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We've got enough useless spam threads appearing in the WHAT'S NEW as it is. We don't need staff to post more of that!

Is there a way to finally get this issue resolved? I know people like to post in those but annoys the HELL out of the other half of the forums. Can't they be moved them in a spam marked folder and no longer appear on the WHAT'S NEW list? Or be able to mark them off an ignorable? Maybe delete them altogether? <---

I logged on after a long day and found half a dozen threads of interest, out of 40+ actively on the list since last night with 30 of them absolutely useless since 2010 with topics like :

"POST AFTER ME!"

DERP DERP



RGLGLGLGLGLGLGLGGHGHHERHWEH!!!!

Seriously.....
Can something be done?
Any changes in the works?
ANYTHING?

PLEAAASE

Am I the only one at a wit's end annoyed by this? Losing interest of checking the site?

I think the haiku thread is a way more intellectually stimulating excercise than other e/n threads, such as "say something about the previous poster" or "one word thread," etc. At least this one requires the generation of actual content.

I'm waiting to see what the XF 1.1 abilities for ignore are. If the ability is not in there I plan on doing a kind of "nuclear option" which would be to create a "Forum Game" sub and then exclude it from the "What's New" button. It'll be excluded for everyone. The problem with that is that they will die as nobody will see them unless they subscribe to the subboard.

What are there four of those? Buy some wood, build a bridge, and get over it.

Hehe I really don't get the hate.

We're a diverse forum. We like different things.

You're not alone Jay, but get this, we're the minority. The majority of the board participates and enjoys the "+1post lol" threads. That's definitely their perogative.

As for Dave's solution, I don't agree with it believe it or not. The only way I could see a resolution come to light is an "Ignore Thread" option, that way we can tag an entire thread to be ignored for the forum's lifetime. Any other solution will upset one party.

makare said:

Hehe I really don't get the hate.

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Yeah, I'd ignore that.

He's a bit brash, but he's right. The reason she doesn't see a problem is because she's part of the group that he's complaining about.

She's acting like she's staring at a brick wall, where half of us don't like the threads and the other half does. It's a chain-link fence, it's easy to see both sides, whichever side you're on.

Maybe that's why we need the ignore function. then we won't have a chain link fence and you can go on your merry way not complaining about something other people like by making pointless threads.

Just sayin.

As you said it isn't half this half that it is the majority of us who enjoy the games. If you don't like them just scroll past them. We shouldn't have to not be able to get to the popular threads just because the people who don't like them.. well don't like them.

LOL

This forum is truly unbelievable on how easily some people can get butt hurt when someone else's opinion different than their own is expressed.

How dare this bastard of a poster boldly state that the spam threads that bring nothing to the table and is a problem for him to enjoy the forums? What is he EVEN talking about, as far as I know, all threads are equally enjoyable! Let me go right ahead and post so that my already inaccurate post number can go up a few numbers with a few crappy posts in the "ONE WORD DERP THREAD" "DERP IN THIS THREAD ABOUT A DERP SITUATION NO ONE CARES ABOUT", "SUPER DERP SAIYAN SOMETHING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS POSTER WITH RANDOM NUMBERS AND TV TECHNOLOGY FEATURING A NOT SO AMUSING EXTRA LONG TITLE THAT GOES ON 2 LINES TO PURPOSELY ANNOY OTHER POSTERS WHO HATE THESE THREADS WITHOUT A CHANCE THAT A MOD WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT".

Basically, this forum has an excellent tool with the "WHAT'S NEW" functionality that is completely useless as it displays a bunch of useless and unblockable shit. That's just my take, just like someone else would feel different as to what they'd find uninteresting in the sports forum or the political forum or even the gaming forum. Everyone is different but I'll be damned if I can't rant without having to use a derp thread.

All I'm advocating is to have a serious look as to the way things are headed. Personally, I think HF can do much better with those type of threads and most of all I don't think staff should add to the problem with posting open derp threads, even though I agree with you GB that is a notch higher IQ wise to what some of our "overthinkers" may think.

I don't think anyone is anything but confused, Jay. Certainly not "butt hurt". Also where is the post tally? I didn't know they were still counting posts.

who is butt hurt? not like i'm writing an essay trying to convince you.

Also the game threads are FUN. It is not about post count or anything it is about having fun. I have made a couple of my best forum friends in the Say Something threads so I deny the don't get anything out of them bit as well.

Krisken said:

Maybe that's why we need the ignore function. then we won't have a chain link fence and you can go on your merry way not complaining about something other people like by making pointless threads.

Just sayin.

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Ignore function wouldn't prevent the problem Jay/I/others are complaining about, the threads would still flood the "New Threads" update button. So no, it's not a solution.

@makare: The problem here is you keep saying you don't see a problem. It is a problem for some. I'm willing to say I understand why it is fun for you, but you're unwilling to see why it's a bother for us. Your response is "Everything's fine, leave it as it is" My response is "there's a problem, it needs to be fixed, but without harming either party".

See the problem?

then dave's ignore threads thing will help ya. either that or just deal with it, cause as you said, you're kinda in the minority here. Jay making a thread complaining about it isn't going to make the games go away.

I know you didn't just say the minorities here don't matter. Cause Charlie's gonna blow this thread up. I don't feel like being White Knighted....

interesting interpretation.

Imagine if Charlie were a lawyer

You know someone had to do it...

I was gonna go to law school for a while, but I balked at it because of the cost.

But yeah, I hate to agree with Jay/Shego, but those threads are dumb.

charlie, you are so true neutral.

edit: changed to reflect actual alignment.

Why? And it can't involve the concept of padding post counts because I doubt anyone gives a shit OR talking about stuff that "no one gives a shit about" because thats always a risk regardless of how or where you post.

And on the law school thing you probably did the right thing. It's a fucking pain in the ass.

I honestly am not gonna raise up arms against the +1 threads, or do anything to stop them. But if I could swipe a button and they disappear and then four more threads I might ever read pop up from page 2? I would do it.

This is what I get for having my power go out for 3 hours. I miss all the good stuff (and my house gets REALLY fucking hot!)

As I stated, when I find a solution I'll most certainly do it. I think the "Nuclear Option" would be the best option if XF 1.1 doesn't do the trick.
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Actually there's another possibility that will depend on 1.1 as well. They are adding prefixes and User Groups. I can create a user group that has the same levels as Registered but exclude them from the "Continuous" thread sub, which would mean that the posts would stay off of their "What's New".

What do you think of them apples?

I'm against the nuclear option strictly on principle. The user group thing sounds like a good compromise.

what is the nuclear option? what would the point of that be? how would that make things better?

The Nuclear Option would be putting the threads like that into a sub and then excluding the entire sub from the What's New button...but it would be that way for everyone. I think the user group or prefix option works much better.

wow, that must be an awful squeaky wheel to consider that.

If he were the only one I wouldn't consider it. But I've had more than a few people mention it.

so the most active part of the forum would be cut off?

We've already said that's not the option we're going with makare, you can can breathe.

ah, more than a few. that clears things up.

Shegokigo said:

We've already said that's not the option we're going with makare, you can can breathe.

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Ok I don't actually give a shit. So you can stop acting like I am here freaking out about it. I have merely been trying to figure out what the big deal is. Still haven't gotten an answer on that one.

as I understand it the 'what's new' thing gets updated a lot. I still don't understand the problem with that.

The big deal is that it eats up 1 full page, sometimes, when we hit "New Posts" pushing threads we'd actually like to read/particpate in, to a second page. It's annoying to have to click "all forums read" just to get rid of them for 1-2 "New Posts" update.

Ok I get that but why are the posts you want to participate in more important than the ones other people want to participate in? I can understand not wanting to deal with the game threads but he included the rant/win threads in there too. If those didn't exist and each person had to make a thread each time something he/she cared about happened would that really make the situation better?

ok, i see this is something that bothers some people but doesn't seem like a big deal to others.

put me down for 'doesn't mind scrolling past threads he doesn't have interest in'.

makare said:

Ok I get that but why are the posts you want to participate in more important than the ones other people want to participate in?

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Don't recall saying that, or anyone, all we're asking for is the option to ignore threads for a lifetime so WE don't have to see it. It doesn't take anything away from you or make anyone else more important.

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You've gone off on a tangent noone even brought up.

I never post in any of the "spam" threads. I do succesfully ignore them. They aren't bad, I just... don't care.

Seems to work so far.

Espy said:

I never post in any of the "spam" threads. I do succesfully ignore them. They aren't bad, I just... don't care.

Seems to work so far.

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Oy! Enough of your even tone. We're all supposed to be butt-hurt!

what tangent? jay said those threads were where people posts things no one else cared about so presumably they should not exist. why? because it clogs up the whats new thing. his assessment that no one cares is inaccurate since they are so often posted in. Therefore, it could reasonably be assumed that people would still post about those things in individual threads thus further clogging up the what's new thing.

it's exactly what we are talking about.

Krisken said:

Oy! Enough of your even tone. We're all supposed to be butt-hurt!

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Er, I mean, I'M ANGRY!

Espy said:

Er, I mean, I'M ANGRY!

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damn right you are! You're mad as hell, and you're not going to take it anymore!

Krisken said:

damn right you are! You're mad as hell, and you're not going to take it anymore!

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You bet your cheese-eating ass I am! I don't even know what the issue is but I'm plenty pissed!

and i just pictured a cheese eating an ass. thanks brain, thanks a lot.

Last page or so.

I think you are reading it backwards Jay.

You think?

you're going to have to work harder to take over Gas' image king status.

Jay, take a deep breath and keep watching the bottom of the screen....

Soon, my pet.

Gas has pic hording disorder hehe.

makare said:

Gas has pic hording disorder hehe.

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So Gas is a little bloated?

Out of curiosity, why not browse using Watched Threads, then hit up What's New afterwards? If shit bothers you that much, it seems like a reasonable method until an Ignore feature gets implemented.

Hey Dave, how about finding a mini-mod that auto-coverts colored text to a standard color for dark themes while you're at it?

Jay is a bit high maintenance.

i'm actually on board for that suggestion.

Hmm his text shows up as black to me.

*thats racist*

Jay said:

LOL

This forum is truly unbelievable on how easily some people can get butt hurt when someone else's opinion different than their own is expressed.

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What.

That is why fade is consistent in his hate.

Sometime Fade is truly on his unbelievable and then butthurt he's doesn't like the thing.

fade said:

What.

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Why.

adv. For what purpose, reason, or cause; with what intention, justification, or motive:

Ex: Why do you have a link to a blog with no updates since the Bush administration?

Espy said:

Sometime Fade is truly on his unbelievable and then butthurt he's doesn't like the thing.

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I heard that made The Thing cry.

makare said:

I heard that made The Thing cry.

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Well yeah, but everything makes The Thing cry.

Espy said:

Sometime Fade is truly on his unbelievable and then butthurt he's doesn't like the thing.

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What.

oddly enough Fade likes to see Things cry.

Now this thread is starting to make sense.

My butt hurts.

fade said:

My butt hurts.

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apparently there is a lot of that going around. even to people who don't know their butt hurts.

Huh. Test.

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That's strange. The posts I made before and after the one that annoyed Jay come out fine in the dark themes, and I made no changes. Also, I noticed Espy's quote of Krisken came out colored, despite the original post having no formatting. Odd.

Yeah I don't understand why I don't see the color.

This has happened to me a few times, where my post unknowingly comes out colored. I assumed I simply changed the color on accident, but I just noticed whenever this happens the font color always comes out as a certain shade of blue. If I was hitting the button accidentally, wouldn't the color be randomized?

I use the social skin. I rarely see colored text at all. But yeah, it's a light skin not dark.

I can sort of fix the text color issue, but it requires another "Nuclear Option" again. That would be making it so that nobody could set their text color. You'd have to use what we set as the default for the theme.

That's an overly-drastic solution for a very minor issue.

I'm starting to think Dave just wants to blow something up.