just didn't get why it would be relevant.

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Adjoin to my post, as in "I got the D.Va skin and it only cost my soul."

Because I really hate this game, but I can't uninstall it and never play again because Blizzard likes offering shit for their other games.

Addendum to my previous statement - working off-duty seemed like a better option, because I'm an overtime whore. Catch you all next time.

PatrThom said:

I can usually do AI matches in not much time (I love playing Assassin characters and training them to max gankness), but the quests that require grouping with friends or which require quick play/competitive always take sooooooo looooooong.

--Patrick

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But those usually last a few weeks...

Finally got the DVa skin through a series of decent PUGs. Debating whether or not to keep playing, as it is occasional cancer... but dem loot boxes....

Finally opened up hots 2.0 to open all my free lot boxes. Every legendary opened was a dupe. This is the pain of the 1%

Ravenpoe said:

Finally opened up hots 2.0 to open all my free lot boxes. Every legendary opened was a dupe. This is the pain of the 1%

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Why not just re-roll? I actually got 2 legendaries instead of a dupe once by doing it...

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Why not just re-roll? I actually got 2 legendaries instead of a dupe once by doing it...

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I rerolled all of them, still dupes. After two rerolls I didn't think the increased gold cost was worth it for the third on each

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Finally got the DVa skin through a series of decent PUGs. Debating whether or not to keep playing, as it is occasional cancer... but dem loot boxes....

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I'll keep looking for you. I want 'em too, y'know.

--Patrick

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I'll keep looking for you. I want 'em too, y'know.

--Patrick

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Fair enough... it'd be a novel concept not to have to join a new game and friend a whole bunch of randos, every time...

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I rerolled all of them, still dupes. After two rerolls I didn't think the increased gold cost was worth it for the third on each

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Clearly you need to repent before RNGesus...

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Clearly you need to repent before RNGesus...

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It's also I just already own all of the skins that are now considered legendary, except for a few of the new color variations that were added with 2.0 (and I still don't have she-ablo)

Go nuts.
EDIT: Yeesh, it actually embedded rather than staying a link? When did google sheets become a plug-in? Well, here's a link in case the plug-in breaks.

--Patrick

Sooo...I guess we're getting Malthael as a new (anti)hero?

Also, made this discovery while playing with a coworker during the recent "get all the Overwatch lootz" run.
-Play as Valla.
-Friend plays as Lt. Morales.
-Valla picks Hot Pursuit (2x Hatred movement speed bonus)
-Valla picks Creed of the Hunter (+10% atk speed, +20% atk dmg)
-Valla picks Tempered by Discipline (heal for 25% of dmg dealt)
-Valla picks Seething Hatred (Hatred stacks 2x faster, lasts 2sec longer)
-Valla picks Rancor (+50% atk speed)
-Get Valla to 10 stacks of Hatred (cumulative effect is +100% atk dmg, +60% atk spd, +20% move spd, heal for 25% dmg dealt)
-...then have Morales hit Valla with Stim Drone (+75% atk spd, +25% move speed) and point healing beam at Valla.

...I tell you, it is AMAZING how much damage Valla can do when hopped up on stims and hatred like that. I healed faster than 3 heroes simultaneously could damage me and killed all three from full health, and almost killed a 4th as well (who stealthed away) in the 5 seconds the stim gives you. Two of the heroes on my team were deliberately trying to throw the match (and complaining "Let them win! Why are you trying?" the whole time), and we still almost won.

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

Sooo...I guess we're getting Malthael as a new (anti)hero?

Also, made this discovery while playing with a coworker during the recent "get all the Overwatch lootz" run.
-Play as Valla.
-Friend plays as Lt. Morales.
-Valla picks Hot Pursuit (2x Hatred movement speed bonus)
-Valla picks Creed of the Hunter (+10% atk speed, +20% atk dmg)
-Valla picks Tempered by Discipline (heal for 25% of dmg dealt)
-Valla picks Seething Hatred (Hatred stacks 2x faster, lasts 2sec longer)
-Valla picks Rancor (+50% atk speed)
-Get Valla to 10 stacks of Hatred (cumulative effect is +100% atk dmg, +60% atk spd, +20% move spd, heal for 25% dmg dealt)
-...then have Morales hit Valla with Stim Drone (+75% atk spd, +25% move speed) and point healing beam at Valla.

...I tell you, it is AMAZING how much damage Valla can do when hopped up on stims and hatred like that. I healed faster than 3 heroes simultaneously could damage me and killed all three from full health, and almost killed a 4th as well (who stealthed away) in the 5 seconds the stim gives you. Two of the heroes on my team were deliberately trying to throw the match (and complaining "Let them win! Why are you trying?" the whole time), and we still almost won.

--Patrick

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You've discovered the Doctor-Heavy strategy, which works really well against unorganized teams that don't know the 1 vital rule.

Ravenpoe said:

You've discovered the Doctor-Heavy strategy, which works really well against unorganized teams that don't know the 1 vital rule.

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Honestly, with almost 2x atk speed and 2x damage and my life-on-hit, I probably would've slaughtered them all anyway. The biggest trick was to get the enemy team all bunched up where I could shoot them all.

--Patrick