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I want incandescent bulbs in my apartment. I have LEDs. The sockets say things like "Use 120V 60Hz MAX 7W Type self-ballasted CFL lamps" and "use E17 MAX 40W Type R Lamp" and I basically have no idea what that means for incandescent equivalent, or if incandescent bulbs are going to be a problem.

Help me! Tell me things about things! I have included pictures of the lamp stickers in case my typing is useless.

You are only 28?

/useless

MindDetective said:

You are only 28?

/useless

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Until next month. Then I'll be 29. Counting is something I have managed to figure out in 28 years. Light bulbs and sewing buttons back onto things, not so much.

What does the socket look like without the current bulb in there?

"Use 120V 60Hz MAX 7W Type self-ballasted CFL lamps" Compact Florescent Light(lamp) that has the ballast in the base of the bulb. Max 7 Watts.

E17 MAX 40W Type R Lamp - Incandescent Lamp that has the bugle shape max wattage 40 Watts.
X[DOUBLEPOST=1494614899,1494614796][/DOUBLEPOST]don't go incandescent, they get too hot and use too much energy.

write down those quotes to help you choose a bulb.

Just shove light bulbs in it and if it doesn't start a fire you're fine. That's what I do. I'm 35 btw

BErt said:

Just shove light bulbs in it and if it doesn't start a fire you're fine. That's what I do. I'm 35 btw

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Don't put a lightbulb in your mouth. It'll go in, but it won't come out.

Other orifices are also at your own risk.

Celt Z said:

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...I was told that was doctor/patient privacy

sixpackshaker said:

"Use 120V 60Hz MAX 7W Type self-ballasted CFL lamps" Compact Florescent Light(lamp) that has the ballast in the base of the bulb. Max 7 Watts.

E17 MAX 40W Type R Lamp - Incandescent Lamp that has the bugle shape max wattage 40 Watts.
X[DOUBLEPOST=1494614899,1494614796][/DOUBLEPOST]don't go incandescent, they get too hot and use too much energy.

write down those quotes to help you choose a bulb.

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But the light is so much nicer! I may have to replace the one that can't do the incandescent at all, then.[DOUBLEPOST=1494618846][/DOUBLEPOST]

MindDetective said:

What does the socket look like without the current bulb in there?

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Like... normal? Like every socket I've ever seen.

Chad Sexington said:

But the light is so much nicer! I may have to replace the one that can't do the incandescent at all, then.

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It isn't 'can't' it is not the better idea.

here is an example, don't get this one it costs 10x too much.

Amazon product[DOUBLEPOST=1494619363,1494619311][/DOUBLEPOST]better.

Amazon product

Chad Sexington said:

But the light is so much nicer! I may have to replace the one that can't do the incandescent at all, then.

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Is it the color temperature you're talking about? They make warm LEDs nowadays.

I, too, prefer the light of incandescent bulbs to CFL/LED bulbs, but I see them slowly getting phased out on store shelves.

Chad Sexington said:

I want incandescent bulbs in my apartment. I have LEDs. The sockets say things like "Use 120V 60Hz MAX 7W Type self-ballasted CFL lamps" and "use E17 MAX 40W Type R Lamp" and I basically have no idea what that means for incandescent equivalent, or if incandescent bulbs are going to be a problem.

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120V 60Hz - The light bulb needs to use standard AC voltage and frequency. You can get 12V bulbs that fit that type of socket, but they are rare and hard to find, so you can safely ignore this, any bulb you get that physically fits will meet this requirement.

MAX 7W Type self ballasted CFL lamp - the lamp fixture isn't capable of handling a high power compact fluorescent lamp, it can't dissipate the heat fast enough and the lamp will have a short lifetime. So the maximum CFL lamp it can handle is 7W. When you shop for a CFL bulb (the spiral ones) you'll see two W ratings - one is the incandescent equivalent. In this case you'd most likely find a "60W equivilant" CFL light bulb that actually uses "7W". Self ballasted means that it contains its own high voltage circuitry. Again, if you find a bulb that physically fits the socket, then it'll be self ballasted. You can safely ignore this.

That's bulb option number one - a standard CFL bulb of no more than 7 actual watts. However you have another choice:

E17 max 40W Type R Lamp - E17 is a socket shape, and is smaller than most household light fixtures. Type R is a reflector bulb, where the light and heat are reflected into a spotlight, so you could use an incandescent bulb, but here it says it can only go up to 40W. The type R bulb has a diffuser on the front so rather than a sharp spotlight there's a very soft edge. I don't know why the fixture specifies this, you could use a BR reflector bulb if you wanted.

So the upshot is that if you want to use an incandescent bulb, use an E17 40W reflector incandescent:

Amazon product

Buy the ten pack because eventually you'll not be able to get incandescent bulbs.

If you have to go LED or CFL, get a "warm" color temperature, around 3500 kelvin. This will be a soft, yellow-ish light, similar to incandescent.

Also, if you the store you're buying from has display models available, definitely check them out. I've seen really nice warm LEDs and really gross warm LEDs with the same advertised color temperature.

stienman said:

If you have to go LED or CFL, get a "warm" color temperature, around 3500 kelvin. This will be a soft, yellow-ish light, similar to incandescent.

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Actually, "warm" color temperatures that are close to the incandescent range are 2500k-2700k. Bulbs that are 3500k are noticeably bluer, though not as blue as the "daylight"-labeled bulbs that are in the 5000's.

--Patrick

Yeah, 3500 isalready pretty cold.
Also, wow, incandescent, they've been illegal here for years

Bubble181 said:

Yeah, 3500 isalready pretty cold.
Also, wow, incandescent, they've been illegal here for years

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Well, we banned their manufacture, not their sale. So the stores have been working through their stockpiles. Also, it went in waves. First they stopped the manufacture of 100 watt in 2012, then in 2014 they stopped 40 and 60 watt. You can still find em if you look really hard, but won't be much longer before that's no longer true.

Is it just me or is @stienman the best/most thorough poster on any subject ever?

Dave said:

Is it just me or is @stienman the best/most thorough poster on any subject ever?

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Dude knows a lot of stuff.

And he has his own research staff.

Dave said:

Is it just me or is @stienman the best/most thorough poster on any subject ever?

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Depends on the subject.
I just assume the lengthier posts means he has some unexpected free time compared to his usual busy schedule, which I hope he is enjoying.

--Patrick

Dave said:

Is it just me or is @stienman the best/most thorough poster on any subject ever?

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Only because no one here like to talk about warhammer inspired sports games

Ravenpoe said:

Only because no one here like to talk about warhammer inspired sports games

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We all have our areas of expertise.

Mine just requires opting in to the NSFW areas.

Dave said:

Is it just me or is @stienman the best/most thorough poster on any subject ever?

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He knows jack about the most important subject.

. . .

Me!

GasBandit said:

Well, we banned their manufacture, not their sale. So the stores have been working through their stockpiles. Also, it went in waves. First they stopped the manufacture of 100 watt in 2012, then in 2014 they stopped 40 and 60 watt. You can still find em if you look really hard, but won't be much longer before that's no longer true.

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Not really true, the high energy incandescent bulbs are gone, but lower energy usage, but still incandescent, bulbs are still being made and sold.

Sparhawk said:

Not really true, the high energy incandescent bulbs are gone, but lower energy usage, but still incandescent, bulbs are still being made and sold.

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They cost a lot more, though, which is kinda like a "soft" ban as part of the reason a lot of people preferred incandescent bulbs is how much cheaper they were.

GasBandit said:

They cost a lot more, though, which is kinda like a "soft" ban as part of the reason a lot of people preferred incandescent bulbs is how much cheaper they were.

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My Dad is hording several dozen incandescent bulbs.

But I can't convince him that incandescent bulbs cost more through electricity costs.

sixpackshaker said:

My Dad is hording several dozen incandescent bulbs.

But I can't convince him that incandescent bulbs cost more through electricity costs.

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Does he have an EZ-Bake Oven he's planning on handing down?

--Patrick