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Teens Trash Ex-NFL Player's Home, Parents plan to Sue

#1

figmentPez

figmentPez

Teens Trash Ex-NFL Player's Home And Parents Are Mad At Him?

More than 300 teenagers in Albany, NY broke into the vacation home of former NFL player Brian Holloway. They did $20,000 dollars in damage, including spray painting, knocking holes in walls, peeing on carpets and stealing the headstone of his deceased grandson, who died at birth.

Holloway publicized the pictures that teens posted to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and elsewhere, and now the parents of those teens are planning to sue him for ruining their chances at getting into college.

What the hell?


#2

PatrThom

PatrThom

What is it about him that would cause three hundred teenagers to decide this was a good idea?

--Patrick


#3

Dave

Dave

The thing is, they were right. He was actually pretty cool about it. But the parents are fucking morons.


#4

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I can see mob mentality causing some harm, but this isn't even close to that. It's just apathy.

My folks would have had me at that man's house from sun up to sun down until all was well. They would have likely taken me to the police too. I know from experience.


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Anonymous

figmentPez said:
now the parents of those teens are planning to sue him for ruining their chances at getting into college.

What the hell?
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Entitlement.


#6

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Gee, you'd think massive vandalizing and subsequent criminal records would ruin or at least threaten their university chances.


#7

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

We see this once every so often - large house parties at vacant houses.

I think Holloway is handling this with extreme class - even forwarding an opportunity for the kids to come forward, apologize, and do a little cleanup as reparations.

He's not publishing anything that the kids have not published themselves, tossing it up onto the 'net without considering the implications.

Their lawsuit won't stand, because he's not bringing forward any additional information: he's merely showing what was already there.

Props to the kids who weren't even associated with the party who came forward and cleaned up. And a courteous but stern nod to the one kid who WAS there, who came and helped with the cleanup.


#8

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Around the time of that Project X movie, there was an even larger party in an unoccupied mansion in Houston... it was like a fortress. 1,000 kids and a murder to boot. I don't remember how much damage was done, but they filled a large part of the mansion with foam.


#9

Dei

Dei

I think this says a lot about kids and social media today too. NO SHIT YOU GOT CAUGHT YOU POSTED EVERYONE'S PICTURES ALL OVER TWITTER YOU DUMB SHITS!!!!


#10

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

"But but but... they can't look at them! They're MY photos! You can't see them without a warrant, right?"

"..... Suuuuuuuuuure. Please keep thinking that."


#11

GasBandit

GasBandit

There's not a great number of things that disgust me more than trying to shield the unrepentantly stupid from the consequences of their actions.


#12

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Officer_Charon said:
"But but but... they can't look at them! They're MY photos! You can't see them without a warrant, right?"

"..... Suuuuuuuuuure. Please keep thinking that."
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this, unironically, the cops should have to get a warrant to see anything on your private corner of the internet / Facebook


#13

Dei

Dei

Too bad nothing they posted was set to private. :p


#14

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

If your profile is private, we do. However, if you put it out there on a public page, or you're tagged and the image is out there in the public domain, then it falls under the "public view" standpoint - anything you do within the public view, even if you're doing it inside your home (i.e. having sex in front of open blinds where anyone in public could see your actions) is considered chargeable. There is no expectation of privacy if you're putting it out there on display.


#15

GasBandit

GasBandit

Charlie Don't Surf said:
this, unironically, the cops should have to get a warrant to see anything on your private corner of the internet / Facebook
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Fun fact - facebook's "public" stuff is not your private property. Thus, no warrant is needed.

And even for the private stuff, which may or may not need a warrant, that warrant would be served to facebook, not to you, and you might not even know about it.


#16

strawman

strawman

Besides which, the government has worked pretty hard to prove that metadata which businesses own can be obtained without warrant. So the actual content of the pictures and posts might require a warrant (unless it was gathered through other public methods) but what device you posted with, where you posted from, when you posted, and anyone you included or tagged in the post might be eligible for discovery, even if posted privately, without a warrant.



#17

evilmike

evilmike

The first six arrests. More arrests are expected.


#18

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

I really, REALLY like the way he's handling this.

"You don't want the carrot? It's a really good carrot... fair enough. Time for the stick."


#19

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

stienman said:
Besides which, the government has worked pretty hard to prove that metadata which businesses own can be obtained without warrant. So the actual content of the pictures and posts might require a warrant (unless it was gathered through other public methods) but what device you posted with, where you posted from, when you posted, and anyone you included or tagged in the post might be eligible for discovery, even if posted privately, without a warrant.

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#20

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Gilgamesh said:
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Ah, Volkmann. That gif probably gives him nightmares.


#21

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

Officer_Charon said:
I really, REALLY like the way he's handling this.

"You don't want the carrot? It's a really good carrot... fair enough. Time for the stick."
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I'm hoping he doesn't press charges against the four that did show up


#22

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

CrimsonSoul said:
I'm hoping he doesn't press charges against the four that did show up
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Me too, though I'm not sure you can do discriminatory charges like that (O_C, your thoughts?)

More likely, he presses charges against them, but convinces the judge that since they showed he's in favor of dismissing the charges.


#23

strawman

strawman

He can't decide. Criminal charges are brought by the prosecutor, and while he can provide a statement to the court the case is technically the defense vs the state, not the victim.

Still, judges and prosecutors do often weigh such statements and the actions of the defendants after the crime in, and they may get an easier sentence because they chose to turn themselves in.


#24

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

(Bear in mind that I'm not a lawyer or a detective, but I'm reasonably certain this is how it could/would work out)

On the contrary, as the complainant, it is his decision as to whether or not to press charges. Now, the INDICTMENTS are brought by the prosecutor, and he would weigh the complainant's requests when writing the indictments.

(Holy hell... ~296 indictments and arrest warrants to write/sign - SOMEONE's gonna bring out a rubber stamp at some point in these proceedings).

Given that he's already had the four come forwards, I'd be amazed if charges are even levelled. And if they are, I see him summarily dropping them against those four without incident.

But the rest? Yeah, they had their chance. Fuck 'em.


#25

Jay

Jay

As a parent, if my daughter would have done this.... The wrath of jay


#26

blotsfan

blotsfan

Jay said:
As a parent
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Aww, is this your first time?


#27

Jay

Jay

blotsfan said:
Aww, is this your first time?
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To my knowledge


#28

blotsfan

blotsfan

Then a brofist to you.


#29

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Jay said:
As a parent, if my daughter would have done this.... The wrath of jay
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out of morbid curiosity, what would be your punishment to your teenage daughter?


#30

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Charlie Don't Surf said:
out of morbid curiosity, what would be your punishment to your teenage daughter?
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#31

Cajungal

Cajungal

Those parents are trash. Either that, or they know their kids are shitty, and college was their only chance of getting rid of the dead weight.


#32

Jay

Jay

Charlie Don't Surf said:
out of morbid curiosity, what would be your punishment to your teenage daughter?
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Make her watch movies you recommend on these forums.


#33

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Jay said:
Make her watch movies you recommend on these forums.
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I watched Mulholland Drive on Charlie's recommendation, and it was excellent.

Make her watch The Room, and forbid her from making fun of it.


#34

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Jay said:
Make her watch movies you recommend on these forums.
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Jesus, Jay. Come on, dude. There's punishment and then there's cruel and unusual punishment.


#35

Jay

Jay

"Now you have to watch MYSTIC RIVER."


#36

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

i hate sean penn, but he is fantastic in that movie


#37

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

What would be hilarious is if she ended up loving those movies.


#38

Zappit

Zappit

The parents have no conceivable case. It's not a violation of privacy since their dumb kids posted every one of those photos online first. He gave those kids a chance to make it right, and only one kid showed up for his announced clean-up day. Out of three hundred, only one took any sort of responsibility.

Parents who defend their kids against anything and shield them from any sort of responsibility have an increasingly common problem I've dubbed NMLA Syndrome. (Not My Little Angel) These folks are not going to be able to get their kids out of this one, as the cops have already identified all the partygoers. They'll regret not taking that first offer from the homeowner.


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