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I'm salivating.... but I need your help.

Sep 28, 2009#1

Shegokigo

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75736

Is going to be released soon, and as I draw closer and closer to buying my Xbox360, finally getting myself back into the fighting games kick, I begin to think about what arcade cabinet style stick would be best?

Now previously I was debating between:

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Stre..._2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1254146724&sr=8-2

or

http://www.amazon.com/Street-Fighte..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1254146724&sr=8-1

but my biggest problem in deciding was that I couldn't seem to find a VERY specific set of stats for the sticks, such as "weight" and "material of components" which is the deal breaker when buying a stick for the next few years.

Now I know I could just modify my:
http://www.amazon.com/Street-Fighte..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1254148019&sr=8-1

to play on Xbox360, but I'll be honest, I'm great at repairing arcade sticks, but I've never modified one, so I'd probably be more inclined to sell mine for $50 and put that towards the new stick.

Opinions? Comments? Anyone able to get a definitive stat sheet on the 3 I'm debating between?

Sep 28, 2009#2

Allen, who is Quiet

weight of standard fightstick (according to the Amazon page): 5.4 pounds
weight of tournament fightstick (also according to the Amazon page): 9.8 pounds

type of parts used for standard (according to the Amazon page): ?
type of parts used for tournament (also according to the Amazon page): Sanwa Denshi joystick & buttons

Sep 28, 2009#3

Shannow

Gaming forum.

Sep 28, 2009#4

Covar

are there any actual advantages between a $160 stick and a $60 stick? I've considered getting something for my 360, so at least when I suck at SC4 its not entirely because of the xbox controller.

Sep 28, 2009#5

Drachenherz

If you want to get a very very good stick "out of the box", go for the MadCatz TE stick. It is manufactured with complete arcade parts, i.e. it has a Sanwa JLF Stick and sanwa obsn buttons. The same stuff you find in the SF IV arcade cab.

If you root for the standard Mad Catz arcade stick, it is very easy to swap the mediocre mad-catz stick and buttons for some Sanwa parts, almost "plug and play".

I'd say, go for the MadCatz Marvel TE stick... I take it, you're quite a MvC2 fan?

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Oh, on SRK, there's more than enough information about the madcatz TE and SE joysticks:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162653

Sep 28, 2009#6

Shegokigo

Andi said:
If you want to get a very very good stick \"out of the box\", go for the MadCatz TE stick. It is manufactured with complete arcade parts, i.e. it has a Sanwa JLF Stick and sanwa obsn buttons. The same stuff you find in the SF IV arcade cab.

If you root for the standard Mad Catz arcade stick, it is very easy to swap the mediocre mad-catz stick and buttons for some Sanwa parts, almost \"plug and play\".

I'd say, go for the MadCatz Marvel TE stick... I take it, you're quite a MvC2 fan?

Oh, on SRK, there's more than enough information about the madcatz TE and SE joysticks:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162653

Thanks Andi, were you the one who built his own arcade stick a while back? I'm trying to remember who that was. As far as fan, yeah I love MvC2 but am more a fighting game fan in general. Looking forward to SF4 and Blazblu.

Shannow said:
Gaming forum.

Agreed, I should have thought that through.

Sep 28, 2009#7

Drachenherz

Covar said:
are there any actual advantages between a $160 stick and a $60 stick? I've considered getting something for my 360, so at least when I suck at SC4 its not entirely because of the xbox controller.

There are indeed great differences. I couldn't believe it myself in the beginning, but...

Let me explain:

I started with the "Hori EX 2 Fighting Stick" for the Xbox, which has all Hori-Parts build into it.

I then constructed and build my own Joystick with all Sanwa original Arcadeparts, and the difference... it really showed... Comparing the two sticks, I noticed the following:

The joystick itself is much more precise, it has a "stronger" feel to it and the movements are much smoother.
The buttons... Sanwa buttons are much better than the stock hori buttons... They are much more sensitive and also... more precise. With the standard hori buttons, after some heavy usage, it happened, that they had some kind of "delay", e.g.: if I was pressing the buttons, sometimes they reacted, sometimes they didn't and sometimes they reacted kinda late... That's why I decided to swap the buttons in my hori stick. It went from this:

To this:

So yes, there is quite a difference between a cheap and a more expensive stick.

Btw, here's a pic from my self-build stick:

It's for xbox 360...

At the moment, I'm at this project for PS3, but haven't wired it yet:

Edit: And yes, I was the guy building those sticks.

Sep 28, 2009#8

Allen, who is Quiet

digging the alita artwork, Andi

yeah, stock hori parts tend to let you down after a bit. They're a good beginner arcade stick for getting used to using them. Then, you graduate up to a stick with better parts.

Sep 28, 2009#9

Covar

good to know. Maybe I should just learn to sodder and make my own stick. Easier to justify the purchase as a DIY learning project, then to pay that much for a stick dedicated to only one game (for now).

My only other arcade experience is wiring up Happ controls for a Jamma harness. Really need to build the enclosure so I can use my neo-geo 4 slot board more.

Sep 28, 2009#10

Shegokigo

Quick question, does the Xbox360 one have a compatability with the PC for play through the SF4 on STEAM?

Sep 28, 2009#11

Drachenherz

Allen said:
digging the alita artwork, Andi

yeah, stock hori parts tend to let you down after a bit. They're a good beginner arcade stick for getting used to using them. Then, you graduate up to a stick with better parts.

This.

And thanks for the compliment. I decided to go a little bit the "artsy" way with this one. I have to admit though, that I didn't build the case myself with this one. It's from www.ecksnine.com . I just fell in love with his cases and just needed to have one.

Ah, and Shego... For choosing you stick, important it is to know where you come from.

This is almost a question of faith (and being used to): Do you prefer American-Style joysticks (like the happ competition) or japanese-style joysticks like sanwa or seimitsu? They feel drastically different, due to their different types of construction.

Looky here:
http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/attributes_brands.html#JOYSTICK_MODELS

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Shegokigo said:
Quick question, does the Xbox360 one have a compatability with the PC for play through the SF4 on STEAM?

Both, PS3 and Xbox 360 sticks have full compability with pc (windows).

But you may have donwload drivers for the 360 version. At least, I had to for the Hori fighting stick.

Sep 28, 2009#12

Shegokigo

Andi said:
Ah, and Shego... For choosing you stick, important it is to know where you come from.

This is almost a question of faith (and being used to): Do you prefer American-Style joysticks (like the happ competition) or japanese-style joysticks like sanwa or seimitsu? They feel drastically different, due to their different types of construction.

For the longest time I was 100% Happ style (American long cover) only. I had alot of trouble with the balljoint Sanwas until I got pretty deep into the Tekken circles. I can play on both styles with high rate of success but when given the option I tend to lean towards Happ.

Sep 28, 2009#13

SeraRelm

Let's go...

Sep 30, 2009#14

figmentPez

I haven't seen Super Street Fighter IV mentioned anywhere else on the forums, so I figured this was a good place to make note of it. From Kotaku:
Super Street Fighter IV Confirmed, Is Standalone Title
8 additional characters are going to be added. So far T. Hawk and Dee Jay are confirmed as returning, and a new character Juri has been announced. "the game 'won't be sold at full price', and that those owning both the original and Super will are in store for an as-yet-unspecified treat."

First Super Street Fighter IV Trailer
No new characters or gameplay in it.

See Super Street Fighter IV In Action

and

Super Street Fighter IV Is NOT Coming To Arcades
Street Fighter IV producer Yoshinori Ono told website GamesReactor, "I'm sorry to disappoint them but this time its going to be Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 only affair." Does that mean no PC version either?

Sep 30, 2009#15

fade

I honestly didn't know people put so much effort and money into a video game.

Oct 3, 2009#16

Shegokigo

fade said:
I honestly didn't know people put so much effort and money into a video game.

Oct 3, 2009#17

Allen, who is Quiet

sweet. now people won't play as T.Hawk IN HD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 3, 2009#18

Shegokigo

Huh?

Oct 3, 2009#19

fade

Shegokigo;268091][quote=fade said:
I honestly didn't know people put so much effort and money into a video game.

[/QUOTE]

*shrug*

I didn't. Honestly.

Oct 3, 2009#20

Allen, who is Quiet

Shegokigo said:
Huh?

T.Hawk is an announced character. I do not play as T.Hawk. I am announcing my excitement about his inclusion and how I will not be playing as him.

Oct 3, 2009#21

Shegokigo

Your excited that a character is being put in that you won't be playing? I see... :crazy:

Oct 3, 2009#22

CynicismKills

fade said:
I honestly didn't know people put so much effort and money into a video game.

My God, it's like it's a hobby or something. :eek:

Oct 3, 2009#23

Bowielee

I think Shego's sarcasm meter is busted.

Oct 4, 2009#24

Shegokigo

Bowielee said:
I think Shego's sarcasm meter is busted.

Among other things. :bush:

Oct 4, 2009#25

fade

CynicismKills;268189][quote=fade said:
I honestly didn't know people put so much effort and money into a video game.

My God, it's like it's a hobby or something. :eek:

[/QUOTE]

Again, I say, "Really?" I've never considered gaming a hobby. A distraction or a fun diversion, but not a hobby. All the corny-ass smileys in the world won't change the fact that my first impression is surprise.

Oct 4, 2009#26

figmentPez

fade said:
Again, I say, \"Really?\" I've never considered gaming a hobby. A distraction or a fun diversion, but not a hobby. All the corny-ass smileys in the world won't change the fact that my first impression is surprise.

Fighting game fans are nothing. It's the Flight Sim fanatics that are nuts.

Oct 4, 2009#27

Shegokigo

figmentPez;268864][quote=fade said:
Again, I say, \"Really?\" I've never considered gaming a hobby. A distraction or a fun diversion, but not a hobby. All the corny-ass smileys in the world won't change the fact that my first impression is surprise.

Fighting game fans are nothing. It's the Flight Sim fanatics that are nuts.[/QUOTE]

AD: And finally, what else do you keep in your spare bedroom?
JD: \"There's no room for anything else—that's why my wife had to go!\"

Oct 5, 2009#28

Shegokigo

Andi, do you think there is any difference at all between the

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75736
and the
http://www.amazon.com/Street-Fighter-FightStick-Tournament-Playstation-3/dp/B001M22WN8/

other than cover art?

Oct 6, 2009#29

Drachenherz

@shego: it looks like those two are the same stick, the tournament edition of the mad catz stick, only differing in the covers. But the marvel vs capcom stick, the gamestop site doesn't explicetely mentions that the parts are sanwa parts, but it says "high quality". to be sure, I'd ask gamestop whether the mvc stick has full sanwa parts (which is likely, as sanwa parts definetely are high quality...).

Oct 6, 2009#30

CynicismKills

figmentPez;268864][quote=fade said:
Again, I say, \"Really?\" I've never considered gaming a hobby. A distraction or a fun diversion, but not a hobby. All the corny-ass smileys in the world won't change the fact that my first impression is surprise.

Fighting game fans are nothing. It's the Flight Sim fanatics that are nuts.[/QUOTE]

I can only imagine what would have happened had these men gotten into Steel Battalion.

Oct 6, 2009#31

Shegokigo

I purchased my Xbox 360 Elite last night and am going to go pick up the Street Fighter IV TE Stick today if I don't hear about any major differences between it and the MvC2 stick other than palettes.

Oct 6, 2009#32

Drachenherz

Go for it shego. And don't forget to add me to your friendslist, Drachenherz I. I'd love to have my virtual ass whooped - when I manage to get online. Although: with forza 3 on the horizon, I guess I'll race more in the next months to come than to play bemus.

Oct 6, 2009#33

Shegokigo

Andi said:
Go for it shego. And don't forget to add me to your friendslist, Drachenherz I. I'd love to have my virtual ass whooped - when I manage to get online. Although: with forza 3 on the horizon, I guess I'll race more in the next months to come than to play bemus.

Right now, my first goal is MvC2

Then I'm debating between SF IV, KoF12 or Blazblue.

Oct 6, 2009#34

Enresshou

Add me too: "IOnceWasLegend". I'm getting back into SFIV in preparation for Super Street Fighter IV, so I'll be getting back into the swing of things

Oct 6, 2009#35

Shegokigo

Omg, the "ball" style stick is SO AWKWARD for me. I'm going to be doing a bit of practice before taking on some challengers, but if someone really tried, I guarantee it'd be easy to find my gametag.

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