Who the hell is this little kid wearing a Picard Halloween costume? I wanna strangle him 
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Star Trek TNG: Rascals 6x07 (17 years late...)
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:wha: I followed the link and still have no idea what you are talking about. I saw no costumes, or cluetrails. Waiter, I need a quick round of cluebatting with a side of clarity please.
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Picard, Ro Laren and Guinan get transformed into young teenagers which leads them into some hijinks aboard the ship, such as Picard still trying to assume leadership or Guinan and Ro acting like kids, jumping on beds etc.David said:Who the * is this little kid wearing a Picard Halloween costume? I wanna strangle him
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Alright episode but not one of their funnier comedy episodes imho.
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From that wiki article..
You've obviously seen that episode of ST:TNG, and also went to the length of looking up the actor on IMDb, so my question is, what, exactly is your point?David said:Who the * is this little kid wearing a Picard Halloween costume? I wanna strangle him
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My point was that they could have gotten a better actor to play Picard as a kid. The one they had annoyed the hell out of me.Bowielee said:You've obviously seen that episode of ST:TNG, and also went to the length of looking up the actor on IMDb, so my question is, what, exactly is your point?David said:Who the * is this little kid wearing a Picard Halloween costume? I wanna strangle him
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GasBandit
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Yes, because the computer (from the holodeck or whatever) has a pattern for a goat. They could use your component energy and reform it into a goat. Not your brain in a goat. Not your brain in a child version of yourself. A goat. There is no saved "pattern" for "picard as a child but with all of adult picard's memories and thought patterns intact."@Li3n said:
That's why i said: "well the atoms at least"...GasBandit said:
Of course as Trek computers can simulate a personality in full (The Doctor from Voy) they might not actually need to use a static pattern of a goat, and just be able to photoshop it... how it would actually fit a himan brain in the head of a goat... i'm thinking giant comic book brain lobe head... (granted, i'm not that deep into ST lore to know exactly how they justified the teleporter, so i could be wrong).
GasBandit
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They can't do that, since the computer doesn't know how to keep a goat body from rejecting a human head, much less "interface" the two systems together, because humans don't either. The computer has to use a complete pattern. Using incomplete patterns has often had wildly unpredictable results... often making whatever matter was transported come out warped or "runny."
eh, your argument is a bit beside the point. imo, the big factual problem with this episode is that the "glitch" is unrealistic. another transporter accident episode is always intolerable, but it is less palatable when the premise makes no sense; why does the computer mess up in such a fashion as to create children with adult minds?GasBandit said:
in fact, that's a big problem with all the "transporter accident" episodes. Considering all the possible configurations of the atoms in transit the chances are basically a billion trillion to one against the result being anything other than a pile of slime.
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That was kinda my point, but alien had to trigger my "I know more trek tech than you, way more than any person should actually" conditioned response... so it veered off that way.
A "transporter accident" would 99.9% of the time result in the failure of anything at all to materialize. The rest of that 10th of a percent would be split between targeting issues (rematerializing inside something else, instant death), and partial rematerialization, ranging from a puddle of slime to a puddle of slime with the odd bodypart sticking out of it.
But yes, transporter accidents as plot instigators are a horrible crutch they abused many a time. Don't even get me started on the "there are now two rikers" episode.
A "transporter accident" would 99.9% of the time result in the failure of anything at all to materialize. The rest of that 10th of a percent would be split between targeting issues (rematerializing inside something else, instant death), and partial rematerialization, ranging from a puddle of slime to a puddle of slime with the odd bodypart sticking out of it.
But yes, transporter accidents as plot instigators are a horrible crutch they abused many a time. Don't even get me started on the "there are now two rikers" episode.
This is the same computer that can make a self aware version of Moriarty based on nothing but a short description in a detective novel.... and it doesn't even lag...GasBandit said:
And you're also assuming people in the future won't figure out how to put a human brain in a goat too... which is just naive....
And i'm not arguing against the fact that in RL a transporter that worked on those principles glitching would result in gooification.... just that unlikely (and stupid) != impossible....
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Making a personality simulation self aware is not a great leap. If anything, the computer has to work harder to keep the personalities ignorant of their own status. The big hurdle was turning data into a believable personality, and that threshold has already been mantled.@Li3n said:
Nowhere in any star trek canon have they ever discussed the capability to graft human brains into animals. In fact, that exact sort of experimentation and practice would be extremely illegal under several federation laws, not the least of which is the law against genetic modification.
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