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I wonder if the data on the chart is accurate

277 deaths in Europe? Thank you so much... I had just started to feel a little safer. And you blew it.

I know we're not talking about some new strand of Ebola here, but the whole swine flu thing still freaks me out...

OH GOD LEPROSY IS ON THE RISE

CynicismKills said:

OH GOD LEPROSY IS ON THE RISE

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Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the treatment doesn't cost an arm and a leg anymore, does it?

North_Ranger;286601][quote=CynicismKills said:

OH GOD LEPROSY IS ON THE RISE

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Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the treatment doesn't cost an arm and a leg anymore, does it?[/QUOTE]

I believe it's still excruciatingly painful though.

Oh, most certainly. If only people would lend a helping hand...

North_Ranger said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the treatment doesn't cost an arm and a leg anymore, does it?

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Keep it to the Walmart thread. We don't need this topic falling apart too.



And this graph just confirms my belief that swine flu's been really, really overblown. Doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it, but my GOD, we've given it way too much attention.

Nile;286609][quote=North_Ranger said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the treatment doesn't cost an arm and a leg anymore, does it?

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Keep it to the Walmart thread. We don't need this topic falling apart too.



And this graph just confirms my belief that swine flu's been really, really overblown. Doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it, but my GOD, we've given it way too much attention.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I'm just shooting my mouth off here. No skin off my back, right?

North_Ranger said:

Oh, most certainly. If only people would lend a helping hand...

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"Alright boys, we're having an IMAGINARY CHRISTMAS this year!"

North_Ranger said:

277 deaths in Europe? Thank you so much... I had just started to feel a little safer. And you blew it.

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277 out of ~ 500.000.000 ...

Canada is up to 95 deaths per http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/surveillance-eng.php.

So the chart seems relatively accurate so far.

AshburnerX;286604][quote=North_Ranger;286601][quote=CynicismKills said:

OH GOD LEPROSY IS ON THE RISE

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Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the treatment doesn't cost an arm and a leg anymore, does it?[/QUOTE]

I believe it's still excruciatingly painful though.[/QUOTE]

I thought it was exactly the opposite -- makes it so you don't feel pain.

The "fact" floating around here is that regular old influenza still kills more people than the swine flu. Not sure how accurate that is, seeing as how it's not on the chart.

CONFIRMED:

The number of seasonal influenza-associated (i.e., seasonal flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of seasonal flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States.

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So, the US has what, less than swine flu 600 deaths in a year? Versus an average of 36 fucking thousand.

God, I hate hype.

I have spent all this week with this swine flu thing and I'm alive... It wasn't even all that terrible! Just 5 days of fever.

OH MY GOD

It's the second lowest thing on the chart!!

WE'RE ALL FUCKING DOOMED!

I like how the chart is emphasizing the Swine Flu like it's OMGHOLYSHIT deadly, but it just makes me laugh and worry about that there cardiovascular.

Yes, swine flu, just like SARS in its days, is horribly overblown. It's less deadly than regular flu, even, just more contagious. Oh well.

I am not to worried about the swine flu I think that most of it has been blown out of proportions for various of reasons.

But it's killing us young people and not those cranky old people the regular flu kills off for us.

Well given the average intelligence and upbringing of today's youth I will go out on a limb and say no loss.






(p.s. for you over sensitive types that was just meant as a joke)

I try to read a lot of stuff on this. My mother in law is a nurse and she claims it is "pretty bad" but when I look at yearly statistics of swine flu vs regular flu, the death rate is totally skew toward the regular flu.

When I have the flu, it usually last for 1-3 days, but swine flu is 5+ days right?

doomdragon6 said:

OH MY GOD

It's the second lowest thing on the chart!!

WE'RE ALL FUCKING DOOMED!

I like how the chart is emphasizing the Swine Flu like it's OMGHOLYSHIT deadly, but it just makes me laugh and worry about that there cardiovascular.

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Er, I think the chart is trying to show that it isn't as deadly and the hype associated with it is overblown - at least I think that's what it's trying to do in a kind of ironic way.

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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you know, I never understood that. Part of me thinks that people believes that your body should be able to handle any illness, but history has shown that medicine has been use (via various means from leeches to herbs) to cure many ills. Vaccine is not any different.

Maybe people think that too much medication is bad and your body won't know how to defend itself (I kinda believe this) I usually take medicine when I really have to. I won't start taking cough syrup for a light cough but I will drink extra water and rest more.

Chibibar;286949][quote=Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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you know, I never understood that. Part of me thinks that people believes that your body should be able to handle any illness, but history has shown that medicine has been use (via various means from leeches to herbs) to cure many ills. Vaccine is not any different.

Maybe people think that too much medication is bad and your body won't know how to defend itself (I kinda believe this) I usually take medicine when I really have to. I won't start taking cough syrup for a light cough but I will drink extra water and rest more.[/QUOTE]

The government is using the vaccine as a cover to inject us with a tracking microchip. That combined with the census will ensure the government knows everything we do and when. It's also why I don't have a mailing address or file my taxes.

Shakey;286954][quote=Chibibar;286949][quote=Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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you know, I never understood that. Part of me thinks that people believes that your body should be able to handle any illness, but history has shown that medicine has been use (via various means from leeches to herbs) to cure many ills. Vaccine is not any different.

Maybe people think that too much medication is bad and your body won't know how to defend itself (I kinda believe this) I usually take medicine when I really have to. I won't start taking cough syrup for a light cough but I will drink extra water and rest more.[/QUOTE]

The government is using the vaccine as a cover to inject us with a tracking microchip. That combined with the census will ensure the government knows everything we do and when. It's also why I don't have a mailing address or file my taxes.[/QUOTE]

heh.. I hope you are kidding about the taxes. You don't wanna mess with the IRS

Chibibar;286961][quote=Shakey;286954][quote=Chibibar;286949][quote=Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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you know, I never understood that. Part of me thinks that people believes that your body should be able to handle any illness, but history has shown that medicine has been use (via various means from leeches to herbs) to cure many ills. Vaccine is not any different.

Maybe people think that too much medication is bad and your body won't know how to defend itself (I kinda believe this) I usually take medicine when I really have to. I won't start taking cough syrup for a light cough but I will drink extra water and rest more.[/QUOTE]

The government is using the vaccine as a cover to inject us with a tracking microchip. That combined with the census will ensure the government knows everything we do and when. It's also why I don't have a mailing address or file my taxes.[/QUOTE]

heh.. I hope you are kidding about the taxes. You don't wanna mess with the IRS [/QUOTE]

I was joking about all of it.

Shakey;286972][quote=Chibibar;286961][quote=Shakey;286954][quote=Chibibar;286949][quote=Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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you know, I never understood that. Part of me thinks that people believes that your body should be able to handle any illness, but history has shown that medicine has been use (via various means from leeches to herbs) to cure many ills. Vaccine is not any different.

Maybe people think that too much medication is bad and your body won't know how to defend itself (I kinda believe this) I usually take medicine when I really have to. I won't start taking cough syrup for a light cough but I will drink extra water and rest more.[/QUOTE]

The government is using the vaccine as a cover to inject us with a tracking microchip. That combined with the census will ensure the government knows everything we do and when. It's also why I don't have a mailing address or file my taxes.[/QUOTE]

heh.. I hope you are kidding about the taxes. You don't wanna mess with the IRS [/QUOTE]

I was joking about all of it.[/QUOTE]
To late, your audit is in the mail. It will be there on...nevermind, the Postal Service already lost it.

THIS! IS! SWINE FLU!

Chibibar said:

When I have the flu, it usually last for 1-3 days, but swine flu is 5+ days right?

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yup!

Chibibar;286949][quote=Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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you know, I never understood that. Part of me thinks that people believes that your body should be able to handle any illness, but history has shown that medicine has been use (via various means from leeches to herbs) to cure many ills. Vaccine is not any different.

Maybe people think that too much medication is bad and your body won't know how to defend itself (I kinda believe this) I usually take medicine when I really have to. I won't start taking cough syrup for a light cough but I will drink extra water and rest more.[/QUOTE]

It's true that continued over-use of anti-biotics has generated super-strong bacteria as part of evolution, but that isn't all medicines.

Well, I don't know what I got, but damned if I'm not sick as hell. Freaking fever dreams and semi-minutely bathroom trips. Can't keep this compress on my head cold enough and I've got the "Denver, the last Dinosaur" theme stuck on repeat in my head.

Adammon said:

Well, I don't know what I got, but damned if I'm not sick as hell. Freaking fever dreams and semi-minutely bathroom trips. Can't keep this compress on my head cold enough and I've got the \"Denver, the last Dinosaur\" theme stuck on repeat in my head.

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Let's see if we can get it unstuck.







If none of these work... look for a shotgun and shells.

Yeah; one of my professors got swine flu. It wasn't fun--he said that all the symptoms (diarrhea, fever, nausea, coughing, joint pain, etc) came on within about fifteen minutes--but he recovered in a few days. Nothing to be terrified about.

mr_thehun;287599][quote=Shakey said:

The government is using the vaccine as a cover to inject us with a tracking microchip. That combined with the census will ensure the government knows everything we do and when. It's also why I don't have a mailing address or file my taxes.

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They already can do that with cellphones. Seriously. People can do freaky shit with cellphones these days. (Like listen through the microphone on you cell even when it's off, get alerted when you dial certain numbers so you can listen in on the conversation, pinpoint your location to within a couple of meters, watch through your camera on your phone even when it's not in use. and there isn't a damn thing you can do to stop people from doing this except don't use your cellphone)

I'm not crazy!!!![/QUOTE]

At least my cell doesn't have a camera. Now, to get a cellphone without a microphone may be more difficult...

Plus, they can use it as a high frequency sonar device that breaks all rules of wave reflection to perfectly image an entire room with absolutely no noise or multiple reflection problems, according to hollywood.

fade said:

Plus, they can use it as a high frequency sonar device that breaks all rules of wave reflection to perfectly image an entire room with absolutely no noise or multiple reflection problems, according to hollywood.

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If you're implying that Batman is wrong (and I think you are) then sir, I don't want to be right.

Chazwozel;287658][quote=fade said:

Plus, they can use it as a high frequency sonar device that breaks all rules of wave reflection to perfectly image an entire room with absolutely no noise or multiple reflection problems, according to hollywood.

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If you're implying that Batman is wrong (and I think you are) then sir, I don't want to be right.[/QUOTE]

hehe.. I just love movie science. It just breaks all the rules but still fun to watch.

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Wow.... Gitmo prisoner gets swine flu shots before general population
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cb_guantanamo_swine_flu_vaccine;_ylt=AgVDTO6ybs7vTRhwjcLfLoR0fNdF

I figure I'll put it in here since we are talking about swine flu.

The main thing that is misleading about that poster is that this round of swine flu has only been around 300 days. Most of these other diseases have been killing for decades, centuries or millennia.

Compare H1N1 to the other diseases on the list and see how many have been infected in the last 300 days. I can only think of one time in 20 years that a local school has been shut down because there were too many students and teachers sick with the flu to make it feasible to open. It has happened twice this year alone, to multiple campuses in this small town.

sixpackshaker said:

The main thing that is misleading about that poster is that this round of swine flu has only been around 300 days. Most of these other diseases have been killing for decades, centuries or millennia.

Compare H1N1 to the other diseases on the list and see how many have been infected in the last 300 days. I can only think of one time in 20 years that a local school has been shut down because there were too many students and teachers sick with the flu to make it feasible to open. It has happened twice this year alone, to multiple campuses in this small town.

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Where as not a single school in my district has shut down. It happens.

Twitch;287925][quote=sixpackshaker said:

The main thing that is misleading about that poster is that this round of swine flu has only been around 300 days. Most of these other diseases have been killing for decades, centuries or millennia.

Compare H1N1 to the other diseases on the list and see how many have been infected in the last 300 days. I can only think of one time in 20 years that a local school has been shut down because there were too many students and teachers sick with the flu to make it feasible to open. It has happened twice this year alone, to multiple campuses in this small town.

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Where as not a single school in my district has shut down. It happens.[/QUOTE]

Had at least one close here in Ohio. Hospitals (or mine at least) are forbidding anyone younger than 16 onto the premises unless it's emergency care or to get a vaccine.

sixpackshaker said:

Compare H1N1 to the other diseases on the list and see how many have been infected in the last 300 days. I can only think of one time in 20 years that a local school has been shut down because there were too many students and teachers sick with the flu to make it feasible to open. It has happened twice this year alone, to multiple campuses in this small town.

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It's almost as if we have gotten used to them... even if they do kill a lot of people every year and infect countless more (swine flu is new, so we dont know it well enough and it's somewhat drug immune).

Plus, those figures seem small for overall deaths for the last couple of decades, let alone all time...

Alberta's getting hit really bad with it right now. Some schools have as much as a 30% Hamthrax infection rate and the provincial government has fumbled the vaccination plan so badly that they just up and closed all the vaccination centers in the province for the last half week or so.

Some A-1 governing going on here. Yay, party in power for life Conservatives.

Well, I woke up murderously sick today with swine-fluish symptoms. Coincidence? I think not. Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeergh.

@Li3n said:

Plus, those figures seem small for overall deaths for the last couple of decades, let alone all time...

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It is not for all time it is for the last 300 days. I am just saying that the infection rate is high for such a 'young' virus. The seasonal flu kills 1000's a year, but it crops up so often, and is so widely spread already. This is basically a single point of contact and has spread across the globe and has killed many in less than a year. Flu season has not really gotten underway and the infection rates will likely go up even more.

Yes, so far this is not the killer we have feared (or the media has fear mongered.) But just look at the hit that this can put on the economy where people are down for at least a week at a time, instead of 3 days for normal flu recovery.

sixpackshaker;289964][quote=@Li3n said:

Plus, those figures seem small for overall deaths for the last couple of decades, let alone all time...

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It is not for all time it is for the last 300 days. I am just saying that the infection rate is high for such a 'young' virus. The seasonal flu kills 1000's a year, but it crops up so often, and is so widely spread already. This is basically a single point of contact and has spread across the globe and has killed many in less than a year. Flu season has not really gotten underway and the infection rates will likely go up even more.

Yes, so far this is not the killer we have feared (or the media has fear mongered.) But just look at the hit that this can put on the economy where people are down for at least a week at a time, instead of 3 days for normal flu recovery.[/QUOTE]

Yea. I still think it is a little over hyped, but I guess the virus could mutate to a deadly form if "merge" with bird flu but to human. Then it gets scary.

Oh lord, I'm so uncomfortable. My skin's either on fire or I'm so cold I shake uncontrollably. My legs have these waves of agony going through them. My head is about to explode (something my ass and stomache has multiple times).

This is the worst flu I've ever had by a million miles.

Tell the rookie to go get you some chicken soup.

Frankie said:

Alberta's getting hit really bad with it right now. Some schools have as much as a 30% Hamthrax infection rate and the provincial government has fumbled the vaccination plan so badly that they just up and closed all the vaccination centers in the province for the last half week or so.

Some A-1 governing going on here. Yay, party in power for life Conservatives.

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well, at least the rich people and professional athletes here will survive. god bless capitalism.

but yeah, i walked in to school yesterday and not only was everyone coughing, but (i shit you not) some of my classes were less than half full.

woke up this morning with a slightly sore throat and was like "fuck that", so i stayed home.

Been off for three days. Office pandemic plan says that if I have any visible symptoms, I'm not to come into work. Good thing is though that three of us got it once, so that'll be three of us that'll be okay starting next week when the rest of the office gets it.

sixpackshaker;289964][quote=@Li3n said:

Plus, those figures seem small for overall deaths for the last couple of decades, let alone all time...

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It is not for all time it is for the last 300 days. I am just saying that the infection rate is high for such a 'young' virus. The seasonal flu kills 1000's a year, but it crops up so often, and is so widely spread already. This is basically a single point of contact and has spread across the globe and has killed many in less than a year. Flu season has not really gotten underway and the infection rates will likely go up even more.

Yes, so far this is not the killer we have feared (or the media has fear mongered.) But just look at the hit that this can put on the economy where people are down for at least a week at a time, instead of 3 days for normal flu recovery.[/QUOTE]

There no one seasonal flu virus... and with modern transportation most flues (sp?) probably spread as fast (how long does it take for one to get sick from normal flu once near someone that's infectious?). Plus, some argue that millions more are infected but the symptoms are no worse then a normal cold, so they don't get tested for it.

The fear is that not having effective drugs for it if it mutates to become more deadly we won't be able to do much about it... and that is the most rational reason to get vaccinated.

I tried to go into work today and I was sent home. *sigh*

If I can't be miserable with people, what's the point of being miserable?!

The city health service is organizin' swine flu shots these weeks. Next week, I'm one of those who are advised to get the shot (being obese). Gonna call the University hospital tomorrow and get the appointment.

Got my vaccine today; my school was offering them free for students and faculty, so I figured 'why not'. Like I said, a professor I've had for several classes (and has never missed a class) missed a class because it simply knocked him on his ass, so--overblown media hysteria or not--I'd prefer to avoid that.

Rob King said:

I half hope that swine flu is worse than anyone could have possibly expected, just to cull these "Vaccine = Evil" anti-intellectual motherfuckers.

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I won't get the swine-flu vac or the "regular" flu vac. Only 4 years, and it was four years in a row, I have had the flu was while I was in the military and we were required to get the shot each year.

It's not Vaccine = Evil, it's more Vaccine = sick. I'll stick to my stupidly resilient immune system that even fought off the measles.

Man, I'm starting the road to recovery I believe. The fever has broken, I'm no longer delirious and I can keep food down.

Man, Hinny sucks balls.

Just got my shot. I'm already feeling the headache, so I guess the rest of the side effects will be comin' along shortly. So don't mind me if I suddenly stop making any kind of sensibility. I appropriate that Doonesbury will gas in a dime. Pineapple Clementine at Sacramento bordello, particle accelerator dreaming vaporous blocks...

*falls asleep* Zzzzzzzz....

HATS!

Zzzzzz...