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Remembering JCM

#1

Gruebeard

Gruebeard

No. Not a Brazelton! (As far as I know)

I was just realizing this evening that every time I listen to a certain Ugly Kid Joe song, I am reminded of JCM. For a reason. No, I'm not going to tell you what song and what reason. I'm curious if anybody else can make the same stupid leap that my mind does.


I'm also curious what everybody else who remembers JCM remembers about him. There's so much!


#2

Bubble181

Bubble181

Still see his posts regularly on FB. Still teaching in Brazil, and seems happy with Luiza and kids.


#3

PatrThom

PatrThom

I feel bad that we haven't kept track of him, but I also feel bad about people I haven't spoken to in 20 years.

--Patrick


#4

Dave

Dave

We're facebook friends. He's doing well for himself.

There's a lot of people I miss that used to be around.

There's even a couple that I really, really, REALLY want to post about but it's not my place to do so. Some days I wish I had no morals and didn't care if I hurt people's feelings because god DAMN do I want to post this stuff!


#5

PatrThom

PatrThom

There's even a couple that I really, really, REALLY want to post about but it's not my place to do so. Some days I wish I had no morals and didn't care if I hurt people's feelings because god DAMN do I want to post this stuff!
I completely understand this temptation.

--Patrick


#6

Bubble181

Bubble181

Anyone heard anything from Vytamindi lately?


#7

Cajungal

Cajungal

She's my friend on Facebook. She's doing very well. Still teaching just hours away from me.


#8

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I keep hoping we get more returns or new blood in here sometimes. I think about how much people like @Yoshimickster or @LittleKagsin freshened up the place by joining in.

I've actually asked some friends to join, but they've always politely declined. :(


#9

Dave

Dave

I long ago gave up trying to shoehorn ways of getting people to come in. I figure having quality people like Yoshi and Kags is much better than a larger influx of people who wouldn't be good fits.


#10

Cajungal

Cajungal

I've invited the fella several times, but I think he feels it's important that this stays "my place," and I get that.


#11

blotsfan

blotsfan

I don't like new people. Change scares me


#12

Dave

Dave

I don't like new people. Change scares me
That explains your hairstyle.


#13

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

I'm also curious what everybody else who remembers JCM remembers about him. There's so much!
Remember him? We are him. WE ARE ALL HIM!!


#14

GasBandit

GasBandit

Every once in a while I bump into a lapsed Halforumite somewhere else, and badger them into making an appearance here, but it doesn't seem to stick. *cough*SeraRelm*cough*


#15

Dei

Dei

I've invited the fella several times, but I think he feels it's important that this stays "my place," and I get that.
My husband lurks on the political forum, but that's it.


#16

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

While I remember JCM very fondly, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that a good 30% of those memories are sort like:

JCM said:
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#17

GasBandit

GasBandit

While I remember JCM very fondly, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that a good 30% of those memories are sort like:



#18

Denbrought

Denbrought

I've told my SO she should join and post her (and friends') cosplay hijinks, but I think she's too young for the forum format. Maybe if we were a Twapchagram.


#19

GasBandit

GasBandit

I've told my SO she should join and post her (and friends') cosplay hijinks, but I think she's too young for the forum format. Maybe if we were a Twapchagram.
That's really the rub of the matter. The internet forum is going the way of the chat room. The short attention span/instant gratification format of the 3rd gen social media is taking over, and now even Facebook is starting to look passe.


#20

Celt Z

Celt Z

I've invited the fella several times, but I think he feels it's important that this stays "my place," and I get that.
This is why Mr. Z only appeared recently and doesn't really post/check up with any kind of regularity.


#21

GasBandit

GasBandit

Pauline used to lurk from time to time, but it only ever started arguments.


#22

Dei

Dei

Meanwhile we have whole conversations about dicks in vent and my husband just sits behind me and rolls his eyes.


#23

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Meanwhile we have whole conversations about dicks in vent and my husband just sits behind me and rolls his eyes.
I would've been there if it was about butts.



#24

GasBandit

GasBandit

Meanwhile we have whole conversations about dicks in vent and my husband just sits behind me and rolls his eyes.
Seeing as he's the lone sober guy in a room full of drunks, I can imagine he's rolling his eyes a lot.


#25

Dei

Dei

Seeing as he's the lone sober guy in a room full of drunks, I can imagine he's rolling his eyes a lot.
He most definitely is.


#26

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Seeing as he's the lone sober guy in a room full of drunks, I can imagine he's rolling his eyes a lot.
That is my weekend. Every weekend. Forever.


#27

PatrThom

PatrThom

I would've been there if it was about butts.

Oh, Ultracar. Will you ever understand Humanity?

--Patrick


#28

Celt Z

Celt Z

Oh, Ultracar. Will you ever understand Humanity?

--Patrick
Possibly, but this would require adding Sir Mix-a-lot to her programming.


#29

JCM

JCM

Kinda left when user (Chaz I think?) started verbally abusing and attacking my wife after she signed up, specially over pms.

Still alive, three kids, great job, working with protest groups and fighting off the old leftist corrupt government in my country and trying to stop it from going down the Venezuela path of economic ruin (so far, successfully, we got the president impeached and economy is almost back to normal, but their militancy started invading schools, weird shit, really), but also trying to stop us from sliding into the authoritarian evangelical right, represented by a guy called Bolsonaro who comes from the Marine Le Pen/Norbert Hofer/Nigel Farage school of politics.

Best of luck with Trump guys, for the first time I actually pray that I have been wrong all this time.


#30

bhamv3

bhamv3

JCM!!!!!

Welcome back!

Stay! :D:D:D:D:D


#31

Krisken

Krisken

Hello sir, good to see you are still fighting the good fight.


#32

GasBandit

GasBandit

Kinda left when user (Chaz I think?) started verbally abusing and attacking my wife after she signed up, specially over pms.

Still alive, three kids, great job, working with protest groups and fighting off the old leftist corrupt government in my country and trying to stop it from going down the Venezuela path of economic ruin (so far, successfully, we got the president impeached and economy is almost back to normal, but their militancy started invading schools, weird shit, really), but also trying to stop us from sliding into the authoritarian evangelical right, represented by a guy called Bolsonaro who comes from the Marine Le Pen/Norbert Hofer/Nigel Farage school of politics.

Best of luck with Trump guys, for the first time I actually pray that I have been wrong all this time.
Wow. It's been forever. So much has happened in your absence.


#33

Dave

Dave

I had no idea he did that. I'd be willing to bet he'd be mortified at his past actions now. We've all grown a bit.

And it's good to see you, man. I keep in touch on Facebook, but it's not the same.


#34

PatrThom

PatrThom

Hey there, @JCM! Now that you're on IPv6, how many IP addresses are you hiding behind now?

--Patrick


#35

Eriol

Eriol

Fascinating to see both this topic (I missed it originally) and the bump for a great reason!

@JCM I'm just wondering how did you find the thread itself? Why you post is up to you, but that one would have been buried if from August.


#36

Mathias

Mathias

That's really the rub of the matter. The internet forum is going the way of the chat room. The short attention span/instant gratification format of the 3rd gen social media is taking over, and now even Facebook is starting to look passe.

Facebook is pretty much for 30 yo + anymore. The worst part is it's become the new Forwards from Grandma repository.


#37

blotsfan

blotsfan

That's really the rub of the matter. The internet forum is going the way of the chat room. The short attention span/instant gratification format of the 3rd gen social media is taking over, and now even Facebook is starting to look passe.
TL;DR


#38

Mathias

Mathias

Kinda left when user (Chaz I think?) started verbally abusing and attacking my wife after she signed up, specially over pms.

Still alive, three kids, great job, working with protest groups and fighting off the old leftist corrupt government in my country and trying to stop it from going down the Venezuela path of economic ruin (so far, successfully, we got the president impeached and economy is almost back to normal, but their militancy started invading schools, weird shit, really), but also trying to stop us from sliding into the authoritarian evangelical right, represented by a guy called Bolsonaro who comes from the Marine Le Pen/Norbert Hofer/Nigel Farage school of politics.

Best of luck with Trump guys, for the first time I actually pray that I have been wrong all this time.

uh wtf are you talking about? I never harassed your wife let alone PM her (don't even know who she is on the forum)...

As usual you're wrong. Good too see ya though, ya ol' bastard.


#39

Dave

Dave

Yeah, you were never the PM insults guy. You were more the "insult you to your face" guy. :)


#40

Jay

Jay

Yeah, you were never the PM insults guy. You were more the "insult you to your face" guy. :)
Meh


#41

Dave

Dave

That I know of. Unless I'm reading the "meh" wrong.


#42

JCM

JCM

As usual you're wrong. Good too see ya though, ya ol' bastard.
It comes with the age then, but the extra time did help me get some shit together, travel a bit and all and raise my kids. My apologies.

Answering the other guy, I was actually trying to remember my handle for an old account of a wiki page, saw this thread, jumped straight to the funny pictures thread, old habits die hard and all and ended up registering.


#43

Mathias

Mathias

It comes with the age then, but the extra time did help me get some shit together, travel a bit and all and raise my kids. My apologies.

Answering the other guy, I was actually trying to remember my handle for an old account of a wiki page, saw this thread, jumped straight to the funny pictures thread, old habits die hard and all and ended up registering.

That's right! Don't you besmirch the good name of Chazwozel! That's my job![DOUBLEPOST=1479762400,1479762317][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yeah, you were never the PM insults guy. You were more the "insult you to your face" guy. :)

I've got 32 posts in my inbox that span from 2011 - 2016. I barely PM anyone.


#44

JCM

JCM

Mathias?


#45

Dave

Dave

That's Chaz.[DOUBLEPOST=1479782502,1479782469][/DOUBLEPOST]He calmed down and changed his name. As I said - we've all grown.


#46

GasBandit

GasBandit

New name for a new attitude. But sometimes the Chaz of old seeps through.

Me... I kept the name, changed the avatar... went through some stuff... I'm a little different now myself.


#47

Eriol

Eriol

went through some stuff...
Methinks that's an understatement Gas. You personally I mean.


#48

GasBandit

GasBandit

Methinks that's an understatement Gas. You personally I mean.
Yeah, but I feel like I bring it up too much. If JCM wants the full story he can go read my blog entries from the last 3 years.


#49

PatrThom

PatrThom

Life moves on.
So do other things.

--Patrick


#50

Mathias

Mathias

New name for a new attitude. But sometimes the Chaz of old seeps through.

Me... I kept the name, changed the avatar... went through some stuff... I'm a little different now myself.
It kind of grinds my gears when people go off acting like I (as Chazwozel) was some kind of forum devil. And I really haven't calmed down so much as I've sort of moved on past actually needing this place as an outlet. The majority of "beef" - if you sit down for like 15 minutes and review posts - is that often times people misconstrued sarcastic ribbing as actual insults. Do I think some of the old feuds went too far? Absolutely. But in the end, most of it was driven more by other posters' perceived image of this big, bad Chazwozel rather than actually instigating anything myself. It's a persona that I unfortunately adopted since foul mouthing Kurtz and a select few during the PvP forum days that followed me here. That's exactly why the name change - to help dissociate from that. I do keep the Chazwozel Extraordinaire moniker to remind those that would remember that I can still be abrasive if provoked. I've also apologized in a previous post for any and all slights that may have been taken, so as far as I'm concerned, it's all water under the bridge.



Fuckers.[DOUBLEPOST=1479828350,1479828239][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yeah, but I feel like I bring it up too much. If JCM wants the full story he can go read my blog entries from the last 3 years.

Nah. If that's your way of coping, man. Let it out.





[DOUBLEPOST=1479828533][/DOUBLEPOST] Aside: Does JCM know that NorthRanger died?


#51

Denbrought

Denbrought

Aside: Does JCM know that NorthRanger died?
Yes, see here.


#52

JCM

JCM

Still weird, NorthRanger was always the guy with the fun stories, almost a pastiche of the Finn stereotype, and I benefited often from the stuff he recommended. Fuck cancer.


#53

GasBandit

GasBandit

Fuck cancer.
Hear hear.


#54

jwhouk

jwhouk

Hear hear.
Amen to that.



Sent from my Nextbook on Tapatalk


#55

Mathias

Mathias

Cancer certainly sucks donkey dick, but I must say, as someone that's deeply familiar with DNA replication/repair, cellular growth, biochemistry, and genomics, to me it's a wonder all this shit works the way it does with as much accuracy as it does at all.

You know how astronomers oftentimes get a sense of humbleness when they get a glimpse of how insignificant the Earth is relative to... everything else? I get that sense when I come to terms that none of this - none of the cells in your body - have sentience, and they just do what they do because we're just walking meat sacks of water that provide a nice environment to allow long ass (often redundant) nucleic acid chains to manufacture soluble (and insoluble) proteins that bump into each other, interact, and change shapes to make up this crazy thing we call life.

Cancer is such a shitty byproduct of such an amazing thing.


#56

GasBandit

GasBandit

Cancer certainly sucks donkey dick, but I must say, as someone that's deeply familiar with DNA replication/repair, cellular growth, biochemistry, and genomics, to me it's a wonder all this shit works the way it does with as much accuracy as it does at all.

You know how astronomers oftentimes get a sense of humbleness when they get a glimpse of how insignificant the Earth is relative to... everything else? I get that sense when I come to terms that none of this - none of the cells in your body - have sentience, and they just do what they do because we're just walking meat sacks of water that provide a nice environment to allow long ass (often redundant) nucleic acid chains to manufacture soluble (and insoluble) proteins that bump into each other, interact, and change shapes to make up this crazy thing we call life.

Cancer is such a shitty byproduct of such an amazing thing.
I suppose that's one perspective. I suspect you'll forgive me if I find it cold comfort, however.


#57

PatrThom

PatrThom

Cancer is such a shitty byproduct of such an amazing thing.
Completely expected what with the whole mutate/survive/evolve thing, though.
Henrietta Lax unintentionally became one of the most resilient organisms on this planet, right after tardigrades.

--Patrick


#58

JCM

JCM

It may end up being a curse, as we live longer and beat every disease under the sun, or even reach immortality, cancer will still be there to take us out, the myth of Tithonus playing out in real life.


#59

GasBandit

GasBandit

It may end up being a curse, as we live longer and beat every disease under the sun, or even reach immortality, cancer will still be there to take us out, the myth of Tithonus playing out in real life.
The people we're talking about, however, did not "live longer." Cancer took North Ranger at 30, and left me a widower at 34.


#60

strawman

strawman

It may end up being a curse, as we live longer and beat every disease under the sun, or even reach immortality, cancer will still be there to take us out, the myth of Tithonus playing out in real life.
CRISPR, a gene editing technique, is being used on a person for the first time, and the target is their aggressive lung cancer.

http://www.usnews.com/news/national...rispr-cas9-used-in-a-human-for-the-first-time

I suspect that ultimately most common cancers will be treatable, it seems to be just a matter of time, something cancer patients have too little of.

My hope is that my grandchildren will think of cancer the way I think of polio - a solved problem that can only be brought back through human stupidity and/or ignorance.


#61

JCM

JCM

The people we're talking about, however, did not "live longer." Cancer took North Ranger at 30, and left me a widower at 34.
Damn, after you posted that I had to go and read your blog.

You have my deepest condolences Gas, and my eternal admiration for overcoming this sad chapter, heck I do not know if I could ever come back like you did, should the same happen to me.


#62

GasBandit

GasBandit

Damn, after you posted that I had to go and read your blog.

You have my deepest condolences Gas, and my eternal admiration for overcoming this sad chapter, heck I do not know if I could ever come back like you did, should the same happen to me.
Thanks. I'm not honestly sure all of me did come back.


#63

Mathias

Mathias

I suppose that's one perspective. I suspect you'll forgive me if I find it cold comfort, however.
Oh absolutely. Walking meat bags aside, that perspective does nothing for the fact that all those processes amount to people we love and care about. My warmest condolences to offer to you would be more of a zen philosophy that your wife lives on through you in your memories of her, and when it's your turn that consciousness and memories will combine and absorb back into themselves as part of the universe again. One way or another, my friend, you'll see your wife again.


#64

GasBandit

GasBandit

Oh absolutely. Walking meat bags aside, that perspective does nothing for the fact that all those processes amount to people we love and care about. My warmest condolences to offer to you would be more of a zen philosophy that your wife lives on through you in your memories of her, and when it's your turn that consciousness and memories will combine and absorb back into themselves as part of the universe again. One way or another, my friend, you'll see your wife again.
I kinda hope so. I owe her SUCH a chewing out.


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