Telling off a student

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Chibibar

I have to agree with Epsy, you might want to consider getting some consultation with a lawyer. Sexual harassment is serious business and can reflect badly on you when they "think" it is true (which we know it is false via your scenario) but it is better to be safe than sorry.
 
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I still have nightmares that involve me forgetting to attend a class for an entire semester and showing up for the final exam; learning that I have zeros for every other assignment in the class. I loved the social aspect of college, but I can do without stressing over my grades.
I have dreams like that about my old casino job. I'll dream I forgot about making a new schedule or filling out the end-of-night paperwork. Sometimes I dream I overslept for my shift. I wake up in a panic, then realize I haven't had that job in almost 10 years now.
 
The deli I work in has been renovated three times since I started back in 2002. The only way I can remember the first iteration is in my nightmares.
 
I have to agree with Epsy, you might want to consider getting some consultation with a lawyer. Sexual harassment is serious business and can reflect badly on you when they "think" it is true (which we know it is false via your scenario) but it is better to be safe than sorry.
Yeah Null... you REALLY need to talk to a lawyer. If not because you need to file charges against this student, then because of the harassment/intimidation your receiving from your supervisors. If they are actually looking at firing you, despite a mountain of evidence that proves you didn't do anything, you NEED to be planning ahead.
 
I have to agree with Epsy, you might want to consider getting some consultation with a lawyer. Sexual harassment is serious business and can reflect badly on you when they "think" it is true (which we know it is false via your scenario) but it is better to be safe than sorry.
Who the hell is this Epsy fellow? Sounds like a dick.
 
Null, just in case you haven't gotten it yet from the 4 other people who said it, you *need* to contact a lawyer immediately, start printing/saving emails on the subject, and making note of conversations. This can be incredibly damaging to you just from association, and I've never met a university admin who wouldn't gleefully crush the career of a service employee if it meant they could make a problem go away.
 
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Yeah Null... you REALLY need to talk to a lawyer. If not because you need to file charges against this student, then because of the harassment/intimidation your receiving from your supervisors. If they are actually looking at firing you, despite a mountain of evidence that proves you didn't do anything, you NEED to be planning ahead.
THIS!
 
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Guys, lawyers do cost money. Just saying.
I know, but I am not sure in Null's academic setting, but in our community college, they do take sexual harassment VERY seriously. Especially when it involves a student. You be surprise how a rumor can really tarnish your reputation in academic world even when it is not true.
 
I did get in touch with a lawyer this morning, though when I came in this afternoon, it seems the administration found a different solution.

They're allowing the student to graduate despite not having met the criteria. They're waiving her credit hour requirements and awarding her an Associates of Arts, pre-professional degree.
 
I did get in touch with a lawyer this morning, though when I came in this afternoon, it seems the administration found a different solution.

They're allowing the student to graduate despite not having met the criteria. They're waiving her credit hour requirements and awarding her an Associates of Arts, pre-professional degree.
What a wonderful solution. Refuse to deal with your problem and pass it on to the rest of the world - typical bureaucratic BS. :facepalm:
 
I did get in touch with a lawyer this morning, though when I came in this afternoon, it seems the administration found a different solution.

They're allowing the student to graduate despite not having met the criteria. They're waiving her credit hour requirements and awarding her an Associates of Arts, pre-professional degree.
Giving a degree to someone who didn't earn it? How could that possibly reflect well on the institution? Especially if proof found its way to the accreditation board.
 
The easiest solution (foisting the problem on someone else in society) is often not the best solution.

But it is easy.
 
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I did get in touch with a lawyer this morning, though when I came in this afternoon, it seems the administration found a different solution.

They're allowing the student to graduate despite not having met the criteria. They're waiving her credit hour requirements and awarding her an Associates of Arts, pre-professional degree.
Oh joy. You know that person is gonna be a stain on your institution in the future. It would be like "How in the world did she graduate?" of course it doesn't look good either if she actually become "well known" or "recognize" by the public.

Note: I put those in quote cause people who are "fluff" like Paris Hilton or Sarah Palin come to mind ;)
 
I know, but I am not sure in Null's academic setting, but in our community college, they do take sexual harassment VERY seriously. Especially when it involves a student. You be surprise how a rumor can really tarnish your reputation in academic world even when it is not true.

I know, man. I teach at a CC too. A girl went into my office just yesterday to ask about her upcoming final, and proceeded to close the door behind her. I quickly told her to please leave it open all the way. You can never be too careful. My open door policy literally means keep it open when you're in my office.
 
I did get in touch with a lawyer this morning, though when I came in this afternoon, it seems the administration found a different solution.


They're allowing the student to graduate despite not having met the criteria. They're waiving her credit hour requirements and awarding her an Associates of Arts, pre-professional degree.
WOW.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

I did get in touch with a lawyer this morning, though when I came in this afternoon, it seems the administration found a different solution.

They're allowing the student to graduate despite not having met the criteria. They're waiving her credit hour requirements and awarding her an Associates of Arts, pre-professional degree.
I am sitting here with my mouth open in disbelief. I'm both disgusted and curious if I could get through my BS faster if I did the same thing.
 
Giving a degree to someone who didn't earn it? How could that possibly reflect well on the institution? Especially if proof found its way to the accreditation board.
Nothing like giving a student a real life experience. At my company if you are inept they won't fire you, they promote you up and out so they won't have to deal with you. They'll sell a poor worker like they are God like and by the time the unit that gets the person realized they got a poor bill of sale it's too late. I can't tell you how many of these bozos get into management.
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I know, man. I teach at a CC too. A girl went into my office just yesterday to ask about her upcoming final, and proceeded to close the door behind her.
Hmmm. . . I like where this is going.
I quickly told her to please leave it open all the way. You can never be too careful. My open door policy literally means keep it open when you're in my office.
DOH!
 
I love the lesson they taught that young lady...

Yell SEXUAL HARASSMENT, and get what ever the hell you want.
Yeah, I feel REALLY bad for wherever she goes to work. She's gonna climb that corporate ladder, one sexual harassment charge at a time. Have fun ruining good peoples lives!
 
Yeah, I feel REALLY bad for wherever she goes to work. She's gonna climb that corporate ladder, one sexual harassment charge at a time. Have fun ruining good peoples lives!
That right there is exactly why I no longer work for one of my former employers. I refused to be bullied by an employee who wanted to cry harassment every time something didn't go her way. She was finally disciplined for her behavior and forced to quit, but it cost me my position as well. Looking back now, it's still worth it.
 
*sigh* Just had to tell a student the following sentence: "You can't have something before it exists."
 
... so what did he/she request?
The username and password for her account, since she had signed up for summer classes 10 minutes earlier. I told her the IT department creates student accounts in batches the week prior to the beginning of a semester; summer classes start here in 2 weeks, so her account won't be made for a week yet. She explained that she just wanted to log in with the as-yet-nonexistent account. I explained again that she didn't have an account yet. She then asked me to give her the password for her account. I explained that a) I don't create the accounts, so I can't just set one up for her; b) the IT department, which does create accounts, was already gone for the day (this happened about 6:30pm, we were closing at 7 since it's intersession, IT leaves at 5); and c) that IT wouldn't create her account individually, but would do it in a batch of summer students next week.

"Well, I want my account information."
*sigh* "You can't have something before it exists."
 
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