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I miss it, but I never got to play with you guys.

I got a Pathfinder campaign that meets every weekend.

I'd suck a dick to play some D&D.

That would be like a dex check, right? To see how good you did.

At fellatio.

Skill check, profession: Sex worker/prostitute/gay gigolo.

Cause charisma is more for the build up to the act, is why I wonder.

Edit: so a high int. Is what you want to look for.

I could see that.

I'm sure there's a feat for allowing use of dex with prostitution skill checks.

There's gotta be a synergy bonus.

Which means the time my elf banged the head guard of a casino my group knocked over I rocked his world.

WELL!

D&D Wiki calls it a Performance: Eroticism check. So, charisma it is.

That's silly. Charisma would definitely help you get to the act but just cause you're pretty, doesn't mean you got the skills where it counts.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Sex_(DnD_Variant_Rule)#Perform_.28Eroticism.29

Maybe they'll update it in 5.0.

Apparently Mage Armor is a 20% effective contraception.

You know what they say. No mage armor no mage amore.


Goodnight everyone. I'll be here all week.

I don't get it.

I stopped missing 3.5 the second I found Pathfinder. 4e I don't like because it just doesn't feel right.

Also, I would say that's a Dex check, minute work in the same vein as lockpicking and sleight of hand.

I 'miss' D&D sessions in the same way I 'miss' console games. I'd love to play them, but I don't have the facilities to do so - books and consoles, respectively.

I miss DnD.

I haven't played in like 4 weeks!

I'm the only person in the world that really liked 4E

Ravenpoe said:

I'm the only person in the world that really liked 4E

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Yes. Yes you are.

Ravenpoe said:

I'm the only person in the world that really liked 4E

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I know that feel, bro.

I've adopted it into my now-mostly-homebred A:tLA campaign though, and though I'm itching to get back into the DM chair, waterbending is just too fun in a mostly-coastal setting.

Nope.

/itches inside of elbow

I haven't played in 5 years.

Ravenpoe said:

I'm the only person in the world that really liked 4E

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Not so!

Ravenpoe said:

I'm the only person in the world that really liked 4E

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It wasn't perfect but I enjoyed it.

I WANT TO PLAY SOME D&D BITCHES

Jay said:

It wasn't perfect but I enjoyed it.

I WANT TO PLAY SOME D&D BITCHES

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But all you do in it is complain. Like you're complaining now.
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Penis penis penis.

I'd be up for some Pathfinder play-by-post action if someone's offering to DM

Jay can be a difficult dude to party with.

I miss D&D like a motherfucker, haven't played in like 10 years now

Also, what the fuck is Pathfinder?

I AM BRUTALITOPS

...the magiciaaaan!

Calleja said:

Also, what the fuck is Pathfinder?

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Paizo's take on 3.5. Rules and skills are streamlined, classes have more room for personal flavors and takes, fighters are useful on high levels, grappling rules do not demand 100+ pages.... that sorta stuff. Basically it's D&D 3.75.

BananaHands said:

I AM BRUTALITOPS

...the magiciaaaan!

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I'm Bingbong the Archer. I'm an archer and such.

North_Ranger said:

Paizo's take on 3.5. Rules and skills are streamlined, classes have more room for personal flavors and takes, fighters are useful on high levels, grappling rules do not demand 100+ pages.... that sorta stuff. Basically it's D&D 3.75.

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But unofficial? So it's more of a print-it-from-the-web mod kinda thing? Interesting

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Jay can be a difficult dude to party with.

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You only say that because I didn't allow you to replace Helga with your monk.

I wanna play! I played a few times in high school.

And look at my sword.

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But unofficial? So it's more of a print-it-from-the-web mod kinda thing? Interesting

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*looks at the two-foot high pile of books next to him* Nnnnnnope

Jay said:

You only say that because I didn't allow you to replace Helga with your monk.

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Nah dogg I love Helga. I had no issue with yor DMing other than not making Rathkor live with his mistake.

I mean to party with, ie, Simkin stole from the party and during combat would run and hide, and Saryon played an elaborate months-long prank that served only to make the psychologically-fragile elven maiden descend further into madness.

Basically they went hardcore with the Open Gaming License and created something so awesome it demands its own guitar riff.

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*looks at the two-foot high pile of books next to him* Nnnnnnope

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OH GORRAM IT HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO SPEND!?

Have you guys looked into any of the "play online" D&D site thingies that exist? Some seem to be really awesome with webcam/mike and virtual tabletops, also dice rollers and what not.. seems interesting.

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OH GORRAM IT HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO SPEND!?

Have you guys looked into any of the "play online" D&D site thingies that exist? Some seem to be really awesome with webcam/mike and virtual tabletops, also dice rollers and what not.. seems interesting.

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Well, you basically need only the core rulebook as a player - which costs about $40, I think? Can't remember the correct euro-dollar conversion rate right now.

Me, I'm a firm PbPer, mainly because it's darn hard to get online together when everybody else are living in completely different timezones.

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Have you guys looked into any of the "play online" D&D site thingies that exist? Some seem to be really awesome with webcam/mike and virtual tabletops, also dice rollers and what not.. seems interesting.

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I'm actually a member of Roll20.net - haven't tried playing anything, but they're very actively working on the site. From what I've seen it looks pretty good.

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I actually loved 4e because it was easy to learn and thus it was easier to get new people to play.

Any idiots who say it doesn't encourage roleplaying don't understand that dice and stats have nothing to do with roleplaying. If you weren't going to do it already, no pretty system in the world will fix that.

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I'm actually a member of Roll20.net - haven't tried playing anything, but they're very actively working on the site. From what I've seen it looks pretty good.

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I'd love it if we could get a Halforums game going with one of thse sites or something.

Gusto said:

Nah dogg I love Helga. I had no issue with yor DMing other than not making Rathkor live with his mistake.

I mean to party with, ie, Simkin stole from the party and during combat would run and hide, and Saryon played an elaborate months-long prank that served only to make the psychologically-fragile elven maiden descend further into madness.

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1. Rathkor lived with his mistake and never had it easy afterwards. I do admit, I was too kind on that mistake. It NEVER happened again. DMing was fun. Dem dungeon crawls and full blown RP sessions.

2. Simkin was roleplaying and yes, stealing but sadly the game ended too early before the whole arsenal of what he was all about came into the picture.

3. A fucking classic. I bet your mouth dropped once the reveal came out. DUDE. It was awesome.

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1. Rathkor lived with his mistake and never had it easy afterwards. I do admit, I was too kind on that mistake. It NEVER happened again. DMing was fun. Dem dungeon crawls and full blown RP sessions.

2. Simkin was roleplaying and yes, stealing but sadly the game ended too early before the whole arsenal of what he was all about came into the picture.

3. A fucking classic. I bet your mouth dropped once the reveal came out. DUDE. It was awesome.

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Haven't been part of a proper D&D campaign since the late 90's. Would love to play again.

How far along are they with the 5th?

I'm heading out to D&D right now!

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How far along are they with the 5th?

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Cleric, Fighter, Monk, Rogue, and Wizard are up to level 20. More customization stuff via feats, spells, and the like.

I've really wanted to try pathfinder out.

No general ETA then?

I just got an email from the playtest this morning. New content is available, including barbarian 1-20.

North_Ranger said:

Well, you basically need only the core rulebook as a player - which costs about $40, I think? Can't remember the correct euro-dollar conversion rate right now.

Me, I'm a firm PbPer, mainly because it's darn hard to get online together when everybody else are living in completely different timezones.

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I believe it's $50 list price. What I really love with Pathfinder is how easy and affordable it is for someone who played 3.5 to start playing. You'll want to pick up the other books eventually, but your existing Monster Manuals will work just fine.

Anyone recommend a Renaissance-inspired setting using either the Mage system or D20 or Call of Cthulu/Delta Green?

I have an idea for an assassins/intrigue campaign, but my game group has a lot of casuals in it, so I want to stick to a system they're moderately familiar with, and would prefer not to re-invent the wheel to make the setting work.

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Anyone recommend a Renaissance-inspired setting using either the Mage system or D20 or Call of Cthulu/Delta Green?

I have an idea for an assassins/intrigue campaign, but my game group has a lot of casuals in it, so I want to stick to a system they're moderately familiar with, and would prefer not to re-invent the wheel to make the setting work.

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Well, despite there being clerics and mages and sorcerers, Pathfinder's Golarion setting certainly has a kind of a quasi-Renaissance feel to it, what with theatre and opera being big things, some highly experimental firearms and social upheavals.

RIFTS.

There's probably a renaissance-inspired area somewhere on that Earth. Not quite a system for casuals and you can kiss balance goodbye, but hey, it's RIFTS. There needs to be more love for RIFTS up in here.

North_Ranger
Ooh, that's an idea. They're already fairly familiar with 3.5, so that shouldn't be too hard to swing.

Covar
I've never played Rifts, but I take it it's recommended?

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North_Ranger
Ooh, that's an idea. They're already fairly familiar with 3.5, so that shouldn't be too hard to swing.

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Yup. And if you want to crank it up to eleven... well, let's say that one of the nations described in the setting core book The Inner Sea World Guide is essentially an expy for France during the revolutionary terror. Hell, they even have final blades, magical guillotine blades that suck in the decapitee's soul when the head gets lopped off. Suck on that, resurrection spells!

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North_Ranger
Ooh, that's an idea. They're already fairly familiar with 3.5, so that shouldn't be too hard to swing.

Covar
I've never played Rifts, but I take it it's recommended?

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Not for what you're currently looking for, but yes. The setting is absolutely wild, incorporating pretty much any genre you want (and it strangely enough works). The system itself has a tons of options, no balance, complicated character creation, and one of the best (but certainly not the fastest) combat systems I've ever used.

If you and your players go with Pathfinder, when you read through the rules you will here lots of "finally," "about time," and "oh, that makes so much more sense." It's a great system and really makes a lot of great improvements to 3.5 (my favorite example of why its great: the core classes are playable to 20th level).

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Not for what you're currently looking for, but yes. The setting is absolutely wild, incorporating pretty much any genre you want (and it strangely enough works). The system itself has a tons of options, no balance, complicated character creation, and one of the best (but certainly not the fastest) combat systems I've ever used.

If you and your players go with Pathfinder, when you read through the rules you will here lots of "finally," "about time," and "oh, that makes so much more sense." It's a great system and really makes a lot of great improvements to 3.5 (my favorite example of why its great: the core classes are playable to 20th level).

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I've played campaigns in the Pathfinder system before and really liked it, but I've never touched the setting. Time to rectify that, methinks.

I would love to play! I haven't played since 1994.

I'm old.

Emrys said:

I would love to play! I haven't played since 1994.

I'm old.

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I would live to play to I haven't played since never it makes me feel sad

I would LOVE to play... my work hours are not conducive.

Play from your squad car.

"This is car 20 responding to reports of bandits in the highlands"

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I would live to play to I haven't played since never it makes me feel sad

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We all live to play

I haven't played since 1994 either. I would like to actually watch you guys play one time and then jump in when I remember everything.

We tried to get a 5t Edition game going a few months back but half of us left after the 2nd test session. I'd be up for giving it another go though.

AshburnerX said:

We tried to get a 5t Edition game going a few months back but half of us left after the 2nd test session. I'd be up for giving it another go though.

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Penis penis penis.

Ravenpoe said:

Penis penis penis.

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Mushroom mushroom

I may be getting involved in a Dark Heresy game soon. I'm pretty excited, because I love the 40k setting, but have never gotten a chance to join a game in it. Has anybody else played DH and if so what was your experience like?

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I may be getting involved in a Dark Heresy game soon. I'm pretty excited, because I love the 40k setting, but have never gotten a chance to join a game in it. Has anybody else played DH and if so what was your experience like?

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Don't get too attached.

To anyone

I have never actually played D&D, but I'd be up for giving it a shot.

Oh man. That horse. That fucking horse. Poor poor Julie. I mean I'd feel really bad if it wasn't one of the most elaborate and long jokes ever to play out from a very very very simple spell. What did I name that spell anyway, Jay? The guy who sold it to you had a name for it. Like Summon Artificial Intelligence or something like that.[DOUBLEPOST=1363586529][/DOUBLEPOST]How did she eventually figure out that the horse was a prank?

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Oh man. That horse. That fucking horse. Poor poor Julie. I mean I'd feel really bad if it wasn't one of the most elaborate and long jokes ever to play out from a very very very simple spell. What did I name that spell anyway, Jay? The guy who sold it to you had a name for it. Like Summon Artificial Intelligence or something like that.[DOUBLEPOST=1363586529][/DOUBLEPOST]How did she eventually figure out that the horse was a prank?

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One of those dudes arrived and tried to give us a mission. He was another of those Q Continuum-like guys who just kind of appeared every once in a while to give us a sidequest, usually with disastrous consequences. So when this second guy showed up, we basically pulled a Picard and said we weren't gonna play along with his shenanigans. He pulled a hissy fit by revealing some of our most hidden secrets, including the horse prank, and disappearing.

... I just started playing a slightly rebooted version of Errik again. Still so much fun, especially now that I don't really have to worry about allies in the AoE anymore.

Ah yes. Those "Q-Continuum guys". Basically I saw them as "recruiters" sent by the Dark Powers of the Dark Realms (Ravenloft) to find heroes to use as tools in their continuing quest to... basically just fuck with people. The Dark Powers really are just a DM tool in the long run, but with a sort of dark purpose behind them. It's assumed they consider themselves the wardens for the beings they have trapped within the realms. Each "prisoner" gets their own realm usually, which they often do with as they please, but they are still trapped. Often enough the Dark Powers also bestow a curse upon each prisoner. Something that makes their containment completely unbearable. Such as Strahd having to watch his beloved plummet to her death each night. Or the wooden puppet Maligno who dreams of becoming human, but is the only magical puppet in his realm who cannot steal a human body.
Very often (again as a DM tool) the Dark Powers draw heroes into the realms for often undisclosed reasons. Sometimes they wish to see the heroes triumphantly vanquish evil, but more-often they just enjoy tempting good souls into performing evil deeds while within the realms.

Euric, and his replacement (after Euric saved you guys from being forever claimed by the Dark Powers and was imprisoned himself) were there to find potential heroes/victims. They could sense the potential evil or goodness in people, and only sought out those that truly embraced their alignments. A similar character in the books was often referred to as the "gentleman caller" who was never seen but usually preceded the party and put things in motion.

Euric was a slightly more decent individual than you ever gave him credit for. While doing his job for the Dark Powers he brought you to places that often truly needed your help such as the town that Maligno had taken control over. At first the Dark Powers were entertained by your stomping of their prisoners, but after the events that occurred in the realm ruled by Julie's character's brother they had decided that they wanted to keep Julie and continue to tempt her down a darker path. Euric gave his bosses the ultimate finger, and tossed you out of their grasp just in time.

Euric basically became number 1 on the Dark Power's shit list. Imprisonment, torture, etc. Eventually the old gypsy that Errik owed several favors to would have found the party and informed them that the only way to settle the debt would be to rescue her son (Euric).

I had a feeling.

I've even gone on to tell my current GM that Errik owes gypsy fortunetellers 4 favours, and that my Leomund's Secret Chest is special. The ritual of the same name demands that a chest be constructed of at least a certain value and something personal must be part of its construction. I described the chest itself being carved of the willows of Adia's Aiurwood and the lid is inset with a glass globe containing Kratash's ashes.

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I had a feeling.

I've even gone on to tell my current GM that Errik owes gypsy fortunetellers 4 favours, and that my Leomund's Secret Chest is special. The ritual of the same name demands that a chest be constructed of at least a certain value and something personal must be part of its construction. I described the chest itself being carved of the willows of Adia's Aiurwood and the lid is inset with a glass globe containing Kratash's ashes.

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awwwww

So I'm DMing for a group of friends on Monday nights. We're doing Pathfinder, so it's a little different from 3.5 and I made a bit of a mistake by not consulting everyone on what source material we're all using. It's been going alright. We're still shaking the rust off, but we're having fun for the most part. We do have a problem though.

One of our guys, Nick, is dominating the field. He's a bit of a rules lawyer, and I don't think his character is breaking any rules but it's a maxed out gnome cavalier on a wolf-mount. He's got over 50hp now that he's lvl3. It's starting to hurt the fun of everyone else because now we have him charging in and tanking, while the rogue does some crazy sneak attack dmg but our Bard and Oracle are left kind of twiddling their thumbs.

I'm thinking of making changes to the module we're playing so instead of each room having like 3 kobolds or whatever, maybe it should have like 5 kobolds and also maybe an ogre or something. Enough to keep Nick occupied while giving everyone else something to do.

Anyone else have any ideas? Besides just focus firing on Nick until he dies.

4th edition

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Nope.

1) More encounters (in the event of using daily abilities) OR bigger encounters (if otherwise).
2) Tight, indoor combat that might limit his ability to charge or even have a mount.[DOUBLEPOST=1365628738][/DOUBLEPOST]In short terms, figure out what he's doing well and limit his ability to do that, either by increasing monster defences in a certain way, changing the environment, etc.

Ugh, Gnome on wolf mount, so it's only a medium size anyway. That's hard to limit anywhere.

Have situations where the wolf will not be allowed, like in a public indoor place or some sort of formal court.

Have combat situations wherein the wolf will be less easy to control, like faced with significant enough predator that it's first instinct is to flee, against enemies with some sort of animal control ability, or even in a situation with confusing/frightening sounds and smells.

Have enemy types/formations that makes approaching mounted more dangerous, such as against spearmen or phalanxes.

Just some ideas, phil ...

1.) Battlefield control: limit his chances for cavalry charges, or provide environments where he can't get on wolfback. Caltrops, marbles, kobolds on top of walls with spears, tanglefoot bags... even something as simple as having to climb up a ladder.

2.) Magic: have the party encounter spellcasters who don't try to whittle down their hp but go after their minds with illusions, mind control spells or simply thins like cause fear. If he's a cavalier, his Will saving throws probably aren't very good, unless he pumped up Wisdom during character creation. Also remember that a lot of direct-damage spells resolve their attacks against touch AC, meaning that heavy armor won't save his bacon all the time.

3.) Ability score damage: introduce enemies that cause ability score damage. Something as simple as a pack of giant spiders whose venom causes Str damage can be a nice way to make him think twice about charging right into the fray. Web him with multiple spiders, then have them chomp down for multiple doses of spider venom. He apparently has a decent Fortitude save, but all it takes is a single bad roll...

4.) Reach weapons and ranged weapons: take a lesson from history, and use the weapons that were the bane of armored cavalry. Or if he himself favors reach weapons, throw in a lot of combatants that get on his skin, thus denying him the use of reach weapons.

5.) Firearms: campaign-dependant, of course, but even rudimentary firearms in Pathfinder resolve attack rolls against touch AC, effectively making a heavily-armored cavalier very, very squishy indeed.

Have the three kobolds throw pepper at the wolf.

Have the wolf go into heat.

It's a gnome on a wolf. a small ditch, fence or stream nearly incapacitates it.

Have more flying range attack critters.

Or the classic rust monster riding a rhinoceros.

Or be a nice GM and treat the wolf like Lady.

Fuck, a ladder. I love it. They're about to reach the room with a rope leading down to level 2 of the dungeon. If I make it deep enough he won't risk just having the wolf jump down. I don't think anyone knows fetherfall or anything either. He'll still be a bit of a powerhouse but at least it'll speed up combat a bit.

And the best part is that it's just the right level of sinisterly dickish.

Be ready to strike them with surprise combat as the gnome invariably slows down the party trying to fashion a method for the wolf to descend.

Or change to 4th edition.

I'm sure he's nasty, but wolves generally aren't. A wolf should be pretty easy for a monster to end quickly. Get him dismounted for a while at least.

I dunno man, it's like a level 3 wolf with I think a feat or something? I dunno. Shit's kinda fucked, but they're having fun with it. We're actually all playing gnomes, just for the hell of it.

Don't pets/mounts level with the player? I know they did in 3/3.5.

Dunno if this is doable in the dungeon you're planning, but if you can put him in situations where he might fail the edicts of his order (and thus lose combat bonuses for 1 day), that might make his minmaxing-rules-lawyer-ishness work against him.

Maybe. It would.be tough because he's of the one where he has to help his friends at all costs or whatever. Short of a batman villain scenario where he has to choose between Beowulf (his mount) and a party member I don't think that's doable.

Cater to the other players. If you feel they are not being utilized, find ways to involve them in the combat that might not require battles. Also consider using varying heights so that baddies are attempting to shoot at the players from places a wolf cannot go. (as mentioned before). Plus use a system of traps. Kobolds are like the kings of traps. One little pit trap can mean pretty much certain doom for a gnome on a wolf. Then he's at the mercy of his party who doesn't rush into combat to help him out.[DOUBLEPOST=1365680435][/DOUBLEPOST]Just remember not to make the guy playing the cavalier feel too useless either. It may not be possible to cater to everyone in a battle, but make sure you give those who missed out an opportunity to shine in the next one.

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Maybe. It would.be tough because he's of the one where he has to help his friends at all costs or whatever. Short of a batman villain scenario where he has to choose between Beowulf (his mount) and a party member I don't think that's doable.

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Hmmm, I think you can get away with something simpler than that. Have them attacked by something which he could conceivably meatshield (or challenge) for that can't be charged by him. If he goes charging into the thick of things while his party is under fire from a ranged attacker from a higher altitude (for example), that could constitute abandoning his edict. You're not trying to force a Batman scenario, just make him pause and possibly not immediately charge.[DOUBLEPOST=1365712005][/DOUBLEPOST]If you can get him to do something useful besides charge, while the others get a chance to actually do something, the problem is theoretically solved at least for that encounter, no?

Well by sticking to his guns and roleplaying the character perfectly, Errik was killed last night. Not a very satisfying end for the character either, but at least he stayed true to himself.

My reroll for this campaign will be a slightly-rebuilt version of Helga Stormfist the Dwarven Battlerager.

Finally started playing a RL game of 4th edition D&D with RL friends. Had first game last weekend.

5 players + DM

Stephanie is a Halfling Druid.
Jimmy is a Dragonborn Fighter.
Marie-Eve is an Elven Bard.
Sasha is a half-orc cleric.

And I'm....

My game is still going well. I've got some time this week so I'm going to do a lot of redesigning of the 2nd level of this dungeon (which we still didn't get to last time, even though I thought we would) to really tailor it to the players in a way that I think will be fun.

1) I'm going to have the decent down be a rope or something to get Nick off the wolf.
2) I'll also encourage him to do so by having the NPCs with them (three of the five children they've been looking for) saying they're too scared to go back down into the pit to search for the other children. There's three other NPCs with them, who will also volunteer to stay with the children to guard them. This will hopefully speed combat up a bit. I could say that they need at least 3 guards to keep the children safe, so even if they do something crazy to get the wolf down, the party as a whole is nerfed.
3) I'm designing rooms for each player specifically. The bard has slippers of Spider Climb, and is good with a bow so I'll have a room where he'll want to utilize various rock formations as cover to take out enemies and retrieve a key that is on the ceiling. The Rogue is going to have a Metal Gear Solid style sneaking challenge. The Cavalier I might have a scenario where he has to choose between one of the children and a teammate, or maybe since he's designed with tanking in mind a kind of flood of weaker enemies that he has to defeat before they get to his teammates.

What I don't know is what kind of challenge to give the necromancer of the group. He can't raise dead yet but he can control 3HD worth. Maybe a necromancer face off?

Jay , Helga Stormfist at level 13 is gonna be incredible to play. I'm gonna wreck shit and be fairly indestructible.