Why? It was a catastrophe
[Question] Is perpetual motion, free energy, or zero point energy possible?
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In some very specific circumstances, where measurements routinely need negative powers in the dozens, there are sometimes bits and pieces where it isn't quite perfect. For all human intents and purposes, the laws hold true. Since we can't prove they're absolute fundamental truth, we can't assume it's impossible to come up with some new theory which might allow for some form of escape from the laws of thermodynamics. We don't - and can't - know what it'd look like, but a next Newton or Einstein might find something new and different enough, somehow, possibly.
And as far as I know, 1st-grade PPM were theoretically possibly in a frictionless vacuum. Too bad we don't have any of those, but hey.
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I just want to say "thank you" for using "all intents and purposes" correctly. Oh, and for the layman-friendly explanation of what necronic was trying to tell me. But mostly for not saying "all intensive purposes."
Christ, this a billion times.
This sounds almost like the Physics equivalent of Zeno's paradox, where the math says it can't be done, but experimental evidence quickly refutes that.
Either that, or it's a Shrödinger's Cat situation, where once you get down that infinitessimally small, the rules change because the rules only apply to sufficiently large quantities of stuff.
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Dave
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Interesting theory. I would be surprised, however, if it worked. Further, the experiment they propose wouldn't completely validate the theory, just show that a portion of the theory might be correct, but the perpetual (requiring no outside energy) motion aspect is liable to be false.
Still a very interesting theory, and if even some portions of it prove true, then there will be some interesting applications for it, particularly in quantum computers.
The key point with that one though is that you can't extract energy from that system either. It may go on merrily forever, but we can't get energy from it. It does fit the bill for "perpetual motion" but not for "free energy" or anything like that.
Fascinating nonetheless. I hope they're right and they succeed, since then it pushes the boundaries of science by invalidating well-accepted theories. I still think that whenever a major theory is invalidated, it should be celebrated. It means there's more to learn.
Fascinating nonetheless. I hope they're right and they succeed, since then it pushes the boundaries of science by invalidating well-accepted theories. I still think that whenever a major theory is invalidated, it should be celebrated. It means there's more to learn.
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