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So, FIFA announced the winning bidders for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup, and it just so happens it was the two countries highly suspected of submitting bribes with their proposals, Russia and Qatar.

Russia beat out slight favorite England, which hasn't hosted since 1966. This is suspect, but not disastrous, as Russia has several facilities in place, a decent national squad, and has never hosted before.

As for Qatar, they barely have a national soccer team, have no FIFA-quality facilities, and beat out the USA bid, meaning heavy 2026 favorite China is now out of the running there as well (same continent can't host two straight Cups). This one is heavily fishy, although they did put together a nice Youtube video describing what facilities might look like when they build them, with the plans to make them "portable" so they can tear them down afterwards and ship them to other countries.

Eh, this is highly suspicious. Even if Russia already has some facilities, the other countries are better equipped and the facilities are reasonably close. No comment on Qatar, it'is absurd.

Still, I think it's cool for Russia to host it anyhow.

Besides, FiFA being corrupt isnt really news.

Fifa exists to generate large sums of cash. It seems these decisions are in line with their real motivation.

No no no...FIFA exists to promote Football.

Which in turn generates a ton of cash.

So yeah.

First Lady Puffinstuff said:

Fifa exists to generate large sums of cash. It seems these decisions are in line with their real motivation.

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I don't know, I think there would be more money in the long run hosting in the US than Qatar. Between advertising, promotion and attendance, the US would far outpace any of the other bids in revenue generation.

After they showed who won, my news station had a report on the outlook for South Africa. They are expecting the majority of buildings created for the world coup will not be able to support themselves financially and are going to be a huge future burden on the economy of the country. I'm thinking the same will be true for Qatar, they simply lack the population to sustain stadiums like the ones needed for this event.

Those concept designs for the Qatar stadiums were effin' sweet. Corruption never looked so good!

I want to start the Russian culture of the vuvuzela now.

Dave said:

I want to start the Russian culture of the vuvuzela now.

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They'll just bring vodka bottles to the stadium.

Does the "no two continents in a row" rule mean Russia's stadiums have to stay in the European part?

sixpackshaker;456864][QUOTE=Dave said:

I want to start the Russian culture of the vuvuzela now.

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They'll just bring vodka bottles to the stadium.[/QUOTE]

"Everything is good when you have enough Vodka"

I hope by next world cup they ban the vuvulelas or find anti-vuvu tech so I don't get HEADACHES while watching soccer games.

Last year, I watched less than 5 games. 4 years ago I watched at least 30. I can't take that retardation.

HCGLNS said:

After they showed who won, my news station had a report on the outlook for South Africa. They are expecting the majority of buildings created for the world coup will not be able to support themselves financially and are going to be a huge future burden on the economy of the country. I'm thinking the same will be true for Qatar, they simply lack the population to sustain stadiums like the ones needed for this event.

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Qatar is mad oil rich yo.

Jay said:

I hope by next world cup they ban the vuvulelas or find anti-vuvu tech so I don't get HEADACHES while watching soccer games.

Last year, I watched less than 5 games. 4 years ago I watched at least 30. I can't take that retardation.

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I think people would pay for a service that real time broadcasts audio over the internet with good sports announcers that one can play while watching the series. Mute the TV, turn on the internet announcer, and you're good to go.

I'm glad Belgium didn't get it. I hoped for Spain or England tho

Very good analysis of the situation:

Qatar a Questionable World Cup Host - NYTimes.com

I like it particularly because it gives the relationship of each nation to football, as well as information regarding expected attendance and regional citizenship.

Choosing Qatar for World Cup 2022: 100 Degrees and No Beer - Just A Minute with Harry Smith - CBS News

another interesting (is it true?)

no beer???? that is gonna be rough on sports fans. 100 degrees all the time? the women might like it.

Chibibar said:

Choosing Qatar for World Cup 2022: 100 Degrees and No Beer - Just A Minute with Harry Smith - CBS News

another interesting (is it true?)

no beer???? that is gonna be rough on sports fans. 100 degrees all the time? the women might like it.

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Alcohol is illegal in the country. As far as women liking the weather, not if they have to follow the country's laws and remain completely covered at all times.

Piotyr;457093][QUOTE=Chibibar said:

Choosing Qatar for World Cup 2022: 100 Degrees and No Beer - Just A Minute with Harry Smith - CBS News

another interesting (is it true?)

no beer???? that is gonna be rough on sports fans. 100 degrees all the time? the women might like it.

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Alcohol is illegal in the country. As far as women liking the weather, not if they have to follow the country's laws and remain completely covered at all times.[/QUOTE]

what I mean (my brain didn't type what is going on in my head)

100 degree weather = sweaty soccer player = hot to some women.

Chibibar;457144][QUOTE=Piotyr;457093][QUOTE=Chibibar said:

Choosing Qatar for World Cup 2022: 100 Degrees and No Beer - Just A Minute with Harry Smith - CBS News

another interesting (is it true?)

no beer???? that is gonna be rough on sports fans. 100 degrees all the time? the women might like it.

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Alcohol is illegal in the country. As far as women liking the weather, not if they have to follow the country's laws and remain completely covered at all times.[/QUOTE]

what I mean (my brain didn't type what is going on in my head)

100 degree weather = sweaty soccer player = hot to some women.[/QUOTE]

Athlete's bodies are trained to shuck water like crazy because athletes keep hydrated and need to keep their body temperature regulated. This means that while under stress even in conditions that you would think would preclude sweating they will sweat like crazy.

For example I was in a wrestling tournament in northern New York which was in an unheated side building to their gym. Mats as hard as rock due to the cold. I still came off them drenched in sweat.

My point is that guys running around in any temperature will get very sweaty. The temp being 100 degrees will only make the ladies feel disgusting and unamorous.

The temperature isn't an issue as far as the competition goes: all the stadiums will be air conditioned.

First Lady Puffinstuff said:

I think people would pay for a service that real time broadcasts audio over the internet with good sports announcers that one can play while watching the series. Mute the TV, turn on the internet announcer, and you're good to go.

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Sadly, that's not good enough. I enjoy the "stadium" ambiance. The cheering and jeering, the songs people sing, the chants, the celebration. It's a great part of soccer. I couldn't hear any of that because a swarm of bees muted all of that.

Your suggestion has merit and I'd rather take that then the retardation of Africa. But banning music baring devices would be the BEST choice.

Jay said:

I hope by next world cup they ban the vuvulelas or find anti-vuvu tech so I don't get HEADACHES while watching soccer games. Last year, I watched less than 5 games. 4 years ago I watched at least 30. I can't take that retardation.

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I mentioned it before, but maybe it got overlooked. If the sound source you're using has an equalizer, you can essentially tune out the vuvuzelas. Just Google "vuvuzela filter"

What makes you think I watch most games from the comfort of my own home? Or have the inclination to go out of my way to remove something that makes a lot of a people stop watching soccer games?

Jay said:

What makes you think I watch most games from the comfort of my own home? Or have the inclination to go out of my way to remove something that makes a lot of a people stop watching soccer games?

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If you're at a bar or otherwise have no control, yeah it sucks. But if you're just too lazy to do something about it, well, whatever.

I'm sorry that I'm being an inconvenience to you for getting physically ill by the drone of bees during the last World Cup and would like to watch the great sport of soccer without such noise pollution drilling into my skull without having to resort to being forced to watch it at home ON MY COMPUTER like some loner. I'm sorry that my interest of being able to watch this great sport in a sports bar surrounded by friends while drinking Guinness without the drone of bees killing everyone's fun too hard to realize for some who, evidently, don't leave their homes. Heck, to be able to flic on the TV and watch a game of soccer without anti-vuvuzela condom tech to protect me from being raped sonically.

Jay said:

What makes you think I watch most games from the comfort of my own home? Or have the inclination to go out of my way to remove something that makes a lot of a people stop watching soccer games?

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It's true that if you're unwilling to change then the only solution is to make other people change.

Good luck!

Does anyone read between the lines in posts anymore or do they just do stupid assumptions?

Jay said:

Does anyone read between the lines in posts anymore or do they just do stupid assumptions?

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A little from column A, and little from column B.

Although I have to admit that your statement reeks of irony. Reading between the lines requires one to make assumptions - and stupid is in the eye of the beholder.

Honestly I'm not trying to attack you. You expressed a dislike for a feature of the last series. We suggested a bevy of solutions. You rejected all our solutions and indicated that the only solution was to ban them.

I re-wrote all of that into the simple statement - if you are not going to change, and still demand change, then you are requiring others to change.

Sorry if I'm not understanding the situation, or if I'm offending you in any way, but so far the logic of the conversations and the results appear to be sound, so if there's reading between the lines that needs to occur, assumptions that need to be discarded, then perhaps you could further enlighten us so that we can see the faults in our perspective.

It's very simple actually: in many places it's normal to watch this games with other people someplace, like a bar, where you do not have equalizing or anything like it.

Don't worry about vuvulelas in Russia, they will be too drunk to blow.

tegid said:

It's very simple actually: in many places it's normal to watch this games with other people someplace, like a bar, where you do not have equalizing or anything like it.

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Hallelujah.

+ to rep

I found the sound annoying too especially when we go to a sports bar. Now I'm sure most bars will probably have some sort of filter now, but I'm sure next year someone will get something else annoying to play.

Jay said:

I'm sorry that I'm being an inconvenience to you for getting physically ill by the drone of bees during the last World Cup and would like to watch the great sport of soccer without such noise pollution drilling into my skull without having to resort to being forced to watch it at home ON MY COMPUTER like some loner. I'm sorry that my interest of being able to watch this great sport in a sports bar surrounded by friends while drinking Guinness without the drone of bees killing everyone's fun too hard to realize for some who, evidently, don't leave their homes. Heck, to be able to flic on the TV and watch a game of soccer without anti-vuvuzela condom tech to protect me from being raped sonically.

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So then go to a bar where the owner/employees aren't morons and have figured out that you can equalize out the vuvuzelas? :noidea: Shit ain't rocket science. Or if by chance you're a regular at the bar you're watching the games at, where you probably know the bartenders/waitstaff, you could just make the suggestion to them. Or hell, just get a bunch of your friends at someone's house and watch.There's stuff you can do about it besides whine like a bitch on the internet.

And as I mentioned, you can do this directly on a tv, you don't need a computer. Unless you have some bunk-ass cathode tube relic, odds are good your tv has a user EQ setting.

Also, thanks for essentially calling me a shut-in loser for trying to help you enjoy your favorite game. I appreciate it.

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Dumb, rude and crude, huh? I guess I hit the trifecta.

drifter;457733][QUOTE=Jay said:

I'm sorry that I'm being an inconvenience to you for getting physically ill by the drone of bees during the last World Cup and would like to watch the great sport of soccer without such noise pollution drilling into my skull without having to resort to being forced to watch it at home ON MY COMPUTER like some loner. I'm sorry that my interest of being able to watch this great sport in a sports bar surrounded by friends while drinking Guinness without the drone of bees killing everyone's fun too hard to realize for some who, evidently, don't leave their homes. Heck, to be able to flic on the TV and watch a game of soccer without anti-vuvuzela condom tech to protect me from being raped sonically.

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So then go to a bar where the owner/employees aren't morons and have figured out that you can equalize out the vuvuzelas? :noidea: Shit ain't rocket science. Or if by chance you're a regular at the bar you're watching the games at, where you probably know the bartenders/waitstaff, you could just make the suggestion to them. Or hell, just get a bunch of your friends at someone's house and watch.There's stuff you can do about it besides whine like a bitch on the internet.

And as I mentioned, you can do this directly on a tv, you don't need a computer. Unless you have some bunk-ass cathode tube relic, odds are good your tv has a user EQ setting.

Also, thanks for essentially calling me a shut-in loser for trying to help you enjoy your favorite game. I appreciate it.

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Dumb, rude and crude, huh? I guess I hit the trifecta.[/QUOTE]


Waiting... (2005) - IMDb

drifter;457733][QUOTE=Jay said:

I'm sorry that I'm being an inconvenience to you for getting physically ill by the drone of bees during the last World Cup and would like to watch the great sport of soccer without such noise pollution drilling into my skull without having to resort to being forced to watch it at home ON MY COMPUTER like some loner. I'm sorry that my interest of being able to watch this great sport in a sports bar surrounded by friends while drinking Guinness without the drone of bees killing everyone's fun too hard to realize for some who, evidently, don't leave their homes. Heck, to be able to flic on the TV and watch a game of soccer without anti-vuvuzela condom tech to protect me from being raped sonically.

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So then go to a bar where the owner/employees aren't morons and have figured out that you can equalize out the vuvuzelas? :noidea: Shit ain't rocket science. Or if by chance you're a regular at the bar you're watching the games at, where you probably know the bartenders/waitstaff, you could just make the suggestion to them. Or hell, just get a bunch of your friends at someone's house and watch.There's stuff you can do about it besides whine like a bitch on the internet.

And as I mentioned, you can do this directly on a tv, you don't need a computer. Unless you have some bunk-ass cathode tube relic, odds are good your tv has a user EQ setting.

Also, thanks for essentially calling me a shut-in loser for trying to help you enjoy your favorite game. I appreciate it.

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Dumb, rude and crude, huh? I guess I hit the trifecta.[/QUOTE]

This is silly. You really think a bar is going to go out of it's way to tweak the fucking EQ on their 200 tvs hanging from the ceilings?

I remember the first time I heard the vuvuzela. I was sitting in a hospital emergency room with a prisoner who had faked a seizure. The droning noise started to wear on me to the point where when I found out where it was coming from I was ready to put a bullet in it. True story.

200? I don't think I've ever been in a bar that has more than 20. I would expect only the match showing on the big screens would have sound piped through; setting the EQ for the house system would not be a big deal, I would think. Granted, asking them to change the EQ is largely only feasible if you're a regular, or a generous tipper. Finding a bar that's already figured it out is probably the best bet.

You're reaching.

Jay, I'm glad to find others who hated the vuvuzela whine as much as I do. I basically watched two games and then refused to watch anymore as the drone was intolerable. I like stadium ambience but that was just plain stupid and constant noise.

For myself, I don't have a fancy sound system with an equalizer and if I couldn't watch the game on my big screen TV I certainly wasn't going to try and watch it on my crappy computer monitor.

Fuck vuvuzelas.

Also, FIFA are a bunch of wankers... Russia... not such a bad choice in the grand scheme of things? Qatar? They must be getting some damn good bribes for that bullshit.