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Dec 23, 2009#1

Laurelai

Found on a friend's FB wall- please please PLEASE tell me people don't think this is real.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/22/transvestites-mao-and-obama-decorate-white-house-christmas-tree/

I read several of the comments to see if this was tongue in cheek, and unless everyone who posts on this site had a very dry sense of humor, apparently they believe its true.

e-fukkin'-gads

Dec 23, 2009#2

Chibibar

heh... I can't tell if it is hoax news or real news, but after reading the article, I think it is a hoax, but if it is real, well... I'm kinda sad.

Dec 23, 2009#3

General Specific

I'm just wondering where their Festivus Pole is!

OBAMA IS WAGING WAR ON FESTIVUS!!

Dec 23, 2009#4

Chippy

I heard Obama wants to kill our babies and rape our guns confirm/deny

Dec 23, 2009#5

General Specific

Obama wants to set free all of the convicts in prison and then imprison all the good, honest people! Then, since we're in prison, we will be forced to bum rape each other, thus promoting the homosexual agenda!

Dec 23, 2009#6

Krisken

If it is a joke, with all the crazies coming out of the fringe groups lately, it's hard to tell.

They certainly make for good T.V. though.

Edit: Oh, and if you want a real laugh, check out the comments.

Dec 23, 2009#7

phil

They replaced my pre-set hip hop station with conservative talk. The first thing that I heard the first DJ say on that station was that Obama was a secret muslim.

I'll believe that people believe anything these days.

Dec 23, 2009#8

rabbitgod

Amorous Vyxen said:
Also, just to nitpick with what was already a dumbass article, Hedda Lettuce is a drag queen, not a transvestite.

One of the comments said that they thought it looked more like Ru Paul. We all know those perverts all look the same. It's part of the uniform of the secret homosexual agenda police.

Dec 23, 2009#9

Kitty Sinatra

Them bleeding heart secret homosexual agenda police already got to me. I used to love looking at a beautiful girl naked. But now, if that girl's not doing another girl I just don't care

Dec 23, 2009#10

Krisken

Amorous Vyxen said:
There were comments?

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Oh God... WHY did I read those?

How can they all believe that?

And who cares if they celebrate xmas or not?
Hell, I don't even see how it matters if he was in fact a Muslim.

That's all rhetorical, I know these nutjobs view any non-white Christian as an interloper and a (potential) terrorist.

AMURRIKA! FUCK YEAH!

Hah, I told ya it was entertaining! Conservatainment!

Dec 23, 2009#11

Chibibar

Well... it can be as real as the Health Care bill coming to the U.S.

Dec 23, 2009#12

DarkAudit

It's this kind of crap that gets forwarded to me by relatives. I thought they were better than that. I'm really close to just cutting off all contact with them.

Dec 23, 2009#13

Chronos[Ha-G]

My father is the type to believe all the "Secret Muslim!", and "He bowed down to a foreign power!", and "he's promoting blah this and blah that!" sort of stuff, which I know he receives in emails from...other people. Fortunately, either he doesn't like forwarding those emails to other people he knows, or he just doesn't forward them to me. Whatever the reason, I'm grateful - even if I did identify with either of the major parties, this stuff would piss me off.

Dec 23, 2009#14

Wasabi Poptart

DarkAudit said:
It's this kind of crap that gets forwarded to me by relatives. I thought they were better than that. I'm really close to just cutting off all contact with them.

THIS!! I can expect a link to this crap from my dad in 5...4...3...2..

Dec 23, 2009#15

Armadillo

Well, as much as I hate to say it, I think this is real. As I remember, the White House had a "send in an ornament" deal, which is pretty benign. However, if an ornament with Chairman Mao's picture IS on the White House Christmas Tree, I can't bring myself to just dismiss it. With the insane amount of protocol people there, I'd be amazed that it snuck through.

Now, for the sake of argument, imagine that another President had an ornament on their tree that had a picture of Hitler on it. Would that be "no big deal" and people bothered by it "hysterical?" Now multiply Hitler's body count by 10 or so, and you've got Mao. There is no way, no how that a picture of Chairman Mao should be anywhere NEAR the White House. Period.

Dec 23, 2009#16

Shegokigo

Armadillo said:
Well, as much as I hate to say it, I think this is real. As I remember, the White House had a "send in an ornament" deal, which is pretty benign. However, if an ornament with Chairman Mao's picture IS on the White House Christmas Tree, I can't bring myself to just dismiss it. With the insane amount of protocol people there, I'd be amazed that it snuck through.

Now, for the sake of argument, imagine that another President had an ornament on their tree that had a picture of Hitler on it. Would that be "no big deal" and people bothered by it "hysterical?" Now multiply Hitler's body count by 10 or so, and you've got Mao. There is no way, no how that a picture of Chairman Mao should be anywhere NEAR the White House. Period.

Dec 23, 2009#17

Kitty Sinatra

Armadillo said:
With the insane amount of protocol people there, I'd be amazed that it snuck through.

Because not one single thing has ever snuck past Obama's people.

Dec 23, 2009#18

Armadillo

Gruebeard;320402][quote=Armadillo said:
With the insane amount of protocol people there, I'd be amazed that it snuck through.

Because not one single thing has ever snuck past Obama's people.[/QUOTE]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Obama himself, but the protocol folks didn't do their job here. Mao was a pretty bad guy, and again, I don't think we'd be seeing this "oh whatever" reaction if it was a different President (Bush) with a Hitler photo ornament.

Also, I'd be more than happy to see this be proven false. Hell, I WANT it to be false. I just don't think it is.

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Shegokigo;320398][quote=Armadillo said:
Well, as much as I hate to say it, I think this is real. As I remember, the White House had a "send in an ornament" deal, which is pretty benign. However, if an ornament with Chairman Mao's picture IS on the White House Christmas Tree, I can't bring myself to just dismiss it. With the insane amount of protocol people there, I'd be amazed that it snuck through.

Now, for the sake of argument, imagine that another President had an ornament on their tree that had a picture of Hitler on it. Would that be "no big deal" and people bothered by it "hysterical?" Now multiply Hitler's body count by 10 or so, and you've got Mao. There is no way, no how that a picture of Chairman Mao should be anywhere NEAR the White House. Period.

[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, you take issue with my statement?

Dec 23, 2009#19

Armadillo

AGAIN, I'm only going on what I remember: the White House had a "send in an ornament" thing for the Christmas tree. All of my statements here are predicated on this being real, which I certainly can't confirm. IF IT IS REAL, would you join me in believing that it's not just a "silly li'l thing" that the mass murderer responsible for 50,000,000 deaths is on an ornament on the official White House Christmas tree?

Dec 24, 2009#20

Twitch

Armadillo said:
AGAIN, I'm only going on what I remember: the White House had a "send in an ornament" thing for the Christmas tree. All of my statements here are predicated on this being real, which I certainly can't confirm. IF IT IS REAL, would you join me in believing that it's not just a "silly li'l thing" that the mass murderer responsible for 50,000,000 deaths is on an ornament on the official White House Christmas tree?

If we're going to complain about his placement let's at least point out that it's a painting done by a little known artist by the name of Andy Warhol.

Dec 24, 2009#21

Kitty Sinatra

Yeah, those pics are fakes anyway.

You're right that some ornaments were created by other people and sent in, but they were firs sent out to those people, and they were asked to pay tribute to local landmarks. I don't think Hedda Lettuce and Mao are American landmarks. Right?

Here's a more reasonable link:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/12/white-house-recycles-christmas-tree-ornaments.php

Dec 24, 2009#22

Armadillo

Twitch;320408][quote=Armadillo said:
AGAIN, I'm only going on what I remember: the White House had a \"send in an ornament\" thing for the Christmas tree. All of my statements here are predicated on this being real, which I certainly can't confirm. IF IT IS REAL, would you join me in believing that it's not just a \"silly li'l thing\" that the mass murderer responsible for 50,000,000 deaths is on an ornament on the official White House Christmas tree?

If we're going to complain about his placement let's at least point out that it's a painting done by a little known artist by the name of Andy Warhol.[/QUOTE]

Goody gumdrops. It's an Andy Warhol painting of a mass murderer responsible for the deaths of 50,000,000 Chinese.

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Gruebeard said:
Yeah, those pics are fakes anyway.

You're right that some ornaments were created by other people and sent in, but they were firs sent out to those people, and they were asked to pay tribute to local landmarks. I don't think Hedda Lettuce and Mao are American landmarks. Right?

Here's a more reasonable link:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/12/white-house-recycles-christmas-tree-ornaments.php

Like I said, I want this to be fake. The thought of that scumbag's picture on the WH tree sickens me.

Dec 24, 2009#23

Timmus

Is it just me or is that not a very flattering picture of Mao anyway? It looks like he is wearing makeup or something. Even if this actually is on the tree it seems like a bit of stretch to say he is being glorified.

I doubt a Christmas tree is anything Mao would have wanted his image associated with anyways.

That said if it's real and the intent was to poke fun at Mao it's still a pretty bad move to put it on the white house tree.

Dec 24, 2009#24

Null

Arm, Tim, you're both fucking idiots for even entertaining the possibility that it's not fake.

Dec 24, 2009#25

Kitty Sinatra

Armadillo said:
Like I said, I want this to be fake. The thought of that scumbag's picture on the WH tree sickens me.

It would sicken Mao, too. Communists don't wanna be hanging from no Christian symbol.

Dec 24, 2009#26

Armadillo

Amorous Vyxen;320415][quote=Armadillo said:
Like I said, I want this to be fake. The thought of that scumbag's picture on the WH tree sickens me.

Yes, but what makes you think it's not? Again I cite the example of a closeup xmas ball with "sup 4chan" on it. How does that make you think it's true?[/QUOTE]

Well, apparently Hedda Lettuce herself thinks it's real:

www.heddalettuce.com

...the White House’s comments on this media storm have been odd. I almost get the feeling that they are embarrassed by it all, as if they knew about this in advance they would have left my ball in the box. I understand completely by being a bit taken aback about the ball with General Mao’s picture on it, after all he was responsible for killing over 50 million of his people.

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Lying Bastard said:
Arm, Tim, you're both fucking idiots for even entertaining the possibility that it's not fake.

And why is that?

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Gruebeard;320420][quote=Armadillo said:
Like I said, I want this to be fake. The thought of that scumbag's picture on the WH tree sickens me.

It would sicken Mao, too. Communists don't wanna be hanging from no Christian symbol.[/QUOTE]

True. How did he feel about Andy Warhol, though?

Dec 24, 2009#27

Twitch

Seriously? Are we going to say that Andy Warhol was idolizing chairman Mao? This thread is as bad as the comments on that news article if that's the case. I'm done here.

Dec 24, 2009#28

Null

BUT IT ISN'T FUCKING THERE, YOU DUMB FUCKS!

You have three low quality pictures that could have been taken anywhere, posted on a dubious website, and saying "OH NOES DEMOCRATS HATE XMAS"

and you fuckers are going, "Yeah, that might be true."

Fucking kill yourselves for being that stupid.

Dec 24, 2009#29

Armadillo

Twitch said:
Seriously? Are we going to say that Andy Warhol was idolizing chairman Mao? This thread is as bad as the comments on that news article if that's the case. I'm done here.

Who said that?

Dec 24, 2009#30

Twitch

Goody gumdrops. It's an Andy Warhol painting of a mass murderer responsible for the deaths of 50,000,000 Chinese.

Thus implying that the focus of the art transcends the point of the work and all that remains is Mao's murderous legacy.

Dec 24, 2009#31

Armadillo

Lying Bastard said:
BUT IT ISN'T FUCKING THERE, YOU DUMB FUCKS!

You have three low quality pictures that could have been taken anywhere, posted on a dubious website, and saying "OH NOES DEMOCRATS HATE XMAS"

and you fuckers are going, "Yeah, that might be true."

Fucking kill yourselves for being that stupid.

Welllllll...I don't know that I'd call Big Government "dubious." Biased, yes. They're the ones who broke the ACORN sting story. You know, the one that led to ACORN having their funding stripped by Congress, a whole bunch of firings, and just incredibly bad PR. The evidence that this is fake is as strong as the evidence that it's real. So, can we really say one way or another until more evidence comes out?

And man, won't you feel like a jerk if this is proven true?

Dec 24, 2009#32

Twitch

Fact:Lyingbastard never feels like a jerk.

Dec 24, 2009#33

Armadillo

Twitch said:
Goody gumdrops. It's an Andy Warhol painting of a mass murderer responsible for the deaths of 50,000,000 Chinese.

Click to expand...

Thus implying that the focus of the art transcends the point of the work and all that remains is Mao's murderous legacy.

No matter what Warhol's personal feelings about Mao were, it doesn't change Mao's track record. I never said Warhol idolized Mao, and it really doesn't matter in this circumstance.

Dec 24, 2009#34

Kitty Sinatra

Huh. I'm willing to consider this as real. That Hedda Ball could have been created by a gay-friendly community group (there's lots of rainbows on it) and the Mao one looks like it could contain the images of other artworks (which presumably reside in the same gallery as that Warhol pic.) That's pure speculation on my part. But I can live with that.

And if I'm right, I'd have no issue with Mao's ball. It's artwork. Art can be shocking and obscene and is just fine with me. And if that work is hanging in a gallery in the States somewhere, it is a local landmark and fits the tree's theme.

Dec 24, 2009#35

Armadillo

Gruebeard said:
Huh. I'm willing to consider this as real. That Hedda Ball could have been created by a gay-friendly community group (there's lots of rainbows on it) and the Mao one looks like it could contain the images of other artworks (which presumably reside in the same gallery as that Warhol pic.) That's pure speculation on my part. But I can live with that.

And if I'm right, I'd have no issue with Mao's ball. It's artwork. Art can be shocking and obscene and is just fine with me. And if that work is hanging in a gallery in the States somewhere, it is a local landmark and fits the tree's theme.

Well now you'll be told to kill yourself. So you've got that going for you, which is nice.

I disagree with you about Mao's picture on a White House Christmas tree being OK regardless of context, but I can respect where you're coming from. I abhor censorship in art as well, but I just don't see this as the right place.

Dec 24, 2009#36

Twitch

I have posters, postcards, books, photos, framed art, of Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc and I'll probably hang the Mao in a classroom in the future. An image is only what the hanger meant to put across. Does my copy of Mein Kampf mean I profess the same view as Hitler? I keep it and some other German things in rather prominent display but no one has ever called me a nazi for it. The tree and this non propoganda depiction of Mao should be the same.

Dec 24, 2009#37

Kitty Sinatra

Armadillo said:
Well now you'll be told to kill yourself. So you've got that going for you, which is nice.

Well crap. I'd've preferred to have been told that before I bothered rushing around today finishing up my Christmas shopping. Would've saved me some aggravation

Dec 24, 2009#38

Armadillo

Twitch said:
I have posters, postcards, books, photos, framed art, of Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc and I'll probably hang the Mao in a classroom in the future. An image is only what the hanger meant to put across. Does my copy of Mein Kampf mean I profess the same view as Hitler? I keep it and some other German things in rather prominent display but no one has ever called me a nazi for it. The tree and this non propoganda depiction of Mao should be the same.

The issue isn't whether or not Obama holds the same views as Mao, but whether or not it's right to have the picture of a man whose policies and actions stood in stark contrast to America's ideals: repression of religion, murder of dissenters, indoctrination, and so on on an official White House ANYTHING.

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Gruebeard;320445][quote=Armadillo said:
Well now you'll be told to kill yourself. So you've got that going for you, which is nice.

Well crap. I'd've preferred to have been told that before I bothered rushing around today finishing up my Christmas shopping. Would've saved me some aggravation[/QUOTE]

Ya see? That's what happens when you procrastinate.

Dec 24, 2009#39

Timmus

Lying Bastard said:
Arm, Tim, you're both fucking idiots for even entertaining the possibility that it's not fake.

I was being hypothetical.

The point I was trying to make was that even if it were true--and I don't mean to insinuate that it is-- it would be stupid to assume that the reason it's there is because Obama hates America and Christmas.

Hypothetically speaking it would be really stupid PR move by the White House to have it there but that's so obvious that it's probably obnoxious of me to say so. Sorry everyone.

To be clear: I don't personally think it's real but I would not be personally offended if it were. I would think the white house fucked up though.

Also I wouldn't mind having those ornaments myself actually. They look kind of cool.

Dec 24, 2009#40

Null

Timmus;320448][quote=Lying Bastard said:
Arm, Tim, you're both fucking idiots for even entertaining the possibility that it's not fake.

Dec 24, 2009#41

Krisken

I'm not saying it's real, but isn't it interesting that no one else is asking why Obama wants 50,000,000 Chinese people dead? Proof of a liberal media conspiracy?

Just think about it.

(Holy crap, it hurts to be that dumb)

Dec 24, 2009#42

Chronos[Ha-G]

Krisken said:
I'm not saying it's real, but isn't it interesting that no one else is asking why Obama wants 50,000,000 Chinese people dead? Proof of a liberal media conspiracy?

Just think about it.

(Holy crap, it hurts to be that dumb)

This entire thread hurts...Who wants aspirin?

Dec 24, 2009#43

@Li3n

Krisken said:
I'm not saying it's real, but isn't it interesting that no one else is asking why Obama wants 50,000,000 Chinese people dead? Proof of a liberal media conspiracy?

Because that's ridiculous, dead chinese = good for the US, and Obama would never do anything that's good for the country.

Dec 24, 2009#44

makare

Krisken said:
I'm not saying it's real, but isn't it interesting that no one else is asking why Obama wants 50,000,000 Chinese people dead? Proof of a liberal media conspiracy?

Just think about it.

(Holy crap, it hurts to be that dumb)

May I draw on your blackboard?

Dec 24, 2009#45

Kitty Sinatra

Krisken said:
I'm not saying it's real, but isn't it interesting that no one else is asking why Obama wants 50,000,000 Chinese people dead? Proof of a liberal media conspiracy?

Just think about it.

Well see, China owns the liberal media as well as all those US dollars they have.

Dec 24, 2009#46

Krisken

makare1;320540][quote=Krisken said:
I'm not saying it's real, but isn't it interesting that no one else is asking why Obama wants 50,000,000 Chinese people dead? Proof of a liberal media conspiracy?

Just think about it.

(Holy crap, it hurts to be that dumb)

May I draw on your blackboard?[/QUOTE]
Do you have a PhD in Conservatainment?

Dec 24, 2009#47

DarkAudit

Merry Christmas, Armadillo. You're getting a great big *PLONK* from me. Bye.

Dec 24, 2009#48

North_Ranger

Sometimes I envy conspiracy theorists. It must be so soothing to live in a world where everything is controlled by the Conspiracy. Even if you fight against the Conspiracy from your secret underground lair in your mother's basement in Idaho, you still don't have to worry your pretty little head with thinking.

Merry Christmas, y'all.

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