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Someone said something about a book club in some thread and I'll be damned if I'm going to let that slide. Step forward, choose a book, or I'll have to grab one off of the shelf and I doubt you'll like The Agony and The Ecstasy.

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Sherlock Holmes 10% 10% [ 2 ]
Dracula 29% 29% [ 6 ]
Count of Monte Cristo 48% 48% [ 10 ]
Paradise Lost 14% 14% [ 3 ]

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Twitch said:

Someone said something about a book club in some thread and I'll be damned if I'm going to let that slide. Step forward, choose a book, or I'll have to grab one off of the shelf and I doubt you'll like The Agony and The Ecstasy.

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Why don't you have two separate polls? One for genre, then one for a group of books from the winning genre. You might generate the most interest this way.

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Krisken if I went about doing this in an organized fashion things would get done... I'll brb...

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So there's Romances, Mysteries, Science Fiction, Fantasy, Thrillers, Horror, Historical Fiction, Alternate History, what else?

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Lally has been in touch with the mods about getting this going. Perhaps you two could collaborate?

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Lally, that's who it was that in my laziness I couldn't be bothered to search and find the name for. I shall send her a message upon my awakening.

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Stop talking like a weirdo, you weirdo.






I love you.

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I would like to suggest: I hope they serve beer in Hell.

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I'd suggest Don Quixote, if only because I've found out it isn't as widely read as I thought. Or, if people are scared of long, hilarious, books, The Hobbit is accessible enough for a first book and a lot of people have probably read it when they were younger, so bonus nostalgia points.

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I'd be interested in learning more about this topic as things develop and wish to subscribe to the newsletter.

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I don't have time for a book club, is there just a newsletter club?

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I'd be interested in learning more about this topic as things develop and wish to subscribe to the newsletter.

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twitchmoss said:

I'd be interested in learning more about this topic as things develop and wish to subscribe to the newsletter.

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How about this leaflet? Famous Jewish Sports Legends.

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blotsfan said:

How about this leaflet? Famous Jewish Sports Legends.

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Sandy Koufax and the ghost of Hank Greenberg would like a word with you. :slap:

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Daniel Quinn - Ishmael (or My Ishmael for the younger readers)

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Might I suggest From The Earth To The Moon by Jules Verne?

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are we limiting to a single genre? or is it open to all? how often are we meet and talk about it? thread only? or vent? (might as well use Halforum vent server)

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I got really excited about this idea when it was brought up in the other thread.

My thoughts were:

1) At least to start, pick books that are in the public domain. There's a ridiculous amount of classic literature that can be found for free legally online. That way, especially until we really get the ball rolling and see what the interest level and participation level is going to be, no one has to shell out any money to join up (unless they would much rather read a paper version than online). It's also possible I'm one of the few that would be excited to read classic literature, since I was a lit major... but once again, it's free and legal, and both of these things are good for getting the most people possible to participate. Maybe eventually we can work up to cheap e-books or something. I just know that a lot of us are on a budget, so free = awesome.
2) The Gutenburg project is the most obvious public domain collection that comes to mind. There is a site that takes works from the Gutenburg project and breaks them up into short segments and emails them to you every day (dailylit.com). I've used this to read books before and it would be a nice way to set at a recommended pace for finishing... It may require having more than one section sent per day since many of them are well over 100 short segments.
3) Someone suggested utilizing the Vent channel -- definitely a good idea but I would much prefer ALSO doing it in forum style, using the forum primarily, because I think we'll get a lot more participation that way. I know the times I'm available online, there aren't people in the channel and since we're all over the globe and all have different schedules (and microphone capabilities) it would be nice to have text discussion so as to not take a chance on leaving someone out.
4) Since there are so many options for books, maybe we can start by having a poll to decide the genre, and then take suggestions to ultimately be decided by poll? (maybe in that case we can take whatever comes in 2nd or possibly 3rd, if it's close, and use it for the next book)

I've been thinking about this a lot the past couple days. Someone tell me if my ideas are good or if I just sound bossy.

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Sounds like an awesome plan, again count me in.

I mainly use http://www.online-literature.com for reading online free books, they're quite legit and have a very extensive library.

I don't know about the book selection process, but I think that if we have a bearable number of initial members we could just boil it down to a simple poll/debate, instead of a multi-tiered one (that'd take time).

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DarkAudit said:

blotsfan said:

How about this leaflet? Famous Jewish Sports Legends.

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Sandy Koufax and the ghost of Hank Greenberg would like a word with you. :slap:

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Yeah. Thats the leaflet.

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blotsfan said:

DarkAudit said:

blotsfan said:

How about this leaflet? Famous Jewish Sports Legends.

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Sandy Koufax and the ghost of Hank Greenberg would like a word with you. :slap:

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Yeah. Thats the leaflet.

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You could do a chapter on Koufax's left elbow alone.

I might follow along myself depending what book is chosen. I just bought my big fat Child Development textbook today :bush: but one of my summer goals is to better balance my required reading and pleasure reading.

And you don't sound bossy, Lally. It's best when someone takes the reins, and I like your ideas, myself.

Cajungal said:

I might follow along myself depending what book is chosen.

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This.

ditto. I can go either way. Depending on the book, my wife might join in also.

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DarkAudit said:

You could do a chapter on Koufax's left elbow alone.

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Have you ever seen the documentary "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg"? Fantastic. He was a hell of a guy.

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ZenMonkey said:

DarkAudit said:

You could do a chapter on Koufax's left elbow alone.

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Have you ever seen the documentary "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg"? Fantastic. He was a hell of a guy.

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No I haven't, and since he was a Bucco, I am quite remiss in not doing so...

Well you seem to have found the thread without my messaging you so I can continue to slack off. I am all for classic literature, especially since it's pretty much all free.

Twitch said:

Well you seem to have found the thread without my messaging you so I can continue to slack off. I am all for classic literature, especially since it's pretty much all free.

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Not only that, but how hard is it to go to the library? Chances are pretty good classic literature will be there.

Just so we have an idea, when I say classic I mean Catcher in the Rye, Huckleberry Finn, AQotWF, as much as I mean The Prince, and P&P.

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Not only that, but how hard is it to go to the library? Chances are pretty good classic literature will be there.

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Or in my case, mostly ratty paperbacks in Russian.

If it's Gutenberg or something I already own, I'd love to participate. Or if it's a book I've been meaning to get anyway.

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Krisken said:

Not only that, but how hard is it to go to the library? Chances are pretty good classic literature will be there.

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Or in my case, mostly ratty paperbacks in Russian.

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Damn, who funds your library Zen, the Communist party?

The Count of Monte Cristo is a good Gutenberg one.

Linky: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1184

-Adam

summer reading list :

If we want to do fantasy or sci-fi books that everyone can get access to then Baen books has a pretty good free library at:

http://baen.com/library/defaultTitles.htm

A few titles that are simple reads, well not simple but not heavy texts, that I saw on Gutenberg.

Sherlock Holmes
Dracula
Count of Monte Cristo
Huckleberry Finn
Frankenstein
War and Peace (Ok, that one might be considered heavy reading)
Around the World in 80 days
Les Misérables
Paradise Lost
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
A Tale of Two Cities (Some people I know had trouble with this one, so it might not be a good choice)
The War of the Worlds


And those were just from the top 100. I've read all of these so I can say that they're mostly reasonably easy to read for even those who speak english as a second language. I did select fiction but if there was demand for non there are some good ones available. What do you think of these going into a poll?

Gas... Pre-teen lesbianism?

Now with poll of some maybe book choices

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Those are by no mean final of course, I just grabbed some PD ones that might have interest and we can see what people want from there.

Krisken said:

ZenMonkey said:

Krisken said:

Not only that, but how hard is it to go to the library? Chances are pretty good classic literature will be there.

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Or in my case, mostly ratty paperbacks in Russian.

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Damn, who funds your library Zen, the Communist party?

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Very possibly. I live in an area with a lot of Russian Jews and it seems the libraries cater pretty heavily to them. Haven't found a good one near me (and it has to be near me) yet.

I voted for Count of Monte Cristo and Paradise Lost because I've never read either and really should.

Oi, what Sherlock Holmes book? The first one?

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Oi, what Sherlock Holmes book? The first one?

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I think so, seems like a logical starter. I've read them all but it's been awhile.

Yeah, same here. I've chosen two books I haven't read yet (well ok, I did read dracula, but that was something like 10 years ago).

I voted for Miz and Count, two that I haven't read in awhile and I think people would like.

I'm up for it, I'm not real picky as to what I want to read. So I'll go with whatever.

So, Count of Monte Cristo... that's about the guy who invented the sandwich, right?

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So, Count of Monte Cristo... that's about the guy who invented the sandwich, right?

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I love that sandwich.

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Cajungal said:

So, Count of Monte Cristo... that's about the guy who invented the sandwich, right?

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I love that sandwich.

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Me too. Let's read the sandwich book!

I voted for Around the World in 80 days 'cause that's one of the few I haven't read and I've sort of meant to.

Umm... you do realize that Les Mis and War and Peace each clock it at over 1200 pages, right? Unless you want to start this book club in the fall, those are really ambitious choices to have on the list. I'm a really fast reader, and both of these took me several weeks to read--they're not easy texts to get through.

I ran a book club at both my library and my high school, and my .02--for whatever it's worth--is that most of these books will work well on a classroom but aren't going to be ideal for a book club. Honestly, to get a good discussion going, you want something at least semi-controversial--a book with issues that people can take sides on. Otherwise it's going to be "I liked this" "yeah I liked it too" "it was a good book" "mm-hmm." Unless you think we're going to be having uber-intellectual, scholarly arguments over these books, which, granted, we may, we could easily run out of stuff to talk about fast. However, in a setting like this, I just can't imagine that we'd be bringing deconstructionism etc. into the conversation. The best book club discussions I've ever been at were the ones where people disagreed and we spent our time debating instead of just talking about what we liked--even something like The DaVinci Code (not that I'm advocating we read that piece of garbage) would lead to a better conversation than something like Les Miserables.

I don't want to rain on your parade, trust me. I think a HF book club is a great idea, and I'd love to join up with you guys. I just think you're better off looking at banned books lists instead of randomly picking classic books in the public domain.

Let's read The Warriors. I know some lengthy discussions could be had over some of the stuff in there. :shock:

Meh, I've done most of these in a book club. I'm a lightning fast reader so I understand, now that I think about it, the trepidation on Les Mis though it might take me a week at most. As for discussion every book in controversial if not through politics. It's interpretation of characters, what made the book good, worth reading, et cetera that make for good discussion. Not "I think that the Illuminati are going to kill us like the book." "Well, you're a bitch"

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Meh, I've done most of these in a book club. I'm a lightning fast reader so I understand, now that I think about it, the trepidation on Les Mis though it might take me a week at most. As for discussion every book in controversial if not through politics. It's interpretation of characters, what made the book good, worth reading, et cetera that make for good discussion. Not "I think that the Illuminati are going to kill us like the book." "Well, you're a *"

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Yeah, I don't think anyone here is dumb enough to make an argument like that, and that is certainly not what I was suggesting in my post. It's your book club, and if you think you can keep a discussion about the merits of a book and character interpretation interesting and engaging for more than perhaps 2 pages, then I look forward to our first topic. I've found, though, that if people feel like they're stuck in a classroom being lectured at, they lose interest quickly.

It's not mine, this is all Lally, I threw up those ideas from the "Most Popular" on Guterburg while shes gone. We are kind of limited on what we can use since we want to start with the free stuff. So I put up these to get a general idea in what people are interested in. And your avatar terrifies me.

Twitch said:

It's not mine, this is all Lally, I threw up those ideas from the "Most Popular" on Guterburg while shes gone. We are kind of limited on what we can use since we want to start with the free stuff. So I put up these to get a general idea in what people are interested in. And your avatar terrifies me.

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Sarah Palin is quite relevant to this conversation

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Twitch said:

It's not mine, this is all Lally, I threw up those ideas from the "Most Popular" on Guterburg while shes gone. We are kind of limited on what we can use since we want to start with the free stuff. So I put up these to get a general idea in what people are interested in. And your avatar terrifies me.

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Sarah Palin is quite relevant to this conversation

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I suppose so, I wonder if any of those books were on that supposed list.

I'll read whatever: I'm trying to read more, so having a Halforum book club might be a good thing for me.

I'm cool with whatever we read I'm kinda tired and out of it tonight so I don't have any better thoughts... I shall continue participating in the brainstorm tomorrow.

HowDroll has a pretty good point, especially for our first book. A book that won't overwhelm people and is going to provide plenty to discuss would be great. I have no idea what that would be though...

I smell a podcast topic....

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HowDroll has a pretty good point, especially for our first book. A book that won't overwhelm people and is going to provide plenty to discuss would be great. I have no idea what that would be though...

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Where's Waldo. It's so profound.

Oh tits, not that book, it takes too damn long to get through. I can never find that pompom-wearing, blue-jeaned, red-and-white sweater-loving motherfucker for the life of me. Goddamn. :angry:

That Sam I Am, that Sam I Am, that mother smurfing Sam I Am :explode:

I will not eat it with a goat!
Leave me be or I'll shove it down your throat!
I will not eat it on the grass!
Go away before I kick your ass!
I will not eat with some guy named Tom!
Last night I totally banged your mom!
I will not eat it in the thicket!
I'll show you where you can stick it!

I voted for Les Mis, as it's my favorite on the list. I think HowDroll has something of a point, but if we're going to be limited to free legal books on the internet (and we probably should be) I think this is a pretty good list to choose from. Hey, if we run out of things to talk about, we can just drag it down into a flamefest of Transformers 2 sized proportions :toocool:

Paradise Lost!

I would have voted Dracula, but i already started it... so instead i'll be giving Tom Sawyer some love... having read it being immaterial, right? Also, Huck Fin doesn't require it, but does read better imo if you already read Tom Sawyer...

And man, i recall reading The Count of Monte Cristo, but for the life of me i can't remember anything past him being in prison and the mentor guy that tells him about the treasure saying how the letter was written with the left hand, because apparently they all look the same if written left handed when you're right handed...

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Shakey said:

HowDroll has a pretty good point, especially for our first book. A book that won't overwhelm people and is going to provide plenty to discuss would be great. I have no idea what that would be though...

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Where's Waldo. It's so profound.

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The question is, what is Waldo really hiding from?

Shakey said:

Krisken said:

Shakey said:

HowDroll has a pretty good point, especially for our first book. A book that won't overwhelm people and is going to provide plenty to discuss would be great. I have no idea what that would be though...

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Where's Waldo. It's so profound.

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The question is, what is Waldo really hiding from?

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I think he really isn't hiding, but craving for acknowledgement. Otherwise, why would he hide with those outrageously noticeable clothes?

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Shakey said:

Krisken said:

Shakey said:

HowDroll has a pretty good point, especially for our first book. A book that won't overwhelm people and is going to provide plenty to discuss would be great. I have no idea what that would be though...

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Where's Waldo. It's so profound.

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The question is, what is Waldo really hiding from?

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I think he really isn't hiding, but craving for acknowledgement. Otherwise, why would he hide with those outrageously noticeable clothes?

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It's a bitter-sweet tale of a man who tries too hard to be noticed in a variety of settings, and yet is hard to notice no matter how hard he tries. It's a statement on the human condition, how we strive for attention in a world that is increasingly crowded and less intimate.

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Denbrought said:

Shakey said:

Krisken said:

Where's Waldo. It's so profound.

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The question is, what is Waldo really hiding from?

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I think he really isn't hiding, but craving for acknowledgement. Otherwise, why would he hide with those outrageously noticeable clothes?

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It's a bitter-sweet tale of a man who tries too hard to be noticed in a variety of settings, and yet is hard to notice no matter how hard he tries. It's a statement on the human condition, how we strive for attention in a world that is increasingly crowded and less intimate.

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I agree/disagree with some of the things that have just been said, but the mechanical mark-making of the sexual signifier threatens to penetrate the substructure of critical thinking.

-Adam

stienman said:

Krisken said:

Denbrought said:

Shakey said:

The question is, what is Waldo really hiding from?

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I think he really isn't hiding, but craving for acknowledgement. Otherwise, why would he hide with those outrageously noticeable clothes?

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It's a bitter-sweet tale of a man who tries too hard to be noticed in a variety of settings, and yet is hard to notice no matter how hard he tries. It's a statement on the human condition, how we strive for attention in a world that is increasingly crowded and less intimate.

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I agree/disagree with some of the things that have just been said, but the mechanical mark-making of the sexual signifier threatens to penetrate the substructure of critical thinking.

-Adam

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Jo encara diria més, la paralisi sintàctica en la descripció de les motivacions del personatge són, francament, sospitoses. L'ús indiscriminat d'adverbis temporals i posicionals en la prosa ens indica la existencia d'un dilema paradoxal en que el personatge i l'autor es troben atrapats.

Denbrought said:

stienman said:

Krisken said:

Denbrought said:

I think he really isn't hiding, but craving for acknowledgement. Otherwise, why would he hide with those outrageously noticeable clothes?

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It's a bitter-sweet tale of a man who tries too hard to be noticed in a variety of settings, and yet is hard to notice no matter how hard he tries. It's a statement on the human condition, how we strive for attention in a world that is increasingly crowded and less intimate.

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I agree/disagree with some of the things that have just been said, but the mechanical mark-making of the sexual signifier threatens to penetrate the substructure of critical thinking.

-Adam

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Jo encara diria més, la paralisi sintàctica en la descripció de les motivacions del personatge són, francament, sospitoses. L'ús indiscriminat d'adverbis temporals i posicionals en la prosa ens indica la existencia d'un dilema paradoxal en que el personatge i l'autor es troben atrapats.

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Je suis surpris que personne ne le mentionne encore que la perturbation de la disjonctive sexy poisson apporte dans le domaine des discours d'une participation dans le dialogue critique des années 90. En ce qui concerne la question du contenu, la qualité de réduction de la dimension spatiale des relations formelles de contextualiser les juxtapositions distinctif.

-Adam

This thread is going places.

Sexy fish, steinieman? Really?

stienman said:

Denbrought said:

stienman said:

Krisken said:

It's a bitter-sweet tale of a man who tries too hard to be noticed in a variety of settings, and yet is hard to notice no matter how hard he tries. It's a statement on the human condition, how we strive for attention in a world that is increasingly crowded and less intimate.

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I agree/disagree with some of the things that have just been said, but the mechanical mark-making of the sexual signifier threatens to penetrate the substructure of critical thinking.

-Adam

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Jo encara diria més, la paralisi sintàctica en la descripció de les motivacions del personatge són, francament, sospitoses. L'ús indiscriminat d'adverbis temporals i posicionals en la prosa ens indica la existencia d'un dilema paradoxal en que el personatge i l'autor es troben atrapats.

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Je suis surpris que personne ne le mentionne encore que la perturbation de la disjonctive sexy poisson apporte dans le domaine des discours d'une participation dans le dialogue critique des années 90. En ce qui concerne la question du contenu, la qualité de réduction de la dimension spatiale des relations formelles de contextualiser les juxtapositions distinctif.

-Adam

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Sin embargo, la sinestesia con la que el libro juega no es más que una falacia de magnitudes gargantuescas. En una experimentación que podria ser tachada de dadaista, y con claros trazos de faubismo, el contenido tiene un talante nostálgico que nos consigue embaucar en los primeros insantes pero que rapidamente se desvaneze por culpa de una prosa espesa y sin paralelismo alguno.

Denbrought said:

stienman said:

Denbrought said:

stienman said:

I agree/disagree with some of the things that have just been said, but the mechanical mark-making of the sexual signifier threatens to penetrate the substructure of critical thinking.

-Adam

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Jo encara diria més, la paralisi sintàctica en la descripció de les motivacions del personatge són, francament, sospitoses. L'ús indiscriminat d'adverbis temporals i posicionals en la prosa ens indica la existencia d'un dilema paradoxal en que el personatge i l'autor es troben atrapats.

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Je suis surpris que personne ne le mentionne encore que la perturbation de la disjonctive sexy poisson apporte dans le domaine des discours d'une participation dans le dialogue critique des années 90. En ce qui concerne la question du contenu, la qualité de réduction de la dimension spatiale des relations formelles de contextualiser les juxtapositions distinctif.

-Adam

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Sin embargo, la sinestesia con la que el libro juega no es más que una falacia de magnitudes gargantuescas. En una experimentación que podria ser tachada de dadaista, y con claros trazos de faubismo, el contenido tiene un talante nostálgico que nos consigue embaucar en los primeros insantes pero que rapidamente se desvaneze por culpa de una prosa espesa y sin paralelismo alguno.

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-Adam

You win, I ran out of languages I can write in (I could read german, latin... but write? no way jose).

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You win, I ran out of languages I can write in (I could read german, latin... but write? no way jose).

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I'm a dirty rotten cheater. The only languages I know beyond English are programming languages. Google translate is my friend.

-Adam

stienman said:

Denbrought said:

You win, I ran out of languages I can write in (I could read german, latin... but write? no way jose).

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I'm a dirty rotten cheater. The only languages I know beyond English are programming languages. Google translate is my friend.

-Adam

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*sets stienman on fire*

I LOVE Dracula. I've read that book minimum of 10 times in my life.

What I love most about it is how it is told via newspaper clippings, diary entries, and phonograph recordings.

I always thought it would be awsome if someone were to actually replicate all these things and put them together in a package with CDs for the phonograph recordings and an actual handwritten diary, etc...

stienman said:

Denbrought said:

You win, I ran out of languages I can write in (I could read german, latin... but write? no way jose).

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I'm a dirty rotten cheater. The only languages I know beyond English are programming languages. Google translate is my friend.

-Adam

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I just signed my response to you but none of you saw it. Ha.

(yeah yeah, video or it didn't happen; go with "it didn't happen")

Denbrought said:

stienman said:

Denbrought said:

You win, I ran out of languages I can write in (I could read german, latin... but write? no way jose).

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I'm a dirty rotten cheater. The only languages I know beyond English are programming languages. Google translate is my friend.

-Adam

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*sets stienman on fire*

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:aaahhh:

ZenMonkey said:

I just signed my response to you but none of you saw it. Ha.

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I'm guessing it wasn't unlike this:

(possibly NSFW? I haven't played it - I don't know what is voiced or shown)
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkFc2YuL9cA:36rnjpb2][/youtube:36rnjpb2]

-Adam

stienman said:

I'm guessing it wasn't unlike this:

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Although I have a similar sweatshirt -- yes it was very unlike that.

:explode:

I really hate when hearing ASL 1 students behave like that.

ZenMonkey said:

stienman said:

I'm guessing it wasn't unlike this:

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Although I have a similar sweatshirt -- yes it was very unlike that.

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I really hate when hearing ASL 1 students behave like that.

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Didn't you learn any extra languages as youngling? I remember learning basic swearwords for english back in elementary (before I went full throttle into the internet and basically learny all of them, and then some more). It was fun to say them, just for the heck of it. I don't understand the rage.

Denbrought said:

ZenMonkey said:

stienman said:

I'm guessing it wasn't unlike this:

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Although I have a similar sweatshirt -- yes it was very unlike that.

:explode:

I really hate when hearing ASL 1 students behave like that.

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Didn't you learn any extra languages as youngling? I remember learning basic swearwords for english back in elementary (before I went full throttle into the internet and basically learny all of them, and then some more). It was fun to say them, just for the heck of it. I don't understand the rage.

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I tease ZM with bad ASL.



-Adam

So we have an idea of free books that people might have interest in. At this point I suggest an idea of the format in which we do this, the time span, et cetera. Then we can poll on the top options so that we know what's really the most popular choice.

I have the ebooks of both the top choices on my Ipod touch, so I'm good to go.

I hope I'm not the only really slow reader. It takes me a few weeks to finish a book. Probably faster now that I'm temporarily unemployed.

Still only 1 vote for Huck Fin?! Seriously, it's a great book...

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Still only 1 vote for Huck Fin?! Seriously, it's a great book...

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I know, I read it 20 years ago!

Krisken said:

@Li3n said:

Still only 1 vote for Huck Fin?! Seriously, it's a great book...

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I know, I read it 20 years ago!

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I didn't know how to read 20 years ago... or pronounce R... it always came out L... i should have been Japanese.

@Li3n said:

Krisken said:

[quote="@Li3n":1gl4n92t]Still only 1 vote for Huck Fin?! Seriously, it's a great book...

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I know, I read it 20 years ago!

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I didn't know how to read 20 years ago... or pronounce R... it always came out L... i should have been Japanese.[/quote:1gl4n92t]
Well, it was required reading when I was 12. Still a good book, but I voted for others I hadn't read yet.

Krisken said:

Well, it was required reading when I was 12.

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Now that kinda shit would have made me not read it... but that's about the same age i read it too... not to sure though, i used to read a lot back then... School making reading mandatory kinda ruined that though...

Saya ini tak faham apa yang orang-orang ini sedang bercakap, aya rasa ialah lebih baik cakap di dalam bahasa portugis, sebab ada lebih penguna foum ini yang bercakap bahasa ini... então, há alguem aqui que fala português alem do nosso querido Green Lantern?

Mda... vad ca a-ti inceput toti sa vorbiti singuri...

But no, sorry, even with all the telenovelas from Brazil i saw as a kid i still can't speak portuguese...

JCM said:

há alguem aqui que fala português alem do nosso querido Green Lantern?

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I can kind of understand half of what people write in it thanks to its likeness to spanish, but that's about it.

Denbrought said:

JCM said:

há alguem aqui que fala português alem do nosso querido Green Lantern?

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I can kind of understand half of what people write in it thanks to its likeness to spanish, but that's about it.

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I always get spanish, french and italian confused in my head...

@Li3n said:

Denbrought said:

JCM said:

há alguem aqui que fala português alem do nosso querido Green Lantern?

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I can kind of understand half of what people write in it thanks to its likeness to spanish, but that's about it.

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I always get spanish, french and italian confused in my head...

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Damn, those all have special names? I was just going to call it "not English".

Spanish and Italian I can see, but French?

Twitch said:

Spanish and Italian I can see, but French?

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Why not? I can read french text as long as it's not using overtly complicate vocabulary and get most of it. Very similar to catalan too.

Srsly, it rocks to have proficiency with a romanic language, you get bonuses for checks on all the other ones in the family :3

Denbrought said:

Twitch said:

Spanish and Italian I can see, but French?

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Why not? I can read french text as long as it's not using overtly complicate vocabulary and get most of it. Very similar to catalan too.

Srsly, it rocks to have proficiency with a romanic language, you get bonuses for checks on all the other ones in the family :3

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I understand that but the differences between French and Italian/Spanish are much clearer. You can find the similarities and understand a surprising amount (I was a Spanish student, my friends all spoke French) but it's easy to tell them apart.

I just assumed he was jesting, I'd find it hard to confuse the languages...

Twitch said:

Denbrought said:

Twitch said:

Spanish and Italian I can see, but French?

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Why not? I can read french text as long as it's not using overtly complicate vocabulary and get most of it. Very similar to catalan too.

Srsly, it rocks to have proficiency with a romanic language, you get bonuses for checks on all the other ones in the family :3

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I understand that but the differences between French and Italian/Spanish are much clearer. You can find the similarities and understand a surprising amount (I was a Spanish student, my friends all spoke French) but it's easy to tell them apart.

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The best thing and also the most frustating while learning Spanish was knowing Portuguese beforehand, because while there are many similarities to help you get understood, at the same time there are endless differences and words that seem the same, but mean different things.

I had the same problems with Indonesian after learning Malay, and it seems to be what´s bothering my mother, who keeps getting English grammar mixed with English.

JCM said:

I had the same problems with Indonesian after learning Malay, and it seems to be what´s bothering my mother, who keeps getting English grammar mixed with English.

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Sorry, kind of lost you there, what do you mean?

German with English. Bleargh
BTW back ontopic

http://kotaku.com/5304338/kotakus-2009- ... ading-list

On new poll, voted Sherlock Holmes... mainly because I happen to have a hard copy of it handy. I MIGHT have either Dracula or Paradise Lost somewhere outside in a shed, but than I'd have to go fight the spiders just to check...

I was talking about when i try to speak them... mostly because i learned french in school, and the other two i picked up from TV... otherwise i'd would probably just be italian and spanish that my brain would confuse... coz i never really liked french as a language (had a cool teacher between 2-4 grade, but after between the 5th and 12th grade i forgot most of it even if it was in the curriculum).


Oh, and i vote Dracula, coz i really need some incentive to finish it right now...

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Srsly, it rocks to have proficiency with a romanic language, you get bonuses for checks on all the other ones in the family :3

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It's true; knowing French I'm able to read Spanish pretty well. And when I was in Italy, until I learned enough Italian I spoke French with some shopkeepers and they spoke Italian back and we understood each other.

It looks like there is a leader right now, and it's a pretty easy book to get through. I'm still hoping someone else is interested in actually leading this thing. I've never actually led before so I'd prefer it be someone with experience since it'll be a thing getting these people organized.

Poo, I have no interest in the count of monte cristo, but really want to read Paradise lost as it's the only book I HAVEN'T read before.

I've already read Dracula, but I'd read it again. I'm most interested in Count and Paradise Lost.

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It looks like there is a leader right now, and it's a pretty easy book to get through. I'm still hoping someone else is interested in actually leading this thing. I've never actually led before so I'd prefer it be someone with experience since it'll be a thing getting these people organized.

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I'm definitely interested in leading -- I'm just not exactly sure what to "do" myself. I guess we first need to decide on a fair time limit for reading the book. Perhaps the poll could be changed to reflect how fast people think they could read a novel?

I didn't vote in the most recent poll because I like all of those options, so it didn't matter which one won.

Hmmm, at least one is still leading I haven't read.

Lally said:

I'm definitely interested in leading -- I'm just not exactly sure what to "do" myself. I guess we first need to decide on a fair time limit for reading the book. Perhaps the poll could be changed to reflect how fast people think they could read a novel?

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There's a difference between how fast one can read a novel, and how much free time one has...


And shouldn't the people that already read it not need to read it again?! Or at least skip through the parts they remember reasonably well?

I'll check in the morning but I think there's a clear winner here. I'll change the poll to reflect time periods then.

I tend to deconstruct as I'm reading. I really love the flow of written language. This tends to slow me down, but if I have a deadline, I can probably crank up the speed at which I read.

Count was the winner btw

Aside from any Tucker Max books, I would like to suggest "Inside Delta Force" By CSM (Ret) Eric Haney.

Ok downloaded "Count De Money" reading now.

Dusty668 said:

Ok downloaded "Count De Money" reading now.

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Its "De Monet."

Well, I'm going to be available for most of the month but I won't really be posting until near August so... adieu.

I don't know how long it would take. I could probably get through fairly quickly, but I don't know how long the book is so I can't give a reasonable estimate.

That being said, I am a fairly brisk reader, so odds are someone else participating will be slower than me. And if we're catering to that person, there should be no issue.

Just got the Graveyard book.

JCM said:

Just got the Graveyard book.

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The Gaiman book? Enjoy it, I sure did.

I put down 1 week (or faster) but I rather have extra time since we are all busy with other stuff. I say 4 weeks is good.