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Cause fuck you, you don't get them anymore.

I don't mind too much when the government preaches to you about bad choices. But to regulate what type and how much fluid you can pour down your gullet?

Yeah, I'm of two minds. One, great, drink less shitty drink, be less fat. Two, fuck you, I won't do what you tell me.

That's as succinct as it gets.

It's due to the aggressive taxi lobby. First, heavy people cost more in fuel, and second a spilled 16 oz beverage is less of a hassle than the 64oz behemoth in the back of the cab.

Honestly I don't think the restaurants care. They'll likely make more money with the ban than without. But the companies that produce the product will end up selling less, and thus making less profit.

I believe it's intrusive gov't meddling, though.

I'm really annoyed by this, and I don't even buy big sodas.

Public education is one thing, but telling people they're not allowed to buy a big version of an otherwise legal product in some (but not all) places seems 1) too selective to truly combat the problem, 2) extremely overly intrusive upon people's decisions, and 3) unlikely to help since people who like soda will just get more soda.

And as for allowing diet sodas, while they're certainly less calories, aspartame and other sugar-substitutes have otherwise very similar effects on your body as actual sugar as far as your metabolic rates are concerned.

Why not try some other things first, like testing whether tax incentives to bodegas and small grocers to stock things other than sodas at affordable prices decreases soda consumption in impoverished neighborhoods? Why straight to banning?

Because prohibition of things works every time.

BAN ALL THE SUGARS![DOUBLEPOST=1347567649][/DOUBLEPOST]What I don't get is how the corn lobby let this one slip by. You'd think they'd only have to send a few threats and kill one person on the board to make sure they aren't affected.

Hey New York...

So what if someone brings their own giant cup and fills it up at a soda fountain?

Do the police go after them?

Espy said:

So what if someone brings their own giant cup and fills it up at a soda fountain?

Do the police go after them?

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That was my question. What's stopping someone from ordering 4 small drinks and pouring them into a travel mug? Besides not wanting diabetes.

Cajungal said:

That was my question. What's stopping someone from ordering 4 small drinks and pouring them into a travel mug?

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Nothing. Thats why this law is stupid.

Psychology. People aren't likely to order two drinks, they'll just get whatever's available like people always do.

The heck I will! Gimme 75 6 ounce soda's!

So basically the government is shaming people for what they eat/drink. Way to go guys.

Soda is poison any way. I'm okay without a big cup.

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Yoshimickster said:

Soda is poison any way. I'm okay without a big cup.

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And because you're okay with it, everyone else should be (forced to be), too?

GasBandit Its just a slightly larger cup. A medium sized soda is big enough. Sure they aren't as collectable as the big plastic ones but I can deal. I'm sorry if I sound like some pushy health nazi(which I'm not) but this not a big issue to me. I will admit however that the possible Massachusetts ban on free refills is a bad idea. This looks like its smart business wise but in reality is just annoys the customers and makes them not want to go to that place again.

Yoshimickster said:

GasBandit Its just a slightly larger cup. A medium sized soda is big enough. Sure they aren't as collectable as the big plastic ones but I can deal. I'm sorry if I sound like some pushy health nazi(which I'm not) but this not a big issue to me.

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So why regulate at all? You will always be able to get less soda.

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This I will agree it is pointless. The size of the cup really is a pointless bureaucratic change. People will most likely drink as much soda as they normally do.

SpecialKO said:

So why regulate at all? You will always be able to get less soda.

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Breaking news: after coca cola announces layoffs, government passes soda mandate.

Yoshimickster said:

GasBandit Its just a slightly larger cup. A medium sized soda is big enough. Sure they aren't as collectable as the big plastic ones but I can deal. I'm sorry if I sound like some pushy health nazi(which I'm not) but this not a big issue to me. I will admit however that the possible Massachusetts ban on free refills is a bad idea. This looks like its smart business wise but in reality is just annoys the customers and makes them not want to go to that place again.

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The size is not the issue, the issue is in what possible reality would it be acceptable for government to decide one size is not ok while two of another size, which exceeds the size of the first, is? It's not about health, it's about control.

GasBandit I guess it just doesn't bother me as much as other government mandates as its nothing really serious to me personally. Course it does bother some people and for that I do empathize and apologize for sounding elitist.

Edit: Did I just type elitist in this post? Dear lord Fox News is taking over my brain.

Yoshimickster said:

GasBandit I guess it just doesn't bother me as much as other government mandates as its nothing really serious to me personally. Course it does bother some people and for that I do empathize and apologize for sounding elitist.

Edit: Did I just type elitist in this post? Dear lord Fox News is taking over my brain.

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It's usually not a good idea to ignore stupid legislature just because it doesn't personally inconvenience you. I never have any need to say the word mukluks, but if it were banned, I'd be very much against it.

I was going to use gay marriage as an example, but it seems wrong to put that on the same level as soda.

Ravenpoe Damn straight dude. That's the kind of error Christi/Caine would make in a speech. The kind that would be made fun of on the Daily Show and Colbert Report fifteen times.

As trite as it is, the "They came for the X, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't an X" quote is apropos.

Indeed, and I apologize. Mostly because soda is really really bad for me in particular. Bones and what-not.

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Bones and what-not.

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I get my soda boneless.


--Patrick

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I get my soda boneless.
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Turkey and gravy flavor. This world doesn't cease to amaze/confound me.

Seriously though, the phosphoric acid in most sodas is a leading cause of arthitis. I came a little close and I'm a tad bitter towards soda in general.

They also make a Pepto-Bismal flavored one to go with the rest of the Thanksgiving Dinner set.

They've actually done some pretty good seasonal sodas, but they tend to discontinue them. I had a pumpkin soda that was pretty awesome, but the Lemondrop Dead was awful.

Pumpkin based beverages can run the gambit from delicious to completely nasty. He who drinks a pumpkin based drink without research is a brave man.

I wish there was a size limit on the smallest drink offered sometimes, because I hate that when i go to the movies with my kids, if I don't get them a "kid's pack" I have to get them the smallest normal size, which I feel I can fit a mini van into.