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Pouring One Out

Dec 7, 2011#1

Frankie Williamson

I was thinking today while I was whittling away at my ever growing stack of paperwork about game companies of today and yore that I miss. Companies like Capcom, who at one time only needed to have their stamp on a NES game for my friends and I to immediately want it more than anything. Mega Mans, Disney Games, Strider (yeah, NES Strider), Bionic Commando, etc were all pinnacles of NES action games. The Capcom of today? Not so much.

Same goes for Square. Playstation One era Square may be hands down my favorite game company of all time. They weren't afraid to experiment and while some of those games were a little.....out there (Saga Frontier) others ended up being old favorites of mine (Brave Fencer Musashi, Einhander). Again, what is the Squeenix of today? Boring, safe Dragon Quest games and God awful Final Fantasy spinoffs. Hell, if it weren't for their acquisition of Eidos, some say the company would have gone under by now.

Dec 7, 2011#2

sixpackshaker

SSI and the 1st edition AD&D gold box games.

Dec 7, 2011#3

Jay

Old School Koei, before they took an arrow to the knee and kept making shitty Dynasty games.

Dec 7, 2011#4

figmentPez

LucasArts, back when they actually gave a damn about adventure games, or anything besides Star Wars.

Dec 7, 2011#5

Vrii

I actually really liked Saga Frontier. So I guess old Square for me, too - I didn't like everything they did, but I got a lot of fun out of the stuff I did enjoy.

Dec 7, 2011#6

Shegokigo

I miss Working Designs. The best storytelling, compelling character building, beautiful animation cut scene making RPG maker of their time.

Dec 7, 2011#7

PatrThom

Sierra Online and Looking Glass Studios.
Oh, and Peter Molynieux, before he went rogue.

--Patrick

Dec 7, 2011#8

bhamv3

I pretty much feel about Valve the way you felt about Capcom. I have no idea what DOTA is, and I don't care. Valve made it, so I'm gonna get it.

Now if only they'd give me another Half-Life game.

Dec 7, 2011#9

Shegokigo

Valve most definitely didn't make DOTA

Dec 7, 2011#10

Covar

bhamv3 said:
I pretty much feel about Valve the way you felt about Capcom. I have no idea what DOTA is, and I don't care. Valve made it, so I'm gonna get it.

Now if only they'd give me another Half-Life game.

How about a t-shirt?

Dec 7, 2011#11

sixpackshaker

Covar said:
How about a t-shirt?

So they CAN count to 3.

Dec 7, 2011#12

bhamv3

Shegokigo said:
Valve most definitely didn't make DOTA

You're right, credit where credit's due, Valve was not the creator of the DOTA mod.

To clarify, I have no idea what the upcoming game DOTA 2 will be like, but I'm getting it anyway.

Dec 7, 2011#13

ThatNickGuy

Sierra's definitely it for me. They were the bees knees of gaming back in the day. Hell, if it wasn't for them, a lot of revolutions in gaming may not have occurred. The King's Quest series improved with every new game, which in turn improved their other series game-by-game. And then one of my all time favourite games got made...Gabriel Knight. *swoon*

But I think the era of 3-D games and FPS' like Doom pretty much stomped a mudhole on adventure games.

*sigh* I miss the days when adventure games were the best thing about gaming.

Dec 7, 2011#14

Namesake

I've been pining over pre-Enix Squaresoft lately, that's why in the last year I've replayed Final Fantasy 6, 7 and 8, Threads of Fate and now playing Chrono Cross for the third time.

Dec 8, 2011#15

AshburnerX

I'll go in for Square as well. Where's the sequel to Vagrant Story? It was your first Perfect Score from Famitsu... back when that actually MEANT something. Where's my epic saga of games like you original envisioned.

Dec 8, 2011#16

Shegokigo

I'm still waiting on a real Lunar game post Eternal Blue..... *le'sigh*

Dec 8, 2011#17

Azurephoenix

Any PC gamers here miss Bullfrog? Populous, Magic Carpet, Syndicate, Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper... those were some damn classics.

Dec 8, 2011#18

Gared

Dungeon Keeper and Syndicate, damn do I miss those old games. Also, Might and Magic before Heroes of Might and Magic came out; and I'd still love to see an updated version of Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.

Dec 8, 2011#19

PatrThom

Azurephoenix said:
Any PC gamers here miss Bullfrog? Populous, Magic Carpet, Syndicate, Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper... those were some damn classics.

Ayep. That's why I mentioned Molynieux. I still own 4 of those 5 games, and DKII, besides.

--Patrick

Dec 9, 2011#20

AshburnerX

mr_thehun said:
fuck i would love some syndicate.

Well the good news is your getting more Syndicate...

The bad news is that ti's going to be an FPS.

Dec 9, 2011#21

Jay

Worked for Shadowrun didn't it?

Dec 9, 2011#22

AshburnerX

I'm honestly conflicted... on one hand, games like Payday: The Heist and Left 4 Dead show that a squad based FPS can be excellent if they make the action intense and interesting. On the other hand, most series revivals (like Shadowrun) suuuuuucccccckk. So I'm not sure how it will turn out.

Dec 9, 2011#23

Azurephoenix

I'd like to mention another developer that I think was amazing and I really miss their brand of games.

Microprose.

The team that brought us such titles as Darklands, Master of Magic, Master of Orion, Red Storm Rising, Pirates and let us not forget... X-Com. Damn I love X-Com. I still play that game along with Master of Magic every once in a while... and they are still fun.

Dec 9, 2011#24

AshburnerX

If you like X-Com, prepare to be disappointed as well... it too is getting an FPS remake, though it actually looks decent.

Spoony, however, disagrees.

Dec 9, 2011#25

sixpackshaker

Azurephoenix said:
I'd like to mention another developer that I think was amazing and I really miss their brand of games.

Microprose.

The team that brought us such titles as Darklands, Master of Magic, Master of Orion, Red Storm Rising, Pirates and let us not forget... X-Com. Damn I love X-Com. I still play that game along with Master of Magic every once in a while... and they are still fun.

Not to mention Flight Simulators that were not fly in this invisible tube and twitch at the right moment...

Dec 9, 2011#26

Azurephoenix

Sixpackshaker, they did have a lot of really good flight sims... not a lot of those around anymore.

AshburnerX... I have grave reservations about a FPS X-Com. Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised... but I doubt it.

Dec 9, 2011#27

AshburnerX

Azurephoenix said:
AshburnerX... I have grave reservations about a FPS X-Com. Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised... but I doubt it.

It does at least have some tactical involvement, where you can direct your squad mates to do things and control what gets researched. But yes, it's very different and they don't seem to be including most of the classic aliens.

Dec 9, 2011#28

drawn_inward

I guess Origin - though I just really miss Wing Commander. I played those games so much; too much probably. And, the crappy movie didn't help.

Dec 9, 2011#29

Azurephoenix

I really miss Ultima 6, 7, and 7 part 2. Origin had some goodies... again... till EA choked the life out of them.

Dec 9, 2011#30

Officer_Charon

I still have Ultima 6's Gargoyle music as my ring tone... RIP Origin...

Dec 9, 2011#31

Shaw Coyote

Shegokigo said:
I miss Working Designs. The best storytelling, compelling character building, beautiful animation cut scene making RPG maker of their time.

I absoloutely LOVED the original sega CD versions of the Lunar games. Lunar: The Silver Star was my first real RPG. I keep hoping that the playstation remakes will show up on PSN.

Dec 9, 2011#32

Shegokigo

The PSP remake was beautiful. I'm hoping they rethink their decision not to remake Eternal Blue as it's one of those rare situation where a perfect game is trumped only by it's sequel.

Dec 9, 2011#33

AshburnerX

Shaw Coyote said:
I absoloutely LOVED the original sega CD versions of the Lunar games. Lunar: The Silver Star was my first real RPG. I keep hoping that the playstation remakes will show up on PSN.

It's more likely you'll see the PSP version on the PSN.

Dec 9, 2011#34

Shaw Coyote

Dec 9, 2011#35

Shegokigo

Why the sad face? I found the PSP remake to be the best possible thing to happen to the series.

Dec 9, 2011#36

Shaw Coyote

I remember checking it out when it was first announced, and from the videos it looked like they had updated the combat and changed the story. I was a little dissapointed that it wasn't a brand new game.

Dec 9, 2011#37

Officer_Charon

So, not so much sad that the remake was so spectacular as it is sad that this experience didn't come with a whole new story along with it?

Dec 9, 2011#38

Shaw Coyote

Hmmm... I guess it's threefold.

1. Sad that it wasn't a new game

2. Sad that I didn't get to play it as I didn't have a psp

3. Sad that if it DOES go on psn, they most likely would not put any other version up.

Although,

4. Happy that if it does go up on PSN I'd actually get to play it.

Dec 9, 2011#39

Shegokigo

Let me put it this way, as a fan of Lunar, it's worth buying a PSP for this experience alone.

They didn't change the storyline, they ADDED alot of missing pieces. The entire game opening is the story of how Dyne/Althena/Ghaleon etc finished off the "evil" of their time.

Seriously, it's amazing. The new artwork, the new backrounds, the new animated cut scenes. Pure perfection.

Dec 9, 2011#40

Shaw Coyote

Darn it...

I've been happy with my DS, but was thinking of upgrading to the 3DS. Maybe I'll hold out and get a PSP and Lunar for christmas...

Dec 9, 2011#41

Shegokigo

You can get an easy grab PSP for less than $80 if you're Craigslist savvy. Lunar is not hard to get ahold of either.

Dec 9, 2011#42

Shaw Coyote

This,
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-P...RN0M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1323459533&sr=8-3
and this,
http://www.amazon.com/Lunar-Silver-..._1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1323459600&sr=1-1
have been added to my cart.

Dec 9, 2011#43

Shegokigo

I never played anything on a PSP3000, my 2000 has served me well for a damn long time. You're really going to be floored by what you've missed.

Dec 9, 2011#44

Namesake

Shegokigo said:
I'm still waiting on a real Lunar game post Eternal Blue..... *le'sigh*

Another Lunar fan? all Sin does is make fun of the voice acting and the musical numbers which I may or may not have burned to a cd.....

Dec 9, 2011#45

Frankie Williamson

That's a pretty easy and broad target, Lunar's voice acting.

Dec 10, 2011#46

Bowielee

I used to love me some Sierra games. I remember when they had an MMO that got completely destroyed when EQ came out. It went from somewhat full servers to ghost town virtually overnight.

Dec 11, 2011#47

Frankie Williamson

I'm gonna throw out Toys for Bob. They've been stuck making kiddie games for too fucking long under Activision's thumb. These are the guys responsible for Star Control 2. One of the greatest video games of all time, bar none. I was thinking about them because I was trying to remember games from the age of the original Lunar that actually had good voice acting and I remembered some of the aliens from the 3DO version of SC2.

One of the best villains from any game, because of their complex motivation, the Ur-Quan

Shit, I just realized Star Control 2 is almost 20 years old now. FUUUUUUUUUUCK time.

Dec 11, 2011#48

Officer_Charon

Bowielee said:
I used to love me some Sierra games. I remember when they had an MMO that got completely destroyed when EQ came out. It went from somewhat full servers to ghost town virtually overnight.

Holy shit, I remember that.... "The Realm." I was signed on for testing it (read as play an MMO before I knew what they were)... left before EQ came out, though.

It's still there, if you know where to look. Haven't played it, though

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