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Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd...")

#1

KCWM

KCWM

...let someone take a handful of pictures of her tits, but could not include her face or anything else incriminating. This girl is around 20 years old or so. Her thoughts were that pictures aren't that big of a deal and she's not ashamed of her body...and the thought of someone taking photos of her kind of made her hot, but not for the person taking them.

I've never really had the conversation with other girls I know (this one is a pervert for sure), but I'd find it hard to believe that most girls are the same way, so I was a bit thrown off by the conversation.

No, I do not think she has the hots for me...a) it's me and b) she doesn't like white guys.

Just an odd conversation I had yesterday that seemed fitting for this place.

And no...I will not be getting pictures. I like a handful of boob and she definitely doesn't have that.


#2

@Li3n

@Li3n

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

And no...I will not be getting pictures.
TRAITOR... we request pictures...


#3

phil

phil

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I think we can get a donation drive going.


#4

blotsfan

blotsfan



#5

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

And no...I will not be getting pictures.


#6

Cajungal

Cajungal

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?


#7

Troll

Troll

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
Wait, are you negotiating with us?


#8

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

And no...I will not be getting pictures.
TRAITOR... we request pictures...[/QUOTE]

Pics or it didn't happen?


#9

phil

phil

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Just pics of her saying it though.


#10

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...



Please? I'm still getting over a breakup.


#11

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

If you have to give her $20, you're doing it wrong.


#12



Dusty668

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I'm sorry if a mammalian extrusion is bigger then their head, it is no longer a boob but a self marking freak zone.

And keep them out of my box.


#13



Chibibar

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Pic or it didn't happen ;)


#14



Rubicon

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

If you have to give her $20, you're doing it wrong.
Theres nothing wrong with paying for it.


#15

Krisken

Krisken

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

If you have to give her $20, you're doing it wrong.
Theres nothing wrong with paying for it.[/QUOTE]
No, no, too obvious. You can't set people up with a line like that.


#16

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I can partially agree with that statement, then again we only give at the end of the night as a "thanks" even though it's not necessary. (This is in regards to strippers we take home that turn down escort opportunities to play with us) Granted we may not pay what the escort would have payed out, but we make it worth the night.


#17

KCWM

KCWM

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.

It was more of a WTF moment for me than a "hey, a chance to see pictures of boobs". There are far better boobs readily available on the internet for most, and, for some, in their own home. I've just never met someone so willing to show what they've got.

Shego...I'm torn. It's overwhelmingly likely that you take this the wrong way. /runon Either I believe the persona that you portray on this forum and therefore, I believe that you are an incredibly fucked up individual, or I think that you're about 95% bullshit and therefore, I'm fascinated by you, like the idiot rubberneckers who are so determined to look at an accident in hopes of seeing a mangled body only to have no idea what they'd do if they actually saw one. /runon


#18

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I've been accused of "personas" enough in my life. Though why my lifestyle is considered a fucked up individual is interesting enough to warrant a "Why?".


#19

Troll

Troll

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Well, that was an interesting direction for the thread. I gotta ask KCWM, what was the right way for Shego to take that last tidbit in your post? Either way it was insulting (or at least appeared so to me, obviously how Shego took it is her business).


#20

Null

Null

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I don't have $20.


#21

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Honestly guys... does it really matter if she's being honest or not? I mean seriously... I play with her all the time. It really doesn't matter to me if she's everything she says she is, as long as she's fun to spend time with. In the end, isn't that a little more important than whether her sexual exploits are real or fabricated?


#22



Rubicon

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.
[/QUOTE]

Now, I can't remember if you are the same forum member who was going through a divorce or not (sorry my memory sucks) but if you aren't...isn't it kind of a douchebag move to do something like this with another woman if you are already married? I mean, I know a lot of the more open minded forum members wouldnt consider it cheating but, some would people would, I would.


#23

Dave

Dave

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are on the internet. Pictures of boobs are free.


#24

Chippy

Chippy

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.
[/QUOTE]

Now, I can't remember if you are the same forum member who was going through a divorce or not (sorry my memory sucks) but if you aren't...isn't it kind of a douchebag move to do something like this with another woman if you are already married? I mean, I know a lot of the more open minded forum members wouldnt consider it cheating but, some would people would, I would.[/QUOTE]

Weren't you the one that had the affair with the married woman?


#25

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Chippy, we should high five sometime.


#26

Chippy

Chippy

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Allen, we should high five ALL the time.


#27



Rubicon

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.
[/QUOTE]

Now, I can't remember if you are the same forum member who was going through a divorce or not (sorry my memory sucks) but if you aren't...isn't it kind of a douchebag move to do something like this with another woman if you are already married? I mean, I know a lot of the more open minded forum members wouldnt consider it cheating but, some would people would, I would.[/QUOTE]

Weren't you the one that had the affair with the married woman?[/QUOTE]

She was already in the process of getting a divorce, filed the paperwork and everything. Plus her husband is a dick who treats her and her daughter like shit.

As far as its concerned personally, if a husband/wife are separated and/or in the process of going through a divorce, they are fair game for a relationship. If that wasn't the case, then I wouldn't have even gotten involved, I'm not into breaking up families.

Good job trolling though, cause not knowing all the details is epic win


#28



Iaculus

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.
[/quote]

Now, I can't remember if you are the same forum member who was going through a divorce or not (sorry my memory sucks) but if you aren't...isn't it kind of a douchebag move to do something like this with another woman if you are already married? I mean, I know a lot of the more open minded forum members wouldnt consider it cheating but, some would people would, I would.[/QUOTE]

She just randomly offered it to him out of nowhere. No move on his part, douchebag or otherwise.


#29

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are on the internet. Pictures of boobs are free.
If KCWM payed for them and posted them here, they would still be free for me! Yay internet!


#30

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are on the internet. Pictures of boobs are free.
Pictures of boobs of people you know are always worth more.

---------- Post added at 07:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 AM ----------

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.
[/quote]

Now, I can't remember if you are the same forum member who was going through a divorce or not (sorry my memory sucks) but if you aren't...isn't it kind of a douchebag move to do something like this with another woman if you are already married? I mean, I know a lot of the more open minded forum members wouldnt consider it cheating but, some would people would, I would.[/QUOTE]

Some people would also consider it a douchebag move to force your moralities on someone else.

Perhaps a good reading of the "is it cheating" thread is in order for you.


#31

Chippy

Chippy

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

So... $10 for one boob? $5 for just the nipple-less cleavage?
I'm talking nude tits. I was surprised that she wouldn't want more. Then again, the A's on her 5'6" frame really aren't all that much. Sorry, guys, I'm boob picky. My wife (for at least the time being) has some nice, perky D's.
[/QUOTE]

Now, I can't remember if you are the same forum member who was going through a divorce or not (sorry my memory sucks) but if you aren't...isn't it kind of a douchebag move to do something like this with another woman if you are already married? I mean, I know a lot of the more open minded forum members wouldnt consider it cheating but, some would people would, I would.[/QUOTE]

Weren't you the one that had the affair with the married woman?[/QUOTE]

She was already in the process of getting a divorce, filed the paperwork and everything. Plus her husband is a dick who treats her and her daughter like shit.

As far as its concerned personally, if a husband/wife are separated and/or in the process of going through a divorce, they are fair game for a relationship. If that wasn't the case, then I wouldn't have even gotten involved, I'm not into breaking up families.

Good job trolling though, cause not knowing all the details is epic win[/QUOTE]

Easy there, trigger. I was making sure it wasn't the blind leading the blind. I didn't know the divorce paperwork was filled out. Now that I do, I don't have a major problem with what you did.

Don't know if you'd really call all this trolling...But hey, you just keep going on with that "the whole forum's out to get me" mentality.


#32

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Chippy, we should still high five all the time.


#33

@Li3n

@Li3n

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

But hey, you just keep going on with that "the whole forum's out to get me" mentality.
It's not paranoia if we're really out to get him...

That being said: LET"S GET HIM... i'll bring the pitchforks.


#34

Chippy

Chippy

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Chippy, we should still high five all the time.
Awww yiss


#35

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I've paid more for less. :ranger:


#36

HowDroll

HowDroll

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

At a party about two weeks ago, I put my boobs on the line during a beer pong game. If I won, he paid me $20. If he won, I had to show him my boobs and let him cop a feel.

Needless to say, at the end of the night, I was $20 richer.


#37

Espy

Espy

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are on the internet. Pictures of boobs are free.
Pictures of boobs of people you know are always worth more.[/QUOTE]

You grandmother just called, she said you still owe her 50 bucks.


#38

Krisken

Krisken

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are on the internet. Pictures of boobs are free.
Pictures of boobs of people you know are always worth more.[/quote]

You grandmother just called, she said you still owe her 50 bucks.[/QUOTE]
I think I chuckled at this more than I should have. Well played.


#39

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are on the internet. Pictures of boobs are free.
Pictures of boobs of people you know are always worth more.[/quote]

You grandmother just called, she said you still owe her 50 bucks.[/QUOTE]

She's senile..she forgets I paid her right after changing her Depends, and she stuffed the money down the front of the orderly's underwear.


#40

Shannow

Shannow

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

:facepalm:


#41



Chazwozel

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

20 bucks to take pictures of tits?!?!?!? Wow, I've gotten away with free for all this time. God bless camera phones becoming cheap while I was in college.


#42

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

At a party about two weeks ago, I put my boobs on the line during a beer pong game. If I won, he paid me $20. If he won, I had to show him my boobs and let him cop a feel.

Needless to say, at the end of the night, I was $20 richer.
That, dear Droll, surely qualifies as an example of effective assets handling.


#43

Kovac

Kovac

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

At a party about two weeks ago, I put my boobs on the line during a beer pong game. If I won, he paid me $20. If he won, I had to show him my boobs and let him cop a feel.

Needless to say, at the end of the night, I was $20 richer.
As I guy I have to say that's a mighty depressing story


#44

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

At a party about two weeks ago, I put my boobs on the line during a beer pong game. If I won, he paid me $20. If he won, I had to show him my boobs and let him cop a feel.

Needless to say, at the end of the night, I was $20 richer.
As I guy I have to say that's a mighty depressing story[/QUOTE]

Well, you could always offer a crotch-grope if you lose a bet...


#45

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Well, you could always offer a crotch-grope if you lose a bet...
But the other party should get offered something they'd want for winning.


#46



Rubicon

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Chippy, we should still high five all the time.
wtf is that avatar?!?!?


#47

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Well-built dude wearing a speedo


#48

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the anime version of a Liefield character.


#49

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the anime version of a Liefield character.
Mmmm... No. The moobies aren't big enough.


#50

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

The 24-pack he's sporting is enough to qualify him.


#51

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

The 24-pack he's sporting is enough to qualify him.

That's what happens when your abs invade your chest.


#52

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Cancerous abs


#53

Null

Null

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

His abs are eating the rest of him. Proof that crunches are evil.


#54

Jay

Jay

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

At a party about two weeks ago, I put my boobs on the line during a beer pong game. If I won, he paid me $20. If he won, I had to show him my boobs and let him cop a feel.

Needless to say, at the end of the night, I was $20 richer.
I support this use.

And speaking of bewbs.



#55

Espy

Espy

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

What is that from Jay??? I must know!


#56



Philosopher B.

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

^ What he inquired. That's the best thing I've seen all day.


#57

KCWM

KCWM

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I've been accused of "personas" enough in my life. Though why my lifestyle is considered a fucked up individual is interesting enough to warrant a "Why?".
Because, the forum goers that frequent here are, for the most part, normal individuals. Yes, they have a few quirks, but idiosyncrasies are normal. Being an asshole is normal for the internet.

With you, however, it seems like a long chain of extremes. It doesn't matter what incarnation of the board it was, it always feels like I'm taking a proverbial double take at something you've posted. There's no rollarcoaster ride...there are no ups and downs. It's just balls-to-the-wall, 300 mphl extreme. In fact, it's so extreme, despite the fact that it seems one way, I have a hard time swallowing it. Maybe I'm too cynical. Maybe I'm too vanilla. Maybe the shocking things blur out the normal shit so effectively that I can't see the forest for the trees.

It was just an observation. Was it an asshole's observation? I did say that you'd probably take it the wrong way.

I don't normally go out of my way to bump heads with you. I'm sorry that I singled you out, whether you feel that way or not.

And for anyone asking if I was "the guy who did _________", no, it wasn't me.


#58

Krisken

Krisken

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I've been accused of "personas" enough in my life. Though why my lifestyle is considered a fucked up individual is interesting enough to warrant a "Why?".
Because, the forum goers that frequent here are, for the most part, normal individuals. Yes, they have a few quirks, but idiosyncrasies are normal. Being an asshole is normal for the internet.

With you, however, it seems like a long chain of extremes. It doesn't matter what incarnation of the board it was, it always feels like I'm taking a proverbial double take at something you've posted. There's no rollarcoaster ride...there are no ups and downs. It's just balls-to-the-wall, 300 mphl extreme. In fact, it's so extreme, despite the fact that it seems one way, I have a hard time swallowing it. Maybe I'm too cynical. Maybe I'm too vanilla. Maybe the shocking things blur out the normal shit so effectively that I can't see the forest for the trees.

It was just an observation. Was it an asshole's observation? I did say that you'd probably take it the wrong way.

I don't normally go out of my way to bump heads with you. I'm sorry that I singled you out, whether you feel that way or not.

And for anyone asking if I was "the guy who did __The Funky Chicken_______", no, it wasn't me.[/QUOTE]
This should be a forum game.


#59

Chad Sexington

Garbledina

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Hidden french fries:


#60



Kitty Sinatra

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

And for anyone asking if I was "the guy who did __The Funky Chicken_______", no, it wasn't me.
This should be a forum game.[/QUOTE]

Right. You remember on halfpixel when some guy _________? yeah, that was me.


#61

KCWM

KCWM

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

This should be a forum game.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


#62



The Key of J

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I've been accused of "personas" enough in my life. Though why my lifestyle is considered a fucked up individual is interesting enough to warrant a "Why?".
Because, the forum goers that frequent here are, for the most part, normal individuals. Yes, they have a few quirks, but idiosyncrasies are normal.[/QUOTE]

There's normal on the net? Somebody's been lying to me.


#63

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Unfortunately, no one addressed Ashburner's post on the subject.


#64



JCM

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

...let someone take a handful of pictures of her tits, but could not include her face or anything else incriminating. This girl is around 20 years old or so. Her thoughts were that pictures aren't that big of a deal and she's not ashamed of her body...and the thought of someone taking photos of her kind of made her hot, but not for the person taking them.

I've never really had the conversation with other girls I know (this one is a pervert for sure), but I'd find it hard to believe that most girls are the same way, so I was a bit thrown off by the conversation.

No, I do not think she has the hots for me...a) it's me and b) she doesn't like white guys.

Just an odd conversation I had yesterday that seemed fitting for this place.

And no...I will not be getting pictures. I like a handful of boob and she definitely doesn't have that.
If she threw in a boob job...... but then from your post it does seem she's not endowed enough.


#65

ElJuski

ElJuski

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

ohhhhhhhh you guys...


#66

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I've been accused of "personas" enough in my life. Though why my lifestyle is considered a fucked up individual is interesting enough to warrant a "Why?".
Because, the forum goers that frequent here are, for the most part, normal individuals. Yes, they have a few quirks, but idiosyncrasies are normal. Being an asshole is normal for the internet.

With you, however, it seems like a long chain of extremes. It doesn't matter what incarnation of the board it was, it always feels like I'm taking a proverbial double take at something you've posted. There's no rollarcoaster ride...there are no ups and downs. It's just balls-to-the-wall, 300 mphl extreme. In fact, it's so extreme, despite the fact that it seems one way, I have a hard time swallowing it. Maybe I'm too cynical. Maybe I'm too vanilla. Maybe the shocking things blur out the normal shit so effectively that I can't see the forest for the trees.

It was just an observation. Was it an asshole's observation? I did say that you'd probably take it the wrong way.

I don't normally go out of my way to bump heads with you. I'm sorry that I singled you out, whether you feel that way or not.

And for anyone asking if I was "the guy who did _________", no, it wasn't me.[/QUOTE]

Extreme is relative. One person's extreme is another person's regular thursday afternoon.

I'm not going to say I do any of the same things that Shego does, because I'm a relatively boring guy, but the activities and relationships she's talked about don't seem that unusual to me. Are they deviations from the norm? Yes, but that in itself doesn't make it deviant, especially when it's so hard to define just what 'normal' means.

And just to throw in some pointless anecdotal evidence, I've known people in far stranger, but still very healthy, relationships with even stranger 'hobbies'. And they're perfectly fine people.


#67



crono1224

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I think you are giving the benefit of the doubt, it's social norms or laws that are being violated that makes someone a deviant, now i'm pretty sure murder/torture/sex parties, aren't social norms and some of them are violation of crimes, that's a deviant right there. If you find another problem maybe you shouldn't argue against the word deviant but simply the perception of extreme. Just my 2c, and I'm not stating my views one way or another


#68

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I think you are giving the benefit of the doubt, it's social norms or laws that are being violated that makes someone a deviant, now i'm pretty sure murder/torture/sex parties, aren't social norms and some of them are violation of crimes, that's a deviant right there. If you find another problem maybe you shouldn't argue against the word deviant but simply the perception of extreme. Just my 2c, and I'm not stating my views one way or another
Crime is one of those funnt things. While the LAW is very specific in it's definition of what is and is not socially acceptable, all too often, social mores dictate more often than not. I personally find the idea of adultery reprehensible and irresponsible in the extreme, and it's a crime on the books in Georgia. Can I charge someone with it? Sure - if I don't mind the case getting tossed out on it's metaphysical ass.

While murder is (for the most part - that's another rant) pretty cut-and-dried in it's definition, torture for one person might be foreplay to another. And as for sex parties - hey, as long as it goes on behind closed doors between consenting adults, it's none of my affair. Society functions through the acceptance of the actions of those around you. In the event that those behaviors become unacceptable, you have three choices:
1) Attempt to control/regulate/stop the offending action
2) Leave
or 3) learn to become more tolerant.

Unlimited tolerance breeds anarchy. Unlimited control breeds dictatorship. Unlimited flight breeds a collapsed society. Only through finding a balance between the three does society function acceptably.

In the event of extremes, see rule 1 above. As stated, though, be prepared to figure out what is and is not extreme.


#69

Chad Sexington

Garbledina

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Okay guys, this thread was about boobs. What the what. Stop that nonsense!


#70

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

wait...someone is actually putting sex parties in the same category as murder and torture?


#71

Null

Null

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

wait...someone is actually putting sex parties in the same category as murder and torture?
Only Crono, so no, not really.


#72



crono1224

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

wait...someone is actually putting sex parties in the same category as murder and torture?
Only Crono, so no, not really.[/QUOTE]

Nice, clearly didn't actually read my post and while two things can be in the same category it doesn't mean that they have been given the same weight or even defined as the same thing, but its cool that you feel like insulting me without actually debating.


#73

Null

Null

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

wait...someone is actually putting sex parties in the same category as murder and torture?
Only Crono, so no, not really.[/QUOTE]

Nice, clearly didn't actually read my post and while two things can be in the same category it doesn't mean that they have been given the same weight or even defined as the same thing, but its cool that you feel like insulting me without actually debating.[/QUOTE]

What's to debate? You're the one who grouped them altogether without saying "While torture is one thing, sex parties are another." Someone asked if they were grouped together, and according to this:

Crono1224 said:
I think you are giving the benefit of the doubt, it's social norms or laws that are being violated that makes someone a deviant, now i'm pretty sure murder/torture/sex parties, aren't social norms and some of them are violation of crimes, that's a deviant right there. If you find another problem maybe you shouldn't argue against the word deviant but simply the perception of extreme. Just my 2c, and I'm not stating my views one way or another.
someone named Crono1224 did.

You don't state your views one way or the other, but you get defensive when you're quoted on what you did say? Nice. If you look, Tin asked if they were put in the same category. You even say that you did put them in the same category.


#74

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Yeah, that genocide, cannibalism and jaywalking are just all sorts of fucked up right there.


#75



crono1224

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the are all deviations of social norms, so it doesn't matter the extremes that they may be they are all on the side of deviant behavior, while some maybe down right horrible, they still fit in the same category of deviant, now if you want to qualify the deviation then that's fine but that doesn't invalidate my point. So just because you don't like the fact that some things can be grouped together it doesn't make it wrong. So good luck with that.


#76

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

which social norms are you referring to here, exactly? I've known groups of people where certain sexual practices are certainly the norm, whereas you label them as pretty much universally socially deviant. BTW, In none of those groups are murder and non-consensual torture considered social norms.

It's a bad analogy. So good luck with that.


#77

Denbrought

Denbrought

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

ITT: Not all people understand that words like normal and deviant are very subjective.


#78

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are all a bunch of weridos and should be in prison :p


#79

HowDroll

HowDroll

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

We'd better make sex parties a capital offense. It's the only way to be sure.


#80

Null

Null

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

We'd better make sex parties a capital offense. It's the only way to be sure.
Well, since they're apparently the same as torture and murder, they probably already are, right?


#81

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...



heh


#82

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

XD LOL


#83

blotsfan

blotsfan

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

You are all a bunch of weridos and should be in prison :p


#84

Timmus

Timmus

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

I'm a very normal person and I think sex parties are very deviant. Mainly because I am never invited to them.

:humph:


#85

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

I know for a fact that I am a perverted bastard. I just don't let normal people know that.


#86



The Key of J

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the are all deviations of social norms, so it doesn't matter the extremes that they may be they are all on the side of deviant behavior, while some maybe down right horrible, they still fit in the same category of deviant, now if you want to qualify the deviation then that's fine but that doesn't invalidate my point. So just because you don't like the fact that some things can be grouped together it doesn't make it wrong. So good luck with that.
Social norms - "the rules that a group uses for appropriate and inappropriate values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors."

Depending on the location, culture, or even a group of friends that you mingle with define new and different social norms. Even with that being said, what goes on behind closed doors seems to be an anything goes grab bag of events. Hell, get yourself in the right spiritual circle and murder could be considered a social norm.

In other words: there is no normal, it's all shades of gray painted on the side of a rolling stone. What you really should have stated was that her actions deviate from YOUR perspective on what's normal.


#87

Terrik

Terrik

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

I like how Silver Jelly's sig finishes off each of his posts perfectly.


#88

bhamv3

bhamv3

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

I know for a fact that I am a perverted bastard. I just don't let normal people know that.
Same here, except normal people always find out one way or another. Not sure why.


#89

tegid

tegid

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

It's the glasses, man!


#90

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

It's the glasses, man!
I love my glasses...

also:
I like how Silver Jelly's sig finishes off each of his posts perfectly.
:lol:


#91

tegid

tegid

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Yeah, and everyone knows you're a perv. Don't you see the correlation????


#92

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Of course! It all makes sense! Without glasses, I couldn't ogle at all women passing by because I couldn't see them!


#93

Bubble181

Bubble181

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Non-perverts ogle women while wearing sunglasses to hide their stares. Perverts wear regular glasses.


#94

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

I wear glasses, too...

WE HAVE CONFIRMATION!


#95



Chazwozel

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the are all deviations of social norms, so it doesn't matter the extremes that they may be they are all on the side of deviant behavior, while some maybe down right horrible, they still fit in the same category of deviant, now if you want to qualify the deviation then that's fine but that doesn't invalidate my point. So just because you don't like the fact that some things can be grouped together it doesn't make it wrong. So good luck with that.
Dude, just stop.


#96



crono1224

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the are all deviations of social norms, so it doesn't matter the extremes that they may be they are all on the side of deviant behavior, while some maybe down right horrible, they still fit in the same category of deviant, now if you want to qualify the deviation then that's fine but that doesn't invalidate my point. So just because you don't like the fact that some things can be grouped together it doesn't make it wrong. So good luck with that.
Social norms - "the rules that a group uses for appropriate and inappropriate values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors."

Depending on the location, culture, or even a group of friends that you mingle with define new and different social norms. Even with that being said, what goes on behind closed doors seems to be an anything goes grab bag of events. Hell, get yourself in the right spiritual circle and murder could be considered a social norm.

In other words: there is no normal, it's all shades of gray painted on the side of a rolling stone. What you really should have stated was that her actions deviate from YOUR perspective on what's normal.[/QUOTE]

So the definition of normal varies between micro and macro scales? Thats fine I never was arguing that, but lets use this forum as the group, and I would even say sex parties is out of the norm for most of us, so I fail to see how its not deviant behavior when its put in the context of halforum members.


#97



JCM

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the are all deviations of social norms, so it doesn't matter the extremes that they may be they are all on the side of deviant behavior, while some maybe down right horrible, they still fit in the same category of deviant, now if you want to qualify the deviation then that's fine but that doesn't invalidate my point. So just because you don't like the fact that some things can be grouped together it doesn't make it wrong. So good luck with that.
Social norms - "the rules that a group uses for appropriate and inappropriate values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors."

Depending on the location, culture, or even a group of friends that you mingle with define new and different social norms. Even with that being said, what goes on behind closed doors seems to be an anything goes grab bag of events. Hell, get yourself in the right spiritual circle and murder could be considered a social norm.

In other words: there is no normal, it's all shades of gray painted on the side of a rolling stone. What you really should have stated was that her actions deviate from YOUR perspective on what's normal.[/QUOTE]

So the definition of normal varies between micro and macro scales? Thats fine I never was arguing that, but lets use this forum as the group, and I would even say sex parties is out of the norm for most of us, so I fail to see how its not deviant behavior when its put in the context of halforum members.[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself, instead of generalising for an entire forum?

I myself have had no problems with sex parties, and even have participated in a few in different countries. Like K of J said, her actions deviate from YOUR perspective on what's normal.


#98

Seraphyn

Seraphyn

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

For what it's worth, I never participated in sex parties, nor am I ever planning to because it just seems weird to me.

I think it's actually quite safe to assume that most people don't, else there'd be posters everywhere announcing the hottest sex parties tonight. So going from the entire earth's populace, it's probably viewed as deviant behaviour by a majority.
It is of course not a crime and should never be put in the same category. Whatever floats your boat.


#99



JCM

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

For what it's worth, I never participated in sex parties, nor am I ever planning to because it just seems weird to me.

I think it's actually quite safe to assume that most people don't, else there'd be posters everywhere announcing the hottest sex parties tonight. So going from the entire earth's populace, it's probably viewed as deviant behaviour by a majority.
It is of course not a crime and should never be put in the same category. Whatever floats your boat.
Just a few observations-

a)The definition of "deviant" is - adj. Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society, not differing from the taste of the majority, otherwise eating with a spoon and fork would be deviant behavior, as most people in the world eat with their hands or chopsticks, so the "is most dont do it = its deviant" isn't quite true.

b)People who participate in them dont announce every time when they are going to one.

c)However, if we go by some society and their rules and what they consider normal, yes, it can be considered deviant behavior, and sadly, in some societies, a crime punishable by death (see Iran and the Middle East)


#100

ElJuski

ElJuski

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

So this one episode of Chowder right, the're all like, "ewww ugly woman has a dirty picture of somethig" and it was her eating toe jam with a fork. The punchline was that the fork was the gross part; eating toe jam with a spoon was way not bad.

HEE HEE


#101

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

More like the are all deviations of social norms, so it doesn't matter the extremes that they may be they are all on the side of deviant behavior, while some maybe down right horrible, they still fit in the same category of deviant, now if you want to qualify the deviation then that's fine but that doesn't invalidate my point. So just because you don't like the fact that some things can be grouped together it doesn't make it wrong. So good luck with that.
Social norms - "the rules that a group uses for appropriate and inappropriate values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors."

Depending on the location, culture, or even a group of friends that you mingle with define new and different social norms. Even with that being said, what goes on behind closed doors seems to be an anything goes grab bag of events. Hell, get yourself in the right spiritual circle and murder could be considered a social norm.

In other words: there is no normal, it's all shades of gray painted on the side of a rolling stone. What you really should have stated was that her actions deviate from YOUR perspective on what's normal.[/QUOTE]

So the definition of normal varies between micro and macro scales? Thats fine I never was arguing that, but lets use this forum as the group, and I would even say sex parties is out of the norm for most of us, so I fail to see how its not deviant behavior when its put in the context of halforum members.[/QUOTE]

Any sex is deviant behavior for most of the members.


#102



Kitty Sinatra

So, this chick said that for $20 she'd...

Any sex is deviant behavior for most of the members.
That's mean, man. Why you gotta be so mean?


#103

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Show me a person who nobody thinks is deviant in some fashion, and I'll show you a person who is dead.


#104

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

If anyone is dead and still posting here, that may be considered deviant.


#105

KCWM

KCWM

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

the new direction of this thread makes me chuckle every time.


#106



Iaculus

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Show me a person who nobody thinks is deviant in some fashion, and I'll show you a person who is dead.
Depends on whether they ticked the 'Open to Necrophilia' clause in their will, I sez.


#107

Gusto

Gusto

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Tittaaaaay.


#108



JCM

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Show me a person who nobody thinks is deviant in some fashion, and I'll show you a person who is dead.
Depends on whether they ticked the 'Open to Necrophilia' clause in their will, I sez.[/QUOTE]I did see once an anime of a dude having sex with body organs of dead people, so theres also that option.


#109

Null

Null

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Show me a person who nobody thinks is deviant in some fashion, and I'll show you a person who is dead.
Depends on whether they ticked the 'Open to Necrophilia' clause in their will, I sez.[/QUOTE]I did see once an anime of a dude having sex with body organs of dead people, so theres also that option.[/QUOTE]

Oh, stop that talk, Chewie. You'll just turn Crono on even more.


#110



JCM

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Show me a person who nobody thinks is deviant in some fashion, and I'll show you a person who is dead.
Depends on whether they ticked the 'Open to Necrophilia' clause in their will, I sez.[/QUOTE]I did see once an anime of a dude having sex with body organs of dead people, so theres also that option.[/QUOTE]

Oh, stop that talk, Chewie. You'll just turn Crono on even more.[/QUOTE]
Nnnargh hgraoo rrhaa? Hnaarr oorrawarr...


#111

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Does this make JCM's kid Lumpy now? God, I hope we never get to see their Christmas videos. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir...


#112

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

I'm sure the kid will have enough hair. :slywink:


#113



JCM

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Does this make JCM's kid Lumpy now? God, I hope we never get to see their Christmas videos. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir...
*remembers Star Wars Holiday Special*

May you burn in hell, kind sir, for making me remember the special after years of therapy and avoiding Star Wars movie nights.


#114

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Social norms and normal vs. deviant (was "so this chick said that for $20, she'd.

Does this make JCM's kid Lumpy now? God, I hope we never get to see their Christmas videos. Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir...
*remembers Star Wars Holiday Special*

May you burn in hell, kind sir, for making me remember the special after years of therapy and avoiding Star Wars movie nights.[/QUOTE]

Only if you make room up there on the top bench. I like to have myself a scalding hot sauna...


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