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So... I want to return to Pokemon games

#1

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I honestly think that I never played anything but green/red, but was thinking in start playing again, possible with that diamond/pearl game, or whatever is the latest, any tips or thoughs? >__<


#2

Hylian

Hylian

Well they recently released some remakes of Pokemon Gold/Silver (Pokemon Heart of Gold/Soul Silver) . But they will be releasing some new games probably sometime early next year.


#3

Far

Far

The re-releases of silver and gold have a tonne of little extras added that once having played with them make it hard for me to go back and even play diamond and pearl. They aren't anything huge but not having to hold a button to run, once you've played with it, is hard to let go. It's also one of the larger games letting you go to both Kanto and Johto. If you don't mind waiting I believe the next gen versions, Black and White, will most likely be coming out spring next year.


#4

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Hylian said:
Well they recently released some remakes of Pokemon Gold/Silver (Pokemon Heart of Gold/Soul Silver) . But they will be releasing some new games probably sometime early next year.
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Do they Rotom new forms, I want to play the game just because they are bloody cute =D

I guess I will try Gold or Silver.


#5

Dave

Dave

You know, we'll have something like it soon. :D


#6

Wahad

Wahad

If you're going for Heartgold/Soulsilver, prepare for terrible leveling balance in the wild pokeymans

If you want to get Diamond/Pearl, get Platinum instead. Lots of new features. You can only get the new Rotom forms if you have a special key item, though, which was distributed at an event so I don't think you'll be able to get that unless somebody trades it to you attached to a pokemon over the Global Trading System (that's right, no more trading pokeymans over a cable - now you can use wifi!)

Or you can wait a few months for Black/White (Japanese release is pushing for Sept 2010 last I heard, so the US release would be what, early 2011?) which has all new pokemon


#7

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

For someone who's never played and wants to experience it "from the beginning". What order would you recommend?

The wiki is convoluted and hard to follow, since there have been so many games and remakes.


#8

Hylian

Hylian

I would say to start with either Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green cause they are remakes of the original games.


#9

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Then? I'm getting lost on the whole directors cuts of stuff that "combine" some of the games. Like Crystal/Platinum/Sapphire etc.


#10

Hylian

Hylian

Than I would play

Pokemon Heart of Gold/Soul Silver
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum


#11

phil

phil

Dave said:
You know, we'll have something like it soon. :D
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Like.... Forumon?

we'll be posting and a wild Cajungal will appear?


#12

Shegokigo

Shegokigo



#13

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

On a related note, I made this Fakemons of Justice Trio by ~tharal2814 on deviantART


#14

ElJuski

ElJuski

Far said:
The re-releases of silver and gold have a tonne of little extras added that once having played with them make it hard for me to go back and even play diamond and pearl. They aren't anything huge but not having to hold a button to run, once you've played with it, is hard to let go. It's also one of the larger games letting you go to both Kanto and Johto. If you don't mind waiting I believe the next gen versions, Black and White, will most likely be coming out spring next year.
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Wait, you can go through the original pokemon game with Heart Gold? I need to snag this.....

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#15



Reboneer

Shegokigo said:
Then? I'm getting lost on the whole directors cuts of stuff that "combine" some of the games. Like Crystal/Platinum/Sapphire etc.
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Ok, there have been four generations of games -- each generation is basically one game. First they release a paired version (e.g. Red and Blue, Gold and Silver) which are identical, but with different Pokémon available, to encourage trading. Then they release a third version (e.g. Crystal), which has a few improvements, but is still more-or-less the same game.

Starting with Gen 3, they've also released remakes (Gen 3 had remakes of Gen 1, Gen 4 had remakes of Gen 2). So you'll probably want to play the most recent version of each game -- this is either the third version, or the remake.

So, to summarise:

Generation 1 (GameBoy)
Paired versions: Red and Blue
Third version: Yellow*

Generation 2 (GameBoy Color)
Paired versions: Gold and Silver
Third version: Crystal

Generation 3 (GameBoy Advance)
Paired versions: Ruby and Sapphire
Third version: Emerald
Remakes: FireRed and LeafGreen (remakes of Generation 1)

Generation 4 (DS)
Paired versions: Diamond and Pearl
Third version: Platinum
Remakes: HeartGold and SoulSilver (remakes of Generation 2)

...and soon we'll be getting
Generation 5 (DS)
Paired versions: Black and White


So if you really want to play all of them in order, go FireRed, HeartGold, Emerald, Platinum. That said though, the only games that are a direct sequel are Gold and Silver, and even then you don't need to have played Red and Blue beforehand, so there's no harm in just picking up the most recent version.




*This is not entirely accurate. In Japan, the paired versions were Red and Green, and the third version was Blue. For the western release, they took all of the improvements of Japanese Blue, but gave them the available Pokémon from Japanese Red and Green, and called them Red and Blue. This is why the remakes are called FireRed and LeafGreen, rather than FireRed and WaterBlue or whatever. Yellow was a "special edition" which introduced stuff from the anime, and isn't really considered canon, but since it's the only other generation 1 game we got outside of Japan, it usually gets counted as the third version.

.... but if you're playing the GBA remakes of generation 1 anyway, none of this matters to you.


#16

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

It's also kind of a waste of time to play them all; gameplay improves, Pokemon are added, but there's not a ton else.

So really, you either want to play Pokemon Platinum, or HeartGold/SoulSilver. I recommend choosing HeartGold or SoulSilver. They carry a bunch of the new games' Pokemon as well as the old ones, you can get starters from different generations within the game, and it has much better stylus controls that make the menu a breeze compared to old games. It also comes with a little Pokewalker accessory which you can transfer a Pokemon to and take it with you places, so as you walk, the Pokemon gets experience.


#17



Reboneer

The Pokéwalker is awesome, but not for gaining experience (you can only gain one level at a time, you miss out on level up moves, you don't get EVs etc). It's awesome for catching all kinds of rare Pokémon right at the start of the game, and for getting a shitload of rare items to sell so you have heaps of money early in the game. All of this just for putting a pedometer in your pocket and going about your daily routine.


#18

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I try to keep a Poke in there just for some free experience, though you're right, I end up having to keep an eye out on a guide to be sure an important move I want isn't on the horizon.

And it is awesome for making money. I use that Night Sky route a lot and it drops plenty of Star Dust or Rare Bones (5000 bucks for the latter).


#19

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

In all honesty, each Pokemon game is it's own beginning. Yes, if you don't play the previous versions, you'll have to trade for the Pokemon your missing (if you want them) but each game is balanced around itself. It's only if you play competitively that you need to worry about Pokemon from previous generations, as some of them (like Garchomp and Wobuffet) are incredibly nasty in fights.

So ether go out and get Heart Gold/Soul Silver, or wait for the White/Black to come out in a few months.


#20

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

Been looking to get back into it too.

I'm not interested in the newer generations (Gen II was pushing it already), so if I got Fire Red or Leaf Green, I'd be set with original Blue/Red + Gen II + Newer Innovations, like breeding etc?


#21

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

doomdragon6 said:
Been looking to get back into it too.

I'm not interested in the newer generations (Gen II was pushing it already), so if I got Fire Red or Leaf Green, I'd be set with original Blue/Red + Gen II + Newer Innovations, like breeding etc?
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HeartGold/SoulSilver is Gen II + innovations. You have to go out of your way to seek out the ones from Gen III and Gen IV. Part of the game actually involves going back to Gen I territory and getting all those badges.


#22

bhamv3

bhamv3

The next generation needs a strong Garchomp counter, because that thing is sick.


#23

Wahad

Wahad

A proper Starmie with Ice Beam (or some equivalent ice attack) is already a very good Garchomp counter. Admittedly a bit of a glass cannon, but speed and spatk are wicked.


#24

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Wahad said:
If you want to get Diamond/Pearl, get Platinum instead. Lots of new features. You can only get the new Rotom forms if you have a special key item, though, which was distributed at an event so I don't think you'll be able to get that unless somebody trades it to you attached to a pokemon over the Global Trading System (that's right, no more trading pokeymans over a cable - now you can use wifi!)
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oh.

I guess I don't want to play it anymore! u_u


#25

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

bhamv3 said:
The next generation needs a strong Garchomp counter, because that thing is sick.
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Pretty much anything with ice, good special, and good speed. That might discount Gen IV exclusives, but I've always found Garchomp pretty easy to take down, like the other Dragon types, since they're always paired with Flying or Ground (except the legendaries) which have a x4 weakness to Ice attacks.


#26

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I came back in on Sapphire after being gone since Blue. I had fun with it, but ended up restarting on Emerald and liking that a lot. If I get some spare cash I'd like to pick up HeartGold or SoulSilver, though. Honestly I just want a Houndoom and a Tyranitar. D:


#27

Wahad

Wahad

escushion;409490][QUOTE=bhamv3 said:
The next generation needs a strong Garchomp counter, because that thing is sick.
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Pretty much anything with ice, good special, and good speed. That might discount Gen IV exclusives, but I've always found Garchomp pretty easy to take down, like the other Dragon types, since they're always paired with Flying or Ground (except the legendaries) which have a x4 weakness to Ice attacks.[/QUOTE]

And Kingdra.

Man, fuck Kingdra.


#28

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The fact that you NEED to field a specific type of mon, merely to counter Garchomp, speaks seriously of it's power though. An entire meta-game shouldn't need to be balanced around a single creature.

Also, Stealth Rock NEEDS to be nerfed. Huge swaths of excellent mons were dropped down a tier because of that single move.


#29

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Really? I thought Stealth Rock was pretty worthless.

You don't need an Ice type Pokemon to crush Garchomp. He can be killed by Dragon types pretty easily as well, but Ice moves are quickest, even when sent out of a Water Pokemon.

Water Pokemon currently account for nearly 100 of the 490+ Pokemon existing. I think Garchomp is well fucked.


#30

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I remember the first thing I noticed about types when getting into Sapphire is how fucking rare Fire types seemed to be. There were all of two you could catch, and both were in the same place a couple hours into the game. Made me miss my Arcanine I had gotten from my brother's Red game back when we both played.


#31

Zappit

Zappit

I got back into it with Platinum - also got Soulsilver. An Action Replay can fill in all those gaps you missed from the other games. (special events pokes, version-exclusive pokes)


#32

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

escushion said:
Really? I thought Stealth Rock was pretty worthless.

You don't need an Ice type Pokemon to crush Garchomp. He can be killed by Dragon types pretty easily as well, but Ice moves are quickest, even when sent out of a Water Pokemon.

Water Pokemon currently account for nearly 100 of the 490+ Pokemon existing. I think Garchomp is well fucked.
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True, but MOST of those water pokemon are worthless fodder or are multi-typed. How many pure, non-legendary water types are that good? Maybe 4-5? Toss in another type, and the list improves, but so do your chances of being nailed by a move your weak to. Trying it with Ice is just as bad, if not worse.... and you can forget about trying Dragon, as anything that has STAB for Dragon moves is going to be weak to Garchomp's own Dragon moves and nothing non-Uber is going to outrun it.

The biggest problem with Garchomp is that you really only have 2-3 turns to take it out, and that's assuming your faster than it. It's going to do Swords Dance it's first turn, but once it does, it's going to OHKO or 2HKO pretty much anything you send at it. That means that unless you have your Garchomp killer out before Garchomp comes out, you may not get enough hits in to kill it and it could, quite literally, wipe your team on it's own.

If your know your going to be facing it, your basically going to be carrying one of four Pokemon:

- Weavile: It has more speed than Garchomp, lots of attack power, and it's Ice Punch is strong enough to OHKO it.
- Starmie: Sort of like Weavile, but with Ice Beam instead.
- Skarmory: It's pretty tanky and can resist both of Garchomp's types, but Garchomp could have a Fire move to handle it. But your basically just going to use Whirlwind to get ride of it, which isn't a goog choice.
- Bronzong: Same deal as Skarmory, but with Hypnosis or Reflect.

There are other choices, but they really aren't as viable.


#33

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I never used any of those four and Garchomp's never been a problem for me. When he comes up in online matches, he's never been one of the non-legendary Pokemon I've seen in my opponent's roster and thought "Oh shit, I hope he doesn't pick him." Never realized he even had a notorious nature, and I've fought and murdered a lot of them over Pokemon Battle Revolution.


#34

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

escushion said:
I never used any of those four and Garchomp's never been a problem for me. When he comes up in online matches, he's never been one of the non-legendary Pokemon I've seen in my opponent's roster and thought "Oh shit, I hope he doesn't pick him." Never realized he even had a notorious nature, and I've fought and murdered a lot of them over Pokemon Battle Revolution.
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They probably weren't properly EV/IV trained. A Garchomp with maxed Attack and Speed EVs will generally out-damage and outrun anything short of an Uber. When I say it can literally wipe teams on it's own, I'm not exaggerating. It's been banned from more than one official tournament.

It's only real weakness is it's predictability, because you generally know what four moves it's going to have:

- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Swords Dance
- Substitute / Stone Edge / Fire Fang

OR

- Earthquake
- Outrage / Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge
- Fire Fang / Crunch

It's rare to see one without those moves in a competition.


#35

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to tell sometimes whose Pokemon are EV-trained. Though those are the general movesets I see.


#36

bhamv3

bhamv3

Garchomp can be even scarier on a sand stream team, because now ice moves have a chance of missing.

Garchomp + Tyranitar... oh god.


#37

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I just searched this garchomp, It is a "land shark dragon jet" pokemon or I am wrong?


#38

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

Hearing people meta-game like this make me really not want to get back into Pokemon. :(

Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of what the difference between Red/Blue and Fire Red/Leaf Green are? If someone did, I didn't catch it...


#39

Wahad

Wahad

All the bugs from R/B/Y are fixed, natures of pokemon are added, there's a whole new section (Sevii islands) where you can catch 2nd/3rd generation pokes eventually...

Probably more but I can't think of it at the moment.


#40

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

doomdragon6 said:
Hearing people meta-game like this make me really not want to get back into Pokemon. :(

Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of what the difference between Red/Blue and Fire Red/Leaf Green are? If someone did, I didn't catch it...
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Copied from the Bulbapedia Page...
Note: This is a GBA game. You ether need a GBA, or a DS/DSLite to play it. The DSi doesn't have the GBA slot, so you can't use it to play it!

Changes from Pokémon Red and Green

* Players can now play as a female character, as well as choosing to play as the male character that was default in Generation I.
* The music has been remixed to take advantage of the Game Boy Advance's power; however, the themes themselves remain the same.
* As in all Generation III games, Pokémon now have natures, abilities, genders, and can hold items.
* Three additional aides for Professor Oak have been included to pass off items that were introduced in Generation II and III, while a returning aid now passes off the Exp. Share, the item which replaced the Generation I item Exp. All in Generation II.
* Pokémon retain their Generation II and III evolutionary lines (e.g. Golbat can evolve into Crobat), but cannot evolve into these stages until the player has obtained the National Pokédex.
* Magnemite and Magneton are Electric/Steel, as they were in Generation II as well as Ruby and Sapphire.
* A new southern region, the Sevii Islands, is accessible, where Generation II Pokémon can be caught. Notably most of these Generation II Pokémon cannot be found in Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald.
* One of Johto's legendary beasts will be roaming around Kanto after defeating the Elite Four and obtaining the National Pokédex. Out of which of the three that is selected, Entei, Suicune, or Raikou will appear based on which the type advantage they have over the Starter Pokémon the player initially selected.
* Pokémon can breed in the Pokémon daycare in Four Island as well as still having access to the Pokémon daycare on Route 5.
* Trainers outdoors can be rebattled using the Vs Seeker.
* Information on major characters, e.g. Gym Leaders, are stored in the Fame Checker.
* Pokémon movelists are updated to include moves introduced in Generation II and Generation III.
* The TM list is shared with other Generation III games.
* Move tutors become available to teach moves formerly contained in Generation I TMs.
* The Elite Four can be re-battled and get Generation II Pokémon on their teams in addition to Generation I Pokémon after the Sevii Islands quest has been completed.
* Version-exclusive Pokémon and wild Pokémon distribution have been altered from the original games to account for new evolutions released in Generation II.
* Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon are available as move tutor moves to the Kanto starters' final forms at Cape Brink on Two Island and can only be taught to the one whose base form was the original choice at the beginning of the game.
* Deoxys debuts two new forms: Attack Forme (FireRed) and Defense Forme (LeafGreen).
* Team Rocket has an expanded role in the game's post-Elite storyline, with a new base in the Sevii Islands.
* Battles with wild legendary Pokémon Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, and Mewtwo feature a remixed battle theme. In addition, Moltres has moved from its original location in Victory Road to Mt. Ember. The Cerulean Cave where Mewtwo is has not only changed to where Rock Smash is not only needed, but completing the post-game mission on the Sevii Islands is now an additional requirement to be permitted to enter.
* Other than Moltres, Ponyta and Magmar (LeafGreen only), have also been moved to a new location. They are now located on One Island's Kindle Road (Ponyta) and Mt. Ember. In Generation I they were found in the Pokémon Mansion on Cinnabar Island.
* In non-Japanese versions, the dialogues are colored, depending if it is from a male or female, being the colors blue and red, respectively. In dialogues from other sources, such as signs, the text remains black.
* A resume feature was introduced, allowing players to remember the four most important events they achieved in the games the last time they were played.
* A help feature was added, and can be viewed by pressing the L or R buttons of the console.
* The Power Plant background music has been changed. In the original games, it played the Rocket Hideout theme. In FireRed and LeafGreen, it plays the Pokémon Mansion theme.

The GBA Wireless Adapter was initially included with the games when they were first released, eliminating the need for link cables when trading between the two games (and later Emerald).
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#41



Reboneer

doomdragon6 said:
Hearing people meta-game like this make me really not want to get back into Pokemon. :(

Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of what the difference between Red/Blue and Fire Red/Leaf Green are? If someone did, I didn't catch it...
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Well first of all, there's this:



Then, you've got all the other improvements that have been made to the series since Generation 1.

One of the major changes in Gen 2 was splitting the "Special" stat into "Special Attack" and "Special Defense". They also made some changes to the type chart, since in Gen 1 it was horribly unbalanced in favour of psychic types (mainly due to a bug that had ghost type moves ineffective against psychic types, instead of super effective, despite what NPCs said). This included adding two new types -- Dark, and Steel. Gen 2 also introduced Pokemon breeding.

Gen 3 introduced new game mechanics like Natures, and Abilities. Natures are sort of the personality of each individual Pokemon, and they affect the stats of the Pokemon. Abilities are attributes of Pokemon that affect battle... for example, Bulbasaur has the ability "Overgrow", which means that when it has less than 25% HP, its grass type moves will become more powerful; and Pikachu has the ability "Static", which means that when other Pokemon make physical contact with it, they'll become paralyzed. Gen 3 also had a complete overhaul of the Pokemon data structure, and a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff like EVs and IVs work completely differently.

If you're not into competitive play, or any meta-game stuff, you can completely ignore EVs, IVs, and natures (I do for the most part).

For more details, here's a list of changes made in Gen 2, Gen 3, as well as other changes made in FireRed and LeafGreen.


#42

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Reboneer said:
If you're not into competitive play, or any meta-game stuff, you can completely ignore EVs, IVs, and natures (I do for the most part).
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Actually, you DO need to account for Nature if you plan to do the contests. Nature determines what flavors of Pokeblocks/Puffins that each Pokemon likes, which effects how much stat gain they get when eating one and how much Happiness they gain/lose from eating one. You generally want a nature that favors the contest your planning it for, as this will maximize your starting appeal and really help you win in the later contests.

This is also pretty crucial if your trying to get a Milotic, as getting a nature that favors Beauty can make it much simpler to evolve your Feebas.


#43

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

@AshburnerX

Reading your last post made me say a big fat "wut?" =P

The Nature thing sounds really interesting. Thanks for all the info. I think I'll give them a try.


#44

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Nature is basically the attributes a Pokemon is born with. It only matters for maxing certain stats, or for Contests (which are like Pokemon fashion shows in the game, and they're boring IMO and I never do them).

If you're just getting a GBA game, and you're not playing against people, not doing fashion shows in the game, then you can ignore everything we've been talking about. You can honestly get through the single-player game with almost any set of Pokemon.


#45

bhamv3

bhamv3

I've heard of people beating the game with just a single Caterpie. This is known as the Caterpie challenge.


#46

ElJuski

ElJuski

It's really funny to see Reboneer actually post something that isn't just some stupid snarky, sarcastic remark.

And get a little nerdy.


#47

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

bhamv3 said:
I've heard of people beating the game with just a single Caterpie. This is known as the Caterpie challenge.
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Does it have to STAY a Caterpie or can it Evolve? If it can evolve up to Butterfree, then I could see this being doable. Butterfree learns a few good psychic moves and has many status attacks, so it can inflict Poison, Paralyze, Sleep, and Confuse. Plus, once you hit the 70's-80, your going to be able to OHKO just about any member of the Elite 4 anyway.


#48

bhamv3

bhamv3

The challenge I saw was that it had to stay a Caterpie.

Apparently this is only doable in the first gen games. Later generation Caterpies are KO'd too easily by the Elite Four, even at level 100.


#49

Calleja

Calleja

If I had no access to any type of game boy, which version would you.. hypothetically, of course... recommend to play emulated on, say, my laptop? Any emulators you're familiar with that are maybe like pokemon specific or something? All hypothetical and for research purposes, of course.


#50

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Your mom's a good Pokemon emulator.



She pokes... mons... yeah. :/


#51

ElJuski

ElJuski

escushion said:
Your mom's a good Pokemon emulator.



She pokes... mons... yeah. :/
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negrep


#52



Cobra Star

This thread blows my mind. I played Blue way back in they day and really enjoyed the RPG elements of it, but the intricacy that the game seems to have gone into is blowing my mind....


#53

Gusto

Gusto

Yeah I tink playing a Pokemon game now, having only played Red before, would be completely beyond my ken.


#54

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Here's the thing... Red and Blue were quite complicated themselves. Things like EVs and IVs were still in the game (although nobody knew about them at the time), you still had to take into account the metagame (which basically consisted of dealing with Alakazam and Dragonite at that point), and you had to know which moves and types were bugged and which weren't. You just never realized it because you were... well... kids.

This is why I point and laugh whenever somebody says Pokemon is "just" a kids game. It's practically chess at this point!


#55

bhamv3

bhamv3

Most of the seemingly complex stuff discussed here is only relevant to competitive battling. For in-game play, the gameplay's roughly the same as it was back in Red/Blue/Yellow, just with new Pokemon to collect and new areas to explore.

The difference between a perfect competitive battle Pokemon and a random in-game Pokemon isn't that big. For example, each nature adds or deducts a stat by 10%. That means a Pokemon with a perfect nature and a Pokemon with a neutral will only differ in their relevant stat by 10%. That 10% isn't going to make much of a difference in in-game play, but for a competitive match, it's a huge difference.

Competitive battlers are the kind of people who would breed Pokemon obsessively, running around with five eggs at once, trying to hatch the ones with the right natures and IVs. And then they'll fight a certain number of specific Pokemon, to get the exact EVs they want, for example killing precisely 120 Zubats, no more, no less.

For them (or maybe I should say "us"), such an obsessive approach to Pokemon offers an edge over the casual player in a competitive match. But if you're not into the competitive scene, then don't worry, just have fun with the game. Back when I was a regular on the Gamefaqs Pokemon boards, whenever someone asked for help on building a team, the first thing we'd ask is, "Is this for competitive battling or in-game?" If they said "in-game" we'd just tell them to use whatever Pokemon they want, it'll all work out in the end.


#56

Calleja

Calleja

SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION DAMMIT


#57



Reboneer

Calleja said:
If I had no access to any type of game boy, which version would you.. hypothetically, of course... recommend to play emulated on, say, my laptop? Any emulators you're familiar with that are maybe like pokemon specific or something? All hypothetical and for research purposes, of course.
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I never owned a Nintendo handheld before the DS, so everything before that I used an emulator for. Back in the day, VisualBoyAdvance and NO$GBA were good (for any GB, GBC, or GBA version of the game), but that was probably at least five years ago, so I have no idea what's good now, or if there any any good DS emulators around. But yeah, FireRed on either of those emulators should be fine (assuming they run on modern versions of Windows).

That said though, a second hand DS Lite is pretty cheap these days, plus with emulation you're missing out on fun stuff like trading, and the Pokewalker.


#58

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

AshburnerX said:
This is why I point and laugh whenever somebody says Pokemon is "just" a kids game. It's practically chess at this point!
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Do you know a good break down, my worst fear with the game is making the bad party choices xD

I don't even know how to start =p


#59

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Green_Lantern;409827][QUOTE=AshburnerX said:
This is why I point and laugh whenever somebody says Pokemon is "just" a kids game. It's practically chess at this point!
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Do you know a good break down, my worst fear with the game is making the bad party choices xD

I don't even know how to start =p[/QUOTE]

It's because your will to be a Pokemon master is weak.

Really, just pick your starter. Capture some Pokes. Use them to fight until you catch/obtain Pokes you like better, and try to make sure the different Pokes are of different types.

That's really it. Just pick ones you like. You don't even need to strategize in single player if you don't want to--if the enemy is too hard, just level up some more. That's how my fiancee plays all RPGs.


#60

bhamv3

bhamv3

Yep, have a balanced team with a variety of types and attacks, and you'll get through the game just fine.


#61

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I play the single player stuff and that's it, so I pick based on which types I know are pretty strong in general for progression through the game, and then which mons I think look the coolest. :awesome:


#62

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Green_Lantern;409827][QUOTE=AshburnerX said:
This is why I point and laugh whenever somebody says Pokemon is "just" a kids game. It's practically chess at this point!
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Do you know a good break down, my worst fear with the game is making the bad party choices xD

I don't even know how to start =p[/QUOTE]

Honestly, the main game is pretty simple. Here's some general tips:

- Your starter will determine how easy things are out of the gate. The Plant Type will be very good early on but less good near the end. The Water Type will be decent early on, be good longer than the Plant type, and then be average at the end. The Fire Type will be harder to use early on, but will eventually become very powerful near the end. Regardless of your choice, your starter is still going to be powerful enough that you'll probably want it in your party until you beat the game (If only because it's likely to be your highest level Pokemon).

- You will ALWAYS be able to find something to deal with your next Gym before you get to it. It might be a Pokemon in the area between the Gym and the last town or it might be from earlier on, but you'll ALWAYS have access to something that ether has moves that are Effective against the Gym's type or a base type that is resistant to it's moves. If you have trouble with a Gym or story battle, look in earlier areas, as you'll usually find something that can help.

- Don't be afraid to grind. This game is ALL about grinding once you beat the game, but up until you head for the Elite 4 you can usually get by without doing it... however, grinding CAN make some fights much simpler if you don't want to replace a favorite mon.

- Some Pokemon ARE hands down better than others, but there are no worthless Pokemon. If it seems worthless as first, it's likely there is a way to make it much better, be it via grinding, forced evolution, or equipping an item. We call it Magikarp Power for a reason. That being said, the earlier you can get a Pokemon (and the more common it is) the less useful it generally is.

- If you want some good Pokemon regardless of the game they are in, who are also generally easy to get, look no farther than the Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam psychic line and the Magikarp/Gyarados Water/Flying line. They can be found in every game, are relatively easy to get, and pay off well if you invest in them.

- The fewer Pokemon which have it's type, the stronger the type generally is. Anything with Dragon, Steel, Ground, or Ice is usually pretty good and it's hard to make a bad team using Pokemon with those types.

- Status Effects are NASTY in this game, especially Sleep, Confuse, Paralyze, and Freeze. If your Pokemon can learn a move that does any of those effects, it's usually a move worth keeping.

- Look for moves that work really well together. For instance, Garchomp is especially dangerous because it can raise it's already high Attack with Swords Dance and learns many damaging Physical moves. My favorite mon Magnezone can learn both Lock-On and Zap Cannon naturally, which means it can do serious damage AND paralyze a Pokemon 100% of the time every two turns, as long as they don't switch out. Gengar can learn LOTS of moves that will make your opponent want to switch out every turn, like Curse, Hypnosis, Toxic, and Confuse Ray... and also learns Mean Look, meaning it can PREVENT them from doing it. Lots of Pokemon are naturally built with moves that mesh well, but even more can learn lots of moves to make them even better at it.


#63

bhamv3

bhamv3

AshburnerX said:
but there are no worthless Pokemon.
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Some of them come very close though. If you come across a Pokemon called Unown, drop it from your team immediately, as it can only learn one attack, of random type and strength. Ditto is hard to use and is quite situational, so is generally not worth it for battles. (Great for breeding, though)

Apart from those guys, everything else should at least be able to hold their own, at least against the types they're strong against.


#64

Wahad

Wahad

AshburnerX said:
but there are no worthless Pokemon.
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Luvdisc would like a word with you.


#65

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Wahad;409899][QUOTE=AshburnerX said:
but there are no worthless Pokemon.
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Luvdisc would like a word with you.[/QUOTE]

It can learn Charm, Captivate, and Attract on it's own, as well as Water Pulse, which can confuse. It can also learn Toxic, Ice Beam, and Hail from TMs. Combine this with it's high natural speed and you have something that can annoy the hell out of anyone you'd fight. It's not an optimal choice, but it's far from useless.


#66

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

- The fewer Pokemon which have it's type, the stronger the type generally is. Anything with Dragon, Steel, Ground, or Ice is usually pretty good and it's hard to make a bad team using Pokemon with those types.
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The other "basic" types would be Water, Grass, Eletric, Fire, Psychic and Poison right?

I already started and choose totodile =D


#67

Gusto

Gusto

Well guys I think I need to pick up a DS.


#68

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Green_Lantern said:
- The fewer Pokemon which have it's type, the stronger the type generally is. Anything with Dragon, Steel, Ground, or Ice is usually pretty good and it's hard to make a bad team using Pokemon with those types.
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The other "basic" types would be Water, Grass, Eletric, Fire, Psychic and Poison right?

I already started and choose totodile =D
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You forgot Rock, Normal, Bug, and Dark.

And yes, Totodile was my choice in Gold/Silver as well :)


#69

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Ok so all of this is for vs other players or the main game itself?

I just want to play through the games.


#70

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Here is all you need to play through the main game, not battling other players

- A Pokemon game
- A handheld console that can play the Pokemon game
- To select a Fire, Water, or Grass type, starter Pokemon once offered to you be the professor in the game
- To choose other types of Pokemon as you travel through the game. Replace Pokemon as you see fit, but try to keep them as different types so your team is balanced.

That's it. That's all you need to know to play the game single-player.


#71

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Shegokigo said:
Ok so all of this is for vs other players or the main game itself?

I just want to play through the games.
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Most of what everyone's said is to compete in player tourneys or play others on wifi. If you want to play through the normal game just pick a starter and keep your types varied enough to always have the advantage as you progress, like escushion said.

Also, I generally pick the Fire type first, because I am hardcore.


#72

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

CynicismKills said:
Also, I generally pick the Fire type first, because I am hardcore.
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Damn straight! Brock and Misty got nothin' on Charmander.


#73

ElJuski

ElJuski

man fuck Charmander. All only learning a fire move sooooo late in the game.


Not as cute as Squirtle. >: |


#74

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Gilman Chatsworth said:
man fuck Charmander. All only learning a fire move sooooo late in the game.


Not as cute as Squirtle. >: |
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Neither are awesome as Bulbasaur is, there is a reason he is the number 01!

edit:

I confess I choose totodile, was in part because it din't looked completely retarted (really, chicorita and the fire-starter-that-I-can't-remember-the-name are totally lame)


#75

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

The chicken Fire mon is awesome, though. You get Ember early, plus it becomes a Fight secondary type.


#76

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

chicken fire? does it cooks itself?


#77

Calleja

Calleja

I'm playing FireRed... question... are attacks that lower stats stackable or just on/off? Like if I use Tail Whip three times will the defense of the foe be lowered more than if I just use it one time?

Or the other way around, a metapod that uses HARDEN 10 times is tougher than one that uses it 3 times or exactly the same as one that uses it once?


#78

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Green_Lantern said:
chicken fire? does it cooks itself?
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In this case, KFC means "Kick-Ass Fighting Chicken".

Calleja said:
I'm playing FireRed... question... are attacks that lower stats stackable or just on/off? Like if I use Tail Whip three times will the defense of the foe be lowered more than if I just use it one time?

Or the other way around, a metapod that uses HARDEN 10 times is tougher than one that uses it 3 times or exactly the same as one that uses it once?
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Status Effects and Stat Buffs/Debuffs last the entire fight unless you are told otherwise or they are cleansed somehow. There usually IS a point when it stops work though, and they usually say something like "It had no effect!" or something.


#79

Calleja

Calleja

That doesn't really answer my question, though... are they stackable?


#80

ElJuski

ElJuski

Yes.


#81

Wahad

Wahad

They are stackable. In fact, you can have six normal raises or three ''sharp'' raises. After that, it has no more effect.

Example: A Metapod uses Harden 7 times. Another Metapod uses Harden six times. They are equally tough.

Example: A Blastoise uses Tail Whip on another Blastoise, lowering its defense by 1 stat. The other blastoise uses Iron Defense, raising its defense by 2 stages. Therefore, its defense is raised by 1 stage.


#82

bhamv3

bhamv3

Go for Charmander so you can scare the hell out of opponents with the Bellyzard tactic. There was a time when every single team had a Charizard on it, that's how scary that particular tactic was. Name another starter Pokemon that had such an impact.

(Okay, other than Swampert)


#83

Calleja

Calleja

Ok.. another question. I'm playing FireRed emulated with VisualBoyAdvance... and sometimes when I'm walking I get this weird.. static thing. I first thought it was a glitch in the emulator, but it's accompanied by a sound that I think is in-game.. and my character doesn't static away, just everything else.

I don't really know how to describe it... it's like the image skips in a electronic-y way, like someone's channel swapping or something. What the fuck is that?


#84

ElJuski

ElJuski

are one of your pokemon poisoned?


#85

Calleja

Calleja

AAAH.. yes, I think they are. Is that the game's way of telling me it's getting hurt?


#86

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Calleja said:
AAAH.. yes, I think they are. Is that the game's way of telling me it's getting hurt?
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Yep.


#87

Gusto

Gusto

Hella Earthbound styles.


#88

Calleja

Calleja

Sheesh, that's a lousy way to show pokemon being poisoned outside of battle. Why not have purple bubble thing come out of my characters head or something.


#89

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Calleja said:
Sheesh, that's a lousy way to show pokemon being poisoned outside of battle. Why not have purple bubble thing come out of my characters head or something.
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Are you saying a loud, buzzing noise and the screen flashing doesn't tell YOU that something is wrong?


#90

Calleja

Calleja

It does, but if I hadn't asked here I would still have NO IDEA what it's about. The purple bubbles are a pokemon trademark of "poison", so that would be better. No, that would be GOOD, the current way SUCKS.


#91

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Calleja said:
It does, but if I hadn't asked here I would still have NO IDEA what it's about. The purple bubbles are a pokemon trademark of "poison", so that would be better. No, that would be GOOD, the current way SUCKS.
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I THINK it might happen if they are Burned too, but I don't remember. Also, keep in mind that Poison comes in more than one flavor... if your poisoned by Toxic, the damage it does is doubled each turn.


#92

Calleja

Calleja

I think I'm stuck in Cerluean City... I left it the only way I can and got to Bill's weird teleporter house thing, got a ticket for the SS whatever and... nothing. No other way to leave the city beside where I came from. There's one of those trees you can supposedly use CUT on, but I have no pokemon with the ability and have found no TMs to teach it.... what now?


#93

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

You need to head south of Cerulean to Saffron City. Then head to Vermilion and board the SS Anne. On the SS Anne is the HM that will tech you Cut. I THINK you need to get a bike to get out of Cerulean City though.


#94

Calleja

Calleja

But the bike is 1,000,000 pokeyen!! I have like ten thousand!


#95

Wahad

Wahad

You can leave Cerulean without a bike. In fact, you can get anywhere without a bike except cycling road, which is an optional route. If you have gotten Bill's ticket, go back to Cerulean, defeat Misty (if you haven't already). After that, you'll notice the police standing in front of the house where Team Rocket committed a robbery has moved. You can enter and exit through there and make your way to Vermillion by moving south.


#96

Calleja

Calleja

I defeated Misty BEFORE going up to Bill's... came back from Bill's and the cop is still in the way...?

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Oh nevermind, he's not. Thanks!


#97

Wahad

Wahad

That's weird. He's supposed to move. Are you sure you can't get in? Maybe talk to him first?

EDIT: Welp, that works.


#98

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Haha, somebody sucks at games for 10-year-olds.


#99

Calleja

Calleja

Ok, so any general tips? I chose the fossil that looks like a shell, I have a moonstone and a star piece (i think that's the name)... but I figure it's better not to sell these?


#100

ElJuski

ElJuski

*snicker* this is way too funny


#101

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Shell fossil, you'll get Omanyte later.

Moonstone is for evolving Clefairy and Jigglypuff.

Sell the star piece; that's what it's for.

Let me point you to a little site called GameFAQs.


#102

ElJuski

ElJuski

Also, as much fun as it would be to keep checking in here...

Pokemon FireRed Version FAQs, Walkthroughs, and Guides for Game Boy Advance - GameFAQs


#103

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Is exploring the ruins after violet city important? also, does anyone knows where I can find a fire-type early in the game?


#104

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

For all your 'mon hunting needs, and in case you forget weak/strengths, I suggest The Pokemon Database ~ A complete guide to the Pokemon games!. It's fast and really easy to navigate, just look up Fire types. Depending on the game you might be waiting awhile though, I know Sapphire it took until the Fire Path and that's a few hours in.

Edit: neat, I didn't know just posting a link made it put up the site's header like that.


#105

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Well, this thread got me to boot up Soul Silver after a couple months hiatus.

Not sure I like my team anymore. Quilava, Heracross, and Parasect are okay. I suppose I'll stick with Togetic for necessity. Jolteon and Vaporeon need to go.

Also, no idea what I'm doing now.

But I did just find Raikou! Woo!


#106

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I just got Rock smash, who should get it? >__<


#107

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I liked Parasect a lot in Blue, getting access to so many debilitating effects so quickly was nice. I ended up replacing him, though, I think he was too slow for me. Pretty sure Arcanine took his place.


#108

bhamv3

bhamv3

Green_Lantern said:
I just got Rock smash, who should get it? >__<
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I would suggest getting a rock smash slave, a Pokemon you usually keep in a box, and bring out specifically for areas you need to smash rocks. Unless something's changed in the newest generation, that move is so weak it's not worth using in combat.


#109

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

So I was using my HM's without thinking on Emerald and now I think I might go back to Sapphire. Loaded up my Chikorita with Strength, Cut and Rock Smash without even thinking about it. Now he's pretty much ruined.


#110

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

CynicismKills said:
So I was using my HM's without thinking on Emerald and now I think I might go back to Sapphire. Loaded up my Chikorita with Strength, Cut and Rock Smash without even thinking about it. Now he's pretty much ruined.
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Not really. Just go to the Move Deleter's house later on and delete the moves you don't want. Then, ether replace them with TM moves or get some Heart Scales and go to the Move Tutor and relearn ones Chikorita would have learned.


#111

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

AshburnerX;410302][QUOTE=CynicismKills said:
So I was using my HM's without thinking on Emerald and now I think I might go back to Sapphire. Loaded up my Chikorita with Strength, Cut and Rock Smash without even thinking about it. Now he's pretty much ruined.
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Not really. Just go to the Move Deleter's house later on and delete the moves you don't want. Then, ether replace them with TM moves or get some Heart Scales and go to the Move Tutor and relearn ones Chikorita would have learned.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, hadn't thought about that guy.


#112

Calleja

Calleja

Wow that sounds hard.

Is there such a guy in Red? FireRed. Whatever?


#113

gargoyle_eva

gargoyle_eva

Hrmmm, After reading this I kinda want to play pokemans again. So is fire red basically red version with colour? or does it have 2nd gen mons as well? I am kind of on info overload here.


#114

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

bhamv3;410269][QUOTE=Green_Lantern said:
I just got Rock smash, who should get it? >__<
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I would suggest getting a rock smash slave, a Pokemon you usually keep in a box, and bring out specifically for areas you need to smash rocks. Unless something's changed in the newest generation, that move is so weak it's not worth using in combat.[/QUOTE]

Actually in generation IV, Rock smash got a upgrade and its base power is 40, it used to be 20, as a base, note that Tackle has a base power of 35. It still has a 50% chance of reducing the target defense

I am using Bulbapedia as a guide, but it only gives "raw" information rather than direct tips. Thus why I am asking here.

I am considering give it to either Onyx or Geodude, the later has a higher level, but I wouldn't mind level up Onyx or keep it as "slave".


#115

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Calleja said:
Wow that sounds hard.

Is there such a guy in Red? FireRed. Whatever?
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They've been standard in every game since the Generation 2 games made them a necessity, as you couldn't trade via the Time Machine if your mon had a move it couldn't learn in Gen 1. I simply have no idea where they are at, as i haven't played FireRed/LeafGreen.


#116

Calleja

Calleja

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I thought the thunderbadge would give me control over pokemons above level 30! It didn't!! And ALL my party is in the 27-29 range!!! I can't level them up or they'll all stop listneing to them, won't they?!

now I have to use the FLASH HM to navigate the rock cavern and NOT level up above 30 until... when? Did I just screw my game over?


#117

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Okay, now I got cut from the farfetch quest, with who I should use it? It is another "slave" move?

Seriously, I don't want to waste neither of the "cut" and "rock smash" move >__<


#118

Wahad

Wahad

I think Meowth learns both Cut and Rocksmash. Find one (in the grass just under Cerulean), catch it, and make it your temporary hm slave


#119

Calleja

Calleja

No comment on my possibly screwing up the entire party?


#120

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Calleja said:
No comment on my possibly screwing up the entire party?
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Well, what you want we to say? "Nice Job" or "Well, next time research better" or "Well, I guess you are going to need to get a new party"?

Please select and press A.

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Wahad said:
I think Meowth learns both Cut and Rocksmash. Find one (in the grass just under Cerulean), catch it, and make it your temporary hm slave
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I am playing HeartGold, I think my only acess to cerulean will be after I beat the Elite Four.


#121

ElJuski

ElJuski

I think you guys are overthinking the fun out of this game. Calleboy, they won't immediately stop listening to you. But, if you really felt like it, just OP one of them instead of all of them. And start boosting up another pokemon.

Its that simple.


#122

Wahad

Wahad

Green_Lantern;410670][QUOTE=Calleja said:
No comment on my possibly screwing up the entire party?
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Well, what you want we to say? "Nice Job" or "Well, next time research better" or "Well, I guess you are going to need to get a new party"?

Please select and press A.

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Wahad said:
I think Meowth learns both Cut and Rocksmash. Find one (in the grass just under Cerulean), catch it, and make it your temporary hm slave
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I am playing HeartGold, I think my only acess to cerulean will be after I beat the Elite Four.[/QUOTE]

My bad! In that case I'm not sure which pokemon you can appoint as a slave, but Sentret may do the trick.


#123

Calleja

Calleja

Gilman Chatsworth said:
I think you guys are overthinking the fun out of this game. Calleboy, they won't immediately stop listening to you. But, if you really felt like it, just OP one of them instead of all of them. And start boosting up another pokemon.

Its that simple.
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What's OP?

And how far away am I from the badge that lets me control 30+?


#124

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I was thinking in using a Rattata, I have a sentret but is low leve (like 3) and I am not sure I want to drag him around.

I confess one of the reasons for not teaching the move yet is because both pokemon are... well, lame. Really, one is like mickey-mouse the other looks likes a squirrel that ate too much nuts. =p

Ice Fang is good enough to wait before evolving Totodile?

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Calleja;410730][QUOTE=Gilman Chatsworth said:
I think you guys are overthinking the fun out of this game. Calleboy, they won't immediately stop listening to you. But, if you really felt like it, just OP one of them instead of all of them. And start boosting up another pokemon.

Its that simple.
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What's OP?

And how far away am I from the badge that lets me control 30+?[/QUOTE]

Calleja meet Bulbapedia Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia

I hope you two get allong well together.


#125

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The badge that will let you control up to 50 is the Celadon City one. No your not screwed, as you can just catch another Pokemon if you DO start losing control.

Seriously guys... your playing single Player. You can't screw up your games in that. Chill the fuck out.


#126

Calleja

Calleja

I'm chilled more than the fuck out, I'm just posting asking stuff, sheesh.


#127

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Calleja said:
I'm chilled more than the fuck out, I'm just posting asking stuff, sheesh.
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Your starter will always obey you, no matter what level it is. As for other pokemon, I've never had ones I caught myself disobey me. The only mons that are in real danger of not obeying if overleveled are ones you acquire in a trade.


#128



Reboneer

Calleja said:
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I thought the thunderbadge would give me control over pokemons above level 30! It didn't!! And ALL my party is in the 27-29 range!!! I can't level them up or they'll all stop listneing to them, won't they?!

now I have to use the FLASH HM to navigate the rock cavern and NOT level up above 30 until... when? Did I just screw my game over?
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Are all of your Pokemon traded? Only traded Pokemon will stop obeying you if they level up too much.


#129

ElJuski

ElJuski

Calleja;410730][QUOTE=Gilman Chatsworth said:
I think you guys are overthinking the fun out of this game. Calleboy, they won't immediately stop listening to you. But, if you really felt like it, just OP one of them instead of all of them. And start boosting up another pokemon.

Its that simple.
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What's OP?

And how far away am I from the badge that lets me control 30+?[/QUOTE]

Overpowered. Sorry, mincing gaming terms here.


#130

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Reboneer;410832][QUOTE=Calleja said:
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I thought the thunderbadge would give me control over pokemons above level 30! It didn't!! And ALL my party is in the 27-29 range!!! I can't level them up or they'll all stop listneing to them, won't they?!

now I have to use the FLASH HM to navigate the rock cavern and NOT level up above 30 until... when? Did I just screw my game over?
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Are all of your Pokemon traded? Only traded Pokemon will stop obeying you if they level up too much.[/QUOTE]

This.

And also: Calleja, just play the damn game and stop worrying so damn much.


#131

Calleja

Calleja

Really?!?! They made such a fuzz about "OOOH this badge will let you control pokemons up to level 30!!" that I figured it..y'know.. meant something. Of course my pokemon aren't traded, I'm on an emulator! The "trading" system doesn't even work.

Oh man, this is great news, back to the gaaaaameee!!


(And no, I can't just "stop worrying", I overthink. It's what I do. I haven't been able to change that for 25 years)


#132

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

My cousins got Pokemon when they were 6-year-olds and played it fine.

You can handle it.


#133

Calleja

Calleja

Oh yeah, I know why I was so worried. Waaaaaaay back in the day I remember the Pokemon anime had Charizard NOT listening to Ash, and ignoring him. I barely even remember watching the anime, but that one stuck to me.


#134

ElJuski

ElJuski

Well focus some of that worry into those handy internet websites which teach you things :)


#135

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Calleja said:
Oh yeah, I know why I was so worried. Waaaaaaay back in the day I remember the Pokemon anime had Charizard NOT listening to Ash, and ignoring him. I barely even remember watching the anime, but that one stuck to me.
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He got that as a Charmander from another trainer.


#136

ElJuski

ElJuski

That Mankey was a piece of shit too.

And overall Ash was one of the worst trainers ever. Friendship my ass.


#137

Calleja

Calleja

Dude, his Pikachu was like an epic level legendary monster of awesome.


#138

ElJuski

ElJuski

It cheated. His other pokemon were lame.

I know this because Bananahands and his girlfriend decided to Netflix that stupid, god awful anime.

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also at one point I was ten


#139

Gusto

Gusto

To say nothing of Psyduck, Wobuffet, or Victreebell.


#140

ElJuski

ElJuski

JIGGLYPUFF ON THE OTHER HAND


#141

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Gilman Chatsworth said:
JIGGLYPUFF ON THE OTHER HAND
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DO NOT SAY THE NAME OF THAT UNHOLY SOMEOFABITCH!

>__<


#142

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Could be worse, could have any of Brock's. GO ONIoh shit he's down. GEODUUUUdamnit.


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AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Except the Geodude and Onix lines are great Tanks... which aren't very interesting to watch during a cartoon.


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