TF2 Revenge of the Fallen(thread): Bay doing coke off dead h

[DarkAudit]

Not all remakes are bad. Without remakes, we would have missed out on one of the greatest movie sequences of all time. The chariot race in the 1959 remake of Ben-Hur. Not only was it a remake of one of the biggest films of 1925, but that version was itself a remake.

But the trend now reeks of laziness. Remakes in place of original ideas. Remakes of films that weren't all that good to begin with, or probably shouldn't have been made at all. Remakes of films so new the projector bulb is still warm.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

It's kind of like when you're in elementary school and they tell you you're not allowed to start a sentence with "because." You totally can start a sentence with "because," you just have to know how to construct a proper sentence afterward. A good remake can be made, you just have to know how to construct a proper one.

Great post and analogy. And I totally think there have been a lot of awful remakes lately, but I just don't like condemning a movie and gnashing teeth when we don't know really anything about the movie yet.

 

[Shawn]

It's kind of like when you're in elementary school and they tell you you're not allowed to start a sentence with "because." You totally can start a sentence with "because," you just have to know how to construct a proper sentence afterward. A good remake can be made, you just have to know how to construct a proper one.

Great post and analogy. And I totally think there have been a lot of awful remakes lately, but I just don't like condemning a movie and gnashing teeth when we don't know really anything about the movie yet.

I feel a remake should only be made if something can be built upon the concept of the original. Better special effects is a good springboard for remakes of scifi or horror films, but often becomes a crutch instead. I felt 1988's "The Blob" was a decent remake due to the better creature effects and twist on the original story (instead of a monster from deep space, it's a government created war germ that mutated during a satellite test). On the other hand you have a movie like the Friday the 13th remake that, despite some sweet kills, doesn't have anything that really makes it stand out as a remake, let alone a typical slasher film. Get rid of the hockey mask and you could have called it "Lakeside Killer" and no one would have noticed the connection.

 

[Gurpel]

It's kind of like when you're in elementary school and they tell you you're not allowed to start a sentence with "because." You totally can start a sentence with "because," you just have to know how to construct a proper sentence afterward. A good remake can be made, you just have to know how to construct a proper one.

Here is another analogy; it's kind of like when you're in elementary school and they tell you you're not allowed to start a sentence with "because." You totally can start a sentence with "because," [strike:gcodjtca]you just have to know how to construct a proper sentence afterward.[/strike:gcodjtca] you just have to do it in the correct situation. A good remake can be made, you just have to know [strike:gcodjtca]how to construct a proper one.[/strike:gcodjtca] when it is appropriate to make one

Great post and analogy. And I totally think there have been a lot of awful remakes lately, but I just don't like condemning a movie and gnashing teeth when we don't know really anything about the movie yet.

did you actually just post that?

is there something i'm missing here? you are the same guy who valued the suffering that would be caused to him by TF2:ROF at 30 dollars, right?

PRE-EDIT: i know my first thing is kind of covered by the above post, but i started typing before i saw it.

 

[Krisken]

Great post and analogy. And I totally think there have been a lot of awful remakes lately, but I just don't like condemning a movie and gnashing teeth when we don't know really anything about the movie yet.

did you actually just post that?

is there something i'm missing here? you are the same guy who valued the suffering that would be caused to him by TF2:ROF at 30 dollars, right?

Oh, that had to be on purpose.

edited to fix quotes.

Dammit Shannow, I'm agreeing with you again. I'm a bit surprised there were reports for that thread. I've seen much worse here.

 

[Shannow]

we're still having discussion without being outright mean to people. At least I'm trying to.

Well, the last thread went so swimmingly, including reports we had to deal with, so I'm just very excited about this one.

Ya know what...fuck the reports. Sorry, but people need to toughen up a bit, if they reported others in that last thread.

-- Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:59 am --

Come on, Calleja, they're not saying anything inflammatory here. You're the one flipping out. There's no call for that. If you don't want to talk about the movie, then find another thread.

I'm not saying anything inflammatory either! I'm just going from the 20 pages of spewing poop against something they haven't seen. Where was *I* inflammatory?

Unless you mean the hypothetical friend of a friend character I created for hyperbole purposes. Then yeah.. sorry, that guy got flamed for no reason. I do apologize to him.

I saw the movie, and thats when I started posting in the other thread. Guess what, it was shit. And I stand behind what I said over there, too.



...Sorry all, I came to this thread late, but wow, the first page alone is made of awesome.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

is there something i'm missing here? you are the same guy who valued the suffering that would be caused to him by TF2:ROF at 30 dollars, right?

PRE-EDIT: i know my first thing is kind of covered by the above post, but i started typing before i saw it.

uh... we know a shitload more about Transformers 2 than this Warriors remake that has no trailer, no script, no cast, no reviews, no toy tie-ins.....

 

[Shannow]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

someone already did, there is no excuse for ever posting xkcd, kill yourself.

 

[Krisken]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

someone already did, there is no excuse for ever posting xkcd, kill yourself.

You make me really sad Charlie.

 

[Shawn]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

Never post relevant things that give your side of the argument a slap to the face.

 

[strawman]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

Never post relevant things that give your side of the argument a slap to the face.

He didn't take CDS and Kissinger's advice about seeing the movie, what makes you think he's going to take your advice about not undermining your own arguments?



That said, it's a funny comic.

"Gerroffa mah [strike:1tiqjv8l]lawn[/strike:1tiqjv8l] movies ya lazy bums!"

-Adam

 

xkcd almost always has a comic that is relevant to the topic at hand.

 

[Shannow]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

someone already did, there is no excuse for ever posting xkcd, kill yourself.

Did not see it, but then again, if it was..my point was proven. Seeing as I was jsut saying that someone was going to post it as an argument, point, etc. and that we may as well get it out of the way.

Also, go fuck yourself? Yeah, defintiely go fuck yourself.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

We know its goign to be posted as some sort of gospel, so may as well get it out of the way...

someone already did, there is no excuse for ever posting xkcd, kill yourself.

Did not see it, but then again, if it was..my point was proven. Seeing as I was jsut saying that someone was going to post it as an argument, point, etc. and that we may as well get it out of the way.

Also, go fuck yourself? Yeah, defintiely go fuck yourself.

The kill yourself was joking I like you It was more of a jab at XKCD.

 

[Shannow]

Awww..I like you too.

Though now, I can only picture the scene of Homer Simpson in bootcamp getting yelled at by the drill instructer.

 

[Chazwozel]

I'd just like to say that I'd like to apologize on behalf of bandwidth everywhere for wasting it to download Transformers 2. That's how bad it was.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

I'd just like to say that I'd like to apologize on behalf of bandwidth everywhere for wasting it to download Transformers 2. That's how bad it was.

Somewhere someone streaming Die Hard off Netflix had a hiccup and got the "your internet connection has slowed, we must adjust" message and it's all your fault.

 

[Shannow]

I'd just like to say that I'd like to apologize on behalf of bandwidth everywhere for wasting it to download Transformers 2. That's how bad it was.

Somewhere someone streaming Die Hard off Netflix had a hiccup and got the "your internet connection has slowed, we must adjust" message and it's all your fault.

But it was Die Hard 4, so all was right with the world.

 

[Espy]

Hey now, DH4 was Shakespeare compared to TF2.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

I'd just like to say that I'd like to apologize on behalf of bandwidth everywhere for wasting it to download Transformers 2. That's how bad it was.

Somewhere someone streaming Die Hard off Netflix had a hiccup and got the "your internet connection has slowed, we must adjust" message and it's all your fault.

But it was Die Hard 4, so all was right with the world.

The original is the only one available on instant watch :smug:

 

[Shannow]

:slap:

 

[DarkAudit]

Once again, people...

TF2=Team Fortress 2
T2=Terminator 2

Find something else to soil. :tongue:

 

[ElJuski]

I'm trying to think of a re-make that I honestly enjoyed better than the original...

I know I like the American The Office much more. Not to mention the Batman Begins and Dark Knight reboots.

My brain's a little fried from just waking up, and I'm sure more will come.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

I'm trying to think of a re-make that I honestly enjoyed better than the original...

I know I like the American The Office much more. Not to mention the Batman Begins and Dark Knight reboots.

My brain's a little fried from just waking up, and I'm sure more will come.

The Thing, Ben-Hur, Maltese Falcon, Ocean's 11, The Departed, The Fly

 

[ElJuski]

Ahh see...the thing is, is that I've seen most of the remakes, but not the originals. For instance, I loved The Departed, but I can't really comment on whether its better than the original or not. But I thought it was a great movie.

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

The Thing, Ben-Hur, Maltese Falcon, Ocean's 11, The Departed, The Fly

How many of these, remakes or originals, have you seen?

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

The Thing, Ben-Hur, Maltese Falcon, Ocean's 11, The Departed, The Fly

How many of these, remakes or originals, have you seen?

Remakes: all but Ben-Hur. I feel pretty safe in saying the remakes are better since the originals are all either foreign and subtitley or in black and white

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

Remakes: all but Ben-Hur. I feel pretty safe in saying the remakes are better since the originals are all either foreign and subtitley or in black and white

I hate you so fucking much.

 

[Shawn]

Remakes: all but Ben-Hur. I feel pretty safe in saying the remakes are better since the originals are all either foreign and subtitley or in black and white

I hate you so smurfing much.

Walk across the room and punch him in the mouth?

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

No, honestly I haven't seen the originals. I want to see Foreign Affairs really bad since quite a few people say it's better than The Departed. These are definitely more talked-about and more high profile movies. The very least I can say about them is that they're examples of just really terrific and awesome movies that just happen to be remakes.

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

In all seriousness, I love the 1925 Ben Hur (one of the first epics ever made) but the William Wyler version is better.

 

[sixpackshaker]

I leave work yesterday to a dead Transformers Thread, I log in after lunch to find 7 pages to the new one? wow just wow

I am a little disappointed that the original did not make the hall of fame. I guess a thread needs to be an insult to Calleja to make it in there now.

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

I leave work yesterday to a dead Transformers Thread, I log in after lunch to find 7 pages to the new one? wow just wow

I am a little disappointed that the original did not make the hall of fame. I guess a thread needs to be an insult to Calleja to make it in there now.

Good post

 

[Shannow]

In all seriousness, I love the 1925 Ben Hur (one of the first epics ever made) but the William Wyler version is better.

Well, to be honest, the best remake was made by Senior Speilbergo:

Drink up...Juda Ben Hur.