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Huh. So my Barbie thread got locked.

I was wondering where it went!

LittleSin said:

Huh. So my Barbie thread got locked.

I was wondering where it went!

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It makes for a great read though!

Really though!

I'm unsure as to why it got shut down though...other than Mathias being Mathias.

people being mean to each other basically...

I guess...I didn't detect the average amount of mean-ness.

Oh well. I'll let it drop. I don't want to get a warning over discussing it.

People reported stuff and it got closed. Basically it comes down to-

It turned into three pages of this:

and :

Readers Digest, eat your heart out.

SeraRelm said:

and :

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megafap by the robofap!

The funny thing was, there was no attacks. Not even at Fig, who was going post to post disagreeing with all the scientific ones. Not even Mathias was attacking him, but simply agreeing with the situation.

Whoever was "reporting" that thread was reporting for "omg, serious discussion! Can't have that on my Halforums!". Noone was being mean to anyone.

I think it's better left where it is, so we don't get this long standing thread locked as well.

So, back on topic.

I overslept and missed an entire shift at work... WHEE!

I've read the thread . It was pretty entertaining.

However, I didn't detect anyone being 'mean'. I think the closest it got was Mathias trying to call out bull in his...usual manner. After pez mentioned his relgious beliefs the thread became a lot LESS hostile...until pez started disagreeing with any scientific fact.

I'd be really interested in knowing what the general reports were saying. Perhaps I'm just tough or maybe I'm insensitive because I just don't see how a discussion on beauty ,sex and a bit of feminism/misogyny was closed.

Edit: Woops. Sorry. I'll leave it be for real this time.

I didn't drink much last night, but had the worst hangover of my life today.

Blech. Trying to force myself to go out.

LittleSin said:

I've read the thread . It was pretty entertaining.

However, I didn't detect anyone being 'mean'. I think the closest it got was Mathias trying to call out bull in his...usual manner. After pez mentioned his relgious beliefs the thread became a lot LESS hostile...until pez started disagreeing with any scientific fact.

I'd be really interested in knowing what the general reports were saying. Perhaps I'm just tough or maybe I'm insensitive because I just don't see how a discussion on beauty ,sex and a bit of feminism/misogyny was closed.

Edit: Woops. Sorry. I'll leave it be for real this time.

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I gotta read this shit now.

LittleSin said:

until pez started disagreeing with any scientific fact.

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Okay, I'm sick of this bullshit. No one knows what part of the posts I was disagreeing with, they just assumed based on their prejudice.

figmentPez said:

Okay, I'm sick of this bullshit. No one knows what part of the posts I was disagreeing with, they just assumed based on their prejudice.

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Noone was being prejudice figmentPez all anyone was doing was pointing out scientific facts and you were disagreeing with the post. There's nothing to misunderstand here. Keep up the good work though, this thread should be closed or a mod warning should be coming up. Soon as you send a "report" I'm sure.

The funny keeps coming. Hit that dislike button like a red headed step-child! What makes it funny is that you're "tired of this bullshit" yet you keep doing it so we keep laughing.

Okay okay okay come on.

Shegokigo said:

all anyone was doing was pointing out scientific facts

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You're an idiot. "Men think about sex every _____ seconds" is NOT A FACT. That's the problem with your prejudice. You automatically assume that any statement about "science" is true, and any disagreement by someone who believes in religion is false. You don't even stop to consider that its' very difficult for soundbites to be true, and that many bits of conventional wisdom have been debunked but are still brought out in internet arguments time and time again.

Don't look at me Cajungal I was just talking about what already happened. He's the one coming in here and starting it all up again

figmentPez said:

You're an idiot. "Men think about sex every _____ seconds" is NOT A FACT. That's the problem with your prejudice. You automatically assume that any statement about "science" is true, and any disagreement by someone who believes in religion is false. You don't even stop to consider that its' very difficult for soundbites to be true, and that many bits of conventional wisdom have been debunked but are still brought out in internet arguments time and time again.

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There was much more than just that posted kiddo. You ignored all the rest of the proof which were far from soundbites. You're putting your fingers in your ears and pressing that dislike button.

Hell, you even disagreed with the post that I agreed with you on that part. That's how little you were reading the posts before you were hitting the dislike button. Much like you're doing now.

Shegokigo said:

There was much more than just that posted kiddo. You ignored all the rest of the proof which were far from soundbites. You're putting your fingers in your ears and pressing that like button.

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Again, back to your prejudice. You made assumptions about what I disagreed with, without bothering to even ask.

See? You disagreed with me, when I just said you weren't reading the post.

The only one being predjudice in this, is you, I hate to say.

Shegokigo said:

See? You disagreed with me, when I just said you weren't reading the post..

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And you were wrong. You made a false statement about me, so I disagreed with it.

There's nothing false about you disagreeing with a scientific factually posted article that you clicked "disagree" on because you didn't want to read it.

I'm not talking about Mathias's "15 second rule" I had agreed with you and Kagsin about the fact that it isn't true. Yet you disliked my post. Care to explain?

Okay guys. I'm sorry.

I'm going to post puppy gifs until this is over.

I'd say naming names is a lot like starting it, although I can't say that fig coming in to argue is a good call either. I'm just requesting that you take it to pms or let the damn thing drop. Or hell, start a new thread to talk about whatever y'all were talking about.

LittleSin said:

Okay guys. I'm sorry.

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Don't be sorry that he's causing another explosion over something he's not even bothering to try to understand.

I've already tried to tell him I agreed with him on a few points and he refuses to listen. I can't help that.

Cajungal said:

I'd say naming names is a lot like starting it, although I can't say that fig coming in to argue is a good call either. I'm just requesting that you take it to pms or let the damn thing drop. Or hell, start a new thread to talk about whatever y'all were talking about.

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Can't, it'll get closed because people will report it. That's the problem with closing threads with discussions, the discussions will continue until they're "done". Worse if you close the thread, it'll spill into multiple threads.

Shegokigo said:

Care to explain?

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No.

Cajungal said:

I'd say naming names is a lot like starting it, although I can't say that fig coming in to argue is a good call either.

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What am I supposed to do? Just sit here and listen to the libel?

If it were coming from a single poster, I'd just ignore it, but to have multiple posters making unfounded assumptions about my viewpoint is sickening. What the hell is wrong with you assholes?

figmentPez said:

What am I supposed to do? Just sit here and listen to the libel?

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No, just come in, click "Dislike" then respond "No" when someone honestly asks why you disagree with them, after they've agreed with you.

Just because you're hurting physically/mentally outside of the forum, doesn't mean you have to come in here, tearing ass because someone disagreed with you. Can't you just, you know, discuss your point like a normal person?

If you don't like responses like Mathias, you could at least do people like myself and Gasbandit the dignity of responding as kindly as we do to you.

That's fine, dislike it all you want. Doesn't make it any less true.

I tried treating you like an adult. Go right ahead man. I understand you're just lashing out due to your outside forum problems. I'm not going to fault you for it, just disappointed that you couldn't find another way.

Shegokigo said:

If you don't like responses like Mathias, you could at least do people like myself and Gasbandit the dignity of responding as kindly as we do to you.

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Sorry, you've been anything but kind. Making assumptions about a person's motivation is not fair, and the fact that you continue to assume I'm acting based on motivations I have specifically said I do not have is a real dick move.

Shegokigo said:

That's fine, dislike it all you want. Doesn't make it any less true.

I tried treating you like an adult. Go right ahead man. I understand you're just lashing out due to your outside forum problems. I'm not going to fault you for it, just disappointed that you couldn't find another way.

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Shego, this...

He would never sully their purity by being so bold as to inquire upon them a notice of attraction and wanton lusty desire.

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This says it all. I'm gonna go get heart surgery to increase my capacity for loving you. Gods, that was glorious.

figmentPez said:

Sorry, you've been anything but kind. Making assumptions about a person's motivation is not fair, and the fact that you continue to assume I'm acting based on motivations I have specifically said I do not have is a real dick move.

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Alright, I want to ask you straight out so we can leave this all behind:

What were/are your reasons?

LittleSin said:

Alright, I want to ask you straight out so we can leave this all behind:

What were/are your reasons?

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I already asked him that. His response: "No"

I like the cut of your jib, BH. So I will also post a small animal or two.

Okay, done with the thread. Not as chaotic as was hyped, but lots of good stuff. Sometimes it's fun to go through a finished thread like that and just pass out post ratings like candy.

Only gave one Disagree even though Pez posted many, many times.

Direwolf anyone?

Hmm, a different thread the same argument...

OK!

Silver Jelly said:

http://ink361.com/#/photos/179725495438058470_34167727

I took this picture of my amazing saturday evening 40 minutes ago

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I am liking this because you are watching Dylan Moran and I love Dylan Moran.

LittleSin said:

What were/are your reasons?

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That varies depending on the post. I already noted that in one case it was because there was a blatantly wrong "fact" being claimed. I don't care if the rest of the post made an argument beyond that "fact", the mere stating of something that belongs only to urban myth was reason enough for me to register a "disagree".

Heck, that post where Mathias supposedly gave an argument beyond "15 seconds" was all of three sentences, and his amazing scientific "fact" was " There is probably not one day that goes by where either consciously or subconsciously you don't want to fuck the shit out of someone you saw out on the street." Which is not something that is founded in any sort of reality, like it or not. That is not a scientific statement, and it is not a statement that is backed up by any psychological testing I've ever heard of.

Many other posts I disagreed with because they made assumptions about other poster's motivations. I disagree with unfounded personal attacks. Ad homeniem attacks are not good arguments. Any post calling me a white knight was likely to be disagreed with because I hate the term, and I firmly believe it does not apply to me, and I should have the right to disagree with people who want to libel me. I strongly disagree with the idea that it's impossible for men to value the friendship of women without an interest in sex. It's not my experience, and I've known many guys who are the same way.

I disagreed with Shego's posts about a lack of sex causing strange things to happen, as I disagree with that statement, and it's not based on any scientific fact.

I disagreed with Gasbandit's "Biology says" because science does not work that way. What scientists have learned from the study of biology is a lot more complicated than the sound bite that he presented. Moreover, it's not only wrong to say that all men who refrain from having as much sex as they can only do so because they don't have the opportunity, it's blatantly false.

All in all, there was very little science presented in that thread, and I feel completely justified in disagreeing with people presenting tiny little bits of spin that don't accurately reflect the entirety of of the complex sciences involved in human sexuality.

Shegokigo said:

I already asked him that. His response: "No"

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I said "no" to you because you're being a jerk and you have a long standing history of not caring what I say, but interpreting my actions solely through your own personal bias. I gave an answer to LittleSin because I thought she might listen beyond seeking to affirm preconceived notions.

Any post calling me a white knight was likely to be disagreed with because I hate the term, and I firmly believe it does not apply to me

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My preconceived notion I wish to affirm is that Pez just really likes to click on that little red X.

figmentPez said:

libel.

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Okay, can we wrap this up? I actually had plans tonight and I'm sitting here posting goddamn puppy gifs instead of going out.

Quotemander Prime said:

My preconceived notion I wish to affirm is that Pez just really likes to click on that little red X.

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Aww, damn.

Keep going, I want more puppy pics...

Shego AND Pez, just cut it out, or take it into PMs. This thread is already 112 pages long and I'd hate to see it locked because you two are spilling your argument over from another thread.

Quotemander Prime said:

Aww, damn.

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I fixed it for you. It's not the same as a Pez X, but I hope it's a consolation.

Libel: defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.

Defame: to attack the good name or reputation of, as by uttering or publishing maliciously or falsely anything injurious;

I'm pretty sure I do know what the word I'm using means.

NO USE TRYING TO CHEER ME UP FRANK BUT THANKS ANYWAY.

SeraRelm said:

Keep going, I want more puppy pics...

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Have fun going out, nanner hands.

Bowielee said:

Shego AND Pez, just kiss already!

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FTFY

Uh, oh, someone forgot to lock the thread...

I like how you post this after the admins have called it a night

I didn't even know it was open until Null posted and bumped it up in my alerts

hehee catch that ball Mr. Puppy

Sigh...