[Movies] The DC Cinematic Universe - The David Zazlav Dumpster Fire.

I don't necessarily mind it, but I get where you're coming from. Kingdom Come is one of my all-time favourite comics, so I might be a bit biased. I think Alex Ross' intention was to make the symbol as simplistic as possible. So the top curve of the symbol is blended into the triangle itself. It's meant to be a darker design, to reflect his feelings on the world he's in in that story.

I wouldn't want it as a permanent design, but I think it's suitable for the story in Kingdom Come.

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Yeah I understand, plus it's fitting for the story of Kingdom Come that this Superman's symbol is, shall we say, distorted. It's just that when I first saw that symbol, without having read Kingdom Come, I was all like, "That is such a terrible Superman symbol" and that feeling's stuck with me since, like a pet peeve.
 
Yeah I understand, plus it's fitting for the story of Kingdom Come that this Superman's symbol is, shall we say, distorted. It's just that when I first saw that symbol, without having read Kingdom Come, I was all like, "That is such a terrible Superman symbol" and that feeling's stuck with me since, like a pet peeve.
Oh yeah, I recall even fan reaction was like that at the time, too. I wasn't crazy about it at first.

My beef is when it keeps showing up elsewhere when it's not really Kingdom Come Superman. Like Brandon Routh's appearance in the Crisis crossover. They used...bits of the Kingdom Come story but it wasn't quite the same.

At least it looks more like an S than whatever the hell they had going with the Batman Beyond Superman symbol.

GREAT episode, but I hate the design.

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We have our first good look at David Corenswet for James Gunn's upcoming Superman movie.

Good: Red trunks!
Bad: Kind of dulled colors. I wanted something a bit brighter.
Good: It's form-fitting, but not skin tight.
Bad: The collar is...ehhhhh, it's fine. I'll get over it.
Good: PRETTY sure that's Solaris in the background.
Good: I like the laid back working man kind of pose they're evoking here.
Good: S-shaped spit curl!

So yeah, overall, more wins than losses. I don't know why I'm not feeling more excited for a James Gunn directed Superman movie. I love his Guardians movies, and I like a lot of his other work. But I keep hearing there are multiple other relatively big name actors in this playing other superheroes, like Nathan Fillon playing Guy Gardner. And I just...I really just want a good, standalone Superman movie first without tying into a bigger universe. Maybe that's too much to ask in the age of shared universes.

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I find it odd that Superman would still be nonchalantly putting on his boots when there's a crisis actively going on right outside the window.

But yeah, I am also disproportionately pleased with the hair curl.
 
I find it odd that Superman would still be nonchalantly putting on his boots when there's a crisis actively going on right outside the window.
Only one change I would've made. Have him looking back over his right shoulder, out the window at what's going on out there. Everything else is the same, but it would convey more urgency and shows his desire to keep his eye (literally!) on Metropolis.
Also would've put that spit curl in profile, so... bonus.

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It really evokes a "well, shit, gotta go save the world again" feeling - which is not Superman. But it's also just pre-marketing material so I'm not too bent out of shape about it. I also like the idea it's him taking off his boots, and this is the Dark Superman from Superman 3 :awesome:
 

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Or he's moving so fast that the background is basically frozen in time while it looks like he's slowly putting on his boots. Then he sighs to himself, shakes his head a little, and goes to stop the alien menace.
 
OMG! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!

(Source: James Gunn himself)

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There's something that's not sitting right for some reason. I have a lot of faith in James Gunn but there's a lot of....Cartoon?...in this movie. Or a lack of seriousness? I'm hoping it doesn't lean into the doofiness of Shazam but not the grim-dark of Snyder. I don't envy the director and producers on this, that's for sure.
 
There's something that's not sitting right for some reason. I have a lot of faith in James Gunn but there's a lot of....Cartoon?...in this movie. Or a lack of seriousness? I'm hoping it doesn't lean into the doofiness of Shazam but not the grim-dark of Snyder. I don't envy the director and producers on this, that's for sure.
Is look to Guardians of the Galaxy and The Suicide Squad for comparable tones.
 
There's something that's not sitting right for some reason. I have a lot of faith in James Gunn but there's a lot of....Cartoon?...in this movie. Or a lack of seriousness? I'm hoping it doesn't lean into the doofiness of Shazam but not the grim-dark of Snyder. I don't envy the director and producers on this, that's for sure.
If it was ANYONE but James Gunn heading this, I'd be concerned. But I have faith. I'm getting vibes that he's doing a loose film adaptation of "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" (or the Superman vs the Elite animated movie). I could be wrong on that.

Either way, I have faith specifically because of Gunn's past work. He brings a great balance of depth and seriousness where you wouldn't expect it in the silliest concepts (space raccoons and giant evil starfish).

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SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY GOOD HECKIN' BOY SITTING ON THE MOON WITH HIS SUPER PERSON.
 
If it was ANYONE but James Gunn heading this, I'd be concerned. But I have faith. I'm getting vibes that he's doing a loose film adaptation of "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" (or the Superman vs the Elite animated movie). I could be wrong on that.

Either way, I have faith specifically because of Gunn's past work. He brings a great balance of depth and seriousness where you wouldn't expect it in the silliest concepts (space raccoons and giant evil starfish).

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SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY GOOD HECKIN' BOY SITTING ON THE MOON WITH HIS SUPER PERSON.
After how grimdark almost everything from WB has been, I'm more than happy if Gunn wants to lean into it being a little cheesy and hokey. Hell, I could use cheesy and hokey right about now.
 
After how grimdark almost everything from WB has been, I'm more than happy if Gunn wants to lean into it being a little cheesy and hokey. Hell, I could use cheesy and hokey right about now.
In these very dark, depressing times, I think Gunn knows exactly the kind of Superman movie we need. If it IS a Superman vs the Elite style tale, then that's a perfect story to tell. It's saying "Yeah, here's this genuinely good guy who struggles to exist in a world that think he's too outdated and isn't hard enough on crime. And here's that genuinely good guy showing the world that kindness is needed more than ever in a darker world.

Also, he brought his awesome space dog."
 
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