[Comics] The "Let's Bitch about Comics thread!"

[Hailey Knight]

Looks like Marvel is cancelling three of my books, so ... Guess they don't want money.

I'm most annoyed over Gwenpool because it got so much more interesting this past year and while I could take it or leave it at times, it's my wife's favorite comic right now.

 

[Yoshimickster]

...GWENPOOL?! REALLY?! Uh...okay I am not that series' biggest fan( kinda felt the meta-fiction was done better in other series but I only read the first few issues), but I know for a fact that series is one of their most popular runs right now. Fucking dammit Marvel Entertainment's comic division is dumb.

 

[AshburnerX]

Aren't they moving Gwenpool to a team book?

 

[Covar]

The last issue of gwenpool did 15k. It might have been popular on Tumblr, but as Marvel has been stubbornly refusing to accept that means shit for comic sales.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Aren't they moving Gwenpool to a team book?

The only one I could think would be Champions and it sounds like that's ending not long after.

...GWENPOOL?! REALLY?! Uh...okay I am not that series' biggest fan( kinda felt the meta-fiction was done better in other series but I only read the first few issues), but I know for a fact that series is one of their most popular runs right now. Fucking dammit Marvel Entertainment's comic division is dumb.

Some books are safe because digital and trade sales despite abysmal monthly sales, like Squirrel Girl at 10k (I can't believe I'm one in only 10,000 people that pick up this hilarious comic) but Gwenpool wasn't one of them.

 

[Yoshimickster]

The last issue of gwenpool did 15k. It might have been popular on Tumblr, but as Marvel has been stubbornly refusing to accept that means shit for comic sales.

Okay see-THIS-should've been what they made a digital comic then! Not that piece of shit "Slapstick" series that came out recently. Seriously, at least Gwenpool is SOMEWHAT relevant and original, Slapstick infinite was just a bunch of outdated pop-culture/dick jokes.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Missed one, so four Marvel books I read. Which is most of them.

 

[Hailey Knight]

She-Hulk cancellation confirmed by writer. So the total titles being cancelled at once are

Royals
Iceman
Generation X
Luke Cage
The Defenders
Guardians of the Galaxy
Gwenpool
She-Hulk
Hawkeye
U.S. Avengers
America
Uncanny Avengers
Secret Warriors
Jean Grey

Bunch of these writers say they have some secret project coming, so get ready for yet another Marvel relaunch.

 

[Covar]

Well we know Bendis has a secret project coming for sure.

Maybe everyone else will get books that have a shot, or should have just been limited series to begin with.

I look at the list and see little of value lost.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Well we know Bendis has a secret project coming for sure.

Maybe everyone else will get books that have a shot, or should have just been limited series to begin with.

I look at the list and see little of value lost.

The only pariah on the list AFAIK is America. I look at the list and see 5 books I was reading going poof before April 2018. I understand cancelling low sellers, but it's a lot at once, especially when many of Marvel's flagship titles aren't exactly high quality right now.

I'm really surprised with Guardians. With how popular the characters are right now, and Duggan drawing from the Abnett/Lanning run, there's no reason for this book to fail.

 

[Yoshimickster]

In OTHER NEWS-Marvel Entertainment's comics division is...run by idiots.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

That's it. I need an artist to co-create a comic about farting aliens who die when they gossip about each other's social issues.

 

[PatrThom]

That's it. I need an artist to co-create a comic about farting aliens who die when they gossip about each other's social issues.

Also, bees.

--Patrick

 

[Simfers]

The farts could release bees!!!

 

[Covar]

That's it. I need an artist to co-create a comic about farting aliens who die when they gossip about each other's social issues.

Marvel will gladly hire you. It will fit right in with their other sub 20k books, and be hailed as a huge success (just don’t ask why the available numbers don’t reflect that). Anyone who dares suggest that it’s not good will be promptly dismissed as a bigoted shitlord, regardless of their actual criticism.

Now will you be needing an editor? I kid, Marvel doesn’t have any editors. It’s why art & spelling mistakes constantly slip through.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Marvel will gladly hire you. It will fit right in with their other sub 20k books, and be hailed as a huge success (just don’t ask why the available numbers don’t reflect that). Anyone who dares suggest that it’s not good will be promptly dismissed as a bigoted shitlord, regardless of their actual criticism.

You badmouthed MacGyver, didn't you?

 

[Covar]

Who?

 

[Hailey Knight]

Who?

Dammit, man, you make me look old.




Although I clearly did not remember the context for this reference. :/

 

[Covar]

Ah. For some reason I wasn’t thinking fictional MacGyver.

 

[Yoshimickster]

UGH-a new "Kick-Ass" series is coming out in February! WHY?! WHY CAN'T THIS STAY DEAD?!

 

[Hailey Knight]

Spider-Gwen is rumored next on the Marvel chopping block, but it's possibly just being relaunched with a new title to match her animated name in Marvel Uprising, Ghost Spider.

Maybe everyone else will get books that have a shot

The writer shuffling also seems like it's heading this way, if books with a shot = books that already have a movie or TV show. Which isn't a bad thing inherently, but it's sad that those in charge keep thinking they have to match up with the MCU, when the MCU is already adapting past material.

Also, I noticed large sales spikes for Legacy issues, but then an immediate drop, and I'm going to guess those were inflated orders so stores could get the lenticulars and not because people loved the poorly-done lenticulars just that much.

 

[Covar]

We didn’t order the lenticulars, but from talking to other stores and looking around cons they weren’t that successful with readers. Some stores did bundle deals where they gave the regular cover with the lenticular at a steep discount to try and not lose money.

 

[DarkAudit]

@Zero Esc, Ghost Spider, eh? Would that be dangerously close to infringing on Ghost Widow from CoV?

Assuming any IP rights from the game are still valid.

 

[Hailey Knight]

@Zero Esc, Ghost Spider, eh? Would that be dangerously close to infringing on Ghost Widow from CoV?

Assuming any IP rights from the game are still valid.

Against Disney lawyers? Probably not an issue.

I think they were more going for something that sounded like Ghost Rider, Ghost Spider.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

So not only is DC introducing Alan Moore & J.H. Williams III's Promethea into their continuity, but Williams III only found out through social media when someone shared a Bleeding Cool article about it.

I should thank DC, honestly.

With this bullshit combined with the Watchmen crap, they're saving me a lot of money.

 

[Hailey Knight]

So not only is DC introducing Alan Moore & J.H. Williams III's Promethea into their continuity, but Williams III only found out through social media when someone shared a Bleeding Cool article about it.

I should thank DC, honestly.

With this bullshit combined with the Watchmen crap, they're saving me a lot of money.

I suppose it was inevitable with Tom Strong being in there, but it doesn't really make any sense unless it's a separate arm of the multiverse.

 

[Frank]

I'll take Worst Takes By Marvel Artists for 800 Alex.

BEEBOOO BEEBOOO BEEBOOOOO!!

 

[Celt Z]

I'll take Worst Takes By Marvel Artists for 800 Alex.

BEEBOOO BEEBOOO BEEBOOOOO!!

I'm very confused by this. Does he think it stands for "Social Jewish Warriors"?

 

[@Li3n]

I'll take Worst Takes By Marvel Artists for 800 Alex.

BEEBOOO BEEBOOO BEEBOOOOO!!

SWJ Hitler... who's also a socialist.

See, this is what happens when you don't have proper education...

Also, anyone else think the X-Men are totally silencing both Magneto and the FoH, by stopping them from preaching (and practising) their ideologies?

 

[Frank]

I'd never heard of the guy before today so I looked at some of his art.

Second rate Liefeld, Jesus. I could have a job in comics if that's the standard.

 

[Hailey Knight]

I'd never heard of the guy before today so I looked at some of his art.

Second rate Liefeld, Jesus. I could have a job in comics if that's the standard.

Marvel standard is "how fast can you go?"

 

[drifter]

Ha ha holy cow you weren't exaggerating about the Liefeld thing. Well, I've been told before you don't need to be the best artist, but you need to be a dependable artist.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

I'll take Worst Takes By Marvel Artists for 800 Alex.

BEEBOOO BEEBOOO BEEBOOOOO!!

I would be very surprised if he's still employed by the end of the week.

 

[Covar]

I would be very surprised if he's still employed by the end of the week.

Which would be kind of ironic.

 

[Frank]

Which would be kind of ironic.

As someone who could lose their job at the drop of a hat based on my conduct online, I'm not the biggest fan of that. As someone who likes non-shitty comic art, he fucking should lose his God damn job.