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I can definitely support this. It is a good step I believe. It is a small step that maybe.... just maybe, same sex marriage is available to everyone (i.e. same GOVERNMENT benefits for all)

Chibibar said:

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I can definitely support this. It is a good step I believe. It is a small step that maybe.... just maybe, same sex marriage is available to everyone (i.e. same GOVERNMENT benefits for all)

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Somehow, I thought that transgender/sexual orientation was already protected in regards to hiring decisions.

I'm gad someone else was paying attention then.

TeKeo;373959][QUOTE=Chibibar said:

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I can definitely support this. It is a good step I believe. It is a small step that maybe.... just maybe, same sex marriage is available to everyone (i.e. same GOVERNMENT benefits for all)

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Somehow, I thought that transgender/sexual orientation was already protected in regards to hiring decisions.[/QUOTE]
It is at my company. IBM also instituted policies protecting sex and race before the US Federal government.

TeKeo said:

Somehow, I thought that transgender/sexual orientation was already protected in regards to hiring decisions.

I'm gad someone else was paying attention then.

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Gender identity is left out of a lot of anti-discrimination protections, even when sexual orientation is in there. Organizations like the HRC tend to use the T in LGBT as a bargaining chip and throw transgendered rights under the bus.

Speaking of a letter dropping from LGBT, you hear about the bisexuals that the Gay Softball World Series banned for not being "gay enough?"

Yep, fucking ridiculous.

All the opposition is going to have to do to derail this is raise the image of a flamboyantly attired transgender man teaching their kindergarten class. It needn't have any merit or base in reality, but this will go down in flames just through the use of mental imagery in people's minds.

When I saw the ad for this discussion. I almost fell out of my chair.

And his name will be Transgender Bill.

He will date House and call him "Horse".

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I'm comparing a single incident in a softball league against something that is allowed by state law in over half of the country

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I find it amusing that the first line of defense for social conservatives is "think of the children!".

JONJONAUG;374556][QUOTE=GasBandit said:

I'm comparing a single incident in a softball league against something that is allowed by state law in over half of the country

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I find it amusing that the first line of defense for social conservatives is "think of the children!".[/QUOTE]

Nice straw man. I didn't do anything of the sort, it's just what he said reminded me of something else I read today. You muppet.

Yeah I was wondering what that post was about.

The gay community can be really insular when it comes to our own. Bisexuals tend to be completely fucking invisible at best and outright despised and hated at worst. Transgendered people are always the first ones to be thrown under the bus, as I said, when trying to hammer out rights issues. That's why I don't really like the HRC. They tend to do everything behind closed doors, repeat whatever the party line is about incremental gay rights or whatever, and never do anything that could be too "controversial" like insisting on anti-discrimination protections for trans people or pushing the administration for a strong and clear stance for repealing DADT instead of the vague wishy-washy bullshit the administration has been pulling.