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Redhead good, ginger bad?

Jun 17, 2012#1

North_Ranger

This is something that keeps coming up when I read or listen or watch anything made State-side. There seems to be a tremendous amount of sexual fascination with redheads (particularly redheaded women). Yet at the same time, there seems to be this almost racist or superstitious fear and loathing towards gingers. Even more so than with blondes: everybody wants to shtupp a blonde like the fist of an angry god, but then there's the whole notion of blondes being stupid. With the whole redhead-ginger thing it's even more extreme. To say that someone's a redhead brings up immediate sexual connotations. Case in point: Kari Byron.

Or how about Christina Hendricks?

Who is, in fact, a natural blonde but dyes her hair red.

Or perhaps Alyson Hannigan?

Hell, what about Karen Gillan?

Hot redheads, one and all, and definitely sex symbols.

But if you would call someone a ginger... well, then we get this:

Can someone please explain this to me?

Jun 17, 2012#2

Zappit

I think South Park is almost wholly responsible for the anti-ginger sentiments that run so very rampant. At least - most of the more recent sentiments. Stupid does beget stupid.

Jun 17, 2012#3

phil

The ginger thing is really just kind of a running gag, like Canadians being super polite or something.

Jun 17, 2012#4

Vrii

[url=http://www.bullyingcanada.ca/content/239631]Interesting crossover.http://[/URL]

Jun 17, 2012#5

phil

Gusto you got some 'splainin' to do!

Jun 17, 2012#6

Tress

Also, gingers are not the same as redheads. Being considered a ginger includes freckles, more pale skin, and a more "carrot" shade of red. Many of the redheads that guys lust after have the more auburn shade of red.

Still, most people aren't serious about the whole ginger-bashing thing. It's just another stupid joke that's been worn out. And people who really mean it are doing us all a favor by singling themselves out as chronically stupid.

Jun 17, 2012#7

Tiq

If I find any of you dissing gingers, I will fight you... and that is no lie.

Jun 17, 2012#8

Gusto

phil said:
Gusto you got some 'splainin' to do!

North_Ranger said:
Or perhaps Alyson Hannigan?

...

...Sorry did someone say my name?

Jun 17, 2012#9

ElJuski

Yeah, thank goodness South Park gave the internet that stupid stereotype cuz NOW THE INTERNET LURRRVSSS TO MAKE THAT JOKE

but yeah I bet this all goes back to the age-old anti-Irish thing.

Jun 17, 2012#10

Jay

Jun 17, 2012#11

Bowielee

The anti-ginger thing has existed for quite some time in the UK. I'm assuming that it stemmed, as previously stated, from the anti-irish sentiment.

Jun 17, 2012#12

Ravenpoe

Yeah, as has been said, prejudice against gingers is done purely as a joke. It's not a serious sentiment at all.

And while we're on the subject:

Jun 17, 2012#13

LittleKagsin

Jay said:
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Which, she is also a natural blonde. But I adore her so much more as a redhead.

Jun 18, 2012#14

DarkAudit

North_Ranger, I demand you fix those broken links and stop teasing us with only the hint of redhead!

Jun 18, 2012#15

Terrik

I do admit, the Chinese girls that walk around as red heads are quite attractive to me.

Even though I know it's all dyed.

Jun 18, 2012#16

North_Ranger

Terrik said:
I do admit, the Chinese girls that walk around as red heads are quite attractive to me.

Even though I know it's all dyed.

Hey, as long as the carpet matches the drapes, it's all good.
Added at: 12:00

DarkAudit said:
North_Ranger, I demand you fix those broken links and stop teasing us with only the hint of redhead!

There... Can you see Amy Pond now?

Jun 18, 2012#17

DarkAudit

North_Ranger said:
There... Can you see Amy Pond now?

Yes, and thank you.

(I'm working at the wrong hotel. Last summer, Ms. Gillan was found wandering the halls of a NYC hotel... naked.)

Jun 18, 2012#18

BananaHands

Amy Pond! 'dem legs. :unibrow:

Jun 18, 2012#19

HowDroll

I find it very interesting how differently I'm treated by people as a redhead (currently) vs. a blonde (natural.) Gotta love dem stereotypes.

Jun 18, 2012#20

SeraRelm

Alyson Hannigan is not attractive.

There. I said it.

Jun 18, 2012#21

HowDroll

SeraRelm said:
Alyson Hannigan is not attractive.

There. I said it.

Wat.

(Also, I'm sort of shocked/elated that nobody has mentioned Felicia Day yet in this thread.)

Jun 18, 2012#22

SeraRelm

HowDroll said:
I find it very interesting how differently I'm treated by people as a redhead (currently) vs. a blonde (natural.) Gotta love dem stereotypes.

I tried blonde once, long ago, and yeah, people do treat you differently. It's saddeningly hilarious.
Added at: 10:26
Don't EVEN get me started on Horse-face Day.
Added at: 10:31

HowDroll said:
Wat.

The makeup helps a "bit" but yeah, no.

*likes girls who still have their upper lip*

Jun 18, 2012#23

BananaHands

Alyson Hannigan annoys the hell out of me. I could not find someone that constantly does that whiney/squeeky voice all the time attractive.

Jun 18, 2012#24

HowDroll

SeraRelm said:
The makeup helps a "bit" but yeah, no.

*likes girls who still have their upper lip*

Oh, come on. Most celebrities -- most women, in fact -- aren't nearly so attractive by society's standards without makeup. I'm pretty sure every single women in OP's post would drop at least 2-3 points on the hotness scale if they didn't have painted faces.

Jun 18, 2012#25

Jay

Pretty much.

Jun 18, 2012#26

SeraRelm

Talking about my standards. And makeup usually doesn't replace the missing upper lip.

Jun 18, 2012#27

HowDroll

SeraRelm said:
Talking about my standards. And makeup usually doesn't replace the missing upper lip.

Your standards are WRONG!

Jun 18, 2012#28

SeraRelm

Well I think you're hot, soooo....

Jun 18, 2012#29

HowDroll

Did I say wrong? Because I meant that you have impeccable taste in women.

Jun 18, 2012#30

bhamv3

I remember one year Alyson Hannigan placed higher than Sarah Michelle Gellar in FHM's sexiest women list. It caught a lot of people off guard.

Jun 18, 2012#31

HowDroll

bhamv3 said:
I remember one year Alyson Hannigan placed higher than Sarah Michelle Gellar in FHM's sexiest women list. It caught a lot of people off guard.

Yeah, Alyson Hannigan's hot, but Sarah Michelle Gellar is in an entirely different league. Especially in Cruel Intentions :Leyla:

Jun 18, 2012#32

ElJuski

HowDroll said:
Yeah, Alyson Hannigan's hot, but Sarah Michelle Gellar is in an entirely different league. Especially in Cruel Intentions

ohmgod Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Jun 18, 2012#33

SeraRelm

Sarah who?

My bunk, I'll be in it.

Jun 18, 2012#34

ElJuski

nah

Jun 18, 2012#35

HowDroll

ElJuski said:
nah

Jun 18, 2012#36

BananaHands

Jun 18, 2012#37

GasBandit

I learned from the little woman that ginger bashing is much more common in europe (she's from the Netherlands, and has naturally dark red hair). Maybe, as previously said, it has something to do with hating on the irish, I dunno. Here in the states, at least by my experience, it's far less commonplace. In fact, I'd never actually heard them referred to as "gingers" (as opposed to having "ginger hair") until that episode of south park.

That's not to say that they don't have stereotypes. Sexual aggressiveness. Tempers. Sunburns. Health problems. That sort of thing.

Jun 18, 2012#38

BananaHands

GasBandit said:
That's not to say that they don't have stereotypes. Sexual aggressiveness. Tempers. Sunburns. Health problems. That sort of thing.

You forgot lack of soul.

Jun 18, 2012#39

DarkAudit

BananaHands said:
You forgot lack of soul.

Jun 19, 2012#40

GasBandit

BananaHands said:
You forgot lack of soul.

Nope, that's another one I never heard of before the south park episode.

Jun 19, 2012#41

Soliloquy

SeraRelm said:
I tried blonde once, long ago, and yeah, people do treat you differently. It's saddeningly hilarious.

My ex (yes, that one... *sigh*) used to get treated that way all the time because of her hair. She would respond by making it patently obvious that she was smarter than anyone in the entire room. You could watch a guy's self confidence and feelings of adequacy drain from their faces. It was hilarious to watch.

There were reasons that I liked her.

Jun 19, 2012#42

WasabiPoptart

I always got compliments when I had my hair colored various shades of red (I've done a bright ginger, medium-dark auburn, and dark "chocolate cherry" colors). I got a lot of nice attention from guys, but I had quite a few women give me the stink-eye. As a blonde, though, I had a lot more problems. No one took me seriously which was fun for a little while, but ended up being irritating.

Jun 25, 2012#43

Bubble181

GasBandit said:
I learned from the little woman that ginger bashing is much more common in europe (she's from the Netherlands, and has naturally dark red hair). Maybe, as previously said, it has something to do with hating on the irish, I dunno. Here in the states, at least by my experience, it's far less commonplace. In fact, I'd never actually heard them referred to as "gingers" (as opposed to having "ginger hair") until that episode of south park.

That's not to say that they don't have stereotypes. Sexual aggressiveness. Tempers. Sunburns. Health problems. That sort of thing.

Odd. The Netherlands have a LOT of blondes and redheads; and while there certainly are a couple of stereotypes attached to them, redheaded Dutch girls are usually faced more with the stereotype "Dutch girls are easier/more open about sex/etc and redheads even more so! Huzzah! Wild and free!" than anything really bad. I've only heard of ginger bashing as a typically anglosaxon thing :confused:

Oh well.

Jun 25, 2012#44

Adam

Sexual aggressiveness. Check
Tempers. Check
Sunburns. Check. (And currently burn to a crisp)
Health problems, not so much.

Girls definitely have it easier being gingers than men do. There are no attractive ginger men. And I will never be the exception to that rule.

Jun 25, 2012#45

Bubble181

Adam said:
Sexual aggressiveness. Check
Tempers. Check
Sunburns. Check. (And currently burn to a crisp)
Health problems, not so much.

Girls definitely have it easier being gingers than men do. There are no attractive ginger men. And I will never be the exception to that rule.

For one, going by your gifs, I think you look good. Secondly, there's always

Jun 25, 2012#46

Adam

Oh, I have a stand-in do the gifs for me while I direct.

Secondly, my preference is not to have women bite my head off, break off my arms and legs and then gnaw at my stomach.

Jun 25, 2012#47

Bubble181

Adam said:
Oh, I have a stand-in do the gifs for me while I direct.

Secondly, my preference is not to have women bite my head off, break off my arms and legs and then gnaw at my stomach.

Well, there goes the threesome with you and Shego I guess....*bars line #7 on his things-to-do-before-I-die list*

Jun 25, 2012#48

makare

There are also a disproportionate number of redhaired male killers on police dramas and yes, lifetime movies. I wouldn't know that last part if it wasn't for my stupid family. Maybe redheads need an anti-defamation league. If there isn't one already.

Jun 25, 2012#49

Adam

makare said:
There are also a disproportionate number of redhaired male killers on police dramas and yes, lifetime movies. I wouldn't know that last part if it wasn't for my stupid family. Maybe redheads need an anti-defamation league. If there isn't one already.

Jun 25, 2012#50

HowDroll

Adam said:
There are no attractive ginger men. And I will never be the exception to that rule.

False.

All quite bangable.

Jun 25, 2012#51

Adam

HowDroll said:
False.

All quite bangable.

Not sure if serious!

Anyways, taste is subjective of course. Unfortunately famous ginger men are more of the Conan O'brien and Carrot Top variety than otherwise.

Jun 25, 2012#52

Bumble the Boy Wonder

I dont think the weasley twins are true redheads, but your argument still stands. ...wait thats not what i meant

Jun 25, 2012#53

HowDroll

Adam said:
Not sure if serious!

Anyways, taste is subjective of course. Unfortunately famous ginger men are more of the Conan O'brien and Carrot Top variety than otherwise.

Totally serious, and I know a lot of women who feel the same way. Especially if they come as a package deal :unibrow:

Taste is totally subjective, but to be fair, most "redhead women" -- myself and most of the women in the OP included -- aren't natural gingers. Ginger men don't have that advantage.

Jun 25, 2012#54

Adam

HowDroll said:
Totally serious, and I know a lot of women who feel the same way. Especially if they come as a package deal

Taste is totally subjective, but to be fair, most "redhead women" -- myself and most of the women in the OP included -- aren't natural gingers. Ginger men don't have that advantage.

That's why I've started shaving my head. Now I look more blonde than red (as long as I keep the beard trimmed down). Unfortunately, summers are horrible because there's pasty white skin, and then there's translucent Adam skin.

Jun 25, 2012#55

Necronic

That last dude is he the one from Pillars of the Earth and The Black Death?

Because he was incredible (and incredibly creepy) in The Black Death.

Ed: Also redheads/gingers are hot. The girls that is. Maybe the guys too (because they always seem to have a girls haircut).

And WHERE"S ERIC STOLTZ

Jun 25, 2012#56

Adam

Necronic said:
Ed: Also redheads/gingers are hot. The girls that is. Maybe the guys too (because they always seem to have a girls haircut).

I need Bumble the Boy Wonder to draw me in his meme-crying fashion. Cuz this just hurts

Jun 25, 2012#57

GasBandit

Adam said:
Sexual aggressiveness. Check
Tempers. Check
Sunburns. Check. (And currently burn to a crisp)
Health problems, not so much.

You're not out of the woods yet.

Jun 25, 2012#58

Necronic

Adam said:
I need Bumble to draw me in his meme-crying fashion. Cuz this just hurts

The truth is like a ray of light.

It burns.

Jun 25, 2012#59

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Adam said:
I need Bumble the Boy Wonder to draw me in his meme-crying fashion. Cuz this just hurts

Jun 25, 2012#60

Ravenpoe

Adam said:
Not sure if serious!

Anyways, taste is subjective of course. Unfortunately famous ginger men are more of the Conan O'brien and Carrot Top variety than otherwise.

Ok, Carrot Top is just gross... like if Ronald McDonald got hit with gamma radiation and unleashed the uncontrollable rage monster within. But what woman wouldn't want to bang Conan O'Brien?

Jun 25, 2012#61

SeraRelm

Jun 25, 2012#62

Ravenpoe

SeraRelm said:
me

Touche'

Jun 25, 2012#63

makare

Is Conan a sex symbol? I don't see it.

Jun 26, 2012#64

North_Ranger

makare said:
Is Conan a sex symbol? I don't see it.

Well, he's tall... Maybe it's a proportional thing?

Jun 26, 2012#65

Bubble181

Some people think he's funny. Humor's sexy. So he's probably about as sexy as Beavis and Butthead.

Jun 26, 2012#66

Necronic

Carrot Top looks like the dude Rocky from Mask, learning how to win friends with humor all sitting around waiting for Cher's new boyfriend to come and fill the empty hole where his father should be

Jun 26, 2012#67

SeraRelm

And dating a blind paleontologist.

Jun 26, 2012#68

bhamv3

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Jun 26, 2012#69

Dei

I think attractiveness as a male redhead really relates to shade of color and such as well. My brother and I are German redheads, we don't have the "OH GOD IT'S THE SUN" Irish skin, and our hair is red bordering on brown instead of being orange. I also married an Irish redhead though, who, while having the same shade of red as me, burns just by thinking about stepping outside. Our son has the same hair color as me, and the same skin tone, whereas my daughter has the really pretty shade of red that borders almost on strawberry blonde, but sadly got daddy's skin. But she can get away with it. Anyways my point was, my brother, my son, and my husband certainly don't look horrifying, but they are redheads that aren't cursed with being orange heads either.

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