Than I fail to see a problem. Full speed ahead!those things are superficial and I did get past them...
Just being around her makes me feel happier than I ever did in the long term relationships I was in before. We've only been dating about 2 weeks, but I can already see more potential in her than I ever did in my past....
You can encourage her to develop new tastes, but to imply that you can change her as though she were a dress up doll . . . .That's how I feel about it. The "issues" are more of just a ridiculous nagging thought in the back of my mind. Ie: Will my family like her due to her age. Will I ever have to defend her against idiots who make fun of her. Should I try and get her to change her eating/dressing habits or be happy with the way she is etc.
Negative Nancy!She's 20, you have kids. You have responsibilities, she has anime conventions. I'm not saying it's doomed, I'm just saying that you've got more complications to your life, so just enjoy this for what it is and don't put any expectations on it.
Negative Nancy!She's 20, you have kids. You have responsibilities, she has anime conventions. I'm not saying it's doomed, I'm just saying that you've got more complications to your life, so just enjoy this for what it is and don't put any expectations on it.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm talking about. The age isn't the thing, the complications are. If you were both unencumbered, then it would be fine. That is not the situation here.I don't think Null's comment is so much about the age difference, but about the difference in their lives. A carefree 20 year old woman might not want to be saddled with the responsibility of raising 2 children who are not her own (granted, this relationship is only 2 weeks old, but this is assuming it continues into more serious territory). There is a difference between a 20 year old who seemingly has a lot of freedom and a 29 year old with quite a bit of responsibilities to consider.
I'm Cobra Star. You on the other hand, were El Juski.who are you? All these people with their name changes my gosh
Honestly, the only people who can decide if you two are right for each other are you and her. Any advice from us wouldn't be on a limited amount of information, no matter how much you tell us. We also don't have her perspective on the relationship and what she hopes to get out of it.
However it turns out, good luck
A lisp. Or a wisp. Or a lithp. Or a withp.I used to have a speech impediment. A couple really. I stuttered, and I did the "w for r" thing as well.
You had my impediments!I used to have a speech impediment. A couple really. I stuttered, and I did the "w for r" thing as well.
I usually rehearse what I'm going to say a split second before I say it, and that helps the stuttering. I've gotten good enough at it I hardly know I'm doing it now. But if I'm tired, surprised, or you catch me off guard, or I let my mouth outrun my brain, wham, there it is. The w thing slips out every now and then too. It doesn't bug me nearly as much as it used to.
She sounds like a decent gal. I hope things work out.
When did I even come close to that being my opinion? If anything there are more instances of me contricting it than helping it. Also, when did I call her homely? What the hell. Not only are words being taken the wrong way, now they're just outright being put in my mouth?That's the feeling I'm getting now. You can replace the "my advice" with "in my opinion" in any of the replies. Would that help?
I'm saying that I've seen MANY newbies and delurkers attacked back into the shadows/off the boards because of outright misunderstandings and pounding accusations. It's grown as the community has shrank.Re-read this very paragraph and you might get an idea. Your wording doesn't really come across as friendly but more like condescending and passive aggressive (defensive?). Are you saying this forum changed the day you came out of lurking and started posting threads?
Not quite sure what you want us to do. No one was inflammatory and the advice suggestions (even if you didn't want it) weren't offensive. If you have been reading the forums as long as you say, I can't imagine you think it's worse than it was back in the Image days.Well that's funnier than actually acknowledging a problem I suppose....
Thank you for putting my thoughts a feelings into words.I know the "attacking" is being done by me. I can only tell you what I see from my perspective based on what you have posted. In the OP you talk about how she is not as "hot" as the women you typically date. You make it a point to let us know she's short, chubby, and not very feminine. I hope she never comes on here to see how you have worded the OP. I know if I was dating someone and they pointed out all of my "flaws" like that to a group of strangers, I would be reduced to tears. Especially when you say her looks did bug you (they are "hurdles" according to the OP), but you've gotten over it now - as if she's a consolation prize. And to top it off, you come on here to post about her while she's at your house, leaving her with your brother and his GF. She sounds like a buddy instead of a woman you are really into.
Sorry if you don't like what I have to say. I try to be honest with people and unfortunately I don't cover it with sugar and sprinkles. I'm sure you'll get over this hurdle as well.
Great. Now I want cupcakes.[/QUOTE]sugar and sprinkles
Thank you for putting my thoughts a feelings into words.I know the "attacking" is being done by me. I can only tell you what I see from my perspective based on what you have posted. In the OP you talk about how she is not as "hot" as the women you typically date. You make it a point to let us know she's short, chubby, and not very feminine. I hope she never comes on here to see how you have worded the OP. I know if I was dating someone and they pointed out all of my "flaws" like that to a group of strangers, I would be reduced to tears. Especially when you say her looks did bug you (they are "hurdles" according to the OP), but you've gotten over it now - as if she's a consolation prize. And to top it off, you come on here to post about her while she's at your house, leaving her with your brother and his GF. She sounds like a buddy instead of a woman you are really into.
Sorry if you don't like what I have to say. I try to be honest with people and unfortunately I don't cover it with sugar and sprinkles. I'm sure you'll get over this hurdle as well.
who are you? All these people with their name changes my gosh
Thank you for putting my thoughts a feelings into words.I know the "attacking" is being done by me. I can only tell you what I see from my perspective based on what you have posted. In the OP you talk about how she is not as "hot" as the women you typically date. You make it a point to let us know she's short, chubby, and not very feminine. I hope she never comes on here to see how you have worded the OP. I know if I was dating someone and they pointed out all of my "flaws" like that to a group of strangers, I would be reduced to tears. Especially when you say her looks did bug you (they are "hurdles" according to the OP), but you've gotten over it now - as if she's a consolation prize. And to top it off, you come on here to post about her while she's at your house, leaving her with your brother and his GF. She sounds like a buddy instead of a woman you are really into.
Sorry if you don't like what I have to say. I try to be honest with people and unfortunately I don't cover it with sugar and sprinkles. I'm sure you'll get over this hurdle as well.
Don't bring in your personal laundry if you don't want folks to tell you how dirty it is.
I didn't see anyone attacking anyone else. I saw folks giving advice, and some folks congratulating. If you don't want the advice of the forum, avoid posting personal threads.
You should feel happy b/c the forum swallows up most that post personal threads.
Everyone comes here for some sort of validation. Yes he seems to be changing. None of us are a fully self aware Buddha.IMO, if he was truly growing he wouldn't feel the need for validation over this new relationship from the members of an internet message board.
Especially since no one has ripped into you for posting about personal relationships.What a shit storm.... a hilarious one.... but a shit storm none the less.
Especially since no one has ripped into you for posting about personal relationships.[/QUOTE]What a shit storm.... a hilarious one.... but a shit storm none the less.
Especially since no one has ripped into you for posting about personal relationships.[/QUOTE]What a shit storm.... a hilarious one.... but a shit storm none the less.
There is a difference between "I want to share" and "I'm going to share, ask for your opinion, then balk when I don't like what you say to me". Also, sharing that you have met someone great who you like despite not being your usual type is a whole lot different than laying out what their flaws are in detail. While he says he's over it, I don't have much faith that it is true or else those "hurdles" would not still be talked about as such. They sound like they are still a prominent thought or else it wouldn't have mattered enough to mention.I have come here with stories of pooping. Sometimes you just want to share.
Besides, had I first posted about my wife and I when we first dated I'd have said the following things:
Imagine how that would have sounded. A lot like the OP, I assume. He's acknowledging that the girl is not the usual type he goes for and that is okay. It means that he's attracted to her aside from the preconceived notions of what his "type" is. Sounds to me like he is growing as a person. That he may not have communicated it perfectly is neither here nor there. They like each other and that's all that matters.
- She smokes. I have always said I'll never date a woman who smoked.
- She has a kid. Nope. Never going to date a woman with a kid.
- She's a tad on the heavy side. I usually date women more my size (at the time I weighted 120 pounds or so).
- I met her at a bar. I usually hate women I meet at bars.
I agree with you here... but I have a gut feeling that he may have been trying to say that he did meet someone great despite her not being his usual type and it didn't translate well from what he was thinking in his mind.Also, sharing that you have met someone great who you like despite not being your usual type is a whole lot different than laying out what their flaws are in detail.
http://www.halforums.com/forum/show...carus-Syndrome&p=401088&viewfull=1#post401088Ok, I outright apologize for how I seemed to have worded the situation all together.
She's a fantastic girl and she's quirky. She's more down to Earth than anyone I've ever been with and while at first I thought it was a negative, it's really turning into an awesome positive.
She cute, she's funny, she loves alot of the same things I do and being with her is easy and not a chore or a game at all. There is an issue with her age, being 8yrs younger than me. Though she has had her share of misfortunes in life and can be serious and mature when the time calls for it. I can see her growing with me, while still teaching me to forget some of the drama I've had in my life with her as a fresh start. First impressions are sometimes what people judge off of, I'm glad I didn't go off of it and it's beginning to look like a real positive relationship.
Despite a shakey OP, I really do wish you the best. Everyone deserves to be happy.
EDIT: I just noticed that I got negative rep for something I said in this thread and told to "grow up". Was it the quatation mark thing, I wonder? Or was it because I told Tin we were speech buddies? Decisions, decisions.
http://www.halforums.com/forum/t138...carus-Syndrome&p=401088&viewfull=1#post401088Ok, I outright apologize for how I seemed to have worded the situation all together.
She's a fantastic girl and she's quirky. She's more down to Earth than anyone I've ever been with and while at first I thought it was a negative, it's really turning into an awesome positive.
She cute, she's funny, she loves alot of the same things I do and being with her is easy and not a chore or a game at all. There is an issue with her age, being 8yrs younger than me. Though she has had her share of misfortunes in life and can be serious and mature when the time calls for it. I can see her growing with me, while still teaching me to forget some of the drama I've had in my life with her as a fresh start. First impressions are sometimes what people judge off of, I'm glad I didn't go off of it and it's beginning to look like a real positive relationship.
Despite a shakey OP, I really do wish you the best. Everyone deserves to be happy.
EDIT: I just noticed that I got negative rep for something I said in this thread and told to "grow up". Was it the quatation mark thing, I wonder? Or was it because I told Tin we were speech buddies? Decisions, decisions.
Does she know you have kids? And if not, when are you dropping that bomb on her?Ok, I outright apologize for how I seemed to have worded the situation all together.
She's a fantastic girl and she's quirky. She's more down to Earth than anyone I've ever been with and while at first I thought it was a negative, it's really turning into an awesome positive.
She cute, she's funny, she loves alot of the same things I do and being with her is easy and not a chore or a game at all. There is an issue with her age, being 8yrs younger than me. Though she has had her share of misfortunes in life and can be serious and mature when the time calls for it. I can see her growing with me, while still teaching me to forget some of the drama I've had in my life with her as a fresh start. First impressions are sometimes what people judge off of, I'm glad I didn't go off of it and it's beginning to look like a real positive relationship.
Told her on the 3rd date. She's excited to meet them and asked a million questions about their personalities and likes/dislikes. I did make it clear that I wasn't looking for a new "mom" for them though.Does she know you have kids? And if not, when are you dropping that bomb on her?
what were the questions?To those of you who've known couples or are a couple with an age gap, I ask a few questions of morality.... (I apologize in advance if any of this comes out the wrong way, I seem to have a tendency to not quite put into text the way that I'm feeling, just know that what I post is with the best of intentions and not meant in a malicious or demeaning manner)
Things are going very very well, though concerns have bubbled up. Problems that shouldn't be problems seem to be showing up. Not sure exactly how to put it. Due to her age, she has only been in one serious relationship before. It was from 17-20 and she lived with him for 1 year. They've been split for around 8 months when we met. Since she's been living on her own she spends alot of time at her parents place (down the street from where she lives) or over here at my brother's place. She's never really lived alone as she went from her parents house to her bf's house. She's currently only working 3 days a month (medical tests) so she's got ALOT of free time. I don't. She wants to be over here everyday (an issue as my brother's gf really doesn't like her, so when she's over it's very uneasy. We spend most of our time in my bedroom watching movies.), or just wants to be with me the entire day. Now, I'm a "attached at the hip" kind of guy in a relationship. I LOVE being around the person I'm with as much as possible, the issue comes from the fact that due to my current situation (work starting soon, moving soon, back and forth visiting my kids) I don't have alot of time to give her and feel guilty when I have to tell her I can't see her. Not really sure what to do. I tell her that I'm not avoiding her and that I'd love to see her, but some days it's just not possible.
Next issue: Moving too fast. The number one thing my brother warned me about when I started dating her, was not to do the same mistake as in my past (married 1st girl in 3 months due to pregnancy, moved in with 2nd girl within 6 months) so I'm trying not to. The thing is, this girl has blown me away in so many aspects. Every girl I've dated before I had to "shy away" from the kind of person I am (geek, gamer, overly affectionate, etc) but not with her. She embraces and reflects all of my personalities, which makes me so at ease around her that I find myself just staring "into" her every moment she's around. So what does this mean? We moved kind of fast. Again I think this is due to her inexperience in relationships and only really knowing one way of "being with someone". We slept together on our 5th date, she's slept over at least 5-6 times now, though I tried holding back on using the "L" word (it wasn't that I wasn't feeling overwhelming emotion for her, it's just that I wasn't sure if I should so soon) I told her around the 9th date that I did. Now this is as far as I'll allow it to go. My brother is worried that I'll move out and in with her in a matter of weeks/months but I tried to assure him that it wasn't the case. I know that some people date for long periods of time before getting emotionally involved, some sleep together for a good while before it comes into play, though I feel the difference comes from the amount of time we spend together. A new couple may see each other 4-6 hrs a day, 3 days a week. I've been seeing her 5-6 days a week, 6-10hrs a day. Not sure if that validates anything but we have been getting close, quickly, because of it. Does one measure "too fast" by how much time is spent together, or how many "days" you've known someone? I'm not quite sure.
All I know is how I feel when she's around. It's a feeling I've never really experienced before and it feels amazing. That's really the best way I can put it. These "issues" are minor and not deal breaking in anyway, just concerns I have that I would like OPINIONS on. :biggrin:
what were the questions?[/QUOTE]To those of you who've known couples or are a couple with an age gap, I ask a few questions of morality.... (I apologize in advance if any of this comes out the wrong way, I seem to have a tendency to not quite put into text the way that I'm feeling, just know that what I post is with the best of intentions and not meant in a malicious or demeaning manner)
Things are going very very well, though concerns have bubbled up. Problems that shouldn't be problems seem to be showing up. Not sure exactly how to put it. Due to her age, she has only been in one serious relationship before. It was from 17-20 and she lived with him for 1 year. They've been split for around 8 months when we met. Since she's been living on her own she spends alot of time at her parents place (down the street from where she lives) or over here at my brother's place. She's never really lived alone as she went from her parents house to her bf's house. She's currently only working 3 days a month (medical tests) so she's got ALOT of free time. I don't. She wants to be over here everyday (an issue as my brother's gf really doesn't like her, so when she's over it's very uneasy. We spend most of our time in my bedroom watching movies.), or just wants to be with me the entire day. Now, I'm a "attached at the hip" kind of guy in a relationship. I LOVE being around the person I'm with as much as possible, the issue comes from the fact that due to my current situation (work starting soon, moving soon, back and forth visiting my kids) I don't have alot of time to give her and feel guilty when I have to tell her I can't see her. Not really sure what to do. I tell her that I'm not avoiding her and that I'd love to see her, but some days it's just not possible.
Next issue: Moving too fast. The number one thing my brother warned me about when I started dating her, was not to do the same mistake as in my past (married 1st girl in 3 months due to pregnancy, moved in with 2nd girl within 6 months) so I'm trying not to. The thing is, this girl has blown me away in so many aspects. Every girl I've dated before I had to "shy away" from the kind of person I am (geek, gamer, overly affectionate, etc) but not with her. She embraces and reflects all of my personalities, which makes me so at ease around her that I find myself just staring "into" her every moment she's around. So what does this mean? We moved kind of fast. Again I think this is due to her inexperience in relationships and only really knowing one way of "being with someone". We slept together on our 5th date, she's slept over at least 5-6 times now, though I tried holding back on using the "L" word (it wasn't that I wasn't feeling overwhelming emotion for her, it's just that I wasn't sure if I should so soon) I told her around the 9th date that I did. Now this is as far as I'll allow it to go. My brother is worried that I'll move out and in with her in a matter of weeks/months but I tried to assure him that it wasn't the case. I know that some people date for long periods of time before getting emotionally involved, some sleep together for a good while before it comes into play, though I feel the difference comes from the amount of time we spend together. A new couple may see each other 4-6 hrs a day, 3 days a week. I've been seeing her 5-6 days a week, 6-10hrs a day. Not sure if that validates anything but we have been getting close, quickly, because of it. Does one measure "too fast" by how much time is spent together, or how many "days" you've known someone? I'm not quite sure.
All I know is how I feel when she's around. It's a feeling I've never really experienced before and it feels amazing. That's really the best way I can put it. These "issues" are minor and not deal breaking in anyway, just concerns I have that I would like OPINIONS on. :biggrin:
The age/life difference between us, is it a real issue or something that can easily be worked on? The moving too fast, something real or more of a person-to-person basis kind of thing? Sorry I didn't make that more clear.what were the questions?
Thanks WS. I get that I should give her some space to try and learn to stand on her own feet for a bit, I just can't help but want to be around her as often as I'm able. :blush: As for the kids situation? Yeah that's a real hurdle that will be coming in August that I look forward to seeing how it plays out. I'm not sure if it's wrong or not, but I think the fact that she's so inexperienced at relationships is one of the biggest reasons I like being with her. She doesn't bring any emotional baggage or distrust from previous "burns". She's always so optomistic, much like I used to be and it's nice to have this "chance not to fuck things up" again.Age and maturity are two different things. She honestly sounds like she has some growing up to do. Can it be worked on? I would say yes, but it takes time and it also will mean she needs to learn to be independent. Can't do that if you're glued at the hip. What's going to happen when you need to take care of your kids and she can't be with you? Will she get jealous of the time you spend with them? If you ask her straight out, of course the answer will be no. When it really does happen will be the telling tale. I do think in this case you have a real issue on your hands since she apparently doesn't like being alone. And given your track record of jumping into serious relationships quickly, I would say you need to slow down, step back for a minute, and evaluate what is going on here.
^-- I have to agree. You don't want to confuse your kids. especially if they are young kids. If they are teenagers, then no worries but younger.. not so muchMy word of advice is keep g/f's away from your kids. Especially if you don't have the intention of marriage. Kids tend to latch onto your friends. And if they are not around long, it gets confusing for the kids.
By the way, I'm 20, sweetheart ¬¬Morphine is 19 and I'm 25 and we're getting married when she turns 21 at Las Vegas. Chewbacca will be our minister. Elvis will also be there, for some reason. She says. I don't want no stupid elvis.
Stupid 19 year olds and their Elvis.
Everyone who's been in relationships says that.As far as honeymoon part? Perhaps on her side. I've been in enough relationships to have felt the difference.