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#1

figmentPez

figmentPez

I figure there are a lot of bits of video game news worth a post or three, but not really enough for their own thread.

To start off, I offer the Batman: Arkham City trailer that debuted at the VGA awards tonight. Damn, I'm looking forward to this one. Arkham Asylum was great, and this trailer definitely ups the ante.


#2

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

:shocked:

Excuse me. I'll just be over here, geeking out.


#3



Jiarn

That's was bloody fantastic, looking forward to it very much.


#4

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

What... what...


...Whoa.


#5

Jay

Jay

OH SHIIIIII


#6

Cog

Cog

A trailer for a game is not available in my country? For the first time in my life: wtf?


#7

Gusto

Gusto

Man.

I'm gonna have a lot of games to play next Fall/Winter.


#8

Seraphyn

Seraphyn

TES 5 so soon :D

I knew they were working on it, but it coming in less then a year really took me by surprise. Can't wait.


#9

figmentPez

figmentPez

Seraphyn said:
TES 5 so soon :D

I knew they were working on it, but it coming in less then a year really took me by surprise. Can't wait.
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Hmm, intriguing. On one hand if the game engine is a big step up from Fallout 3, then it will probably make my system cry for mercy. On the other hand, consoles are still on the same generation, so they may not have pushed things enough to make it unplayable. I'll have to keep an eye on this one.


#10



Overflight

Good news: SSX is coming back! To current gen consoles! Bad news: ...it's a reboot. A Darker and Edgier reboot:

According to the site's official writeup, SSX: Deadly Descents tells the story of a team seeking " to be the first to descend the faces of the most treacherous mountain ranges on the planet." The globetrotting snowboard supercrossers will be shredding down the Himalayas, Patagonia, the Alps and ice ranges of Antarctica. Players will be battling both the mountain and a rival team seeking the same claim as yours.
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Several internet comments are already dubbing this game "SSX: Black Ops", "Call Of SSX: Winter Warfare" and variants on the basis of a single teaser. To those people I ask this: yes, they did replace your beloved wacky characters with afros and J-pop attire with generic winter clothing wearing cyphers, but seriously how badly can an attempt to turn a cartoony arcadey game into a dead serious affair be?




...oh, right.


#11

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

They ARE using some interesting new technology though, which helps make the mountains you can go down as close to their real locations as possible. That's pretty cool.


#12

Espy

Espy

Droooooool.


#13



Chibibar

figmentPez said:
I figure there are a lot of bits of video game news worth a post or three, but not really enough for their own thread.

To start off, I offer the Batman: Arkham City trailer that debuted at the VGA awards tonight. Damn, I'm looking forward to this one. Arkham Asylum was great, and this trailer definitely ups the ante.
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It is sooooo pretty.


#14

linglingface

linglingface

Ooh ooh I have one!

How about Kratos being announced for the new Mortal Kombat game on the PS3? :D :D


#15



Overflight

Yeah, I thought that was cool too. After all both franchises are steeped in ultra violence (I think God of War III might be the most violent game I ever played) so he fits right in.

..or at least better than in this:



...I wouldn't want to be HIS caddy.


#16

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

What? I don't even.... WHAT?!?


#17



Overflight

What really gets me is not so much the fact that he's there but how his body was hideously deformed to match the other characters' proportions. It's friggin creepy.


#18

Wahad

Wahad

It makes him look rather harmless, actually. Something I hadn't expected when thinking of Kratos.

But yes, I echo the previous statement of ''what''.


#19



Overflight

Speaking of "what":

Sega Is Making A Game You Can Piss On

...goddamnit, Japan. :facepalm:


#20



Jiarn

Another game that will never see a release on American soil.... and thank god.


#21



Chibibar

Overflight said:
Speaking of "what":

Sega Is Making A Game You Can Piss On

...goddamnit, Japan. :facepalm:
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You know...... This might actually be GOOD for a community college campus.

We have students who:
Don't life the toilet seat and pee ALL OVER THE SEAT
Totally miss the urinal and piss all over the wall
piss in the sink (don't ask)
piss on the wall

and these are college kids.


#22

figmentPez

figmentPez

Secret of Man on the iPhone, $8.99 is a little steep though, especially since I'd have to buy an iDevice to go with it. Still, one of my favorite games of all time. I'll have to dig out my SNES and play it again sometime.


#23

figmentPez

figmentPez

PC gamers rule, console gamers drool!


#24



Overflight

The Uncharted movie may not be a trainwreck after all. Also, you can all return to your "Get Nathan Fillion to play Drake" petitions.


#25

figmentPez

figmentPez

Yay! New game from Orisinal!
Carrot Track
Cuteness!


#26

linglingface

linglingface

Orisinal! Yay!!! <3


#27

figmentPez

figmentPez

Speed Demos Archive is doing a marathon of live speed runs (to benefit some cancer foundation). Right now they've got a 4 way race running The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and it's flipping awesome. They've got one stream for the game(s) and another of the room full of gamers watching and commenting on the action.


#28

figmentPez

figmentPez

Ouch! 3DS to only get 3 - 5 hours of battery life when playing 3DS games.


#29

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

That makes my decision for me. I'll be waiting until the next iteration of the 3DS, because it'll have better battery life. Without a doubt.


#30

linglingface

linglingface

That depends a lot on the settings, though. That 3-5 hours is with the highest settings which I know I never use on anything. I get way more use out of my DSi than they said that battery would last.


#31

figmentPez

figmentPez

heatherling said:
That depends a lot on the settings, though. That 3-5 hours is with the highest settings which I know I never use on anything. I get way more use out of my DSi than they said that battery would last.
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True, but I think that one of the interesting things it depends on is the game being run, and how well optimized it is. I know that the DS gets different battery life when it's taxed versus just running basic 2D stuff, but I don't remember any talk of battery life getting better as game developers learned to better handle the system.


#32

linglingface

linglingface

I remember hearing too that the 3DS battery lasts 8 hours with a normal DS game, but again that's with the settings all maxed out.


#33



Overflight

Screenshots from the upcoming gritty Tomb Raider reboot (ANOTHER one?) are surfacing:

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/114/1143535/tomb-raider-20110111031302349.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/114/1143535/tomb-raider-20110111031223439.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/114/1143535/tomb-raider-20110111031217939.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/114/1143535/tomb-raider-20110111031220752.jpg

...great, just what we need. Tomb Raider: Torture Porn Edition.
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In other disturbing news, F. 3. A. R. gives us probably the creepiest Collector's Edition ever:

http://www.destructoid.com/f-e-a-r-3-special-edition-has-glow-in-the-dark-pregnancy-191654.phtml

And look! It's been only confirmed for Europe thus far! Lucky us!

(Damn it. This thread seems to bring out the sarcastic cynic in me)


#34

Jay

Jay

Those are some very nice screen caps, especially the last one.


#35

figmentPez

figmentPez

It looks like GOG.com's exclusive on the Baldur's Gate games is over, they're now available on Impulse (as are Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights). I'm not sure why anyone would buy them there instead of GOG, but I am interested to know if the games will be showing up anywhere else.


#36

figmentPez

figmentPez

Bhwuh? Direct2Drive is going to have a game rental service... on PC?

@Direct2Drive tweets:
RT @snakpakk: The rumors are true- D2D now has a rental service and it's live. Details to follow in a Gamers Unite blog post.

I'm very interested to hear the details on this one.

EDIT: Details well, as much as they're telling. $5 gets you 5 hours of play, and the $5 can be applied to purchasing the full game.

No specific mention of how long you have to use the 5 hours, or the $5 credit.


#37

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I've always wanted a "rent to own" approach for my rentals. I remember renting Lufia 2 like 6-7 times back in the day because I loved it so much, when I could have bought it for all the cash I spent renting it.


#38

figmentPez

figmentPez

Real or fake, this is an awesome video:
Batman and the Joker to team-up in Arkham City?


#39

Jay

Jay

AshburnerX said:
I've always wanted a "rent to own" approach for my rentals. I remember renting Lufia 2 like 6-7 times back in the day because I loved it so much, when I could have bought it for all the cash I spent renting it.
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Fuck yeah, the original 2 Lufias rocked. The 2nd was better. The music was awesome. Too bad they fucked up the later portion of the series. The last few were DREADFUL.


#40



Chibibar

Interesting system. I guess the client will download the game "as you play" kinda like the new "WoW" download system except it will be in cache. So when you buy the game, the full version will be downloaded to your system. (This is a total guess) It would be "easier" to hack if a full version can be downloaded and play. I'm sure someone will figure out how to "extend" the time play off line to "unlimited"


#41

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jay said:
Fuck yeah, the original 2 Lufias rocked. The 2nd was better. The music was awesome. Too bad they fucked up the later portion of the series. The last few were DREADFUL.
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I don't think the GBA sequels were made by the same team. I know the DS remake/reimagining of Rise of the Sinistrals was made by the same team as the original game though. It's not an RPG, but the story is the same except for a few minor differences (like Iris spends most of the game with your party instead of flying off all the time).


#42

Jay

Jay

AshburnerX said:
I don't think the GBA sequels were made by the same team. I know the DS remake/reimagining of Rise of the Sinistrals was made by the same team as the original game though. It's not an RPG, but the story is the same except for a few minor differences (like Iris spends most of the game with your party instead of flying off all the time).
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Pretty much this. And playing Lufia as a alternating single character japanese themed hack n slash was beyond degrading for the franchise. The originals on the SNES were glorious, everyone wanted more, we got SHIT.


#43

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The new music was good though, especially the remixed ones the composer out.


#44

Jay

Jay

The music was decent enough and after a short visit on goggle, I got them all, the gameplay however...


#45

figmentPez

figmentPez

This demo of Little Deviants on the NGP/PSP2 makes me want to get one (also, it has an OLED? That is going to look so good, but how long before the blue starts to fade and the colors go wonky?)



#46

figmentPez

figmentPez

I just checked the best seller list on Steam, and Magicka is #1 on the chart. It's a $10 game, #2 on the chart is Dead Space 2, which came out this week at $60. I've heard that the chart isn't ranked by numbers sold, but by dollar amounts. If so, that means that Magicka outsold Dead Space 2 by at least 6 to 1.

Congrats to the guys at Arrowhead Game Studios.


#47



Jiarn

A $10 game out sold a $60? Not too impressed by that.


#48

figmentPez

figmentPez

A game from a new developer outsells a highly anticipated and highly advertised sequel, at least 6 times over, and that doesn't impress you?


#49



Jiarn

If it were $60 vs $60? Absolutely. When Borderlands came out and broke out as huge as they did, THAT impressed the hell out of me.

When Plants Vs Zombies and World of Goo did HUGE sales, it didn't. They were cheap and quick to get.


#50

figmentPez

figmentPez

Well, I haven't seen it happen much. I never saw the charts where Plants vs Zombies did higher sales than whatever AAA $50 title it was up against on Steam. And I've been watching the charts. I've seen a lot of other hit games that were cheap, still loose out to the big titles. They might have sold more copies, I don't know, but their dollar figures didn't get them to the top of the charts when I was looking.


#51



Jiarn

I'm not sure they did, I'm simply stating situation where I personally was going to be impressed.

Ex: I'd buy a $10 good game over a $60 Big Title any day of the week, then again I'm not the "majority".


#52

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

And Dead Space 2 looks like a complete betrayal of the first game, so I'm not surprised.


#53

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

escushion said:
And Dead Space 2 looks like a complete betrayal of the first game, so I'm not surprised.
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Everybody I've talked to about it says it's better than the first. *shrug*


#54

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

AshburnerX said:
Everybody I've talked to about it says it's better than the first. *shrug*
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That can easily mean it's a different kind of game. Like Alien being a horror movie and Aliens being an action movie.


#55

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

escushion said:
That can easily mean it's a different kind of game. Like Alien being a horror movie and Aliens being an action movie.
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Let me put it another way: They said that it played better in every way. Weapons were more balanced, it was easier to move around in zero g, enemies were more threatening...


#56

Gusto

Gusto

I've heard nothing but glowing commentary for DS2, including that the PC version has much better mouse mapping/acceleration than DS1 on PC.


#57

bhamv3

bhamv3

I'm very tempted to get DS2, but I'm going to wait until the price drops first. Probably end up getting it in 11 months, for Christmas.


#58

figmentPez

figmentPez

This is fake, but it would sorely tempt me to get a 3DS if it were real.



#59

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

According to Amazon, Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together has been renamed Final Fantasy Tactics.

  • Square Enix's FINAL FANTASY TACTICS series takes a major step forward as a lost tale of political intrigue, conquest, and rebellion, set in the Valerian Isles during the age of Xenegidea, is retold.
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#60

Jay

Jay

Call me largely unimpressed by another DS version that has come out this year with probably the same fucken Nintendo titles the last 10 years. Oooooh ANOTHER ZELDA.... and ANOTHER MARIO. The creativity is staggering!


#61

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jay said:
Call me largely unimpressed by another DS version that has come out this year with probably the same fucken Nintendo titles the last 10 years. Oooooh ANOTHER ZELDA.... and ANOTHER MARIO. The creativity is staggering!
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Mario and Zelda are like home cooking from your Mom: It hasn't changed much in the past 25 years, but it's still good, your memories of it make it taste better, and sometimes you just want it. Maybe its not the fanciest anymore but your Mom knows what she can do well and sticks with it for consistency's sake.

Also, your Mom is a quaint Japanese man who can seemingly turn his hobbies into gold.


#62

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

My problem is that it's not a new Zelda; it's a 1996 Zelda. I'm still playing Spirit Tracks and enjoying it; if I want to play Ocarina of Time, it's on my Wii.

That said, I'm still a Nintendo whore. I won't be surprised if I'm playing Pokemon Black by the end of March.


#63

Jay

Jay

I don't mind games that are created that are inspired by creativity but ANOTHER ZELDA remake? For fuck sakes Nintendo. Put something else in your creative formula and stop being so goddamn stale.

And for the record, old stale Nintendo gaming < my mom's cooking

Not that my opinion will stop the masses of the mundane flock to buy the new generation shit DS and play titles that have been released 10 years ago. It's sad when Pokemon is the most creative thing on the DS.


#64

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jay said:
Not that my opinion will stop the masses of the mundane flock to buy the new generation shit DS and play titles that have been released 10 years ago. It's sad when Pokemon is the most creative thing on the DS coming from Nintendo.
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Fixed that for you. Level 5 has Ni No Kuni coming out with it's strong emphasis on using a feelie to enjoy the game, while Capcom has Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective, which is receiving some great praise. If anything, the DS has been the experimental platform this generation, mainly because it's so cheap to develop for.


#65

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Yeah, third party stuff on the DS is still solid. I'm salivating for Radiant Historia later this month. Atlus has overcome Square-Enix in making good RPGs; now they just need to be making more money than Final Fantasy XXIV: Garbage 012.


#66



Overflight

Pop quiz: when you hear the title Call of Juarez what is the first and/or second thing that comes to mind? Well, apparently that's what the devs are thinking too, as in yet another potentially ill conceived gimmicky makeover, the third title in the series will take place in modern day L.A. and Mexico and feature...cowboys fighting drug dealers?

http://kotaku.com/#!5754059/the-next-call-of-juarez-brings-cowboys-to-modern-day-la

I can imagine how the meeting went:

"All right: Red Dead Redemption has pretty much made making a regular cowboy game a sucker's bet so we're going to have to come up with some sort of gimmick for the next game."
"Uh, sir? I don't think that's such a good idea, it could backfire. Remember when Shellshock tried putting zombies in Vietnam?"
"Nonsense! It's our ass on the line. We need ideas, people! How about cowboys vs. zombies?"
"Been done to death, sir"
"Cowboys vs. vampires?"
"Done."
"Cowboys vs. robots?"
"Done"
"Cowboys vs. aliens?"
"Being done this year."
"DAMN IT! There's nothing we can use. Turn on the news, Jenkins. Maybe it will help me think"
"...and in International news, intensity of the conflicts between drug dealers and the police in Juarez is at an all time high..."
"BINGO!"


#67

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Overflight said:
Pop quiz: when you hear the title Call of Juarez what is the first and/second thing that comes to mind? In yet another potentially ill conceived gimmicky makeover, the third title in the series will take place in modern day L.A. and Mexico and feature...cowboys fighting drug dealers?
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So they are finally making that Walker: Texas Ranger game I've been hoping for all these years!


#68



Overflight

Now THAT would be awesome. Especially if they decided to take advantage of the Chuck Norris meme and turn it into something like God Hand.


#69

figmentPez

figmentPez

Congrats to Telltale Games for having the highest average Metacritic ranking of any game publisher in 2010.
Metacritic’s 1st Annual Game Publisher Rankings


#70

Tress

Tress

It looks like Activision is in talks to acquire Take-Two. If it goes through (which is still a big "if"), how would it affect Civ, GTA, Bioshock, Red Dead Redemption, etc.? I don't think it would be a good thing.


#71

Jay

Jay

Activision and EA needs to be put in their places.


#72

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

EA has already sacked and thoroughly destroyed so many good gaming companies... there is no punishment harsh enough for them.

Does Activision have a similar record for acquisition and destruction?


#73

Tress

Tress

Azurephoenix said:
Does Activision have a similar record for acquisition and destruction?
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The only evidence for that would be Guitar Hero (which is debatable, since the whole genre dried up - possibly due to Activision's mismanagement) and Call of Duty (which is entirely subjective - some people love it, some hate it). I would say that Activision doesn't have nearly the same record of acquisition and destruction, but that doesn't mean they won't start now.


#74

figmentPez

figmentPez

I doubt anyone cares, but a minor little game went up for pre-order today.
Portal 2


#75

Tress

Tress

figmentPez said:
I doubt anyone cares, but a minor little game went up for pre-order today.
Portal 2
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What is that, another one of your silly little indie titles? Pass.


#76

figmentPez

figmentPez

Yay! Batman: Arkham Asylum confirmed to be single-player only
I applaud a game that isn't giving into the pressure to have multiplayer just to have multiplayer (especially competitive multiplayer). I'll admit that I was kind of intrigued by the possibility of a co-op mode, but ultimately I'm glad the time that might have been spent making that work is instead being spent on the core game.


#77

Gusto

Gusto

I preordered Portal 2 yesterday! Despite the fact that I know it will be an incredible game, even just going on Valve's pedigree, the fact that it costs full retail gave me momentary pause. Then I smiled broadly and realized how huge a game it would ave to be. :)


#78



Jiarn

Only games I've payed full retail for in the past year are Cataclsym and DC:U.... I'm such an MMO whore....


#79

Gusto

Gusto

It was just weird to think for even a second that I wouldn't get MUCH MORE than $45 of entertainment out of Portal 2.


#80



Jiarn

I only did those two because I had saved the Cataclysm funds for about 6 months, and I was able to get DC:U because I got a bonus on my check this month. Normally, if you read the other thread, I can't afford squat....


#81

Gusto

Gusto

Possibly the greatest game trailer I have ever seen.



#82

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

That was pretty much my reaction when I posted it up on Facebook. This games been in limbo for over 3 years though... and they say they can get it out this year? I'll believe it when I see it.


#83

Espy

Espy

Oh shit gusto. That made me all kinds of weepy. I'm about to go to band practice and I'm supposed to be all "bad-ass" now I'm weepy.


#84

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

God damn that made me sad...


#85

@Li3n

@Li3n

Tress said:
Call of Duty (which is entirely subjective - some people love it, some hate it). I would say that Activision doesn't have nearly the same record of acquisition and destruction, but that doesn't mean they won't start now.
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Considering what happened with the studio behind CoD i'd say it counts...


#86



Jiarn

So I'm curious what trailer was posted, since I can't see video at work.


#87

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

@Li3n said:
Considering what happened with the studio behind CoD i'd say it counts...
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Electronic Arts has personally destroyed:

Origin Systems,
Westwood Studios,
Maxis,
Pandemic Studios,
Bullfrog,

...and many more that I'm not really familiar with. They are evil

Activision has folded a few... but not as many as EA. I keep worrying that EA will fold up Bioware the same way... always makes me a bit edgy.


#88

@Li3n

@Li3n

EA might have a head start, but if read about the clusterfuck that is the Infinity Ward debacle Activision are playing catchup hard...

And Westwood screwed themselves over even before EA bought them... it's a shame what they did to CnC though.


#89

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Activision destroyed MicroProse. That is the greatest evil to befall the video game industry.


#90

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Microprose, Origin and Bullfrog were my favorites. Damn you Activision and EA!!!!

Darklands forever!!!


#91

Gryfter

Gryfter

Sorry, I worked for MicroProse. They destroyed themselves. I have never worked for a more disorganized studio. They imploded all on there own.


#92

Tress

Tress

Gryfter said:
Sorry, I worked for MicroProse. They destroyed themselves. I have never worked for a more disorganized studio. They imploded all on there own.
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#93

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Gryfter said:
Sorry, I worked for MicroProse. They destroyed themselves. I have never worked for a more disorganized studio. They imploded all on there own.
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Did you work on Darklands or X-com? If you did... you're my hero...


#94

figmentPez

figmentPez

Telltale Games is announcing five new projects this week. Two of them are apparently The Walking Dead and Fables.

Can't say that I care about either franchise, but they seem like good titles for Telltale to test their abilities on, and stretch their limits a little.


#95

Gryfter

Gryfter

I worked primarily on Falcon 4. Ugh, that was a product in development hell for over a year. They scrapped the whole game 3 times and started over from scratch. Not the way to develop a game.

I wish I had been there in the height of X-com. That was a classy game.


#96

Tress

Tress

figmentPez said:
Telltale Games is announcing five new projects this week. Two of them are apparently The Walking Dead and Fables.

Can't say that I care about either franchise, but they seem like good titles for Telltale to test their abilities on, and stretch their limits a little.
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Damn, those two sound good. Assuming it's of the usual Telltale quality, I'm looking forward to those two games.


#97

@Li3n

@Li3n

Heh, Valve is really trying to get people to stop playing L4D1: http://www.gametrailers.com/news/new-left-4-dead-2-dlc-announced/3023


#98

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
Heh, Valve is really trying to get people to stop playing L4D1: http://www.gametrailers.com/news/new-left-4-dead-2-dlc-announced/3023
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I'm OK with this. L4D1 had some serious balance problems that were fixed in L4D2 and I'd honestly rather play the old levels in the updated engine.


#99

@Li3n

@Li3n

I know people that prefer L4D1 because it plays slightly different.And it's kinda shitty of Valve to leave these people behind.

Heh, i knew my strategy of waiting and only getting the 2nd game would pay off though...


#100

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
I know people that prefer L4D1 because it plays slightly different.And it's kinda shitty of Valve to leave these people behind.

Heh, i knew my strategy of waiting and only getting the 2nd game would pay off though...
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I think some people prefer Left 4 Dead 1 because it's much easier and more formulaic, especially in Versus. Every climax has a strategy that will work near 100% of the time and it's quite hard to lose unless somebody isn't trying. Left 4 dead 2 is much more wild and dynamic, with lots more opportunities for intelligent players to take advantage of the environment.

That's not to say Left 4 Dead 1 is a bad game, because it isn't, but Left 4 Dead 2 improves on the design in just about every way.


#101



Jiarn

They wanted people to stop playing L4D1 when they added the original survivors and a L4D1 campaign to L4D2.

AshburnerX pretty much nailed why L4D1 is a terrible game to VS at all in the recent months. Almost every game, every map, ends the same ways.

I hope the new DLC comes with some more L4D1 converted maps.


#102

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jiarn said:
They wanted people to stop playing L4D1 when they added the original survivors and a L4D1 campaign to L4D2.

AshburnerX pretty much nailed why L4D1 is a terrible game to VS at all in the recent months. Almost every game, every map, ends the same ways.

I hope the new DLC comes with some more L4D1 converted maps.
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The new DLC is already slated to have all of the L4D1 campaigns that weren't already converted to L4D2. That's the easy part. The hard part is balancing Cold Stream, the new community campaign, so they are having an open beta for it.

Regardless, this is some months away. We know for sure it won't be out until after Portal 2 ships, but that's about it.


#103



Jiarn

The days where I can play through Dead Air again with melee weapons this time are ones I'll cherish forever. -grin-


#104

@Li3n

@Li3n

Jiarn said:
They wanted people to stop playing L4D1 when they added the original survivors and a L4D1 campaign to L4D2.
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IMO i got the feeling they wanted people to stop them playing L4D1 when they announced L4D2...


AshburnerX said:
I think some people prefer Left 4 Dead 1 because it's much easier and more formulaic, especially in Versus.
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I recall thinking when i started playing L4D2 that it feels different when you shoot and other small stuff like that.

The other things you mentioned are simply map design flaws and gaps in special infected gameplay that they fixed by adding the new ones etc. Nothing they couldn't fix with the previous game, in an expansion or a big content patch...

I really do wonder why they went with a whole new game instead...
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Jiarn said:
The days where I can play through Dead Air again with melee weapons this time are ones I'll cherish forever. -grin-
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If you want there are fan made original maps that are pretty much the same...

The link to them i had is down though... know anywhere i can upload about 780mb of maps?


#105



Jiarn

I did play the fan-mades, but it's nice to have official releases.


#106

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
I recall thinking when i started playing L4D2 that it feels different when you shoot and other small stuff like that.

The other things you mentioned are simply map design flaws and gaps in special infected gameplay that they fixed by adding the new ones etc. Nothing they couldn't fix with the previous game, in an expansion or a big content patch...

I really do wonder why they went with a whole new game instead...
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It's not that different, it's mainly just some rebalancing and changing the sound effects. For instance, the pistols in L4D2 feel weaker because they have less flash and quieter effects, but they actually do more damage than they did in L4D1. Also, the shotguns became far less uber by reducing the number of infected they could penetrate (instead of having infinite penetration like the rifle).

Honestly though, I think the biggest problem people had was that they equated "continued support of the game" to mean "We're going to treat this like TF2 and give you shitloads of free stuff for years."


#107

@Li3n

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
It's not that different, it's mainly just some rebalancing and changing the sound effects. For instance, the pistols in L4D2 feel weaker because they have less flash and quieter effects, but they actually do more damage than they did in L4D1. Also, the shotguns became far less uber by reducing the number of infected they could penetrate (instead of having infinite penetration like the rifle).
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It's also the way they shoot somehow... it feel different... and not the guns being weaker either... and i haven't played #1 (well maybe once or twice) since i started playing #2 (like i said, i only bought the 2nd one)...

AshburnerX said:
Honestly though, I think the biggest problem people had was that they equated "continued support of the game" to mean "We're going to treat this like TF2 and give you shitloads of free stuff for years."
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And instead they got like 1 small campaign (the one after all the bitching and moaning doesn't really count) then started treating the 2nd game like TF2... seems Valve has a thing for the number 2.


#108

figmentPez

figmentPez

AshburnerX said:
Honestly though, I think the biggest problem people had was that they equated "continued support of the game" to mean "We're going to treat this like TF2 and give you shitloads of free stuff for years."
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Actually, they made specific promises about what new content would be added. They said they'd add new maps, weapons and enemies. L4D1 got a new campaign, but never got new weapons or enemies like Valve had said it would.


#109

Tress

Tress

Telltale is currently planning a King's Quest reboot in the same vein as the Monkey Island.

Awesome.


#110

figmentPez

figmentPez

Well, while I'm excited about new King's Quest, I'm not excited about hearing from all the Sierra fanboys whining about how TTGs titles aren't difficult enough and how all modern adventure games are too easy since you can't get into an unwinnable state.


#111

Tress

Tress

figmentPez said:
Well, while I'm excited about new King's Quest, I'm not excited about hearing from all the Sierra fanboys whining about how TTGs titles aren't difficult enough and how all modern adventure games are too easy since you can't get into an unwinnable state.
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Whatever. Fuck 'em.


#112

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

There is already a new Kings Quest episodic game and it's fan-made. It's called The Silver Lining.


#113

Jay

Jay

figmentPez said:
Telltale Games is announcing five new projects this week. Two of them are apparently The Walking Dead and Fables.
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Oooooh?

*puts hands in his pants*

Oooohhhh



#114

Cheesy1

Cheesy1



#115

@Li3n

@Li3n

Dragon Age 2 has a demo: http://dragonage.bioware.com/info/demo/

And if more then 1.000.000 people log on to their EA accounts with it everyone gets extra free items with the proper game... so get cracking.


#116

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I'll be getting on that tonight when I get home from work!


#117



Jiarn

Question: Thinking of getting The Witcher at some point. I've heard of EE versions, Uncensored (UK) versions and regular versions.

Now I thought the EE version was just missing some simple nudity, fixable with a patch I hear, but in other places I hear the Uncensored (UK) versions have added blood/gore, scenes and different dialogue.

What's the real story there?


#118

Covar

Covar

figmentPez said:
Well, while I'm excited about new King's Quest, I'm not excited about hearing from all the Sierra fanboys whining about how TTGs titles aren't difficult enough and how all modern adventure games are too easy since you can't get into an unwinnable state.
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The Joystiq preview of Jurassic Park shows that Telltale's willing to change things up.

Telltale. Fast becoming one of my favorite PC developers.


#119

Telephius

Telephius

@Li3n said:
Dragon Age 2 has a demo: http://dragonage.bioware.com/info/demo/

And if more then 1.000.000 people log on to their EA accounts with it everyone gets extra free items with the proper game... so get cracking.
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Tried the demo, combat much better then Mass Effect 1 so I am happy about my preorder right about now :)


#120



Jiarn

I'm guessing you meant Dragon Age 1?


#121

Telephius

Telephius

Jiarn said:
I'm guessing you meant Dragon Age 1?
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No I meant Mass effect 1, They have been incorporating some elements from the Mass Effect series into DA, and I was worried they were going to taint DA into me not liking it so much. I have not played ME2 yet so I don't know if they improved much there but I really hated the AI control system in it which seemed to make my AI allies pretty useless damage sponges. The demo showed me that they did not hurt the DA series too much as I can still control my AI allies pretty good, and the dialgue wheel does not seem as misdirecty as in ME1.


#122

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Mass Effect 2 had excellent AI controls and they were much more than useless damage sponges.

Downloading the Dragon Age 2 demo right now... I'll have to wait till tomorrow to play it though.


#123

@Li3n

@Li3n

How is the combat compared to DA:O? Is it more fast paced?!

Azurephoenix said:
Mass Effect 2 had excellent AI controls and they were much more than useless damage sponges.
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They're still useless unless you control them each step of the way, but at least they have individual move commands straight from the keyboard in ME2...

Otherwise they made them more needed using the most annoying method of making your character have problems with certain protections the enemy has, unless you play a soldier (or have the proper DLC weapons).


#124

Telephius

Telephius

Azurephoenix said:
Mass Effect 2 had excellent AI controls and they were much more than useless damage sponges.

Downloading the Dragon Age 2 demo right now... I'll have to wait till tomorrow to play it though.
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That is good to hear I quit playing ME1 for a bit because it annoyed me so so I may give ME2 a try when it goes on sale next now as well.

@Li3n said:
How is the combat compared to DA:O? Is it more fast paced?!
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Seems to be they infused some God of War like animations into the combat. Controls are not bad though the camera control playes a little different then in the first one(I did not rebind so it would be more fluent if I bound to my usualy control scheme) You can control each member still and the skill trees are more of a web and some were locked out in the demo so I am not sure how skill trees will pan out in feel by the mid-end game range I only managed to get a few abilities. Aoe Spells seem not to hurt your friendlies though, that will be good for some people bad for others depending on if you are pro or against FF.

It seemed more fast paced overall but the demo only really has snippets of combat as part of it is the intro part of the game. So far IMO the game is looking good. I am not sure if they included the AI behaviour tree that they had in number 1(I never tried it because I disabled it in DA:O as I am a micro manager in these games.)


#125

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

They included the AI behavior controls. They also automatically update them. When I gave Bethany "Heal", the game automatically filled in tactics slots that said "Ally < 25% Health: Heal" and "Self < 50% health: Heal"


#126

@Li3n

@Li3n

Telephius said:
Seems to be they infused some God of War like animations into the combat. Controls are not bad though the camera control playes a little different then in the first one(I did not rebind so it would be more fluent if I bound to my usualy control scheme) You can control each member still and the skill trees are more of a web and some were locked out in the demo so I am not sure how skill trees will pan out in feel by the mid-end game range I only managed to get a few abilities.
It seemed more fast paced overall but the demo only really has snippets of combat as part of it is the intro part of the game. So far IMO the game is looking good. I am not sure if they included the AI behaviour tree that they had in number 1(I never tried it because I disabled it in DA:O as I am a micro manager in these games.)
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Actually i was more interested in the combat in the first one, as i haven't played it yet... finished the demo twice already and the combat is too fast... so i have to either button spam or pause for every action... both are not my preferred method.


#127



Overflight

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN



http://kotaku.com/#!5769528/your-neighbors-are-about-to-invite-you-to-wii-sex-parties


#128



Jiarn

How many times will Mom and Dad, after their little drunken swinger parties, forget to remove the game before Johnny and Jane come into the living room to play Mario Galaxy.....


#129

@Li3n

@Li3n

Hey... i wanted to post that...


Jiarn said:
How many times will Mom and Dad, after their little drunken swinger parties, forget to remove the game before Johnny and Jane come into the living room to play Mario Galaxy.....
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Well the parts we saw of the game itself doesn't make it seem all that racy... it's what you do with the remote that counts...

Also, it's only PEGI-12: http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=we+dare


#130

Frank

Frankie Williamson

http://biowarestore.com/apparel/hoodies/commander-shepard-full-zip-hoody

Prebought. I am comfortable enough with myself to own one.


#131

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Damn, that's pretty cool. I think I'm going to get the black one with just the N7 logo and the stripe down the arm.


#132

bhamv3

bhamv3

Frankie Williamson said:
http://biowarestore.com/apparel/hoodies/commander-shepard-full-zip-hoody

Prebought. I am comfortable enough with myself to own one.
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#133

Gusto

Gusto

Overdone, I prefer the classic black N7 hoodie.


#134



Jiarn

I'm still upset they sold out of the Alliance Premium Hoodies in my size over at Jinx....


#135

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Damn it... this sold out stuff is B.S.


#136

figmentPez

figmentPez

Damn, every time I see this LoZ: Skyward Sword I want it more:



#137

figmentPez

figmentPez

Team Fortress 2 got an update with the Shogun Pack. Four weapons, four hats and a noise maker. I find them mostly uninteresting, but there is a katana that, once drawn, must be used for a kill before it is put away.


#138

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

That new Soldier Backpack sounds gamebreaking. Lets everyone in the deploy radius heal 20% of the damage they deal? Pop that during a push and it's like having an uber.


#139

figmentPez

figmentPez

AshburnerX said:
That new Soldier Backpack sounds gamebreaking. Lets everyone in the deploy radius heal 20% of the damage they deal? Pop that during a push and it's like having an uber.
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I don't see that as being any more game breaking than the Battalion's Backup, which gives 35%-damage reduction and immunity to crits. I think it depends on what the Concheror (sp?) takes to build up. I don't find it easy to build a charge on either of the previous soldier backpacks, and if the requirement is high enough for this new one it won't be going off all the time.


#140

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

I want that medic hat.

Also, the half-zatoichi sounds like a fun weapon to mess around with.

Hell, the soldier backpack sounds like the only one that could have some serious use. The rest just sound like fun.


#141

bhamv3

bhamv3

Using any of the soldier backpacks involves giving up your shotgun, and personally I've never found that to be worthwhile.

I got the new spy dagger to drop today, pity I don't play spy at all.


#142

Tress

Tress

bhamv3 said:
Using any of the soldier backpacks involves giving up your shotgun, and personally I've never found that to be worthwhile.

I got the new spy dagger to drop today, pity I don't play spy at all.
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Really? I almost never use the shotgun anyway, and the buffs are way more useful.

Are there specific crafting recipes for the new weapons?


#143

figmentPez

figmentPez

Tress said:
Are there specific crafting recipes for the new weapons?
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Not yet, but I imagine there will be after a while.


#144

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

They usually make you wait two weeks for recipes. This is so the creators of the items (who get a cut of the sales) can get a fair shot at making some money off of their work.


#145

figmentPez

figmentPez

A patch today made some welcome changes to the crafting system in Team Fortress 2.
  • All recipes are now known to all players.
  • Reduced the cost of most recipes.
  • Items previously crafted using recipes that will be reduced in this update have been upgraded to Vintage quality.
I like these changes. I might really like them if the metal cost for crafting has been reduced enough.


#146

Jay

Jay

I have a question.

Why does Team Fortress have a crafting system and where can I order a female nightelf dancer?


#147

Tress

Tress

Jay said:
I have a question.

Why does Team Fortress have a crafting system and where can I order a female nightelf dancer?
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Valve added new weapons, which people liked. They dropped at random, which people did not like. So, a relatively simple way of taking unwanted extra weapons and making wanted ones seems logical.

I'm glad they backed off the requirements for most weapons. A lot of those recipes were too costly.


#148

figmentPez

figmentPez

So, Steam has built-in voice chat now? That should come in handy.


#149

Tress

Tress

Apparently we're very close to seeing TF2's "Meet the Medic." Geez, it only took them over a year. Then again, I suppose that's fast for Valve Time. I'm stoked!


#150

@Li3n

@Li3n

figmentPez said:
So, Steam has built-in voice chat now? That should come in handy.
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Doesn't announcing a new codec imply it already had voice chat?


#151

figmentPez

figmentPez

@Li3n said:
Doesn't announcing a new codec imply it already had voice chat?
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Yeah, it did, but I thought that was only for games that used the feature. I'm trying to figure out if it's always been possible to start voice chat with a friend outside a game, or if that was just added.


#152

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

It was there before. Can't say how good it was because I never used it.


#153

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Not really news or anything, but I don't really want to start a new thread for it. Some guy on youtube posted the entirety of the last beta version of Warcraft: Lord of the Clans for people to see.

http://www.youtube.com/user/0manbiker0#p/c/780265A4FFFD41E8/0/aZ6tg1Id6-c


#154

figmentPez

figmentPez

Trine 2 has been delayed until late summer, but it looks awesome. Better graphics, lots more enemies and water puzzles. I'm so excited.



#155



Overflight

Seeing as we brought it up before, behold! Footage of Kratos in Mortal Kombat:



Interesting how they not only incorporated most of Kratos' GoW 3 moveset but even added the stage from the 2D battle with Zeus. I wonder if Sony Santa Monica gave them the necessary code for the latter.


#156

figmentPez

figmentPez

Hmmm, GOG.com is soon going to add Guilty Gear X2 #Reload to their catalog. I'm not a fighting game fan myself, but it's nice to see them continue to expand into new areas.


#157

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

figmentPez said:
Hmmm, GOG.com is soon going to add Guilty Gear X2 #Reload to their catalog.
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#158



Overflight

...and it looks as if my fears from the beginning of this thread were fortunately unfounded:

http://kotaku.com/#!5789663/all-hope-may-not-be-lost-for-the-new-ssx


#159

figmentPez

figmentPez

Valve has a Portal 2 comic up bridging the gap between the first game and the soon to be released sequel.


#160



Jiarn

Oh man that's beautiful. I loved the L4D comic storyline, hoping for a L4D2 comic line too. Thanks for the Portal comic heads up.


#161

figmentPez

figmentPez

Portal 2 is now up for pre-loading so you can play it as soon as it's released. If you've already bought the game, it should be in your games list, and you can right-click on it to choose pre-load.


#162

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

It should also be mentioned that it's rumored that anyone who bought the Potato Pack (Or all it's games) off of Steam and pre-ordered Portal 2 off of Steam may just be able to play Portal 2 on the 15th instead of the 19th...

However, it may also be tied to PLAYING all of those games.


#163

figmentPez

figmentPez

Hat-less update for TF2
No new hats, but I do find the idea of a coaching mode intriguing. I'm not sure how it'll work, but I'll definitely check it out.
I'm also interested in the revamped voting system.

Also, I knew it! The katana did have a bug that was giving it an increased crit chance! And a lot of melee weapons got a nerf. Though the vita-saw seems to have gotten a buff, as did the Fan-o-war (which I already liked). Interesting, the Concheror actually got a buff. Yes, flare gun buff! I am going to kick so much ass with that.


#164

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Oh, I forgot to mention this earlier: Nintendo has confirmed they will be announcing their next console at e3 this year.


#165

figmentPez

figmentPez

AshburnerX said:
Oh, I forgot to mention this earlier: Nintendo has confirmed they will be announcing their next console at e3 this year.
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Raise your hand if you were surprised by this.
...
No one? Good.

EDIT: All I can say is that it damn well better have HDMI and Dolby Digital or DTS support. You'd think those would be a given, but digital surround sound should have been a given for the Wii.


#166

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Well, I actually want to use the backburner and the loch and load now.


#167

@Li3n

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
Oh, I forgot to mention this earlier: Nintendo has confirmed they will be announcing their next console at e3 this year.
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Any link to an actual confirmation from Nintendo?! Coz all i saw about 2 hours ago was internet rumours.


#168

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
Any link to an actual confirmation from Nintendo?! Coz all i saw about 2 hours ago was internet rumours.
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Nintendo was hoping to surprise everyone in June with this. There is no way we're getting confirmation from them for it until then. However, it is coming in from more than one source and it all happened very recently. Apparently Nintendo is showing off the console to developers well in advance so they can get them started on games for launch. It's supposed to be less gimmicky, so it's likely that it's going to be focusing on more than motion controls this time around.


#169

@Li3n

@Li3n

So they haven't confirmed anything yet...

Not that it's unlikely, it's just that i keep hearing all sorts of dates around which are probably just guesswork.


#170

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
So they haven't confirmed anything yet...

Not that it's unlikely, it's just that i keep hearing all sorts of dates around which are probably just guesswork.
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We've never gotten that kind of confirmation from a company until after a big event, mainly because it absolutely kills sales. The latest redesign Sony did for their console was denied until the next convention, despite photographic evidence of it's existence. Nintendo did similar with the 3DS.


#171

@Li3n

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
We've never gotten that kind of confirmation from a company until after a big event, mainly because it absolutely kills sales. The latest redesign Sony did for their console was denied until the next convention, despite photographic evidence of it's existence. Nintendo did similar with the 3DS.
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Then you probably shouldn't have said they confirmed it, or at least added that"basically" before the word "confirm"...

PS: I was kinda asking more about any official word on a release date or something...


#172

figmentPez

figmentPez

The wild rumors about controllers remind me of the rumors about storage formats back in the Gamecube days. I don't think the Wii2 is going to have a 6-inch touch screen on it's controller anymore than the Gamecube had Fluorescent MultiLayer discs that held more data than a DVD.


#173

@Li3n

@Li3n

You forgot about the controller actually being a cat too: http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1256616644_qXJ4jSv-L.jpg


#174

Piotyr

Piotyr

figmentPez said:
The wild rumors about controllers remind me of the rumors about storage formats back in the Gamecube days. I don't think the Wii2 is going to have a 6-inch touch screen on it's controller anymore than the Gamecube had Fluorescent MultiLayer discs that held more data than a DVD.
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The only way I could see a HD screen on a controller being worth it would be if somehow the system was the controller, and all the game media is digital, and there's some kind of wireless interface to send video to the TV or something.


#175

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

If the official website is correct, the Warhammer 40k MMO Dark Millennium Online will feature two factions, Order vs Destruction.


...How do you do that with fucking 40k? Nobody gets along! I'm guessing they'll have multiple Imperium bits somehow working with Eldar against Chaos who have tricked the Orks into working with them.

Lame. I have a feeling the development time on that one will be long enough to chuck it in the bin with Conan and the like. I stand by my anticipation of The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 as the only forthcoming MMOs that are going to bother doing something different from Blizzard.


#176

Baerdog

Baerdog

You could maybe chuck the Tau in with the Order faction. It might be a stretch though to justify the Imperium working with not one, but two races of Xenos scum.


Ah, who am I kidding anyway. If I were to play this game it'd be all Orks all the time for me. They don't need no stinking reason to fight! WAAAGH!!!


#177

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

escushion said:
If the official website is correct, the Warhammer 40k MMO Dark Millennium Online will feature two factions, Order vs Destruction.


...How do you do that with fucking 40k? Nobody gets along! I'm guessing they'll have multiple Imperium bits somehow working with Eldar against Chaos who have tricked the Orks into working with them.

Lame. I have a feeling the development time on that one will be long enough to chuck it in the bin with Conan and the like. I stand by my anticipation of The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 as the only forthcoming MMOs that are going to bother doing something different from Blizzard.
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It worked in Dawn of War: Winter Assault. Basically, you have the factions nominally work together, but constantly trying to fuck each other over at the same time.


#178

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

AshburnerX said:
It worked in Dawn of War: Winter Assault. Basically, you have the factions nominally work together, but constantly trying to fuck each other over at the same time.
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That was for a single brief campaign; it's quite a stretch to me to see them working together for the length of an MMO's varied missions.

I don't see why it has to be two. Even DAOC had three. Everyone's terrified of breaking from WoW anymore.


#179



Jiarn

Having split factions in WoW is bad enough. Split factions are pointless. It completely alienates an entire half or more of a servers population from being able to group/raid/quest with. You can still easily have PVP without split factions. It's stupid concept and I wish people had learned about how well factions worked with the Everquest system.


#180

Telephius

Telephius

Jiarn said:
Having split factions in WoW is bad enough. Split factions are pointless. It completely alienates an entire half or more of a servers population from being able to group/raid/quest with. You can still easily have PVP without split factions. It's stupid concept and I wish people had learned about how well factions worked with the Everquest system.
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I disagree, DaoC lived off its Realm system. There was alot of realm pride before they allowed cross servers to happen. However I would say you do not need factions in a pvp mmo.


#181



Jiarn

You really call DaoC alive or a huge success?

Everquest was a huge success. Ultima Online was a huge success. Everything after those two until WoW had marginal and decent success. WoW would be 10x a better game (in my opinion) without the factions.


#182

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

City of Heroes got along just fine with it's Hero and Villain division, and it's even better now that they've included ways to switch sides. Hell, it worked just fine before they decided to combine the two games into a single package! But then again, PvP has always been something that was just "there" and not a huge focus.


#183

Jay

Jay

Telephius said:
I disagree, DaoC lived off its Realm system. There was alot of realm pride before they allowed cross servers to happen. However I would say you do not need factions in a pvp mmo.
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One of my highlights of my online gaming were nights where the DaoC had a huge player base and the Realm vs Realm combat.


#184

Telephius

Telephius

Jiarn said:
You really call DaoC alive or a huge success?

Everquest was a huge success. Ultima Online was a huge success. Everything after those two until WoW had marginal and decent success. WoW would be 10x a better game (in my opinion) without the factions.
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Don't even blame DaoC's current pop on the faction system. It was primarily a PvP game, Everquest, WoW, and UO while have PVP elements were primariuly PvE games iirc that had pvp elements inthem.
Mordred and Andred, were non factioned(in Essence) PvP realms in DaoC and they shut one down pretty quickly and Mordered always had a releatively small population compared to Factioned realms.
Factions only really deter in PvE where factions don't play more then for RP sake as opposed to gameplay sake.


#185

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Ok, NOW it's official: Nintendo confirms new Console in works, to be on sale in 2012. Current plans are to reveal it at e3.


#186

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I can't wait to spend 100 bucks on a controller.


#187

figmentPez

figmentPez

Looks like the PlayStation Network outage was more than just a DDOS attack or a problem integrating Steam. User data, possibly including credit card numbers, for PlayStation Network and Qriocity was obtained by hackers.


#188

Espy

Espy

figmentPez said:
Looks like the PlayStation Network outage was more than just a DDOS attack or a problem integrating Steam. User data, possibly including credit card numbers, for PlayStation Network and Qriocity was obtained by hackers.
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Yeah, looks bad. And while I'm pretty pissed at Sony for not being more secure I'm pretty damn pissed at the asshole hackers behind this. Watch your credit card accounts folks. Watch them close.


#189

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'm glad I took my info off after the last set of DLC I bought.


#190

David

David

I'm fairly certain I've never bought anything off PSN with my current credit card number, luckily. Annoyed that I can't really do much with the system at the moment.


#191

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Single-player, just like Sony suggests.


#192

figmentPez

figmentPez

Frankie Williamson said:
I can't wait to spend 100 bucks on a controller.
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The Razer Hydra is going to be $140.... Oh, you were talking about the Nintendo rumors. Speaking of which, I still don't think the controllers with 6" displays are going to happen, but I would love to see such a system launch with the next LoZ: Four Swords Adventures as a showcase title. Even single player I enjoyed that game, and I'd love to get a chance to play multi-player someday. Sadly, that doesn't seem likely, but I'll enjoy dreaming.


#193



Jiarn

Between my mouse pad, keyboard, headset and mouse, I spent over $450. I will say that there's no way Nintendo would ever move out of their main consumer's "comfortable" price zone, so I don't forsee anything in that insane price range for controllers.


#194

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Who'da thought they would release a 250 dollar handheld? Nintendo will probably Sony it eventually. Think they're in such a place that they could release anything and anyone will buy it for whatever price they want to sell it for. Then the cycle will begin anew.


#195

figmentPez

figmentPez

Video games recognized as an art form by the NEA

I'm curious, would a game designer funded by a grant be considered indie? Up until pretty much all non-commercial games have gotten cred as indie titles. We don't call other grant funded artists indie, though, right?
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New Team Fortress 2 Comic: Meet the Director
It's part of The Replay Update, Valve has added an in-game replay editor to TF2. They're also adding hats (duh!), achievements and there's a film making contest with 20 categories to win in.


#196

Tress

Tress

figmentPez said:
New Team Fortress 2 Comic: Meet the Director
It's part of The Replay Update, Valve has added an in-game replay editor to TF2. They're also adding hats (duh!), achievements and there's a film making contest with 20 categories to win in.
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I could list any number of things I wish they had worked on instead. :thumbsdown:


#197

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I'm fairly certain they'll be debuting Meet the Medic after this is all said and done. They've already admitted to working on it before and it's pretty due.


#198

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Not to mention Valve telling us that they'll be debuting Meet the Medic in 2 weeks at the end of the Meet the Director comic


#199

figmentPez

figmentPez

GOG.com is teasing a new publisher that they'll be announcing during E3, one that will have 25 games to add to GOG's library. They list five major publishers that they don't have deals with yet: Microsoft, Lucas Arts, Electronic Arts, Square Enix and Take2.

Personally I'm hoping it's LucasArts. I want a copy of Grim Fandango that's easy to get running on Windows 7.


#200

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

It's going to be Lucas Arts or Square Enix. People love Deus Ex and it'd be quite a cu to get it out there before Deus Ex 3 comes out.


#201

figmentPez

figmentPez

Catwoman is going to be a playable character in Batman: Arkham City


#202



Jiarn

Needed more slow-motion ass-shots....

Her fight style does look phenomenal to play with though.


#203

figmentPez

figmentPez

Preview from Shacknews

Consider her something of a special guest star; providing a new experience for about 10% of the game.
Catwoman isn't just a re-skinned version of the playable Batman. She moves with a lighter and somewhat speedier touch, but doesn't pack quite as heavy a punch. Her whip swing allows her to get around somewhat like Batman's grappling gun, but the range is much shorter. She also has a "thief mode" not unlike Batman's detective mode except that it only highlights things she'd be interested in stealing, which makes Catwoman a little more challenging to play in situations. She does, though, have an equalizer in the ability to use her claws to climb the walls and crawl on the ceiling.
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#204

Gryfter

Gryfter

Very cool, want this game all the more now.


#205

Covar

Covar

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/02/capcom-change-ssfivae-drm/

Capcom is patching their shitty PC DRM scheme for SSIV:AE, and basically admit that they didn't intend to give pirates a better gaming experience than paying customers.


#206

figmentPez

figmentPez

figmentPez said:
GOG.com is teasing a new publisher that they'll be announcing during E3, one that will have 25 games to add to GOG's library. They list five major publishers that they don't have deals with yet: Microsoft, Lucas Arts, Electronic Arts, Square Enix and Take2.

Personally I'm hoping it's LucasArts. I want a copy of Grim Fandango that's easy to get running on Windows 7.
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The new GOG publisher is EA? wut...

If I could get to GOG.com I'd try and figure out if any specific games were announced, but the site isn't responding.

EDIT: 25 games are going to be added, the first three/four are: Wing Commander: Privateer, Dungeon Keeper and Ultima Underworld 1+2.

EDIT2: After that comes: Crusader: No remorse, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Magic Carpet.

SMAC had better include Alien Crossfire. I'm buying it if it does, I've never played the expansion.

EDIT3: No System Shock. That really sucks.


#207

figmentPez

figmentPez

figmentPez said:
SMAC had better include Alien Crossfire. I'm buying it if it does, I've never played the expansion.
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Alien Crossfire is not included. *Bleh* I still have my SMAC disc, I won't be buying from GOG. It doesn't even come with a soundtrack, wallpapers or the novelization. Just the game and the manual.

EA, you suck!


#208

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

That's actually pretty weak... they could have bundled all the stuff and done it properly... morons

I've still got my Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire discs and it looks like I'll be keeping them :)


#209

figmentPez

figmentPez

I can see one way to redeem themselves, and that's by putting a new price option for GOG, a $3 expansion pack. Release SMAX, have it bundled with SMAC for $9.99 and let people who've already bought SMAC upgrade for $3.

If it's $6.99 for the expansion, screw them.


#210

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'm amused that Final Fantasy XIV is still not out on the PS3, and the Amazon pre-order doesn't have a date yet. I wonder if Square is gonna have to abandon that part of the plan at this rate.


#211

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Here I was deriding the 3DS, noting how it has such a crap line-up and the only good stuff are remakes of N64 titles, including everyone's object of affection Zelda: Ocarina of Time. It's one of my favorite games, but enough--was my opinion.

Then I read on Amazon and realized it wasn't just about putting it in stupid ass 3D. I completely forgot about it being like a normal DS game, with touch screen functionality. Damn. I will have to get a 3DS next model and OoT after all.


#212

Hylian

Hylian

I am a few hours into it so far and I must say it stays very close to the source but the few improvements they did (touch screen,upgraded graphics,etc) really does help a lot. Now if you will excuse me I must get back to saving Hyrule.


#213

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Please, PLEASE tell me they just completely re-did the Water Temple? Even Miyamoto admitted that it was a travesty.


#214

figmentPez

figmentPez

AshburnerX said:
Please, PLEASE tell me they just completely re-did the Water Temple? Even Miyamoto admitted that it was a travesty.
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I know they changed the iron boots to be an item, so they're easier to equip/unequip, but I haven't heard about any other changes.


#215

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I hope they didn't change it. Yeah, it kicked my ass when I was a kid, but I eventually did learn the way of thinking that it employs, and while it's still a challenge when I come to it again, it feels natural.


#216

figmentPez

figmentPez

AshburnerX said:
Please, PLEASE tell me they just completely re-did the Water Temple? Even Miyamoto admitted that it was a travesty.
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From the Nintendo Power review of the game "...new markings clearly denote the paths that lead to stations where the water level can be changed, as well as which level the stations will change it to."


#217

figmentPez

figmentPez

Gears of War 3 spoilers:



#218

Piotyr

Piotyr

Nintendo is cutting the price of the 3DS from $250 to $170 in August, likely to combat the low price point for the Vita.


#219

Hylian

Hylian

Piotyr said:
Nintendo is cutting the price of the 3DS from $250 to $170 in August, likely to combat the low price point for the Vita.
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This annoys me cause I already bought my 3DS when it came out for $250. I know they are talking about offering some VC downloads to those who already bought it but still!


#220

Piotyr

Piotyr

Hylian said:
This annoys me cause I already bought my 3DS when it came out for $250. I know they are talking about offering some VC downloads to those who already bought it but still!
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20 free digital download games, 10 NES and 10 GBA. Ninty announced 5 of each so far:

NES: Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong Jr, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, The Legend of Zelda
GBA: Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Metroid Fusion, WarioWare Inc, Mario vs Donkey Kong


#221

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Piotyr said:
Nintendo is cutting the price of the 3DS from $250 to $170 in August, likely to combat the low price point for the Vita.
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Has nothing to do with it not meeting sales projections.


#222

Piotyr

Piotyr

Frankie Williamson said:
Has nothing to do with it not meeting sales projections.
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I'm sure that's also part of it, but such a drastic cut so quickly probably has more to do with the Vita coming out at $250.


#223

Hylian

Hylian

Piotyr said:
20 free digital download games, 10 NES and 10 GBA. Ninty announced 5 of each so far:

NES: Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong Jr, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, The Legend of Zelda
GBA: Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Metroid Fusion, WarioWare Inc, Mario vs Donkey Kong
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I know 20 free digital games is quite nice but I still find it mildly annoying that they are doing such a drastic price cut so short after the launch. They could have had released the system at this new price or very near the new price back when it first came out. We all knew they were over charging for the system but this price cut so close to launch just helps to reiterate how much they were gouging us early adopters. And as I said earlier 20 free digital games is very nice and I know they really didn't even have to do that but it still annoys me cause I would have preferred choosing what I wanted to do with that extra money.


#224



Chibibar

figmentPez said:
It looks like GOG.com's exclusive on the Baldur's Gate games is over, they're now available on Impulse (as are Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights). I'm not sure why anyone would buy them there instead of GOG, but I am interested to know if the games will be showing up anywhere else.
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Please be on steam :) I wanna play me some Baldur's Gate and I can't find my CDs :(


#225

@Li3n

@Li3n

Chibibar said:
Please be on steam :) I wanna play me some Baldur's Gate and I can't find my CDs :(
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Why won't you just buy them on GoG and just burn the install files on a CD/DVD?!


#226

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, if GoG had more newer titles (any other than Witcher 2) I would use them exclusively for their lovingly non-existent DRM.


#227



Chibibar

@Li3n said:
Why won't you just buy them on GoG and just burn the install files on a CD/DVD?!
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cause I like to keep all my stuff in one place. I got into Steam so gonna keep Steam.


#228

Tress

Tress

Chibibar said:
cause I like to keep all my stuff in one place. I got into Steam so gonna keep Steam.
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You can have Steam run non-Steam games. It will look and feel as though you bought the game on Steam, so everyone wins.


#229

@Li3n

@Li3n

Chibibar said:
cause I like to keep all my stuff in one place. I got into Steam so gonna keep Steam.
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And that's why i mentioned only GoG, because they have no added interface or anything... and when you add shortcuts to them in steams interface they won't need to start another program to run.


#230

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

My brother and I are fans of Saints Row, and we've been liking what we've seen so far of the third game that's coming out soon. Then we just saw this beginning sequence, and it became a must buy!:



#231

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Saints Row 2 was the first time in my life I felt I was free to enjoy myself in (nearly) every demented fantasy I had. It was truly what a Sandbox game should feel like. The customize your own avatar was what really pushed it from amazing to legendary for me. I have been excited for the release of 3 for a while now, I'm only hoping that the update in graphics is not coming at the expense of the very large customization that it had available.


#232

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

From everything I've seen and heard, the customization will be as rediculous as before. The developers have said a few times that they wanted to go as over the top on this as they could. Man, I sure hope so!


#233

Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

Man that opening was awesome. I am so excited for this.


#234

LordRendar

LordRendar

Shegokigo said:
Saints Row 2 was the first time in my life I felt I was free to enjoy myself in (nearly) every demented fantasy I had. It was truly what a Sandbox game should feel like. The customize your own avatar was what really pushed it from amazing to legendary for me. I have been excited for the release of 3 for a while now, I'm only hoping that the update in graphics is not coming at the expense of the very large customization that it had available.
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It ran like shit on PC though.


#235

Jay

Jay

Looks good and yeah, hopefully it'll run better than Saints 2 did.


#236

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Sadly true, it was one of the rare times I actually played a whole game through on my 360.


#237

Frank

Frankie Williamson

http://www.gamespot.com/news/632897...-dandd-dispute?tag=updates;editor;all;title;1

Hasbro has won back the rights to D&D from Atari. The days of Atari's God awful iron fist bullshit reign over D&D is over. Queue Hasbro selling the rights to THQ or fucking Activision or something equally terrible.

DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS EXTREME: MODERN SPELL WARFARE!


#238

Hylian

Hylian

Frankie Williamson said:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/632897...-dandd-dispute?tag=updates;editor;all;title;1

Hasbro has won back the rights to D&D from Atari. The days of Atari's God awful iron fist bullshit reign over D&D is over. Queue Hasbro selling the rights to THQ or fucking Activision or something equally terrible.

DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS EXTREME: MODERN SPELL WARFARE!
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#239

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Is it just me or is the youtube embedding not working for anyone?


#240

Hylian

Hylian

It works for me :confused:

here is the video I embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsCHIKTRYRk&feature=player_embedded


#241

Jay

Jay

Thank FUCKEN GOD.

Atari were terrible with D&D rights. Hopefully, someone out there will take on the duty and create some half decent games with it.

A 4th edition D&D game would be sexy.

But I'll settle for BG3. :)

Still, fuck Atari. Remember their LAST game? Good god.
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Neverwinter sounds cool but 5 classes only? Balls.


#242

Frank

Frankie Williamson

5 classes wasn't the biggest problem, Cryptic fucking making it was the biggest problem.


#243

Jay

Jay

If a game dev would define 'mediocre "nameless" brand' the kind you see when you buy Coca-Cola at the market and it's almost flat.... that would be Cryptic Studios.

No fizz.


#244

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jay said:
If a game dev would define 'mediocre "nameless" brand' the kind you see when you buy Coca-Cola at the market and it's almost flat.... that would be Cryptic Studios.

No fizz.
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That's mainly because most of the Cryptic team left during the big City of Heroes split. Most of them stayed on as Paragon Studios and the rest left with Jack Emmert to make Champions Online.


#245

GasBandit

GasBandit

Are you guys ready for LEAGUE OF WARHAMMER?



Beta signups are open.


#246

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

That's pretty cool.


#247

Frank

Frankie Williamson

How sad is it that at one time the Bioware logo that would ensure my optimism and excitement now provokes only feelings of mistrust and caution.


#248

Jay

Jay

What the fuck did I just look at?


#249

GasBandit

GasBandit

Jay said:
What the fuck did I just look at?
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League of Legends, as interpreted by Bioware Mythic in their Warhammer Online engine... at least that's my interpretation.

Or, to put it another way... the DOTA mod for Warhammer Online.


#250

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I just got an email from THQ advertising Dawn of War 2 Ultramarines multiplayer pack. Now you too can own 7 slightly modified RTS character models for use in multiplayer for only 7.50. Fuck right the hell off. I wish Relic wasn't owned by such a garbage company. Company of Heroes is the best RTS of the last 5 years.


#251

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

What a steaming pile. I no longer value Bioware by name. I will be taking them at product from now on. This just tears it.


#252

Gryfter

Gryfter

Bioware = EA nuff said


#253

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
I just got an email from THQ advertising Dawn of War 2 Ultramarines multiplayer pack. Now you too can own 7 slightly modified RTS character models for use in multiplayer for only 7.50. Fuck right the hell off. I wish Relic wasn't owned by such a garbage company. Company of Heroes is the best RTS of the last 5 years.
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Isn't over-charging for cosmetic options the heart and soul of Warhammer 40k? I'm sure Krisken will agree with me here.


#254

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Frankie Williamson said:
Company of Heroes is the best RTS of the last 5 years.
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I couldn't agree with you more.


#255

@Li3n

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
Isn't over-charging for cosmetic options the heart and soul of Warhammer 40k? I'm sure Krisken will agree with me here.
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No, no, no, no.... it's overcharging for everything...


#256

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

@Li3n said:
No, no, no, no.... it's overcharging for everything...
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Including poor quality!


#257

GasBandit

GasBandit

Azurephoenix said:
I couldn't agree with you more.
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CoH is pretty good, but Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance is the best RTS of all time. OF ALL TIME.

(too bad SC2 sucked so bad)


#258

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I love Supreme Commander forged Alliance... but I like CoH more ;).

I agree with you about SC2 as well... my brother and I stopped playing the multiplayer pretty soon after we got it and went back to CoH.

Every couple months myself and a bunch of friends get together for a big Supreme Commander LAN party which always turns into an epic shitstorm... good times.


#259

GasBandit

GasBandit

Azurephoenix said:
I love Supreme Commander forged Alliance... but I like CoH more ;).

I agree with you about SC2 as well... my brother and I stopped playing the multiplayer pretty soon after we got it and went back to CoH.

Every couple months myself and a bunch of friends get together for a big Supreme Commander LAN party which always turns into an epic shitstorm... good times.
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Prepare to get jealous.

I've taught the little woman to play SC:FA. She really likes it now. I've downloaded a bunch of custom maps and we go co-op against AIX:Adaptive opponents.

Also got her to try some Dawn of War, but once you get used to SupCom's zoom functionality, no minimap will ever be enough again.


#260

@Li3n

@Li3n

Azurephoenix said:
Including poor quality!
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Especially poor quality! That's where the biggest profits are...


#261

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm looking forward to this game with great anticipation:



#262

figmentPez

figmentPez

Oh, this is complete bullshit. Ubisoft outright lied to customers about the DRM requirements for "From Dust". In short, they explicitly said that it would only need an internet connection to start the game, but it actually needs a continuous connection to play. Oh, and it's a really lazy PC port as well. It doesn't support anti-aliasing, is artificially capped at 30fps and has other problems as well.


#263

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Cool, can continue not touching their bullshit products.


#264

GasBandit

GasBandit

Frankie Williamson said:
Cool, can continue not touching pirating their bullshit products.
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Fixed that for the rest of us.


#265

figmentPez

figmentPez

EA's Origin will scan your HDD and sell your marketing info to advertisers.

Granted, this is a Fudzilla story, so it's trying way to hard to be dramatic, but it still is kind of bothersome that EA wants to catalog your hardware, software and usage statistics to sell to advertisers.


#266



Chibibar

figmentPez said:
EA's Origin will scan your HDD and sell your marketing info to advertisers.

Granted, this is a Fudzilla story, so it's trying way to hard to be dramatic, but it still is kind of bothersome that EA wants to catalog your hardware, software and usage statistics to sell to advertisers.
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Standard boilerplate EULA does have a clause that the company does have the right to scan your equipment/software. I guess they just taking one step further and profit from it.


#267

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Electronic arts can burn in hell...


#268



Chibibar

Azurephoenix said:
Electronic arts can burn in hell...
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EA Games, Changes everything.

Other than the Sims, I don't play other EA games anymore :(


#269

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

My only exception with EA is Bioware games (and it angers me to no end that EA acquired them... stupid Dragon Age II).


#270



Chibibar

Azurephoenix said:
My only exception with EA is Bioware games (and it angers me to no end that EA acquired them... stupid Dragon Age II).
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Oh yea (I don't have DA2) but sadly I am getting SWTOR :(


#271

figmentPez

figmentPez

Torchlight 2 is going to be $20

That is going to be very very hard to say "no" to.


#272

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

That leads me to believe there is going to be alot of "content" to buy.


#273

Dei

Dei

It's the same price as the original Torchlight, so I don't find it all that surprising really.


#274

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

The first Torchlight was a no-name game from a no-name company.


#275

@Li3n

@Li3n

Shegokigo said:
The first Torchlight was a no-name game from a no-name company.
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They still had those guys with the recognizable name...


#276

figmentPez

figmentPez

Jurassic Park is looking pretty decent. I was worried it would look more cartoony, coming from Telltale.



#277

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

And now it's official: PSP Vita getting a Persona 4 remake called Persona 4: The Golden. It's getting new animation, at least one new character, and new voice acting. I wouldn't be surprised if the new voice acting is to match the new voice actors from the anime, as they couldn't get everyone from the game to do voice work.

So Shego, if you end up enjoying Persona 3: FES and want to try the sequel, it might be worth it to get a Vita for the new version.

They are also apparently working on a Persona fighting game from the makers of BlazBlue. It'll be in the arcades in Spring 2012 with an Xbox/Ps3 version sometime after that.


#278

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Crap. I kind of assumed that. Well, good news, Persona 4 is portable. Bad news, if I wanna play both Devil Survivor Overlocked and Persona 4 Portable, I'll need to get both 3DS and Vita.


#279

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I may actually get a PSP Vita this generation. The only series I'm going to be upset about not getting to play are Pokemon and Professor Layton, but unless Nintendo can get their act together, the 3DS looks like a dud.


#280

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I suppose I can let the library decide. Before this year, I'd play my DS a ton, but now my PSP has my primary attention between the two. Don't know what'll happen next handheld generation.


#281

figmentPez

figmentPez

Nintendo 3DS rumored to get second analog stick add-on

Supposedly it's going to be an add-on for a 3DS Monster Hunter. Part of me is hoping this rumor is true, because it will highlight just how inept Nintendo can be at designing practical controllers. I love that Nintendo innovates, I just wish they'd think beyond their own (admittedly gigantic) box.

Yes, I'm still holding a grudge for the stupidity that was giving the GBA only two face buttons.


#282

figmentPez

figmentPez

figmentPez said:
Nintendo 3DS rumored to get second analog stick add-on

Supposedly it's going to be an add-on for a 3DS Monster Hunter. Part of me is hoping this rumor is true, because it will highlight just how inept Nintendo can be at designing practical controllers. I love that Nintendo innovates, I just wish they'd think beyond their own (admittedly gigantic) box.

Yes, I'm still holding a grudge for the stupidity that was giving the GBA only two face buttons.
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It's real, and it's huge.


#283

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

figmentPez said:
It's real, and it's huge.
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And ugly and stupid too. I laughed hard when I saw that thing. Hopefully the article is right and this is a midway to a sleeker, better 3DS. I am not wasting money on the current console plus that ridiculous appendage.


#284

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Count me as one of the people that actually doesn't think that looks too bad. Aesthetically, it's hideous but it might make a handheld comfortable for me to hold with my giant man hands.


#285

figmentPez

figmentPez

I still can't understand why Nintendo didn't just put two analog sticks on it in the first place. A single analog nub was one of the biggest complaints about the PSP. I've also heard several left-handed games journalists complain about the 3DS.


#286

figmentPez

figmentPez

So, LoZ: Skyward Sword is going to have an item/weapon upgrade system:



Dammit Nintendo! I am sick of being told what the little trinkets are every time I pick one up. I've got dozens of stalfos skulls in my inventory, I don't need to be told what one is anymore.


#287

Piotyr

Piotyr

Reports are that it's just the first time you come across a type of item.


#288

figmentPez

figmentPez

Piotyr said:
Reports are that it's just the first time you come across a type of item.
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I sure hope so. In LoZ: Spirit Tracks it's every single damn time you pick up one of the collectables. EVERY DAMN TIME!


#289

Piotyr

Piotyr

figmentPez said:
I sure hope so. In LoZ: Spirit Tracks it's every single damn time you pick up one of the collectables. EVERY DAMN TIME!
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Although I suppose it could still be like Twilight Princess, where you'd get it the first time you picked it up each play session.

EDIT: I am encouraged by the upgrade mechanic, though, that it actually affects the quality of the item, rather than being purely cosmetic like the upgrades in Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks.


#290

Dei

Dei

Frankie Williamson said:
Count me as one of the people that actually doesn't think that looks too bad. Aesthetically, it's hideous but it might make a handheld comfortable for me to hold with my giant man hands.
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Yeah I'm constantly looking for add-ons for my handhelds that make it possible for my husband to borrow them without crying about his hands cramping after 5 minutes.


#291



Overflight

Here's a pretty clever game concept that I'm surprised hasn't been thought of before: first person war reporter simulator:



Not crazy about the graphics though. Luckily, the description claims this is proof of concept footage so there may be improvement on that front.

Also, you can cover wars, ya know. :-P


#292

Jay

Jay

That is kinda neat.


#293

LordRendar

LordRendar

It is a interesting concept.Does one get points for creative camera shots? Because if all I'm gonna do is run around and look at stuff,then thats gonna get boring fast.


#294

bhamv3

bhamv3

There would also need to be some form of randomization, I think. If every level or encounter played out the same way every time, you'd soon find the "best" way to film and report it, and there'd be little replay value.


#295

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Actually, the concept was sort of done in Michigan: Report from Hell on the PS2. Now that one was about using a video camera to record scenes from what is essentially a viral outbreak, but it's the same idea really.


#296

fade

fade

And Pokemon Snap! (kidding)


#297

figmentPez

figmentPez

The PlayStation Vita is going to use a new proprietary memory card format? Not even MemoryStick? WTF? The current generation of handhelds is not doing anything to make me root for them over smartphones.


#298

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

figmentPez said:
The PlayStation Vita is going to use a new proprietary memory card format? Not even MemoryStick? WTF? The current generation of handhelds is not doing anything to make me root for them over smartphones.
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Portable playstation systems are pretty much synonymous with failing, proprietary formats.


#299

bhamv3

bhamv3

Hey Sony, remember Betamax?


#300

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

bhamv3 said:
Hey Sony, remember Betamax?
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Betamax only failed in the home market. It thrived in the TV biz, where many masters were kept on BETA because of the higher quality and long life.


#301

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

That analog stick cradle doesn't look like it will fit on my 3ds with the extended battery :(


#302

Gusto

Gusto

If it's any consolation, and it shouldn't be, this is probably a sign that a new 3DS is in the works.


#303

Jay

Jay

I'm starting to get annoyed that every year a goddamn new DS is coming out. It's getting ridiculous.


#304

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I don't expect that to change; it's clearly working for Nintendo. I accepted it by not bothering to ever upgrade; I started with a DS Lite in 2007 and I still take it with me on trips even though I tend to play my PSP 90% of the time.

(I'm being truthful; but not slamming my DS--the reverse used to be the numbers; I'm just more into my PSP at the moment.)


#305

Dei

Dei

The *only* reason I bothered to buy a 3DS was because my kids broke my DS Lite, and I wanted to be able to play Professor Layton, and since there will definitely be 3DS games I want in the near future, I just took the next gen plunge.


#306

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I was waiting for a version with better battery life. Waiting on final design has been added to that. I was very close to jumping for one at the price drop and I'm glad now that I didn't.


#307

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I think the 3DS just found a system mover: Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney.



#308

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

... and we will NEVER SEE IT IN THE US. EVER. Because we never get awesome spinoffs.


#309

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Geez, did the Ico/Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection sneak up on anyone else? For a while its release date was listed on Amazon as December 31, 2011, and then no news for a while. All of a sudden it's coming out on Tuesday.

I don't have the money at this point, but I know what I want for Christmas.


#310

Far

Far

A box of them was sitting in my storeroom this morning with the do not sell before Sept. 27th sticker slapped on the side, mocking me. Like you, I had thought they were coming out much later and was surprised to see them at all let alone a week early. Never having played either I am personally more excited for SotC, as I had always wanted to but never got around to it, but will gladly play through them both when I do pick it up.


#311

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Never played SotC, so this is a good surprise that I'll be looking into.


#312



Overflight

As you may or may not know, Starbreeze is making a new Syndicate game. However, they decided to go the X-COM route and turn it into an FPS. But while the fans were shouting "BETRAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!", Paradox of Magicka and Mount and Blade fame decided to do something far more productive: announce their own ripoff spiritual sequel!

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/21/paradox-announce-cartel-interview/

I have to admit, I never played Syndicate (though my older brother did quite enjoy it back in the day) so I'm not outraged about the new direction. However, I did enjoy Magicka and hopefully Paradox can make a decent game.


#313

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Arkham City is being pushed back to November on PC. November is a God damn typhoon of video games as is so it looks like, to me anyway, that AC is going into the Steam sale waiting list. They gave no reason for the delay, but I'd assume it's to stem DEM PC PIRATZ! When the game sells poorly on PC in the most crowded fucking month for games in years they can blame it on pirates too and justify not having to lower themselves to making pc ports altogether since it really seems like developing for PC has become a real emotional burden on both developers and publishers.


#314



Chibibar

Frankie Williamson said:
Arkham City is being pushed back to November on PC. November is a God damn typhoon of video games as is so it looks like, to me anyway, that AC is going into the Steam sale waiting list. They gave no reason for the delay, but I'd assume it's to stem DEM PC PIRATZ! When the game sells poorly on PC in the most crowded fucking month for games in years they can blame it on pirates too and justify not having to lower themselves to making pc ports altogether since it really seems like developing for PC has become a real emotional burden on both developers and publishers.
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It is easy to blame pirates when it can't be "proven" ;)

I see other games where it is more fun and CHEAPER are selling like hotcakes. If devs make a good game, people will buy them.

People will pirate regardless so they are not "losing money" since most of them aren't gonna pay for the game at any price in the first place.


#315

GasBandit

GasBandit

You know, lately there's been so much good stuff available for free I've hardly had the time to pirate anything at all.


#316

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Tell me about it, I've had about 5 games sitting on my desktop, waiting to be played and all I ever seem to play right now is:

Dead Island
WoW
Team Fortress 2

Though I'm probably going to pull myself away to play some Lonesome Road for Fallout.


#317

Mathias

Mathias

figmentPez said:
So, LoZ: Skyward Sword is going to have an item/weapon upgrade system:



Dammit Nintendo! I am sick of being told what the little trinkets are every time I pick one up. I've got dozens of stalfos skulls in my inventory, I don't need to be told what one is anymore.
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DO WANT !

My God, that game looks amazing.


#318

figmentPez

figmentPez

GasBandit said:
You know, lately there's been so much good stuff available for free I've hardly had the time to pirate anything at all.
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And cheap stuff too. The amount of amazing games I've gotten for <$5 is amazing. Heck, the Humble Bundles alone would have left me with a backlog at this point.


#319

Gusto

Gusto

Arkham City is like 1 of 2 games that I wanna buy this year still. I'm not terribly worried about it.


#320

Far

Far

Arkham, Skyrim and Battlefield for me, of the new releases anyway. Though I feel like I might be forgetting something and with the deluge of games coming out in November/December I probably am.


#321

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Toss in Rage and Uncharted 3 for me as well as Arkham, Skyrim and maaaaybe Battlefield.


#322

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

WHY HAD I NOT HEARD OF THIS UNTIL NOW!?!?

http://www.fallout-on-line.com/

I'm insanely excited for this info.


#323

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Because it's being made by like 4 people left at Interplay and is never likely going to happen, let alone be good.


#324

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

:mad:


#325

Far

Far

Battlefield is definitely in the maybe pile for me as well but it does look promising so far, I heard open beta is supposed to start soon and while it won't give me any singleplayer experience I should be able to glean enough from multiplayer to decided if I want to pick it up. I thank you for reminding me about Uncharted, though my wallet doesn't. I haven't seen enough of Rage to decide whether or not I want to try it.


#326

Gusto

Gusto

Arkham and SW:TOR for me, assuming TOR actually DOES come out this year.


#327

Frank

Frankie Williamson

It won't.


#328

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
:mad:
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Sad but true. What's left of Interplay is being sued by Bethesda because they didn't agree to let them go ahead with the brand they now own. Considering Interplay is in ruins and has proven utterly incompetent for the last 15 years or so, Bethesda doesn't want them to release anything Fallout branded because it's going to inevitably devalue their property.

Also because Bethesda wants to make the MMO themselves.


#329

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Bethesda seems to be losing that fight seeing as how when the rights were purchased in the first place they didn't get the MMO rights.


#330

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Well in that case, I'm looking forward to the Bethseda MMO. All better now.


#331

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, Bethesda doesn't have a leg to stand on. They're just stalling and hoping to keep the litigation going long enough to cause Interplay to collapse completely.

I know I shouldn't be rooting for Interplay seeing as they are and always have been so shortsighted and incompetent but I just can't bring myself to dislike them. So many of my favorite games came out of Interplay in the 90's. The Fallouts, Baldur's Gateseseses etc. Hell, they were the publishers for Blizzard's Blackthorne and Lost Vikings, two of my favorite SNES titles. The Interplay logo still warms MY GOD DAMN HEART.


#332

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
Yeah, Bethesda doesn't have a leg to stand on. They're just stalling and hoping to keep the litigation going long enough to cause Interplay to collapse completely.
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This will almost assuredly happen. Bethesda releases multiple hits a year, while Interplay hasn't made any money since they sold off most of their properties. Ether Interplay collapses from fighting or they sell the MMO rights to Bethesda for a tidy sum.


#333

figmentPez

figmentPez

Psychonauts just got a Mac port, Steam achievements and, to quote Double Fine president Tim Schafer, will "finally be answering fans' requests for a more difficult Meat Circus." There's rumors of some creator commentary as well.

I'm looking forward to hearing more specifics on just what has been changed. I might have to buy this at the next Steam sale. I own it on GOG, but I loves me some achievements.


#334

figmentPez

figmentPez

The third, and I think final, volume of the Portal 2 Soundtrack is now up. Vol. 3 has "Want You Gone", but there's some good tracks in the other volumes as well.


#335

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Well, thanks gaming websites. I totally wanted to know that gigantic fucking spoiler about Arkham City. You fucking cunts.


#336

bhamv3

bhamv3

So... avoid all news about Arkham City from now until release?


#337

Tress

Tress

bhamv3 said:
So... avoid all news about Arkham City from now until release?
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That my plan now.


#338



Overflight

Frankie Williamson said:
Well, thanks gaming websites. I totally wanted to know that gigantic fucking spoiler about Arkham City. You fucking cunts.
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Yeah, that was an utter dick move. Especially on Kotaku's part who posted the spoiler in an ARTICLE'S TITLE. That said:

Every article is claiming that the Rocksteady reps specifically called attention to the Joker's "death" and refused to answer any questions. So my guess is that everyone thought it was OK to spoil since 90% of gamers will reach that point and say "Oh come on! He's not REALLY DEAD! At least THIS early!". It still is a call that I don't think they should make, though.


#339

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I think it's a real ruined holy shit moment that I would have rather found out about in the game than off a fucking kotaku article.


#340

figmentPez

figmentPez

This comic from Valve explains why turrets sing in Portal 2.


#341

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Page 2 of that comic is the best anything ever made.


#342



Chibibar

Shegokigo said:
WHY HAD I NOT HEARD OF THIS UNTIL NOW!?!?

http://www.fallout-on-line.com/

I'm insanely excited for this info.
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Wow. that would be pretty awesome. I can see people setting up town/vaults (or at least take over vault)
Player create mission like escort mission (supplies and goods from point A to Point B like in EvE)
Looking for old tech in cities.
It has potential!


#343

figmentPez

figmentPez

Holy Crap, Costume Quest just came out for PC. I thought that wasn't going to happen for Doublefine's downloadable games. I hope this means Stacking is coming as well.


#344

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Forget Stacked! What about Trenched?!


#345

Jay

Jay

http://wii.ign.com/articles/119/1199471p1.html

Ummm check image on left...

1UP
1UP
1UP
1UP
1UP


#346

GasBandit

GasBandit

Jay said:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/119/1199471p1.html

Ummm check image on left...

1UP
1UP
1UP
1UP
1UP
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Yeah and then you click it and it's not actually in the collection. TEASES.


#347

drifter

drifter

If anyone is curious, it's a 'shop from the game Catherine. Original here.


#348

Jay

Jay

Hentai?


#349

drifter

drifter

No, it's a regular game, done by the same company that does the Persona series. There's no actual nudity in the game, as far as I know.


#350

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

drifter said:
No, it's a regular game, done by the same company that does the Persona series. There's no actual nudity in the game, as far as I know.
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You mean nothing's shown. There's plenty of suggestive nudity--not explicit though.


#351

GasBandit

GasBandit

Soft core, non tentacle hentai.

But it basically boils down to:





#352

drifter

drifter

Is it actually considered hentai? What I've read about it makes it sound rated R, at most. Unless there's judicious use of flesh-colored pixels, calling it hentai seems like overkill.


#353

GasBandit

GasBandit

drifter said:
Is it actually considered hentai? What I've read about it makes it sound rated R, at most. Unless there's judicious use of flesh-colored pixels, calling it hentai seems like overkill.
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I was mostly being smartassed... in that the game's art style is clearly anime-ish, "cartoons are for kids," and "hentai is anime porn," and thus any cartoon/anime matter that involves any adult-oriented/sex-related content at all qualifies.

From what I understand, it's basically about as porny as a "brief nudity" R-rated film.
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More from my google reader recommended feed -

Goonswarm Shocks EVE Markets
from Terra Nova by Edward Castronova
​
More evidence that an MMO can look like the real world! Compare the Enron saga to the following story sent in by Goonswarmer endie. Thanks endie!

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Basically, this is about some emergent gameplay that we in Goonswarm (it's always Goonswarm) are running right now. It requires a touch of background for the non-Eve player, but is fairly easily comprehensible to the non-Eve constituency. There are three basic things to understand:

1- In Eve, "POS Towers" (essentially small space stations) are at the core of much manufacturing, being used to react various compounds to make the building blocks of advanced construction. Of the four Eve races' towers, by far the most efficient for this task are Gallente. Gallente towers are thus used almost exclusively for high-end compound reactions. Without the results of these reactions - many essential items from interdictors to jump freighters - simply cannot be built.

2 - Gallente towers use a specific type of ice which is predominately mined in Gallente empire space (it spawns in a few other places but is economically unrewarding to mine there until prices become vastly higher). By filtering on various criteria, we were able to determine that only seventeen of all of Eve's thousands of systems were suitable for the methods used to mine almost all Gallente ice (automated botting by large numbers of ice-mining accounts). I'll spare you the details of what those criteria were unless you are particularly interested.

3 - The automated bots use ships that themselves require at least thirty or so hours of mining to pay for their own capital investment, when fitted. Ironically, they rely on CCP's own mechanics for protection: if you shoot them in empire space then "Concord" (an external, invincible force of NPCs: essentially town guards) will spawn very quickly and destroy you. However, it is possible to fit certain ships so as to deal sufficient damage sufficiently rapidly to destroy one or more miners before Concord arrive. For obvious and predictably tasteless Goonswarm-cultural reasons this is known as Jihading.

We have therefore announced and begun a campaign aimed at preventing anyone mining for Gallente ice in Empire space. Since we have thousands of members, we have proved able to shut ice-mining operations down almost entirely.

Although prices have already risen dramatically and proceeded to fluctuate wildly (I can provide graphs if you want) we estimate that this is not yet because of a genuine shortage in reserves of ice, but mainly down to panic-buying, deliberate price tampering (by us: we bought up stocks in advance of the campaign) and short-term shortages. We think that the lead time for buying is usually a week and that most major players have between two and three weeks of stocks in reserve. After that is used-up the knock-on effect on a range of items will be fun to watch: unreacted moon minerals will drop; moon reaction output will rise; other components (such as datacores) used in "Tech 2" manufacturing will presumably fall, while the finished products will become more expensive. This will affect virtually all of the hundreds of thousands of Eve accounts.

As someone working for an oil- and energy-market research company I've been watching the related price shock, market hysteria, speculation and rumour-fed manipulation with delight and a strong sense of déjà vu. One post I made in the Goonswarm alliance director forums before we started kinda sums it up in formal terms:

"What [a fellow director] is saying is that while there is a limited degree of elasticity in supply, short- and medium-term spare capacity is inadequate to replace any interruption of current productive capacity, demand is extremely inelastic in the short term, bunkers are inadequate for any prolonged shortage and the cost of removing dependence is high both in immediate terms and in the context of ongoing costs. The market is therefore extremely vulnerable to price shock."

And there aren't many MMOs you can say that about.
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No there aren't! But now if someone asks me whether an important policy and regulatory issue can be replicated in a virtual world, I can say that some players replicated energy market manipulation just for kicks.
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#354

figmentPez

figmentPez

GOG.com is teasing the next game to be added to their catalog. Their clues are:
- I've seen the future of GOG, and it looks...kind of purple.
- Predicting tomorrow's release involves numbers between 419 & 451

Voters on Facebook seem to think that it's Day of the Tentacle, but that seems like wishful thinking to me. The forum thread on GOG.com is guessing Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy, but that game is from 2005, and doesn't seem old enough for GOG's catalog.


#355



Overflight

Yup. It's Farenheit:

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/08/fahrenheit-indigo-prophecy-now-on-gog/

The real reason to play this game, however, is to watch an interesting, compelling premise go off the rails like a child star after an 18th birthday. A must-experience moment (of disappointment) for any future game writers.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Alternatively:



#356

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I actually heard they were being pressured by Atari to push it out before it was done, which is why things go shit crazy in the last hours. To be fair the game was already in development for FAR too long, so it's hard to blame Atari.

That seems to be Quanticdream's biggest problem: They can tell a story and they have the technology to present it well, but they take WAY too fucking long to deliver because they are absolute perfectionists. Though it's ironic that the best game of this type (LA Noire) wasn't even developed by them...


#357

Jay

Jay

The first half of that game is fantastic though.

And Carla was... yummy.


#358

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

AshburnerX said:
I actually heard they were being pressured by Atari to push it out before it was done, which is why things go shit crazy in the last hours. To be fair the game was already in development for FAR too long, so it's hard to blame Atari.

That seems to be Quanticdream's biggest problem: They can tell a story and they have the technology to present it well, but they take WAY too fucking long to deliver because they are absolute perfectionists. Though it's ironic that the best game of this type (LA Noire) wasn't even developed by them...
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Even if they'd had time to present what happened with better pacing, it would've still gone off the rails and been stupid. If you look to earlier in the game, they were clearly intended those batshits changes of plot from the start; just not perhaps those changes in tone. I'm sure the whole police investigation would've factored into later things more than it did, but nonetheless, the change in plot focus was stupid and would've been so no matter how well it was told.


#359

Jay

Jay

DC Online is now FTP?


#360

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Yeah, it is.


#361

Gryfter

Gryfter

That didn't take long.


#362

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Hey, I might get DCU now. That's a price I can agree it's worth.


#363

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

If you want access to the new content that's released you have to pay for DLC Micro Transactions.


#364

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
If you want access to the new content that's released you have to pay for DLC Micro Transactions.
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Yeah, but they already started doing that way back when with the Power Ring power set. They knew it would come to this.


#365

Gusto

Gusto

Hmm, I could go back and play DCUO for free?

Still probably won't, with TOR around the corner.


#366



Chibibar

Gusto said:
Hmm, I could go back and play DCUO for free?

Still probably won't, with TOR around the corner.
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Yes you can. Basically DCUO went LOTRO route. The game has potential, but I think the devs are not seeing all of it (IMO)


#367

Gusto

Gusto

I enjoyed it when I played it, up until the point that the single player content seemed too steep for my character's ability level and I got frustrated and just never went back.


#368



Chibibar

Gusto said:
I enjoyed it when I played it, up until the point that the single player content seemed too steep for my character's ability level and I got frustrated and just never went back.
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single player has gotten better. You can do all the content (except those required to be 2 players+) even catwoman's quest is doable single player.


#369

figmentPez

figmentPez

Posting this multiple places:
SteamPowered User Forums have been hacked
Steam forums taken offline following possible security breach

If you use the same password for the Steam forums as you do anywhere else, especially your Steam account, you should change your password immediately.


#370



Chibibar

I change my password anyways :) but I do use Steam Guard which helps (i.e. new users would need email code in order to log in)


#371



Overflight

Ladies and Gentlemen, Gaming Journalism in a nutshell:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/modern-game-journalism-the/723924


#372

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Holy shit, my favorite PnP RPG system Pathfinder is getting a video game. THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!! FUUUUUUUCKING AWESOME!

https://goblinworks.com/

About Pathfinder ONLINE, the new MMO...

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK


#373

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

GSC (makers of S.T.A.L.K.E.R) is likely closing it's doors. This means Stalker 2 is most likely not going to happen. This is most likely because they kept failing to close deals for a console version and because of how hard it is for publishers in Eastern Europe to get published in the West.

However, there IS another rumored reason: The Ukrainian government (which is one of most corrupt in Europe) was going after the company's profits, as it was one of the most profitable companies in the country. This is certainly not out of the question, as things like this have happened before to other companies there. The current rumor is most of the dev team might be leaving the country to set up shop somewhere else.


#374

Tress

Tress

Users found this page by searching for:
cartoon and anime porno
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Wat.


#375

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Look at the top of the page. They were talking about Catherine. Enough said.


#376

Adam

Adammon

So, I found War for Cybertron to be a pretty good play. Graphics were decent and it was probably the best Transformers gameplay ever - which isn't saying much.

The sequel trailer came out a couple of days ago and I think Bay missed the boat not using some of the ideas...especially the last one ;)



#377

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I honestly would have let Bay slide with the horrible acting and terrible script if the Transformers had looked ANYTHING like their original counterparts, ESPECIALLY the Decepticons.


#378

Adam

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
I honestly would have let Bay slide with the horrible acting and terrible script if the Transformers had looked ANYTHING like their original counterparts, ESPECIALLY the Decepticons.
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I would tend to agree. I think redesigns are 'okay' but they went far too overboard on a very ugly aesthetic under the pretense of 'realism'. Honestly, they're transforming robots from outer space, I don't think it's hard to have a throw away line to mass transference or some such pseudo-science to explain why cog A doesn't exactly align to gear B. And making complex-to-transform toys limits your market significantly to dextrous nerds like myself instead of kids. The fact it takes 10 minutes to transform something limits 'play' quite a lot.


#379

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Adammon said:
So, I found War for Cybertron to be a pretty good play. Graphics were decent and it was probably the best Transformers gameplay ever - which isn't saying much.

The sequel trailer came out a couple of days ago and I think Bay missed the boat not using some of the ideas...especially the last one ;)

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Ha ha ha ha, holy shit. That looks like someone at High Moon was a big fan of the Gears of War trailers.

I dug War for Cybertron and hope this game is more like it than High Moon's terrible, terrible Dark of the Moon game.


#380

bhamv3

bhamv3

GRIMLOCK!!! GRIMLOCK!!!

YEAAAAAHHHHH!!! :D:D:D:D:D


#381

figmentPez

figmentPez

Double Fine's Stacking is coming to the PC.


#382

Bowielee

Bowielee

Stacking is a supremely delightful game. I have it on my PS3

God, I love Double Fine studios.

Also, regarding War for Cybertron, I loved that game. If anyone gets that on PC and wants to shoot it up, I'll be happy to stealth snipe the hell out of some decepticons with y'all.


#383

figmentPez

figmentPez

Gamefly has announced a new Unlimited PC Play portion to it's subscription. Right now the games look to be about the caliber of those that are found on GameTap, which is to say you'd be hard pressed to play enough games to make it a better option than shopping Steam sales (even if you never replay a single game). That is, unless you're already subscribing to GameFly for console games, in which case it's a nice bonus as there are some good games on the list.


#384

Bowielee

Bowielee

Heh, Gametap. I had that the first few years it was out.

I mostly played arcade fighters and watched the Sam and Max cartoon series on there.


#385

figmentPez

figmentPez

I was pretty happy with Gametap for a while. Especially during the period that Gametap was the only legitimate place to get Baldur's Gate without paying an arm and a leg for a used physical copy. Then I started keeping track of Steam sales, and realized most of the games on there could be had for $10 or less, and for keeps to boot. After that GOG.com kept expanding it's catalog, while Gametap's slowly shrunk. I canceled my GT subscription just in time (I'd been reluctant to let it go, since I was grandfathered in at $60 a year). Not long after I quit they lost a huge chunk of their library, and they've been adding mostly crap for new games ever since.


#386

Bowielee

Bowielee

I quit when they moved from the dedicated client to the browser based one.


#387

evilmike

evilmike

Anyone interested in old games and have an iPhone?

iMame


The prevailing wisdom is that it will eventually get pulled by Apple so get it while you can.


#388

Bowielee

Bowielee

You'd have to be jailbroken to get any of the major roms, so I'm not very interested.


#389

evilmike

evilmike

How about running MAME in Chrome then? Gizmodo reports that if you install the Robby Roto game you can then use the engine to play other ROMs that you (presumably) have legally obtained.


#390

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Looks like STALKER 2 might still be coming out.


#391

figmentPez

figmentPez

Steam now has a mobile client for iOS and Android


#392

David

David

That made me think of this:


#393

figmentPez

figmentPez

This looks like a lot of fun:
Quantum Conundrum - gameplay demo w/ Kim Swift


#394

bhamv3

bhamv3

Looks interesting, though not as intuitive as Portal. I think I'd want to play it though.


#395

@Li3n

@Li3n

Speaking of video games news: http://www.strategyinformer.com/new...-udraw-failure-is-the-largest-and-most-recent

Really, why hasn't the CEO been fired half way through the stocks going from 30$ to under 1$?


#396

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

@Li3n said:
Really, why hasn't the CEO been fired half way through the stocks going from 30$ to under 1$?
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No kidding. More than anything else, this one should have caused some C-level shuffling.


#397

figmentPez

figmentPez

I am loving that Nintendo finally wised up and is now allowing select games to be purchased with Club Nintendo coins. Much better than some cheap little trinket. I've already gotten Super Mario Kart, and I think I'll grab Mario Party 2 while it's offered.


#398

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Next week, Simpsons Arcade for PSN.

Day 1 purchase. Don't give crap.


#399

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

It's free if your part of their club thing.


#400

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I'm not, though this month's goodies do make a solid case for being a member. Final Fantasy 5 (albeit the weirdo PS1 version), Simpsons Arcade and like 20 Sega games. It's better than their SORRY WE LET HACKERS GET YOUR CREDIT CARD LOLZ apology gifts.


#401

figmentPez

figmentPez

Some of Ubisoft’s PC Games Won’t Work Next Week. Not Even Singleplayer.

Kotaku said:
Next week, Ubisoft will be moving around some of its servers. What this means for those of you saddled with Ubisoft PC (and Mac!) games that have restrictive DRM is that, in some cases, your games won't work while the move takes place. At all.

PC games affected include Tom Clancy's HAWX 2, Might & Magic: Heroes 6 and The Settlers 7. Mac games similarly going all busted will be Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell Conviction and The Settlers.

Those games above will be completely inaccessible while the move takes place. Worryingly, there's no ETA on how long the move will take place.

In addition, the multiplayer components of many Ubisoft games, both on PC and console, will be "impacted" as well.
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This is exactly why I refuse to buy games with this type of bullshit-DRM. It may not be a terrible inconvenience to not have games while maintenance is going on, but it's also completely unnecessary. One more case of "Hi, we're going to give you a worse experience than the pirates are enjoying, and we don't care that you're one of the honest people who pay for our games."


Oh, and console gamers, you won't be able to be smug for long. This type off DRM is coming for you too, if there isn't enough complaining about the PC version. The next generation of consoles is going to support measures that can lock-out used game sales, and you'd better believe they'll have the capability to require this type of DRM as well.


#402

bhamv3

bhamv3

Hmm, does this mean the installation check-in won't work either? I'm thinking of getting Assassin's Creed: Revelations, but now I think I'll wait a bit more.


#403

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

figmentPez said:
Some of Ubisoft’s PC Games Won’t Work Next Week. Not Even Singleplayer.

This is exactly why I refuse to buy games with this type of bullshit-DRM. It may not be a terrible inconvenience to not have games while maintenance is going on, but it's also completely unnecessary. One more case of "Hi, we're going to give you a worse experience than the pirates are enjoying, and we don't care that you're one of the honest people who pay for our games."
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Glad I'm playing Assassin's Creed 2 on my PS3 for now. Hahaha, silly PC--

Oh, and console gamers, you won't be able to be smug for long. This type off DRM is coming for you too, if there isn't enough complaining about the PC version. The next generation of consoles is going to support measures that can lock-out used game sales, and you'd better believe they'll have the capability to require this type of DRM as well.
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Damn!

Curious what that'll do to Gamestop and its ilk though. Actually, I can see this hurting sales overall. A lot of people buy games with the knowledge that they can then trade them in and probably get back half what they spent, thus funding new games. In this case, those people are only going to buy games they want to keep, especially with the rising cost of games overall. And actually, what about the game rental market?

I don't know; Fig. I don't think things are going to stretch as far as the DRM the PC currently has simply because it could have repercussions on the company's earnings. Not to mention, it'll lead to more piracy and cracked consoles. I could see it happening with EA and Ubisoft, but likely other companies will use that as reasons to purchase their games instead.


#404

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Ubiiiiiisoft can suck my dick.

I will never buy your gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames.

I won't even pirate them, because they're terrible.


#405

bhamv3

bhamv3

Quotemander Prime said:
I don't know; Fig. I don't think things are going to stretch as far as the DRM the PC currently has simply because it could have repercussions on the company's earnings. Not to mention, it'll lead to more piracy and cracked consoles. I could see it happening with EA and Ubisoft, but likely other companies will use that as reasons to purchase their games instead.
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That made me wonder, has there ever been an advertisement for a PC game that said, "When we install onto your computer, we only install a game and nothing else," and used it as a selling point?

And if not, how long until we're at that point?


#406

Frank

Frankie Williamson

That's one of gog.com's selling points for sure.


#407

figmentPez

figmentPez

Quotemander Prime said:
Curious what that'll do to Gamestop and its ilk though. Actually, I can see this hurting sales overall. A lot of people buy games with the knowledge that they can then trade them in and probably get back half what they spent, thus funding new games. In this case, those people are only going to buy games they want to keep, especially with the rising cost of games overall. And actually, what about the game rental market?

I don't know; Fig. I don't think things are going to stretch as far as the DRM the PC currently has simply because it could have repercussions on the company's earnings. Not to mention, it'll lead to more piracy and cracked consoles. I could see it happening with EA and Ubisoft, but likely other companies will use that as reasons to purchase their games instead.
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I'll admit to some FUD on my part. I don't really know what's being planned, but it's pretty clear what's being thought about. Consider that Gamestop bought up Impulse, and Gamefly bought up Direct2Drive. The biggest name in used games, and the biggest name in game rentals both now own digital distribution systems, when neither has a history of caring much about the PC side of gaming. To me that's a signal that they're hedging their bets about the direction future console generations may take, and that's good enough reason for me to remain skeptical as well.

Even Forbes is reporting that the next Xbox will restrict play of used games.

As for "repurcussions on the company's earnings", logic like that didn't stop Nintendo from killing off the "Player's Choice" line of games, because they didn't want gamers to expect games to regularly drop in price. That obviously cut into their total sales, because they now have "Nintendo Selects" games that are the same thing, but they still tried it fully thinking that they could get more people to buy at $50 if older games didn't drop in price. Monumentally stupid, if you ask me, but somehow that seemed like the right choice to Nintendo execs. I imagine the same will hold true for any console game publishers who try to bar used game sales, or impose always-on internet connection DRM. They'll think they can force customers to buy new at the price-point the publisher chooses, but hopefully there won't be enough blind fandom to support their decision.
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Frankie Williamson said:
That's one of gog.com's selling points for sure.
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And one of the selling points of the Humble Bundles as well.


#408

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

figmentPez said:
Even Forbes is reporting that the next Xbox will restrict play of used games.
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To be fair, all they're doing is quoting the original Kotaku article that made the claim. I have a hard time believing that MS and Sony would do such a thing, because used game sales is exactly the kind of thing that helps prolong console lifecycles. Plus, that might be a violation of the first-sale doctrine.

Far more likely that we'll simply see more games as digital-download-only or widespread use of online passes (which, within reason, I'm not really against).

That said, as pez pointed out with Nintendo, it wouldn't be the first time a console maker did something monumentally stupid.


#409

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Jesus, is this an Onion article or what?

http://kotaku.com/5882185/bioware-to-patch-error+laden-mass-effect-novel-in-response-to-fan-uproar


#410

bhamv3

bhamv3

I looked at the list of Mass Effect errors, and wow, it's like the author had nothing more than a basic idea of the lore. It'd be like writing a new book set in Middle Earth, and changing Frodo into an Uruk-Hai.


#411

Necronic

Necronic

SpecialKO said:
To be fair, all they're doing is quoting the original Kotaku article that made the claim. I have a hard time believing that MS and Sony would do such a thing, because used game sales is exactly the kind of thing that helps prolong console lifecycles. Plus, that might be a violation of the first-sale doctrine.

Far more likely that we'll simply see more games as digital-download-only or widespread use of online passes (which, within reason, I'm not really against).

That said, as pez pointed out with Nintendo, it wouldn't be the first time a console maker did something monumentally stupid.
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That would effectively put Gamestop out of business, which I'm sure some of you guys are cool with, but to me there would be something kind of sad about seeing the last of that kind of store go out of business. Kind of an Old Yeller moment.

That said it would totally help blow up PC games. With the direction that Steam is going and the fact that an entry level gaming computer can cost as low as 500$ this move could push a massive amount of players over to PC.

@Li3n said:
Really, why hasn't the CEO been fired half way through the stocks going from 30$ to under 1$?
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When I first read this and the stock quote I assumed that there had been some splits or something in that time period that pushed the stock price low like that, but there wasn't. I can not for the life of me understand how it's price is that low; the market cap for the company is a paltry 44 million dollars. I mean, they have some of the best gaming IP out there (homeworld, games workshop, company of heroes etc) and 5 studios. I would think that between the hardware and IP alone you could easily see the 44 mil.

But when you look at their list of games you can tell that there is something seriously wrong with them. 90% of their titles are crappy one shot movie games, which I have a hard time believing ever recoup their costs.


#412

Frank

Frankie Williamson

The biggest fuck up was that Udraw thing they made. Its lost like 100 million by itself.


#413

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?


#414

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Necronic said:
That would effectively put Gamestop out of business, which I'm sure some of you guys are cool with, but to me there would be something kind of sad about seeing the last of that kind of store go out of business. Kind of an Old Yeller moment.
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I get what you mean. I have fond memories of the long-gone Electronics Boutique from my local mall when I was 12.

That said it would totally help blow up PC games. With the direction that Steam is going and the fact that an entry level gaming computer can cost as low as 500$ this move could push a massive amount of players over to PC.
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If this helped contribute to game publishers in general finally coming around to pricing games at a reasonable level that was actually in line with the value of their content, it would be worth the loss of Gamestop, I feel.


#415

Necronic

Necronic

I would argue that they are already priced at a reasonable rate right now. You can get a good 50 hours of entertainment out of a good game. At 50$/game that comes out to 1$/hour. There isn't another form of entertainment that cheap (except for going to the park, that's free, unless you're murdered). That said its a high barrier for entry for each game, and there needs to be some kind of netflix alternative for gamers that are willing to pay a monthly fee to play older games that aren't moving off the shelves, but are still fun.

Steam has already done a lot towards this with the crazy sales they have as well as the new game trading ability.


#416

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Necronic said:
I would argue that they are already priced at a reasonable rate right now. You can get a good 50 hours of entertainment out of a good game. At 50$/game that comes out to 1$/hour. There isn't another form of entertainment that cheap (except for going to the park, that's free, unless you're murdered). That said its a high barrier for entry for each game, and there needs to be some kind of netflix alternative for gamers that are willing to pay a monthly fee to play older games that aren't moving off the shelves, but are still fun.

Steam has already done a lot towards this with the crazy sales they have as well as the new game trading ability.
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I'd love to see how the ratio of $50 games are over 40hrs and how many of them are under 15hrs. Cause I'm pretty sure it's heavily in favor of the latter. Making it a horrendous form of entertainment / value.


#417

Necronic

Necronic

Well yeah, some games suck. It's up to the consumer to be a bit more savvy and not just buy based on hype. In the last 3 years or so I don't think I have bought a single game that wasn't worth the money I paid for it (<1$/hr entertainment). That's true for any product though.


#418

Jay

Jay

There have been many many games over the years, many forgetable. Mostly because games that are finished in 1-2 sittings are not my type of game. There's a reason I'm still playing Skyrim. Why I go back again and again to games like Mount & Blade (over 200 hours played) or Minecraft. These are open, non-linear worlds that you can explore and do whatever you want. Even games with heavy plots like Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect can easily take 30-40 hours to play.

Games like Star Wars Force Unleashed to that takes half an evening to finish is not acceptable.

Yet as we saw in the past, many companies are making shorter games, simply because with stats, they can tell 90% of people don't finish games. And since they don't finish games... why put all that time and effort when smaller games can be created?


#419

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Not only do they make shorter games and still charge $50, but they add 4-10hrs of content and charge $30 as DLC.


#420

figmentPez

figmentPez

Personally I think the question of a game's value is a lot more complicated than dollars per hour. Batman: Arkham Asylum may have taken me more hours to complete than Tales of Monkey Island, but I was still very happy to pay $37 pre-ordering ToMI, more than the $25 I paid for B:AA when it was on sale. Some games or genres I'm want to be long and meandering adventures, others I'm fine with being shorter experiences. I'm very happy the market is expanding, not only in number of customers, but also in the ability to have a broad range of price-points, and the realization that it's okay to have games drop in price over time, with people still willing to pay for immediate access.
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Shegokigo said:
Not only do they make shorter games and still charge $50, but they add 4-10hrs of content and charge $30 as DLC.
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Oi! It's the DLC (that never drops in price) that really gets me. Someone was trying to convince me that complaints about DLC are just whining, and that we get more content than ever in games. Yeah, sure. Compare Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast expansion to all the mission DLC for Mass Effect 2 (both Bioware games). ToSC had an MSRP of $20 and added 20 - 30 hours of gameplay, with numerous refinements. All the DLC for ME2 costs $40 (because it has to be bought with Bioware Points bought $10 at a time), and adds less than 11 hours at most. Yeah, we're getting so much more with DLC these days than we used to.

EDIT: and before someone calls me on my using dollars per hour in my comparison of BG:ToSC to ME2 DLC, I meant that more as a comparison to the relative value of the expansions to the gameplay cost of the main game than a comparison of dollar value across genres.


#421

Jay

Jay

I don't mind DLCs... as long as it's never a Day 1 DLC. I do agree on their pricing as well.

Either way, it'll be hard for a lot of companies going out there and asking 60$ after playing a game like Skyrim the last 3 months.


#422

figmentPez

figmentPez

Markus "Notch" Persson wants to fund the development of Psychonauts 2
"Tim and Markus are talking," said Double Fine. "Who knows what might happen?"

I want this to happen so bad.


#423

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Necronic said:
I would argue that they are already priced at a reasonable rate right now. You can get a good 50 hours of entertainment out of a good game. At 50$/game that comes out to 1$/hour.
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Good being the operative word. People who buy games and then like them a lot rarely have issues with the amount they paid; it was low enough, in the end, to keep their experience worth it.

Good games are not the issue; uncertainty about whether something is good or not, is. It's fairly easy to determine that $60 is a good price for a game like Arkham City or Skyrim; with the enormous buzz around them and the proven franchise strength, you're not going to have to work too hard to convince enough people that they're worth the $$. Same thing with MW3; much as some folks here hate those games, the franchise strength and ability of the game to bring exactly the same experience as what came before justifies the asking price.

Why did Heavy Rain or Alan Wake come out at $60 (both good fucking games, IMHO)? Relatively little pre-launch buzz, dismal sales for both of them, if you don't count Alan Wake being given away for free with new Xbox's last year, and huge piracy rates. Things should be priced where enough people would buy it; if you can't reach that enough point, then you screwed up on the math and need to re-adjust, not blame pirates and add annoying DRM. (I know we agree on that point, just sayin').


#424

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Heavy Rain exceeded developer estimates of how much it would sell by a huge margin.

It's (as of GDC 2011, about a year ago) sold over 2 million copies.


#425

Necronic

Necronic

Most of the games I buy are open ended, which allows for a lot of play throughs, and I also focus heavily on games that I know ahead of time will get hit with a lot of mods (Skyrim/Mount and Blade) so I never have to purchase DLC. But I do still buy a few games from time to time that are completely linear and not even that long, but are so well constructed that it is a joy to play through them multiple times (Ninja Gaiden or the original Tenchu games for instance. I STILL play the old Ninja Gaiden). And then of course there are multiplayer games that provide years of play (if you are smart enough to get a good one like BF3.)

I'm still sticking with my original view that the value/dollar is high enough in a lot of games that I simply can ignore any of the ones that do stuff I don't like. I have a very high degree of loyalty to a few production houses because I know I will get my moneys worth. For any of the others I spend a fair amount of time weighing the reviews I am hearing before I rush out and buy it.

Honestly I can't remember the last time I felt like I didn't get a good deal on a game. It was probably Fable 2 or the original Mass Effect, both of which I bought without trying based on hype alone. This need for new is a big part of the problem as well, and I think it's why I bought those two games. But now I've hit a point that I can coast through and buy 2 games a year or so and in the meantime I will just play Jagged Alliance and Mount and Blade mods, 2 of the highest value games ever made. And 2 games that I doubt half of the people here have ever played, all the while complaining about how overpriced games are when there are amazing games that are close to free out there.


#426

Jay

Jay

Jagged Alliance... oooh yeah..

Speaking of which.... Back in Action is coming out next week right?


#427

Frank

Frankie Williamson

It comes out in 2 days.....which is weird, since I could have sworn I saw one of my friends playing it on Steam the other day.


#428

Jay

Jay

Oooh... demo came out last week.

Where the fuck was my head's up guys? The fuck


#429

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Jay said:
Oooh... demo came out last week.

Where the fuck was my head's up guys? The fuck
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You were busy killing dragons.


#430

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Frankie Williamson said:
Heavy Rain exceeded developer estimates of how much it would sell by a huge margin.

It's (as of GDC 2011, about a year ago) sold over 2 million copies.
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Yes, they fortunately didn't lose any money on it (like they apparently did for Indigo Prophecy). But when 30% of your players pick it up used, you lost a huge opportunity. Naturally, you won't get all of them, but considering Gamestop's (and Target's and Wal-mart's, etc.) tendency to price used games at only 5 bucks under MSRP, there's an excellent argument there for being less bullish on price.

And then there's Steam, which is a huge argument for that by itself.


#431

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Necronic said:
Honestly I can't remember the last time I felt like I didn't get a good deal on a game. It was probably Fable 2 or the original Mass Effect, both of which I bought without trying based on hype alone. This need for new is a big part of the problem as well, and I think it's why I bought those two games. But now I've hit a point that I can coast through and buy 2 games a year or so and in the meantime I will just play Jagged Alliance and Mount and Blade mods, 2 of the highest value games ever made. And 2 games that I doubt half of the people here have ever played, all the while complaining about how overpriced games are when there are amazing games that are close to free out there.
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I have almost 200 hours logged on Mount and Blade Warband and still have Jagged Alliance 2 kicking around somewhere :D


#432

Frank

Frankie Williamson

SpecialKO said:
Yes, they fortunately didn't lose any money on it (like they apparently did for Indigo Prophecy). But when 30% of your players pick it up used, you lost a huge opportunity. Naturally, you won't get all of them, but considering Gamestop's (and Target's and Wal-mart's, etc.) tendency to price used games at only 5 bucks under MSRP, there's an excellent argument there for being less bullish on price.

And then there's Steam, which is a huge argument for that by itself.
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They not only didn't lost money, they did EXCEEDINGLY well despite the game only being about 7-8 hours long at full price. Heavy Rain was still 60 bucks over a year later at retail.

And again, people, games are cheaper now than they've ever been. If this were the SNES era, games with the length of Skyrim (the Chrono Triggers and the Final Fantasy 3s of the world) were WAY more money than your average game. Chrono Trigger and FF3 retailed for 80 God damn dollars. I remember seeing N64 games in the stores for 100+ dollars.


#433

Terrik

Terrik

You did? Which games were those? I bought N64 near release and I thought I remember them still being $60 a pop. Star Fox 64 was my first. It did a barrel roll into my heart.


#434

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I know Mario and Pilotwings debuted at 70 but the competition between stores you could get them for 60 or less in those fucking ridiculous bundles.

A lot Nintendo first party games were MSRP at 70. 3rd party titles had a lower MSRP. Canadian department stores at the time could be fucking assholes. Zellers always had them for 100.
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EVIDENCE!





#435

Terrik

Terrik

Weeee childhood memories.


#436

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I own every one of those games!


#437

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Chrono Trigger was 80 bucks when it was released. I remember because I bought the game with my own money after working a job through the summer. Worth every penny.


#438



Overflight

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/battleship-will-also-be-a-first-person-shooter-now/3971/



#439

figmentPez

figmentPez

The Double Fine Adventure Adventure
In short: Double Fine is starting a Kickstarter to make an adventure game.

I'm so in.


#440

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I wonder if this is in response to Notch offering up cash to help fund Psychonauts 2.

It's not going to be a true kickstarter it appears... he's asking for some serious cash in those amounts. I honestly feel like it might be a better idea to just put the minimum donation at like 60 bucks and just give anyone who pays that much a free, signed copy of the game + some other stuff. Sort of like a pre-order to finance production.


#441

figmentPez

figmentPez

AshburnerX said:
I wonder if this is in response to Notch offering up cash to help fund Psychonauts 2.

It's not going to be a true kickstarter it appears... he's asking for some serious cash in those amounts. I honestly feel like it might be a better idea to just put the minimum donation at like 60 bucks and just give anyone who pays that much a free, signed copy of the game + some other stuff. Sort of like a pre-order to finance production.
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Not a true Kickstarter in what way? For $15 you get the game on Steam, access to the beta and the documentary. For $30 you get the game, the soundtrack and an HD version of the documentary. (I'm in for $30) There are some packages for stuff larger than Kickstarter usually allows, but it's still got some nice basic level donation stuff.


#442

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Oh I'm sorry... I just looked at the Premium pledge list. My bad.


#443

figmentPez

figmentPez

figmentPez said:
The Double Fine Adventure Adventure
In short: Double Fine is starting a Kickstarter to make an adventure game.

I'm so in.
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And it's funded. What was that, like 8 or 9 hours? Anyway, anyone who still wants to back them can still get put their money in the jar. The more money Double Fine gets, the more they'll be able to do with the game: additional platforms, more voice acting, etc.


#444



Overflight

...and it's funded. In ONE DAY.

...Rich Burlew will have to edit his charts...
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In other news, game studio responsible for some of the worst PC games of their respective years is inexplicably still in business and may equally inexplicably do a Battlefront sequel:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/08/rumor-spark-unlimited-producing-sci-fi-sequel-speculation-says/


#445

Covar

Covar

Already in for $30.

Also are those n64 ads for USD or Canadian funny money? I remember Nintendo 64 games being $50-$60, while PSX games were usually ~$40.


#446

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The awesome thing about the Kickstarter? That's not including the premium donations. That's just normal fans, paying for a game from a studio they love. Tim has gotta be feeling the love.

Now if only they'd do a Kickstarter to acquire money to buy back the Brutal Legend IP... I'd be all over that too.


#447

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Kickstarter for a true Lunar 3 I'd be all over.

In all honesty that's about the only IP I'd actually pay to have continue.


#448

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I'd probably do it for another Shadow Hearts. I'd DEFINITELY do it for another Megaman Legends game.


#449

Jay

Jay

IP's I'd Pay?

- Baldur's Gate (or any D&D game that doesn't suck a dick)
- System Shock
- A New Mount & Blade


#450

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Frankie Williamson said:
If this were the SNES era, games with the length of Skyrim (the Chrono Triggers and the Final Fantasy 3s of the world) were WAY more money than your average game. Chrono Trigger and FF3 retailed for 80 God damn dollars. I remember seeing N64 games in the stores for 100+ dollars.
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So...you would have paid $80 for Bubsy, because Chrono Trigger was worth $80?

Prices are determined by what people are willing to pay at that point in time, not what they paid for similar products 20 years ago (dear god, it really is almost 20 years), and when the "5-10 bucks off retail" used market is reputedly eating a third of your lunch, and you specifically don't like it, staying inflexible on your price point isn't the best place to stay.

And I'd throw $20 at a Kickstarter that released Suikoden 2 for the PSP in North America.


#451

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I'd be so there with you if I didn't already have it on PSX and therefore have it on ISO for my psp.

A fully redone Suikoden 1&2 remastered for PSP? On it like fire in a dry grass field.


#452

Adam

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
I'd be so there with you if I didn't already have it on PSX and therefore have it on ISO for my psp.

A fully redone Suikoden 1&2 remastered for PSP? On it like fire in a dry grass field.
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I think I have a personal problem where everything I read from you is a sexual metaphor now; even if you don't mean it :(


#453

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Shegokigo said:
I'd be so there with you if I didn't already have it on PSX and therefore have it on ISO for my psp.
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I only played a friend's copy. :(

A fully redone Suikoden 1&2 remastered for PSP? On it like fire in a dry grass field.
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They have it, just only in Japan. :mad:


#454

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I'm so upset you've informed me of that SpecialKO... now it's going to drive me crazy for months.

Much like my insane obsession with FFXII Intl.


#455

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

At least it's possible to sort of MAKE a FFXII International. You just take the japanese ISO and patch it to replace all of the text, dialog, and movies with the US version. It's got a few glitches, but it works mostly... watched a guy on JustinTV play it a few months back.


#456

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

AshburnerX said:
I'd probably do it for another Shadow Hearts. I'd DEFINITELY do it for another Megaman Legends game.
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You mean Street Fighter X Tekken Mega Man isn't good enough for you?



#457

Jay

Jay

K6xiZ.gif


#458

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

For the curious, he's based off the original US box art of Mega Man 1, which is easily one of, if not the worst box cover ever. I guess that's Capcom's answer to the throngs of Mega Man fans who have been asking to get him in MvC3 or in a new game.


#459

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Couple things today:

Blizzard is filing a Notice of Opposition against Valve because Valve is trying to trademark "DotA". I can see both sides on this one, so it could get a bit heated.

Concept artist Adam Adamowicz passed away a couple days ago, cause not disclosed. If you're playing Skyrim (or ever played Fallout 3), you're looking at his work. :(


#460

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I don't think Blizzard has a case. They weren't involved with the development of the mod and never claimed to be.


#461

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

AshburnerX said:
I don't think Blizzard has a case. They weren't involved with the development of the mod and never claimed to be.
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A mod of their game that they provided the content development tools for, using their EULA, which they then had televised tournaments for at their branded convention for years.

If they were trying to establish ownership, I would agree it's too spotty, but it appears more that they're simply trying to block Valve's ownership of the trademark by claiming an emotional association with the brand as well as a functional association to the name (the Ancients in question).


#462

figmentPez

figmentPez

Mojang and Humble Bundle are teaming up for the Mojam this weeked:



Mojang will be programming an entirely new game over the course of 60 hours, while they livestream, with the genre, plot and other stuff decided by the votes of viewers. All the money paid for the game they create will go to charity.


#463

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Ubisoft announced Assassin's Creed 3 for October... and said nothing else about it, dammit.

Still gotta do Revelations.


#464

Jay

Jay

I played like 40% of Revelations before Skyrim came out. It's still on my list... post Skyrim/Mass Effect 3.... so yeah... fall 2012.


#465

figmentPez

figmentPez

The more I hear about Far Cry 3, the more excited I get:



If this game could have the emotional impact on me that FC2 did, with that level of contemplative storytelling, interspersed with similarly exciting combat, I am so sold. Normally such a barrage of foul language and brutal violence wouldn't endear me to a game, but FC2 used it's baser elements to very good effect in a tale about what violence does to men. Far Cry 3 looks like it's going to examine some similar themes, as well as look at trying to stay sane in the face of madness. It's shocking, but I have hope that the story will actually treat it as shocking; and that intrigues me greatly.

I'm actually thinking of pre-ordering this. :confused:


#466

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Jay said:
I played like 40% of Revelations before Skyrim came out. It's still on my list... post Skyrim/Mass Effect 3.... so yeah... fall 2012.
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Revelations came out a week after Skyrim.


#467

Jay

Jay

Uh huh.... that's right.


#468

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight



#469

GasBandit

GasBandit

Far Cry 3? Has possibilities IMO. Shame about all the dubstep though.


#470

Bowielee

Bowielee

Well, I actually got Farcry2 on my PS3, mostly because it was a free download because I'm a plus member. I also wanted to give it another shot due to the discussion in another thread. It still kind of hit a sour note with me. I guess I just can't get into that game. On the other hand, Farcry 3 does look pretty good (all dubstep sucking aside).


#471

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Best part of that trailer?

"Hey look, I'm on a boat!"

:D


#472

figmentPez

figmentPez

This is a real dick move Sony.
Sony Teams Up With AT&T To Anger PlayStation Vita Customers

In short: the PSVita 3G bundle comes with a free month of 3G service and a download copy of Super Stardust Delta. The catch? The free month is the second month of service. You have to pay for at least a month of service to get the free one, and you can't download the game until you've had the service for at least 30 days. None of this is detailed on the packaging, only in additional documents at retailers.


#473

LittleKagsin

LittleKagsin

EEEEeee!!!



#474

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Fuck the Vita.

And the 3DS while we're at it.


#475

Bowielee

Bowielee

What's wrong with the 3DS?


#476

Frank

Frankie Williamson

It's not a big enough upgrade from the DS to make it worth it to me.


#477

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Especially considering they are throwing out that second stick/thumbpad thing already. It seems like waiting for the next incarnation was the right move.


#478

Bowielee

Bowielee

Eh, personally, I love my 3DS. I would never play FPS games on a handheld anyway, so I really dont care about the right analog stick.

haters.JPG


#479

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Honestly, it's all about having the second stick for Monster Hunter. If the franchise didn't move so many units, we'd have never seen it come out.


#480

Bowielee

Bowielee

I'm still just waiting for the selection of games to be a little less anemic. I really only own 4 3d games for it. LoZ:OOT, Mario World, Street Fighter, and PilotWings (FYI, don't bother). Though, being in the ambassador program(ie, getting totally ripped off on the pricing of the system) they did make a good showing of VMware.


#481

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Is it weird that I absolutely despise Microsoft as a PC gamer? Apparently Remedy may still have to do more convincing to get Alan Wake's American Nightmare ported to PC.

.......fuck you Microsoft.

You expect your unified Windows 8 Xbox Live-esque horseshit to fly with PC gamers after your treatment of the platform for the past decade? Fat fucking chance.


#482

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I think it'll be much easier for them to convince Microsoft for American nightmare. It's budget price will appeal to the Steam crowd.


#483

GasBandit

GasBandit

I still haven't forgiven Microsoft for ditching Mechwarrior for that mech assault crap.


#484

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I always considered Mech Assault to be the arcade style alternative to Mech Warrior: Fun in it's own right, but I'd still rather be playing the original. Hopefully the online one coming out doesn't suck.


#485

GasBandit

GasBandit

AshburnerX said:
I always considered Mech Assault to be the arcade style alternative to Mech Warrior: Fun in it's own right, but I'd still rather be playing the original. Hopefully the online one coming out doesn't suck.
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It didn't help that the last Mechwarrior Game, (4 mercenaries) ended on a cliffhanger about the Word of Blake, and so I had to read about what happened next online instead of "experiencing it myself" in game. Because I refuse to buy a console when I have a PC that outperforms any console in all ways.


#486

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Wait, MechAssault did the Jihad? *interest up*


#487

GasBandit

GasBandit

SpecialKO said:
Wait, MechAssault did the Jihad? *interest up*
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The first one did... the next two dealt with stuff I stopped reading about after the first couple sentences.


#488



Overflight

Origin now automatically adds EA games you previously bought on Steam to your account. The spyware still bothers me enough to avoid getting it but at least this makes ME3 being an Origin exclusive a bit more bearable.

...on the other hand, it's a sad day indeed when we commend a company for not making us buy the same game TWICE.


#489

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I suspect this is a prelude to EA removing ALL of their games from Steam. They still think Origin is a success, despite it's young age and limited library.


#490

Covar

Covar

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/28/get-set-for-jet-set-radio-pc/

Jet Set(Grind) Radio coming to PC.


#491

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I am only using Origin for Mass Effect 3 (and reluctantly so).

If I have a boxed PC copy of Mass Effect 2 is there a way for me to import those save files into origin's Mass Effect 3?


#492

GasBandit

GasBandit

Covar said:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/28/get-set-for-jet-set-radio-pc/

Jet Set(Grind) Radio coming to PC.
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Huh. I hope they figure out a good way to handle the controls. That was one of my favorite dreamcast games for a while.


#493

Covar

Covar

It's another reason while I may just need to bite the bullet and pick up a controller for my pc.


#494

figmentPez

figmentPez

Covar said:
It's another reason while I may just need to bite the bullet and pick up a controller for my pc.
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I've gotten a ton of use out of mine. In fact, I'm used my Madcatz wired 360 controller so much that it's shoulder buttons have gotten mushy and the analog sticks are a little off. So I replaced it with a wireless Microsoft 360 controller for Windows when it was on sale recently. I don't anticipate a shortage of games to play with it.


#495

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

figmentPez said:
I've gotten a ton of use out of mine. In fact, I'm used my Madcatz wired 360 controller so much that it's shoulder buttons have gotten mushy and the analog sticks are a little off. So I replaced it with a wireless Microsoft 360 controller for Windows when it was on sale recently. I don't anticipate a shortage of games to play with it.
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Word. I don't use my wired 360 controller for Windows much, but when I do (for games like Spiral Knights), I really like having it.


#496

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I kind of wish Microsoft wouldn't be such douches and make a wired version of their improved 360 controller or at least release the fucking thing with the PC wireless dongle adapter thing rather than making us buy one of the shitty original wireless controllers with dongle. But Microsoft and not being PC douchefucks does not go together.


#497

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

I haven't used the new one at all, does it make a difference?


#498

Frank

Frankie Williamson

It's D-pad isn't complete and utter shit like the regular controller.


#499

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Fair enough. I don't use the D-pad much, but then I don't play SSFIV at all.


#500

figmentPez

figmentPez

Buy the wireless adapter dongle separately.


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