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doomdragon6
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Man I dono now. I would like to give Julie a chance...
I guess I'll go with the flow. Whoever. Right now I guess I'm leaning towards Julie since I haven't seen her style and would like to.
Agh, but thinking about how we're only gonna have Shawn's game once every 2 weeks is killin' me.
Aggggggh, I dunno. *goes to find a coin to flip* Okay, let's seeee.. Heads = Jay, Tails = Julie.
...... Tails! I vote for Julie.
Not sure if I'm going to want to use my Golem character or not. I guess I'll see what other people are making.
Man I dono now. I would like to give Julie a chance...
I guess I'll go with the flow. Whoever. Right now I guess I'm leaning towards Julie since I haven't seen her style and would like to.
Agh, but thinking about how we're only gonna have Shawn's game once every 2 weeks is killin' me.
Aggggggh, I dunno. *goes to find a coin to flip* Okay, let's seeee.. Heads = Jay, Tails = Julie.
...... Tails! I vote for Julie.
Not sure if I'm going to want to use my Golem character or not. I guess I'll see what other people are making.
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Deschain
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Jay, would you object if I would like to join your game?
Jay, would you object if I would like to join your game?
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Well, I don't have any issues as long as you're consistently able to attend and are on-time. :sneaky:
In regards to Julie's game (and I'm
at the possibility on how my post may be taken by some) I'm simply not overly optimistic about it. Sorry. From what I read, I honestly felt it won't be the D&D I'd crave to play and knowing her playing style, I'm pretty sure of that original feeling. Sure, promises can be made to the contrary but long-term a DM won't cater to a play style that they don't themselves enjoy playing. I don't think I'd enjoy the heavy emphasis on roleplaying and the disregard to standard combat mechanics as stated without something tacked onto it.
Furthermore to be absolutely frank, I've been trying to get my game going for months and an ideal time Thursday night slot where everyone can attend is highly coveted. To have people randomly flipping coins, go back on their verbal comments and to repeatedly cater to her needs and wants is pretty close to a back-handed slap in the face to me. Did I deserve this somehow? I'm perfectly willing to take over Shawn's game part-time or full-time depending on how he'd like to proceed. To kinda shift your weight from one leg to another wishing it wasn't happening won't make it go away, Shawn is burnt out of DMing and simply wants to play the game.
Well, I don't have any issues as long as you're consistently able to attend and are on-time. :sneaky:
In regards to Julie's game (and I'm
at the possibility on how my post may be taken by some) I'm simply not overly optimistic about it. Sorry. From what I read, I honestly felt it won't be the D&D I'd crave to play and knowing her playing style, I'm pretty sure of that original feeling. Sure, promises can be made to the contrary but long-term a DM won't cater to a play style that they don't themselves enjoy playing. I don't think I'd enjoy the heavy emphasis on roleplaying and the disregard to standard combat mechanics as stated without something tacked onto it.Furthermore to be absolutely frank, I've been trying to get my game going for months and an ideal time Thursday night slot where everyone can attend is highly coveted. To have people randomly flipping coins, go back on their verbal comments and to repeatedly cater to her needs and wants is pretty close to a back-handed slap in the face to me. Did I deserve this somehow? I'm perfectly willing to take over Shawn's game part-time or full-time depending on how he'd like to proceed. To kinda shift your weight from one leg to another wishing it wasn't happening won't make it go away, Shawn is burnt out of DMing and simply wants to play the game.
doomdragon6
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I flipped a coin because I can't decide at all. To be fair, you have been asking to DM for longer. Sort of a "first come first served" thing, but I can't really vote here.
We need everyone to chime in and vote, or settle this some other way. I honestly cannot lean one way or the other.
I flipped a coin because I can't decide at all. To be fair, you have been asking to DM for longer. Sort of a "first come first served" thing, but I can't really vote here.
We need everyone to chime in and vote, or settle this some other way. I honestly cannot lean one way or the other.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Most people are trying to stay neutral except the people wanting to DM, and probably anything done is going to be unfair to someone. Currently it's being unfair to all those involved in the game, having to choose between two people. I'm trying to stay in the middle, which is difficult from my relationship with Julie.
I will say, she does tend to get her way a bit. It's a result of my failure to please her in any satisfying way here in the real world. I do see it in the game though.
I don't think anyone should take this situation personally. I observe both Jay and Julie to be people who take things personally when they shouldn't, and I'm sure each will tell me that's not true
one louder than the other. Must be that "J" at the front of the names. In any case, I think that needs to be restrained so there's no ill will afterward.
I don't know if voting will be the best way, because either way, someone is going to feel burned. It's possible this will need to come down to Julie and Jay talking about it, but I also recall how well that kind of thing has gone before. I don't think they like each other's DMing styles, from what little sample or description they've had.
I am confused about one thing though, and that's the other D&D thread: http://www.halforums.com/forum/showthread.php?10898-DnD. I don't think I was the only one under the impression that you were already DMing a game somewhere sometime, Jay, since it sounded like you had all the people you needed via PM and were just waiting until after the holidays to get going.
Most people are trying to stay neutral except the people wanting to DM, and probably anything done is going to be unfair to someone. Currently it's being unfair to all those involved in the game, having to choose between two people. I'm trying to stay in the middle, which is difficult from my relationship with Julie.
I will say, she does tend to get her way a bit. It's a result of my failure to please her in any satisfying way here in the real world. I do see it in the game though.
I don't think anyone should take this situation personally. I observe both Jay and Julie to be people who take things personally when they shouldn't, and I'm sure each will tell me that's not true
one louder than the other. Must be that "J" at the front of the names. In any case, I think that needs to be restrained so there's no ill will afterward.I don't know if voting will be the best way, because either way, someone is going to feel burned. It's possible this will need to come down to Julie and Jay talking about it, but I also recall how well that kind of thing has gone before. I don't think they like each other's DMing styles, from what little sample or description they've had.
I am confused about one thing though, and that's the other D&D thread: http://www.halforums.com/forum/showthread.php?10898-DnD. I don't think I was the only one under the impression that you were already DMing a game somewhere sometime, Jay, since it sounded like you had all the people you needed via PM and were just waiting until after the holidays to get going.
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Deschain
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It seems that the people he needed were of this forum.
It seems that the people he needed were of this forum.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Daryl makes a pretty good point in that it's not really something we can vote on. It's really Julie and Jay that need to decide who wants to DM. Hell it's almost coming down to the point where we should let both DM and alternate games every three weeks. But I think Doom would have a mental breakdown if we did it that way.
Daryl makes a pretty good point in that it's not really something we can vote on. It's really Julie and Jay that need to decide who wants to DM. Hell it's almost coming down to the point where we should let both DM and alternate games every three weeks. But I think Doom would have a mental breakdown if we did it that way.
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I think every three weeks would turn messy, and that's really in the interest of preserving the time slot, however, I'm willing to accept that if it really gives Doom a mental breakdown.
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Deschain
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I'd like to continue playing a Paladin since I haven't really gotten much into the character. I'd just pretend it was another part of his past.
I'd like to continue playing a Paladin since I haven't really gotten much into the character. I'd just pretend it was another part of his past.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
I will tell you right now: If it comes to play three tri-weekly games, I will only play in Shawn's. I already play or run two other bi-weekly games on Tuesday nights and I can't handle all of it.
I think every three weeks would turn messy, and that's really in the interest of preserving the time slot, however, I'm willing to accept that if it really gives Doom a mental breakdown.[/QUOTE]
I will tell you right now: If it comes to play three tri-weekly games, I will only play in Shawn's. I already play or run two other bi-weekly games on Tuesday nights and I can't handle all of it.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
I'll speak with Jay, no problem.
Add me on steam then we can find a time to talk on vent.
I'll speak with Jay, no problem.
Add me on steam then we can find a time to talk on vent.Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
It's a planned bi-weekly game, every Wednesday, that has had its share of problems starting problem due to RL commitments from the players that will probably be pushed back another week or scrapped altogether. I'm using my new Anauroch campaign for that one. Realistically, I'm a sad panda in regards to the prospects on getting a regular game there.
doomdragon6
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Yeah, I'm already iffy at 2 games in the same time slot. 3 would kill it-- like, all the games would die very soon.
Guess Julie and Jay just need to talk it out. Not sure what "it" is, but whatevs.
We could potentially let Julie and Jay DM 1 session and vote from there. But that would probably turn it even more personal and we lose valuable Shawn-game time. =P
*sits back and watches*
Yeah, I'm already iffy at 2 games in the same time slot. 3 would kill it-- like, all the games would die very soon.
Guess Julie and Jay just need to talk it out. Not sure what "it" is, but whatevs.
We could potentially let Julie and Jay DM 1 session and vote from there. But that would probably turn it even more personal and we lose valuable Shawn-game time. =P
*sits back and watches*
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
They just need to discuss it and hopefully reach a decision civilly over what's what, who will do it, et cetera. No voting is going to do well.
They just need to discuss it and hopefully reach a decision civilly over what's what, who will do it, et cetera. No voting is going to do well.
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Deschain
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Good news, I've managed to get Palestine to accept Israeli settlements.
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Well, my golem-esque character is ready, whoever DMs.
Anyone else made a character yet? I wanna see what I have to work with.
Also, let's get those DM discussions rolling.
Well, my golem-esque character is ready, whoever DMs.
Anyone else made a character yet? I wanna see what I have to work with.
Also, let's get those DM discussions rolling.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Well, hold on, ya'll. If I were to start a weekly game on a different night and let Jay have the bi-weekly Thursday slot, would anyone such as Shawn, Doom, etc. be willing to play? Darryl's been talking to me about some alternatives, but I need some feedback first to see what I can do. Lemme know!
Well, hold on, ya'll. If I were to start a weekly game on a different night and let Jay have the bi-weekly Thursday slot, would anyone such as Shawn, Doom, etc. be willing to play? Darryl's been talking to me about some alternatives, but I need some feedback first to see what I can do. Lemme know!
doomdragon6
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The one time slot's all I can really do. With schoolwork and my social life (such as it is), I don't want to feel like I'm ignoring my work or my friends more than I already am. I already miss out on doing things with our current game.
If something were to get started, I might consider it, but right now it's leaning towards no. Plus, Gusto said he was only going to do one new game, in the same time slot. I think that leaves much fewer players.
At the moment, I'm thinking we should let Jay DM the new game-- if nothing else, for the sheer fact that he's been asking for a while. He technically on the "waiting list" and when the chance pops up, for someone to hop in and say, "I want in!" does seem a bit unfair. Plus, he does have lots of stuff already prepared.
The one time slot's all I can really do. With schoolwork and my social life (such as it is), I don't want to feel like I'm ignoring my work or my friends more than I already am. I already miss out on doing things with our current game.
If something were to get started, I might consider it, but right now it's leaning towards no. Plus, Gusto said he was only going to do one new game, in the same time slot. I think that leaves much fewer players.
At the moment, I'm thinking we should let Jay DM the new game-- if nothing else, for the sheer fact that he's been asking for a while. He technically on the "waiting list" and when the chance pops up, for someone to hop in and say, "I want in!" does seem a bit unfair. Plus, he does have lots of stuff already prepared.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Oh for the love of... How many times are you going to hop around, Doom?
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Don't get mad at me because you decided to hop in last minute and make people make a decision!
Don't get mad at me because you decided to hop in last minute and make people make a decision!
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
I'm not mad at you, Doom, but I think you've been aggravating the situation unintentionally. ^^;
I'm not mad at you, Doom, but I think you've been aggravating the situation unintentionally. ^^;
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Lots of people dislike decisions. That's why combat takes so long sometimes.
Not sure that's what she asked.
Lots of people dislike decisions. That's why combat takes so long sometimes
.Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Well, everyone start getting their character sheets together and start posting!
Well, everyone start getting their character sheets together and start posting!
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Wish I knew what Shawn wanted to be so I could start planning mine. I want to make sure he gets to play the role he likes, since he's the one who hasn't gotten to really play. I'll come up with a couple ideas, I guess.
So far we have a monk and... Doom, what is your Warforged? Sounded like you were doing a melee thing, but I wasn't sure from the sound of it. And then is Deschain still a pally? So we may have our up-and-fronters settled, but I wanna make sure Shawn gets to do what he wants first and foremost.
I think it'd be safe to assume this Thursday will be Shawn's game, since we're mid-story and only a couple have their characters made.
Wish I knew what Shawn wanted to be so I could start planning mine. I want to make sure he gets to play the role he likes, since he's the one who hasn't gotten to really play. I'll come up with a couple ideas, I guess.
So far we have a monk and... Doom, what is your Warforged? Sounded like you were doing a melee thing, but I wasn't sure from the sound of it. And then is Deschain still a pally? So we may have our up-and-fronters settled, but I wanna make sure Shawn gets to do what he wants first and foremost.
I think it'd be safe to assume this Thursday will be Shawn's game, since we're mid-story and only a couple have their characters made.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
. I'll come up with a couple possibilities myself. I might be the magic person tied to Doom's golem. Not sure if that would be in a healing or damage dealing sense. The scope of that relationship has neat possibilities too. I guess that depends if Shawn wants to heal, otherwise you and me can figure that out, Gusto. If Deschain is in as his pally, that can share that idea, although it might be odd for him to be doing two pallies at once, even if they're the same character.
Damn, I wish Shawn were around to discuss things, but he's out with a woman. Sheesh. Talk about priorities.
*cough*
Okay, awesome. The more people who are settled on stuff, the easier it is for the rest of us to decide. Maybe.
In general I'd like everyone to be able to be what they want
. I'll come up with a couple possibilities myself. I might be the magic person tied to Doom's golem. Not sure if that would be in a healing or damage dealing sense. The scope of that relationship has neat possibilities too. I guess that depends if Shawn wants to heal, otherwise you and me can figure that out, Gusto. If Deschain is in as his pally, that can share that idea, although it might be odd for him to be doing two pallies at once, even if they're the same character.Damn, I wish Shawn were around to discuss things, but he's out with a woman. Sheesh. Talk about priorities.
*cough*
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Well I think I'm just happy to be playing. There isn't a specific type of class role that interests me but I would like to play something from something other than the PHB 1. But I'm willing to fill in whatever we're lacking. Defender and Leader positions are often the last to get filled, so I'd probably end up being one of those.
Well I think I'm just happy to be playing. There isn't a specific type of class role that interests me but I would like to play something from something other than the PHB 1. But I'm willing to fill in whatever we're lacking. Defender and Leader positions are often the last to get filled, so I'd probably end up being one of those.
doomdragon6
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I'm going as a Warforged Warden. That's a defender roll who gives out some friendly benefits, but I'll be focusing on more melee-based role. All of his points are in Str and Con, since he is pretty much just a brick-and-stone guard for a mage that disappeared long ago.
Anyway, sorry for exacerbating things if I did.
So Julie's DMing then?
Address to send Char Sheets?
Quick Synopsis:
Name: Ezekiel (Zeke if you decide to get friendly)
Race: Warforged / "Golem"
Class: Warden
Background: Don't remember, gives a 4 to Fire Resitance
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 290 lbs
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/683/ezekiel.jpg
Appearance: Ezekiel is a golem formed from tan-brown earth and stone, similar to above. His head has two glowing yellow eyes, which can change color depending on mood, most notably red when angered or engaged in combat. When on earthen ground, if he stands for longer than a few seconds his feet will meld into the terrain, making it seems as though he had just sprung up from the earth right then and there. He can easily step out of this, however. If Ezekiel is damaged in combat, he may draw strength from the terrain around him (healing surge) and incorporate the new terrain into his body to repair himself. (For example, he would resemble a more dirt-like golem out and about, and possibly a more solid grey stone slab-like appearance in a cave.) This change is usually temporary, however, as the new additions will crumble and fall off as the magic that created him replaces his body proper during an extended rest.
History:
Ezekiel is stone golem that was forged for the sole purpose of serving as a powerful magic-wielder's body guard throughout his travels or as a private sentry for his labs and studies. [Blank - Party or Character] discovered/will discover a deactivated Ezekiel in [Blank - up to you]. Upon restoring power to the mana-drained construction, Ezekiel woke up with no recollection of his previous duties or the identity of his master, who appears to have vanished long since. He has no idea how long it has been, but he acknowledges that the world around him "seems different." With no current purpose, he has vowed himself as the guardian of the character who infused his magic power into him (assuming we have one.) Ezekiel is barely capable of maintaining a social interraction or being creative, but is usually logical in his thought processes, though his priority is above all else to protect his master, even at the risk of his own physical safety, as that is his sole purpose in "life."
Over time he may come to form more loyalties to those around him and grow in worldly experience, but at the moment, the party seems to have gained a brick wall that can punch people.
His weapons are his fists and is incapable of wearing armor, but for RP purposes and with the DM's permission, I'd like to equip him with a maul rules-wise, but we "pretend" he's hitting with his fists. As for armor, I have him equipped with leather armor at level 1, which is just to boost his AC, but in reality he's just got a stone body. If I purchase magical weapons/armor later, I'd like to treat it as enhancements to his stone makeup than actual armor. (For example, if his armor gave him Thunder resistance, it would be more like someone imbued his stone body with Thunder Resistance.) and his Warforged status is just for rules-- I'd like him to be referred to as a golem if possible.
I understand I'm twisting a lot here, which I can understand might annoy some people. If there are any problems, lemme know.
I was considering giving him the Ritual Caster feat, so he could be like a golem that has the power of creation, but I haven't decided yet, as rituals are time-consuming and expensive, and oftentimes useless. We'll see. If so, it'll just be "unlocked" from his past or whatever. Of course, he barely has any stats so any skill checks for them would be pointless.
Anyway, for the DM I left a lot of stuff vague so she can make up things a she sees fit, like who the previous mage-type master was, if he's still alive, how he died if not, why Ezekiel was drained (death of master works), etc etc etc. Memories can still be stored in Ezekiel's "mind" and can be unlocked if the game sees a need.
Anyway yeah. That's him. I'll update with a pic soon.
(I actually spent a long time modifying a picture to make this interesting earth golem creature, but as I worked on it, I just wasn't satisfyed. Then I saw this pic, and decided that it represented what I might want in the long run. This way my golem can look very stoic and act as such at the beginning, but has the potential to gain a personality throughout the game. )
Edit: How the hell do I just display a damn picture without all this Attach crap? I can't seem to img tag or anything. Anything I do just shows up as a link.
I'm going as a Warforged Warden. That's a defender roll who gives out some friendly benefits, but I'll be focusing on more melee-based role. All of his points are in Str and Con, since he is pretty much just a brick-and-stone guard for a mage that disappeared long ago.
Anyway, sorry for exacerbating things if I did.
So Julie's DMing then?
Address to send Char Sheets?
Quick Synopsis:
Name: Ezekiel (Zeke if you decide to get friendly)
Race: Warforged / "Golem"
Class: Warden
Background: Don't remember, gives a 4 to Fire Resitance
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 290 lbs
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/683/ezekiel.jpg
Appearance: Ezekiel is a golem formed from tan-brown earth and stone, similar to above. His head has two glowing yellow eyes, which can change color depending on mood, most notably red when angered or engaged in combat. When on earthen ground, if he stands for longer than a few seconds his feet will meld into the terrain, making it seems as though he had just sprung up from the earth right then and there. He can easily step out of this, however. If Ezekiel is damaged in combat, he may draw strength from the terrain around him (healing surge) and incorporate the new terrain into his body to repair himself. (For example, he would resemble a more dirt-like golem out and about, and possibly a more solid grey stone slab-like appearance in a cave.) This change is usually temporary, however, as the new additions will crumble and fall off as the magic that created him replaces his body proper during an extended rest.
History:
Ezekiel is stone golem that was forged for the sole purpose of serving as a powerful magic-wielder's body guard throughout his travels or as a private sentry for his labs and studies. [Blank - Party or Character] discovered/will discover a deactivated Ezekiel in [Blank - up to you]. Upon restoring power to the mana-drained construction, Ezekiel woke up with no recollection of his previous duties or the identity of his master, who appears to have vanished long since. He has no idea how long it has been, but he acknowledges that the world around him "seems different." With no current purpose, he has vowed himself as the guardian of the character who infused his magic power into him (assuming we have one.) Ezekiel is barely capable of maintaining a social interraction or being creative, but is usually logical in his thought processes, though his priority is above all else to protect his master, even at the risk of his own physical safety, as that is his sole purpose in "life."
Over time he may come to form more loyalties to those around him and grow in worldly experience, but at the moment, the party seems to have gained a brick wall that can punch people.
His weapons are his fists and is incapable of wearing armor, but for RP purposes and with the DM's permission, I'd like to equip him with a maul rules-wise, but we "pretend" he's hitting with his fists. As for armor, I have him equipped with leather armor at level 1, which is just to boost his AC, but in reality he's just got a stone body. If I purchase magical weapons/armor later, I'd like to treat it as enhancements to his stone makeup than actual armor. (For example, if his armor gave him Thunder resistance, it would be more like someone imbued his stone body with Thunder Resistance.) and his Warforged status is just for rules-- I'd like him to be referred to as a golem if possible.
I understand I'm twisting a lot here, which I can understand might annoy some people. If there are any problems, lemme know.
I was considering giving him the Ritual Caster feat, so he could be like a golem that has the power of creation, but I haven't decided yet, as rituals are time-consuming and expensive, and oftentimes useless. We'll see. If so, it'll just be "unlocked" from his past or whatever. Of course, he barely has any stats so any skill checks for them would be pointless.
Anyway, for the DM I left a lot of stuff vague so she can make up things a she sees fit, like who the previous mage-type master was, if he's still alive, how he died if not, why Ezekiel was drained (death of master works), etc etc etc. Memories can still be stored in Ezekiel's "mind" and can be unlocked if the game sees a need.
Anyway yeah. That's him.
I'll update with a pic soon.(I actually spent a long time modifying a picture to make this interesting earth golem creature, but as I worked on it, I just wasn't satisfyed. Then I saw this pic, and decided that it represented what I might want in the long run. This way my golem can look very stoic and act as such at the beginning, but has the potential to gain a personality throughout the game. )
Edit: How the hell do I just display a damn picture without all this Attach crap? I can't seem to img tag or anything. Anything I do just shows up as a link.
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