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Bust out your cum socks, boys. I know they're right there by the lotion.

Ugh

at least he's not writing it, i guess

Steven Soderburgin said:

Ugh

at least he's not writing it, i guess

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Yeah, I'm not thrilled about this either. It could be worse.

I hope he can bring his unique visual style of Dr. Horrible to a $200m action movie

Much as I loved Serenity, I don't think a movie of this type would work with Joss at the helm.

They should have gotten Jon Favreau or Louis Leterrier.

Jon Favreau turned it down and Louis Letterier is a terrible filmmaker

Is there an underage badass girl in the Avengers?

Huh... that's... weird.

Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Serenity was pretty awesome AAAANND look at Jon Favreau, who would have thought HE could helm a movie like Iron Man so awesomely?

Now see, I'd heard that Kathryn "Academy Award Winning Hurt Locker" Bigelow was in the running.

I had kind of hoped she would get this, instead.

For as good as Whedon is, he's not really all that big of a seller. FOX screws him over more than polygamist who says his wife is the only one and his movies (well, movie) are not big sellers. He's an internet darling for quirky but starting to recycle itself writing. Seriously, you can almost smell a beloved character death a mile away. He might have gotten screwed by FOX, but his shows keep getting cancelled, regardless.

That said, I think if he gave us something more in-line with his run of Astonishing X-Men, then I think we might have a winner.

Steven Soderburgin said:

Jon Favreau turned it down and Louis Letterier is a terrible filmmaker

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I know Letterier doesn't have a great track record, but he's at least established that he can do a good superhero/action hero film.

Joss doesn't really do action sequences especially well. The fights/gunbattles in Serenity were passable despite Joss, not because of him, and the Avengers is going to have a lot more, with it being a primary focus for large parts of the film.

With Joss, all we can look forward to is the Wasp turned into a mousy little girl, and lots of standing around exchanging witty banter or monumentous observations on the nature of man's cruelty to man. None of which is necessarily bad, but it wouldn't really be an Avengers movie.

That said, I think Joss could make the "Hawkeye mouths off to Cap" scenes really pop.

You do realize Whedon is not writing, right?

This news pleases me. Mostly because the idea of an Avengers film seems so crazydrunkwrong why not throw in Joss? I just hope he casts Summer Glau and Amy Acker, in every role.

Come to think of it, Amy Acker would make for a pretty damn good Scarlet Witch.

Trust me, TeKeo, I wasn't trying to make an argument in favor of Whedon as director here.

The Mex said:

You do realize Whedon is not writing, right?

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We don't know who is going to be writing. Directors can have a huge influence on the script. Hell, it's something that Joss fans always claim when one of his scripted films bombs in the box office.

Jon Favreau is going to be the exec producer, and has a history of inserting himself into the process, so hopefully Joss can learn.

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Steven Soderburgin said:

Trust me, TeKeo, I wasn't trying to make an argument in favor of Whedon as director here.

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I know, was just pointing out why Letterier is still a better choice, despite Transporter 2.

ThatNickGuy said:

Now see, I'd heard that Kathryn "Academy Award Winning Hurt Locker" Bigelow was in the running.

I had kind of hoped she would get this, instead.

For as good as Whedon is, he's not really all that big of a seller. FOX screws him over more than polygamist who says his wife is the only one and his movies (well, movie) are not big sellers. He's an internet darling for quirky but starting to recycle itself writing. Seriously, you can almost smell a beloved character death a mile away. He might have gotten screwed by FOX, but his shows keep getting cancelled, regardless.

That said, I think if he gave us something more in-line with his run of Astonishing X-Men, then I think we might have a winner.

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His Fox shows don't last, but Buffy lasted like 200 God damn years.

Also, Marvel isn't Fox.

Angel got cancelled despite Whedon and company wanting to continue it.

Steven Soderburgin said:

Ugh

at least he's not writing it, i guess

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I love when your cookie cutter movie snob responses shine through to prove your opinions are invalidated almost before they're written.

Not liking Joss Whedon's work as a director means I'm a movie snob?

Okay, I can live with that.

Steven Soderburgin said:

Not liking Joss Whedon's work as a director means I'm a movie snob?

Okay, I can live with that.

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You know exactly what I mean, playing it off only further proves the point.

I actually don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a fan of Joss Whedon as a writer and I think he's only shown limited talent as a director. As an ideas man, he's great, but as time goes on, his limits in that area continue to show, as well. I hope this movie is good under his direction, though.

Steven Soderburgin said:

I actually don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a fan of Joss Whedon as a writer and I think he's only shown limited talent as a director. As an ideas man, he's great, but as time goes on, his limits in that area continue to show, as well. I hope this movie is good under his direction, though.

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I know what you mean with that smilie:



I'm on to you.

Shego, let's not fight. :3

sixpackshaker said:

Is there an underage badass girl in the Avengers?

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Well, if you count Young Avengers, theres Pym's daughter, last I saw she was like what, 15? And could turn gigantic.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I love every Joss Whedon work I've seen/read so far but...he just doesn't seem to be the right dude for this project. I mean, I think he's a fine director and is certainly a better choice than someone like Tim Burton or Uwe Boll (not saying those guys are equals, just that they'd make equally poor Avengers flicks) but he just hasn't worked up to it. A bunch of TV episodes, a medium budget Sci-Fi western, a shoe-string budget short film, and then a big screen blockbuster summer movie. It just doesn't flow. I mean Favreau had at least directed Zathura before making Iron Man.

Oh well. I hope it will be good.

Mav;370679][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:

Is there an underage badass girl in the Avengers?

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Well, if you count Young Avengers, theres Pym's daughter, last I saw she was like what, 15? And could turn gigantic.[/QUOTE]

Wrong Ant-Man. Stature is the daughter of Scott Lang, and freaking awesome if I might add.

Whedon would have a field day with Stature.

why would we count the Young avengers anyway?! It's the first ever Avengers movie, guys. Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man. If they start adding all the spin-offs and shit it'd have to be a 7 hour long movie.

Whedon would kill with a She-Hulk movie.

Covar said:

Whedon would kill She-Hulk.

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Fixed that for ya.

you're probably right

Marvel fans would be out for his head.

Covar said:

Whedon would kill with a She-Hulk movie.

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Coming 2012!

The Mex said:

why would we count the Young avengers anyway?! It's the first ever Avengers movie, guys. Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man. If they start adding all the spin-offs and shit it'd have to be a 7 hour long movie.

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You left out Wasp. You know, the only female founding Avenger.

And Cap didn't even join until like, the 6th issue or somesuch.

:nerd:

I don't know how you can cram all these heroes into a movie and keep it at a reasonable running time, and keep the plot interesting too.

Vagabond said:

I don't know how you can cram all these heroes into a movie and keep it at a reasonable running time, and keep the plot interesting too.

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They won't be doing origins, as all the members will have had their own origin film + sequel when Avengers hits the theatres.

Vagabond;370737][QUOTE=The Mex said:

why would we count the Young avengers anyway?! It's the first ever Avengers movie, guys. Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man. If they start adding all the spin-offs and shit it'd have to be a 7 hour long movie.

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You left out Wasp. You know, the only female founding Avenger.

And Cap didn't even join until like, the 6th issue or somesuch.

:nerd:

I don't know how you can cram all these heroes into a movie and keep it at a reasonable running time, and keep the plot interesting too.[/QUOTE]

By focusing the story on Wolverine.

or, well, whoever.

Covar said:

you're probably right

Marvel fans would be out for his head.

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There would be some awesome 4th-wall breakage before that though.

Shegokigo;370738][QUOTE=Vagabond said:

I don't know how you can cram all these heroes into a movie and keep it at a reasonable running time, and keep the plot interesting too.

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They won't be doing origins, as all the members will have had their own origin film + sequel when Avengers hits the theatres.[/QUOTE]And with Nick Fury as a character inking all the movies, you've got an instant team origin.

Calleja said:

why would we count the Young avengers anyway?! It's the first ever Avengers movie, guys. Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man. If they start adding all the spin-offs and shit it'd have to be a 7 hour long movie.

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While you're right about Stature having no chance of hitting silver screens in the near future, she IS a member of the Mighty Avengers, one of the most Avengery Avengers teams published today. Also, as far as movie characters go....you left out Black Widow. I'd imagine she'll take Wasp's place as a founding member for a movie.

EDIT: According to Variety, Whedon will also be reworking the script. This is good, as Whedon does ensembles like nobody's business. Still not sure about putting him in the director's chair.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017689.html?categoryid=10&cs=1

I liked Marvel's Incredible Hulk and Marvel's Iron Man. Marvel's Iron Man 2 looks like it will be another winner. They understand how to translate a comic into an enjoyable film so until they put out a piece of garbage I'm behind them regardless of who is at the helm. I think Joss will do a great job with the movie.

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It's interesting to hear that Whedon will direct, but it makes me a tad nervous. I had heard about his ideas for a Wonder Woman film and it was sounding terrible. He said he had never read the comics and wasn't really going to read them, he would have created his own villain, it was all sounding bad. As long as he follows someone else's script, I'll be fine with this.

ThatNickGuy said:

Now see, I'd heard that Kathryn "Academy Award Winning Hurt Locker" Bigelow was in the running.

I had kind of hoped she would get this, instead.

For as good as Whedon is, he's not really all that big of a seller. FOX screws him over more than polygamist who says his wife is the only one and his movies (well, movie) are not big sellers. He's an internet darling for quirky but starting to recycle itself writing. Seriously, you can almost smell a beloved character death a mile away. He might have gotten screwed by FOX, but his shows keep getting cancelled, regardless.

That said, I think if he gave us something more in-line with his run of Astonishing X-Men, then I think we might have a winner.

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Now there's something worth mentioning. I really liked Astonishing X-men perhaps whedon doing marvel is not a bad thing eh? Personally, I'd be optimistic about this anyway. I've yet to watch something by whedon that I didn't like. Though dollhouse was pretty weird but it wasn't bad.


But it was pretty damned wierd.

Writing a comic and directing a film are vastly, totally, completely different. They are not even in the same zip code.

Whedon reworking the script is actually a really good thing, I think. Now, I did say I'm not a fan of Whedon's work as a writer, which to me is a bit too self-consciously clever, but as has been said, he does ensembles really well. On top of that, that Whedon's work as a script doctor has been really good, so this seems like a really good move.

You know, I would have never though J.F. was a good choice to direct Iron Man but he blew that out of the park, with Whedons history I'm willing to give Marvel the benefit of a doubt here. Like SS said up there, he does ensembles well and lord knows thats what they need for this movie, someone who gets group dynamics and won't make it WOLVERINE (and the xmen).

I mean, everything up to release date will be blowing smoke around here. I, too, will just wait. But it doesn't make me excited, per say.

As the AVClub always notes--and I explicitly steal from--I remain cautiously optimistic.

Steven Soderburgin said:

Writing a comic and directing a film are vastly, totally, completely different. They are not even in the same zip code.

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Well of course there not the same thing. I didn't mean to imply that they were- My point is that whedon, at the very least, knows his way around the marvel Universe, and if astonishing X-men is any clue, he'll present them in a way that is true to the characters. Which is good for me, a comic fan, but for a movie fan the point is kind of moot.