Michael Jackson's mom being held "against her will"?

Dave · Jul 25, 2012

The fuck?!? CNN is reporting that Tito's son is being given custody (temporary) of Michael's kids because their mom is being held against her will and because she may be "prevented from acting as a guardian because of the acts of third parties."

Let me say again: The fuck?!?[DOUBLEPOST=1343242442][/DOUBLEPOST]http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/showbiz/jackson-family-dispute/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Dave · Jul 25, 2012

That's what I'M saying! WTF, man?

sixpackshaker · Jul 25, 2012

Why not turn the kids over to their birth parents? And screw the rest of the Jacksons they were all pedophile enablers anyway.

ThatNickGuy · Jul 25, 2012

Christ, those kids will never have a chance at a normal or stable life so long as that family is around.

Allen who is Quiet · Jul 25, 2012

ThatNickGuy said:
Christ, those kids will never have a chance at a normal or stable life so long as that family is around.

If they couldn't have one, no one can.

sixpackshaker · Jul 25, 2012

Allen who is Quiet said:
If they couldn't have one, no one can.

Crazy People manipulating you (not in a good way) pretty much nullifies the money. Or worse yet, being raised by these people who then steals all your money.

WasabiPoptart · Jul 25, 2012

I don't get it either. The article says

a Los Angeles County sheriff's investigation concluded she was safe in Arizona.

If the sheriff's investigation concluded she was safe, how can the family say she's being held against her will? If that were the case, wouldn't the sheriffs have noticed anything unusual? As with many things involving the Jackson family, this is weird.

Charlie Don't Surf · Jul 25, 2012

sixpackshaker said:
And screw the rest of the Jacksons they were all pedophile enablers anyway.

alleged

Vrii · Jul 25, 2012

Charlie Don't Surf said:
alleged

The fuck? Is anyone else finding this pretty backwards?

sixpackshaker · Jul 25, 2012

Vrii said:
The fuck? Is anyone else finding this pretty backwards?

That is why I threw it out there. He had no problem wishing death on a man that had less of a connection to protecting a child rapist than the Jacksons.

blotsfan · Jul 25, 2012

In Charlie's defense, Jackson was found not guilty while Sandusky was found guilty. I do think Charlie is trolling though,

Allen who is Quiet · Jul 26, 2012

In a related topic, I really like this cover

SpecialKO · Jul 26, 2012

blotsfan said:
In Charlie's defense, Jackson was found not guilty while Sandusky was found guilty. I do think Charlie is trolling though,

Yeah, I gotta side with CDS on this one, a bit. There's actual evidence of guilt and a conviction on side, and nothing but supposition and a "not guilty" verdict on the other.

And I love Richard Cheese's RATM covers!

sixpackshaker · Jul 26, 2012

blotsfan said:
In Charlie's defense, Jackson was found not guilty while Sandusky was found guilty. I do think Charlie is trolling though,

So it is Sandusky's fault for not having the best lawyers in America.

SpecialKO · Jul 26, 2012

Innocent until proven guilty. And MJ was not proven guilty, like it or not.

sixpackshaker · Jul 26, 2012

SpecialKO said:
Innocent until proven guilty. And MJ was not proven guilty, like it or not.

Start at page one on Joe Pa.

ThatNickGuy · Jul 26, 2012

I've always been of the belief that he was innocent, anyway, and that the first accusation was just the parents coming after him for money (shock of shocks, I know). Unfortunately, innocent or not, that one accusation damned him.

Was he entirely right in the head? No, absolutely not. His abusive father and abusive family pretty much scarred him. He never had a "normal" childhood and was never allowed to be a kid because he was too busy being whored out to make money. Which then explains Neverland and wanting to hang out with kids because he tried to have his childhood in his adult life.

If it was ever discovered somehow that he was, unquestionably, molesting those kids, I wouldn't be too surprised. But I'm still willing to belief he was innocent.

Zappit · Jul 26, 2012

Methinks Katherine's kids are making a play for the estate's money. Hell, one of them said they had a plan in place for years to get Katherine out of that house.

Charlie Don't Surf · Jul 26, 2012

I'm not going to get into the "is he guilty" crap since there's not a really easy way to know. The "court of public opinion" is kind of bullshit.

As for JoePa, many lawyers have said on record that he'd probably go to jail if he were still alive based on the Freeh Report alone, much less any official, now hypothetical, investigation by the actual police

SpecialKO · Jul 26, 2012

sixpackshaker said:
Start at page one on Joe Pa.

Sorry, I try to avoid reading too many Charlie-based rants (and all the counter-rants that come with it) in a single day.

And just because you guys disagree about Joe Pa (or whever that thread ended up) doesn't change the fact that Sandusky was found guilty of an act that the available evidence is suggesting got covered up by people at PSU and that MJ was not.

sixpackshaker · Jul 26, 2012

What does that have to do with wishing Joe Pa dead before the trial started?

And again, it is just Sandusky's fault for not being one of the richest men in America.

SpecialKO · Jul 26, 2012

sixpackshaker said:
What does that have to do with wishing Joe Pa dead before the trial started?

Nothing at all, except possibly pointing out that Charlie is a bit inconsistent (which I doubt we disagree on).

And again, it is just Sandusky's fault for not being one of the richest men in America.

Maybe, maybe not. Unless you were the kid in question in the MJ case, all we know for certain is that MJ was found not guilty and Sandusky was. So Charlie is right when he says "alleged" and it absolutely is a differentiator when comparing the two.

Charlie Don't Surf · Jul 26, 2012

I don't think I wished he was dead. I wish he would have lived to see his legacy come crashing down literally and figuratively. To use a terrible nerd metaphor, he died a hero before he could live long enough to become the villain (in his eyes)

Dave · Jul 26, 2012

Just because you WERE right doesn't mean what you said WAS right.

Ravenpoe · Jul 26, 2012

Can we still call OJ a murderer?

Charlie Don't Surf · Jul 26, 2012

Ravenpoe said:
Can we still call OJ a murderer?

I honestly don't have a firm opinion on that. I was a little young to be able to follow the trial at all or facts or whatever, and I'm leery of the court of public opinion (that's pretty sure he did it)

Dei · Jul 27, 2012

Ravenpoe said:
Can we still call OJ a murderer?

I'm going to go with "Hell, yes" on that one. That was the biggest sham trial ever. =/

Bowielee · Jul 28, 2012

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I honestly don't have a firm opinion on that. I was a little young to be able to follow the trial at all or facts or whatever, and I'm leery of the court of public opinion (that's pretty sure he did it)

The evidence against him was overwhelming. However, because this was just following the Rodney King verdict and the LA riots, people were more affraid of the backlash than dispensing justice.

AshburnerX · Jul 28, 2012

Bowielee said:
The evidence against him was overwhelming. However, because this was just following the Rodney King verdict and the LA riots, people were more affraid of the backlash than dispensing justice.

It didn't help that they guys who did the investigation mishandled the evidence and possibly forged some of it. I'd have acquitted him on those facts alone.

Charlie Don't Surf · Jul 28, 2012

the lesson, as always, "fuck the police"

ThatNickGuy · Jul 28, 2012

Charlie Don't Surf said:
the lesson, as always, "fuck the police"

I like your way of thinking. :unibrow:

*buys some flowers, uses some breath spray, and waits patiently outside the home of @Officer_Charon*

Bumble the Boy Wonder · Jul 28, 2012

AshburnerX said:
It didn't help that they guys who did the investigation mishandled the evidence and possibly forged some of it. I'd have acquitted him on those facts alone.

Jackson also never tried to sell a book called "If I had molested those kids.."