Random Comic Book Crap

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I wanted to post something but it didn't fit the News or Reading mold, so here we go. Random Comic Book Crap. For when you just want to post or talk about something random. I don't know if this thread will get much love, but what the hell. Let's give it a whirl. First up:

Comics fan fiction time. DC has hired YOU to write a DC Multiverse series in the same vein as Marvel's Exiles (basically Sliders, but with superheroes). Who's on your team and what's the first reality they visit?
My team:

-Superboy from the two-part Elseworlds annuals that was post-apocalyptic, Superman had died and Superboy took his place.
-Az-Bat (Jean-Paul Valley Batman, one where he successfully defeated the Bat Family and became the only Batman)
-Barry Allen Flash, but the one from late in Mark Waid's run with the darker red suit and scar over his face.
-Aztek
-Prysm (kind of forgotten Teen Titan character)
-An Earth 3 (aka: the evil counterparts universe) version of Aquaman. It's Mera in the role.
-A version of Tommny Monoghan (Hitman) who actually DID join Morrison's JLA. Still a jerk, but working with Superman made him a better person.

First reality they visit: A virus transformed everyone in the world into Man-Bats.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Shit, right. I honestly forgot they basically HAVE a team like this now. Please keep in mind that I barely pay attention to Marvel or DC anymore.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

I got the deluxe edition, the book cover doubles as a map of the current DC multiverse and everything. ALSO-Captain Marvel is called Captain god-damned Marvel in this, AS COMMANDED BY THE SOURCE! Seriously, if we can have TWO Scarecrows in DC and Marvel, we can have two Captain Marvels.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

So I'm in the middle of watching this YouTube documentary. It basically details the comic book bubble of the 1990s, like the rise of Image and Marvel's bankruptcy. It's especially interesting for me in his coverage of Valiant Comics, which I've never read any of their work or know anything about the company. It's amazing how quickly that company turned into a giant dumpster fire.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP7v2GoLok37YBm3WBaqvrKd97uSMYDPT

Some of his comments or facts bug me a little. For example:
-Calling Savage Dragon "Hulk, but with a fin." Which is just untrue in about every way.
-Saying Guido from X-Factor didn't have a superhero name (he did: Strong Guy)

So I question the accuracy of some of his information, but so far, from what I understand of the business at the time, he's pretty spot on.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Three guys I hope come back are Winky, Blinky, and Noddy, primarily the ones from the Silver Age where they had the combined IQ of 150, but only when they bonked their heads together. They could've at least shown up in Bat Mite or something.

EDIT: ALSO-has there ever been like, a Ten-Eyed Superman? I feel there was, like in a Grant Morrison story.
 
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Dave

Dave

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They need to make the first paragraph in italics, bold, or some other identifying script to let the reader know when editorializing ends and Nick begins.
 
Dave

Dave

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NOW it reads better. And so far I agree with your points. The big events - excuse me - BIIIIIIIG EVEEEEEEENTS and their thousands of ancillary one-offs in established titles are the reason I stopped buying comics. It was like a part-time job trying to figure out what was missed. It was nothing more than a ham-fisted money-grab.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Also agree to the one book thing, for fuck's sake Action comics and Superman are the same damn story! YES-by two different writers, but its clearly a flowing narrative that should be in one solo fucking book!

EDIT: QUESTION-was Extreme Justice terrible? I assume it had to be, given it was in the nineties, had extreme in the title, and tried to make the Wonder Twins look bad-ass.
 
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ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Dei said:
I don't know if your can do anything about this, but in a couple of spots, the section titles do this on mobile.

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EDIT: QUESTION-was Extreme Justice terrible? I assume it had to be, given it was in the nineties, had extreme in the title, and tried to make the Wonder Twins look bad-ass.
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NOW it reads better. And so far I agree with your points. The big events - excuse me - BIIIIIIIG EVEEEEEEENTS and their thousands of ancillary one-offs in established titles are the reason I stopped buying comics. It was like a part-time job trying to figure out what was missed. It was nothing more than a ham-fisted money-grab.
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Which is exactly why I stick almost exclusively to Image titles these days. I can go from Volume 1 to Volume 2 without needing to read anything else.
 
Dave

Dave

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I, too, think these are great ideas. The industry is what has stopped me from buying comics, not the books. If I go in to a store and see a series at #300 I will not buy it! I figure that I've missed a lot of the interesting stuff and am now just into the spinning-wheels portion of the story.
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Dave said:
I, too, think these are great ideas. The industry is what has stopped me from buying comics, not the books. If I go in to a store and see a series at #300 I will not buy it! I figure that I've missed a lot of the interesting stuff and am now just into the spinning-wheels portion of the story.
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And, how do I know which X-book or Spidey book to get since there are 4 or 5 variations.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Yeah, this list is more to bring the casual audience back into the fold. The hardcore nerds will be there, either way, so it's them that probably need pitchforks.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

I agree with pretty much everything you wrote, and I wouldn't mind seeing it come into fruition, but there is one thing that makes me pause:

I like the idea of keeping each character and/or team into one book, and I think the idea of comics having a set beginning and an end (like a Netflix show), and possibly rotating books, would be great, but wonder if a monthly cap (for example, the 25 book limit) would hinder creativity. My worry would be publishers have to meet a certain $ in order to stay in business, and they might be willing to take less risks that could put that number in jeopardy. It could mean we'd miss out on the Ms. Marvels or other risks because well-known characters are going to be a guaranteed sale. I think that part might need a little more tooling, but over-all, I like the ideas you presented.
 
Sara_2814

Sara_2814

I love your ideas, Nick. I'd like to see more works published originally as graphic novels or as self-contained serials. And maybe that would open more characters up for new stories, like Wonder Woman: The True Amazon (which was awesome, btw!) and more Elseworlds. Even if they kept the well-known characters as monthlies, other characters could probably do well as short series or graphic novels, and maybe get enough of a fan base to get more stories or a monthly.
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

Dave said:
I, too, think these are great ideas. The industry is what has stopped me from buying comics, not the books. If I go in to a store and see a series at #300 I will not buy it! I figure that I've missed a lot of the interesting stuff and am now just into the spinning-wheels portion of the story.
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On the other hand, a #1 also doesn't cause me ot buy, because they rarely mean actual new beginning., and some series "reset" so quickly - or are abandoned before ever coming into their own- thaat it isn't worth investing in.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Bubble181 said:
On the other hand, a #1 also doesn't cause me ot buy, because they rarely mean actual new beginning., and some series "reset" so quickly - or are abandoned before ever coming into their own- thaat it isn't worth investing in.
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Or worse, it's a #1 in name only because there's a lot of baggage behind it from either events, tie-ins, or the title's own previous series.

That's why I can't get into any of DC's Rebirth titles. The Superman titles continue on stories from the previous New 52 titles, like Luthor having superpowers, issues involving New 52 Superman, and oh yes, Lois & Clark suddenly have a son. And to understand where HE came from, you're required to read issues of Convergence and their Lois & Clark mini-series. All this "fresh start" is just a load of hyperbolic bullshit.
 
Frank

Frank

Hey Canajuns, Amazon.ca seems to be having a sale on a ton of Image trades. Like, I bought Skullkickers Vols 1 and 2 for like 5 bucks each. Chew Vol 1 for 6 bucks. I haven't really dug deep since it seems really random what is and isn't cheap but it's worth a looksie.[DOUBLEPOST=1490307485,1490306960][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok, I dug deeper, apparently it's only like Chew and Skullkickers.

So, I have no idea why those are so cheap right now, but I dig Skullkickers slapstick D&Desque barbarity in a nice almost Joe Mad-esque art style so I grabbed those and have heard nothing but good things about Chew.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Hm. I'd love to get the Chew Smorgasboard editions (basically giant-sized like DC's Absolute Editions), but only Volume 2 appears to be part of this sale.

Maybe I'll wait it out and hope they release a Chew Compendium like Invincible & Walking Dead.

EDIT: Christ I'm weird with collected editions.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Linkara posted a video today that is advertised as a Power Rangers film review, starts as a parody of Jim Fucking Sterling Son's work, but is actually a really good editorial on the failures of the DC's New 52 relaunch. I'd LOVE to see him do more editorials like this.

 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

My Chapters order arrived in the mail today: four volumes for new editions of The Death & Return of Superman. This is long overdue, in my opinion. But my god, they're so pretty! Finally, each issue is separate by their respective covers (a big pet peeve for me with collected editions). And there's SO MUCH new content; some I've never read before, like Supergirl & Team Luthor and the entirety of The Legacy of Superman issue (only partly collected in the previous Funeral for a Friend collection).

The Death of Superman got me into comics, so I'm happy there are finally some good, proper collections of this storyline.

The only problem with it? Put the books together from left to right and the spines make the awesome bleeding S logo. Not a big deal, right? Except I organize my books on my shelves from left to right. That way, if I want to take a small stack with me to bed, I can take the volumes of a series in order from top to bottom. But now, I'm thinking of rearranging my books just so these four volumes will fit with the rest.

...

I'm really weird with my comics.
 
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drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Which collection is this?

I have TPB, and a few of the original issues. I'd like to see some pics.

I too get pulled in by this story. I was reading the occasional Batman and Uncanny before this event, but just randomly chosen.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'd just let the Supes books be the odd man out, rather than screw up the rest.

I still hate what the marketing around this did to comics, but the story is iconic and those are some nice-looking trades.

Someday I'll have to get the big collections of the Spider-man Clone Saga, so I can have the books that got me out of comics. Then review each issue one by one. And then burn them.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Zero Esc said:
I'd just let the Supes books be the odd man out, rather than screw up the rest.

I still hate what the marketing around this did to comics, but the story is iconic and those are some nice-looking trades.

Someday I'll have to get the big collections of the Spider-man Clone Saga, so I can have the books that got me out of comics. Then review each issue one by one. And then burn them.
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The only thing stopping me from doing them all is my Sin City books, where if placed left to right, the spines form a naked Nancy (the stripper).

And yeah, I hate The Death of Superman's legacy, but it's what got me hooked on comics for good. Rather than just the single issue of his death, my parents got me the collected edition. It's probably why I've always preferred trades since then.

And the Clone Saga? Good lord, man, are you crazy? That's like a dozen or more books. I actually started buying them at first, but I couldn't stomach re-reading them. I lived through that story and I'm ashamed to say I stayed on longer with than most. Didn't make it all to the end, but got close.
 
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