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Is the Rep system

#1



Andromache

a bad idea?

people's feelers will get hurt, i think.


#2

Calleja

Calleja

I don't understand the ratings for "rep power" anyway.


#3



Cuyval Dar

It is a good idea. Besides, since when do you of all people care about another's feelings.


#4

Covar

Covar

-1


#5



Cuyval Dar

It is a better indicator of how a person stands within the community than the join date, or post count.
Who knows, it may cause posters to become more helpful, knowing that they can flaunt their karma as a new e-peen.

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Covar said:
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She's just bitching because I gave her negative karma in another thread.


#6

Rob King

Rob King

I like the idea of it, but I don't think I'm popular enough to be rated positively or negatively, and I'm not going to lie: my self-esteem gets affected by shit like that. You have no idea how happy I am when people respond to my posts, or laugh at my jokes. It's almost enough for me to generate some stupid-ass persona like others on the forum have, just for the validation. But I don't want to be a jackass. I just want to be noticed.

Wow, this turned into a manbaww. About the internet, too. Is there any worse? Perhaps it's pathetic, but it's my $.02

Also, I suspect what'll happen anyways is that there will be a lot more negatively rated people than positively. Even putting grudges and shticks aside, people are much less likely to recognize a good post than a bad one.

So while I like the idea, I doubt very much in it's execution.


#7

Covar

Covar

I pretty much agree with Rob King.

Don't see the point either. Reading the forums has always been enough for me to see how people stand in the community.


#8



Cuyval Dar

Rob King said:
I like the idea of it, but I don't think I'm popular enough to be rated positively or negatively, and I'm not going to lie: my self-esteem gets affected by shit like that. You have no idea how happy I am when people respond to my posts, or laugh at my jokes. It's almost enough for me to generate some stupid-ass persona like others on the forum have, just for the validation. But I don't want to be a jackass. I just want to be noticed.

Wow, this turned into a manbaww. About the internet, too. Is there any worse? Perhaps it's pathetic, but it's my $.02

Also, I suspect what'll happen anyways is that there will be a lot more negatively rated people than positively. Even putting grudges and shticks aside, people are much less likely to recognize a good post than a bad one.

So while I like the idea, I doubt very much in it's execution.
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Well, for example, I just agreed with Charlie of all people in a thread.
Then, I gave him good karma. End of story.
Like I said, I think that people will be more friendly/helpful if they know that everyone else is looking at their karma.
Some of these jackasses will tone it down when they notice that they have -9001 karma.


I, for one, will give you karma if laugh at one of your jokes. You have my sword.


#9

Covar

Covar

and my axe.



#10



Andromache

actually, I dont give a fuck if anyone gives me bad rep. God knows I probably earned it. but I just think it's a shitty way to snipe at people. If a dozen fucktards harsh on a newbie who posts for example, it could discourage them, thereby driving membership down.

and the only negative rep Ive given out is to Shego, as a test. I figure she won't hate me for it.


#11

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I swear if I start getting some "positive" rep it's going to be all half-eaten baby pictures and goatsecx from then on out.


#12



Cuyval Dar

I've only given out neg rep to you, 'cause I know you don't care.
So far, I've given pos rep to RK,Ed,Charlie and I think Susan.

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Shegokigo said:
I swear if I start getting some "positive" rep it's going to be all half-eaten baby pictures and goatsecx.
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Shouldn't have said that.


#13



Andromache

I gave positive rep to your mom. all night.


#14



kaykordeath

Can't say I've honestly ever looked at the rep ratings on any board I've ever been a part of....didn't even notice it was active here until seeing this thread....


Take that as a ....I dunno....a big 'ole "I don't give a fuck"?


#15



Cuyval Dar

kaykordeath said:
Can't say I've honestly ever looked at the rep ratings on any board I've ever been a part of....didn't even notice it was active here until seeing this thread....


Take that as a ....I dunno....a big 'ole "I don't give a fuck"?
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Its only been enabled for 10 minutes.


#16

Calleja

Calleja

I still don't understand what the Rep Power @ thingie means :angry:


#17

Covar

Covar

Calleja said:
I still don't understand what the Rep Power @ thingie means :angry:
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see i don't see an :quote: @ :quote: thinging.

Smilies all around :Leyla:


#18

Dave

Dave

Calleja said:
I still don't understand what the Rep Power @ thingie means :angry:
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Me either. :D


#19



Cuyval Dar

Like I said, the CAD forums' karma meter makes way more sense.


#20

Calleja

Calleja

Uh.. I got reputation now but it didn't tell me who gave it or for what.... that sort of defeats the whole point, doesn't it?

Or is there a "karma" section that breaks that info down somewhere I'm not noticing?


#21



Cuyval Dar

Calleja said:
Uh.. I got reputation now but it didn't tell me who gave it or for what.... that sort of defeats the whole point, doesn't it?

Or is there a "karma" section that breaks that info down somewhere I'm not noticing?
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I think that is a good thing, so that you don't get into a karma war with people.

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Maybe set it so that you can see the comments people leave with it,and for what posts, but not their names.


#22

Calleja

Calleja

But then how will you know what you're being rewarded/punished for?

My rep could skyrocket cause of a contribution on a subforum somewhere on the same day I get in a huge flamefest with someone or something, and then I'd be all "..do people really like it that much when I'm flaming?!"

or something


#23



Twitch

I see Calleja as 7 @ 10
I don't understand...


#24

Calleja

Calleja

I have 9 now.

Someone, dunno who, said, and I quote "i DISAPROV" about a post I made on doomdragon's chicken biscuit thread.

I'm torn up about it, as I'm sure you can tell.


#25

Hylian

Hylian

I am not a big fan of the rep. I have seen other boards where people either purposefully tried to get bad rep and some people used the rep to try and force people to not post certain thing or at least use it as leverage.


#26

Calleja

Calleja

Ok.. I have gotten a few more votes on the rep thing and I think I figured something out.

If someone with zero Rep Power reps you, it doesn't count, it's a grey dot in your rep's notification area in the UserCP, but doesn't give you points. It's just when the rep they give you is a golden square that you get the +10 to rep.

Isn't all this explained in the mod page, turbo? I feel like we're playing archaeologists here.


#27

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Calleja said:
Isn't all this explained in the mod page, turbo? I feel like we're playing archaeologists here.
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Yeah there really needs to be an FAQ sticked on just the REP and XP systems.


#28

Calleja

Calleja

He himself doesn't know what the Rep Power: x @ x means, which makes me think... he found no explanation?

My guess is that the number before the @ is how many "reps" you have to give, and the number after is your actual rep points. you get +10 for every "I approve" and -1 for every "I disapprove".

I'm all detective-y.


#29

Zappit

Zappit

My bet is that most people won't notice it or won't want to be bothered with it, at least at first.

Then, it shall become a weapon of fear and intimidation, and Gasbandit will be pleased.


#30



Cuyval Dar

No, it will be used as a tool of the Light Side, not a weapon of hatred.


#31

Seraphyn

Seraphyn

What does it actually do, anyway? Besides giving you grey or green dot under your avatar. Because if that's all it does, it seems a bit useless to me.


#32



Cuyval Dar

Ok, lets say that someone answers a question, helps you with a problem, post something that made you rofl for hours. You give them positive rep.

By the same token, if someone is being a raging jackass, you give them negative rep. Others notice it (Especially newcomers) and think, well, this guy must be an asshole to have -9001 rep, so I'll take what he say with a grain of salt.


#33

Calleja

Calleja

We also call it "e-peen".


#34

Hylian

Hylian

so what side is positive and what side is negative rep?


#35

Calleja

Calleja

Oh, no, we're crossing our wires.

Rep is the little rectangles on the bottom, where it says "rep power" the bars above your avatar are this little "experience" thing Dave is trying out. It gives points for active participation and shit.


#36



Cuyval Dar

Not sure yet.

I still wish we would use the same system as the CAD forums do. It is a lot simpler an more clear.


#37



Cuyval Dar



It's the green bars.


#38

Espy

Espy

Huh. Interesting. I do like the idea of encouraging people to post, etc, but could it turn more people off?


#39



Cuyval Dar

Espy said:
Huh. Interesting. I do like the idea of encouraging people to post, etc, but could it turn more people off?
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Only if the only thing they do is troll/spam/be an asshole.


#40

Calleja

Calleja

Like Cuyval


#41



Cuyval Dar

Calleja said:
Like Cuyval
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I was going to mention You, or Charsinger or Shannow.


#42

Calleja

Calleja

Dammit


#43

Gurpel

Gurpel

i'm going to have fun watching mine plummet. JEWS DID WTC!!!


#44



Cuyval Dar

It's okay, Calleja, you are still my favorite hispanic poster.

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Gurpel said:
i'm going to have fun watching mine plummet. JEWS DID WTC!!!
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Would I go to hell if I gave you pos rep for that post?


#45



Andromache

honestly, I think people can tell what they think of my reputation, if I am on their friends list, or ignore list. everything else just seems like public back patting


#46

GasBandit

GasBandit

Did it get turned off? I don't see these bars people are talking about. Maybe it's just the dnGray skin or something.

Anyway, the thing about these sort of things is they become not an actual quality indicator, but just an indicator of how beloved somebody is by the coffee clatch clique. All the bad things people say about post counts often apply tenfold to reputation voting.


#47

Hylian

Hylian

I think it got turned off cause I don't see them anymore


#48

Dave

Dave

I turned them off. Now if only I could blow away post counts...


#49



Cuyval Dar

I'm having too much fun killing Trolls to care anymore.


#50

Calleja

Calleja

I admit I kinda missed post counts when they were gone


#51

Covar

Covar

Dave said:
I turned them off. Now if only I could blow away post counts...
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You would castrate everyones e-peen like that? :eek:


#52

Hylian

Hylian

I know they can dissuade new posters and they can encourage spammers but I still enjoy post counts


#53

Covar

Covar

never really cared one way or the other about post counts, but actively dislike the idea of a rep system. Encourages to much politics to come to the boards.


#54

Hylian

Hylian

I agree about the rep system I never like how they turnout. I was on another board that used them and I hated it to death.


#55

Gurpel

Gurpel

THE END IS NIGH KILL THE USELESS EATERS

wait, what? they were turned off?

shit.


#56

Baerdog

Baerdog

Dave said:
I turned them off. Now if only I could blow away post counts...
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The GITP forums have a system where post counts are hidden in threads, but still show up in profiles. It has the effect of lessening the perceived importance of post counts, while still having that information available for those who are curious. They use vBulletin as well, so it should be possible for you to do that here too. This could be a good compromise between those who like to keep track of post counts and those who really don't care.


#57

Dave

Dave

Baerdog7 said:
The GITP forums have a system where post counts are hidden in threads, but still show up in profiles. It has the effect of lessening the perceived importance of post counts, while still having that information available for those who are curious. They use vBulletin as well, so it should be possible for you to do that here too. This could be a good compromise between those who like to keep track of post counts and those who really don't care.
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To do that requires us to edit the styles (default, dnGray, etc.). GITP uses only 1 style so it's no issue for them. I could do that too, but I think people like the choice of multiple skins on the boards and changing them all would suck.


#58

ZenMonkey

ZenMonkey

Dave said:
I turned them off. Now if only I could blow away post counts...
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Right on, Dave. This rep system was the one I've discussed before, that I've used on a board with thousands of users. I tend to agree that it's somewhat overkill here.

However, I don't have a problem with post counts. It doesn't have anything to do with quality of posts (obviously, just check out mine), but I find it useful when people outside the Rogue's Gallery post, as a bit of added information about their board use (lurker, first-time poster, etc.).

I think the people to whom it matters will continue to inflate theirs, and the people to whom it doesn't will just ignore the whole thing.


#59

Calleja

Calleja

Zen said it better than I ever could.


#60

Espy

Espy

Calleja said:
Zen said it better than I ever could.
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Yup.


#61

Calleja

Calleja

Are you agreeing with me in Zen's message or insulting me, huh, The Baby!?


#62

Krisken

Krisken

I'm ok with it gone. I'm just not cool enough to see it affect me.


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