Rules/Infractions Speak now or forever hold your peace.

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ElJuski

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Actually, what's lame is you leaving and pretending to be your neighbor before crawling back here and becoming an asshole again.

You are not the alpha male jackass you pretend to be. You're a fuckhead that's cloying to this forum because you need us, and yet you still act like a jackass.

I have no more sympathy for you and your pretend RAWR demeanor.
 
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Chazwozel

Actually, what's lame is you leaving and pretending to be your neighbor before crawling back here and becoming an asshole again.

You are not the alpha male jackass you pretend to be. You're a fuckhead that's cloying to this forum because you need us, and yet you still act like a jackass.

I have no more sympathy for you and your pretend RAWR demeanor.
I'm not pretending to be Tim.

Ah and the ol' loop argument. "Fuck you guys, I don't need you. I'll leave to prove my point." No, I'm not going to fall for that. I like coming here, but as far as needing you. Don't be so egotistical.

All I'm doing is sticking up for Ross because he really didn't do anything all that bad.
 

fade

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I'm going to weigh in on the whole fag thing seeing as I'm probably the most vocal FAG in the group.

I HATE the fact that it's become common lexicon among young people. I'll tell you right now, it IS hurtful. I hate to use the whole "you'll never understand because you've never been in that position" argument, but in my case it's true. I came out when I was pretty young, and had to deal with being called a fag on a regular basis and it almost drove me to suicide when I was younger. Luckily I'm a stronger person than they were assholes.

To Shego, If that image said Do it DYKE, do you think you'd have the same response to it?

The usage of the word hasn't changed. calling people ******s is still inherently tied to homophobia. It's calling people gay, and saying that because they are implied as being gay they are stupid, weak willed, and effeminate.

You can use all the justifications that you want, but you are being a racist when using the Nword and a homophobe when using the word Fag. Just because you're able to rationalize it doesn't make it right.
I honestly don't think people are trying to rationalize it. I feel very confident in saying that I don't think that most people who use it as an insult are making the direct implication that gay people are stupid and weak-willed. They're bypassing that and using as a synonym for stupid and weak-willed, and their minds never go to homosexuality. On the other hand, I know that's hurtful to other people, which is the primary reason it shouldn't be used.

It's also unfair to compare it to the n-word, precisely because the n-word has NOT undergone the same metamorphosis of meaning. When people use that word, there's not dissociation from black people. From the perspectives of the offended groups, there's no difference, but from the perspective of the offending groups, there's a world of difference.

Keep in mind I in no way condone the usage of either world. I think it's insensitive to use either. In the end, the offended group's voice should carry more weight.
 

Shannow

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Holy shit, this thread is great. And here I was worried it would just be a boring "these are the rules!" thread, and everyones assholishness made it turn out awesome. Great job, guys! :popcorn:
 
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Chazwozel

Holy shit, this thread is great. And here I was worried it would just be a boring "these are the rules!" thread, and everyones assholishness made it turn out awesome. Great job, guys! :popcorn:
I like how Juski's and Kissengers periods sync up together.
 
Chaz, you are the cancer that is killing halforums.
That's it? Lame.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps if it was gay cancer?[/QUOTE]

:facepalm:

I laughed.

To Bowiele, I'm sorry. You're right. I hadn't put it in that context in my thoughts.

To Chaz, what's going on man? Really? This is exactly how you were acting before you left, we didn't want you to leave because it felt more like lashing out than intended emotion. I don't want to see a repeat, you were doing pretty damn well for a while there. :(
 

ElJuski

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Actually, what's lame is you leaving and pretending to be your neighbor before crawling back here and becoming an asshole again.

You are not the alpha male jackass you pretend to be. You're a fuckhead that's cloying to this forum because you need us, and yet you still act like a jackass.

I have no more sympathy for you and your pretend RAWR demeanor.
I'm not pretending to be Tim.

Ah and the ol' loop argument. "Fuck you guys, I don't need you. I'll leave to prove my point." No, I'm not going to fall for that. I like coming here, but as far as needing you. Don't be so egotistical.

All I'm doing is sticking up for Ross because he really didn't do anything all that bad.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, okay. Whatever champ.
 
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Chazwozel

Chaz, you are the cancer that is killing halforums.
That's it? Lame.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps if it was gay cancer?[/QUOTE]


Well HIV is a lentivirus which can cause cancer.

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To Chaz, what's going on man? Really? This is exactly how you were acting before you left, we didn't want you to leave because it felt more like lashing out than intended emotion. I don't want to see a repeat, you were doing pretty damn well for a while there. :(
I'm not leaving.
 
Remember like 2 days ago when I said that the "Discussing Negativity Thread" was incredibly ironic?

THIS IS WHY.
 

ElJuski

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So, where is Tim anyway? He mysteriously disappeared about the time you started posting again. With the same IP address. By the by.
 
I honestly don't think people are trying to rationalize it. I feel very confident in saying that I don't think that most people who use it as an insult are making the direct implication that gay people are stupid and weak-willed. They're bypassing that and using as a synonym for stupid and weak-willed, and their minds never go to homosexuality. On the other hand, I know that's hurtful to other people, which is the primary reason it shouldn't be used.

It's also unfair to compare it to the n-word, precisely because the n-word has NOT undergone the same metamorphosis of meaning. When people use that word, there's not dissociation from black people. From the perspectives of the offended groups, there's no difference, but from the perspective of the offending groups, there's a world of difference.

Keep in mind I in no way condone the usage of either world. I think it's insensitive to use either. In the end, the offended group's voice should carry more weight.
Um, this is pretty much what I think, but worded more understandably.
 

Cajungal

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Thank you to those who have stayed on topic. To the others--and you know who you are--either be quiet or think of something helpful/constructive to say. If you've said your piece and it hasn't been addressed... I'm sure Dave will look at this when he gets back.
 
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Chazwozel

So, where is Tim anyway? He mysteriously disappeared about the time you started posting again. With the same IP address. By the by.
He posted like a day ago. And we share a router and he does clinic at the same hospital I'm working at... Anything else you want to know?
 
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makare

how about the good men do something that actually helps for a change instead of engaging in futile arguments and flames?


On a side note...
mmmm hugh laurie.
 
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’
Calling a forum troll "evil" is the hight of hyperbole, Charlie. Chazwozel is no more evil than Dave is God.

For the record, I do agree with the "there's just no reason to use those particular words" crowd. I just think baiting the forum troll into making an immature ass of himself isn't really productive.
 

Dave

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Holy fucking shit, people!

Damned IT coming in on the middle of this all. Weren't we all talking about this like Human beings?

The f-word is now blocked out because people can't be adults about it. Infractions were meted out and I'm locking this thread.

I really thought better of some of you.

:lock:
 
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