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I just wanted to throw this out in light of another thread.

We try to have a place here where everyone is included and happy. Racism is a personal choice and I won't bag on anyone for feeling the way they do or expressing it constructively. But what I won't allow is blatant racism calling out a group of people.

Example of what WOULD be allowed:

I work in construction and have a huge dislike and distrust for Mexicans. It's hard for me to find a job now and it's directly because of the hiring of undocumented workers. I always feel that they are talking about me in Spanish and being around them makes me uncomfortable.

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Example of what would NOT be allowed:

Fucking *snip*! Came in, took our jobs and smell like tacos! Fuckers never bathe and I just know they are talking about me in that jibber-jabber language of theirs! God! I just want them to all go back where they came from!

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I think you see the difference.

Oh, and one other thing. Here's the traffic from the last TWO WEEKS. Think about this when you denigrate a society. You may not know who they are, but they are here.

Country Visitors
United States 26,947
Canada 5,037
United Kingdom 1,725
Germany 781
Spain 570
Brazil 503
Netherlands 501
Belgium 470
China 442
New Zealand 365
Finland 351
Australia 333
Sweden 332
Mexico 274
Chile 222
Ecuador 181
Switzerland 176
Portugal 175
France 148
Romania 148
Greece 112
Bermuda 105
Norway 79
Poland 76
Italy 67
Iceland 58
Japan 46
Malaysia 46
Argentina 45
Singapore 44
Philippines 40
Puerto Rico 36
Denmark 34
Thailand 31
Indonesia 27
(not set) 26
Hungary 25
Russia 24
Turkey 23
Ireland 20
Austria 14
Colombia 14
India 13
Venezuela 12
Costa Rica 11
South Africa 11
Ukraine 11
South Korea 10
Taiwan 10
Vietnam 10
Croatia 9
Serbia 9
Czech Republic 7
Hong Kong 7
Israel 7
Lithuania 7
Bulgaria 6
Estonia 5
Peru 5
Iran 4
Latvia 4
Slovakia 4
United Arab Emirates 4
Saudi Arabia 3
Dominican Republic 2
El Salvador 2
Jamaica 2
Kuwait 2
Pakistan 2
Panama 2
Slovenia 2
Sri Lanka 2
Trinidad and Tobago 2
Afghanistan 1
Azerbaijan 1
Bahrain 1
Barbados 1
Belarus 1
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1
Brunei 1
Egypt 1
Faroe Islands 1
Guam 1
Guatemala 1
Guyana 1
Honduras 1
Lebanon 1
Luxembourg 1
Malta 1
New Caledonia 1
Paraguay 1
Qatar 1
Tunisia 1
Uruguay 1

wow, we have some diversity. That's cool.

It is cool!

So really, this thread says: Stay classy Halforums.

You do realise that if all mexicans where WASPs they'd still be taking them jobs, right... because if you do i don't think it can be called racism (to the hypothetical worker guy).

Romania 148

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Ok, no way that was only me... who else is here and what did you steal...

So are these numbers REAL? Are they individual visitors or repeat hits from a regular from said country?

The first one is acceptable too?

Calleja said:

The first one is acceptable too?

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I was going to say the same thing.

What is this, a video from human resources?

Adammon;296640][quote=Calleja said:

The first one is acceptable too?

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I was going to say the same thing.[/QUOTE]

Explaining one's prejudices vs. ROW ROW BURN THE MINORITIES.

Espy said:

So are these numbers REAL? Are they individual visitors or repeat hits from a regular from said country?

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you'd be surprised how global even little niche websites can be.
Last time I checked, my irish music website gets about a half-million hits a year from Russia and Korea.

(I just checked for more precise numbers, and their country resolution is broken )

THEY TOOK MAH JOB...

Denbrought;296643][quote=Adammon;296640][quote=Calleja said:

The first one is acceptable too?

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I was going to say the same thing.[/quote]

Explaining one's prejudices vs. ROW ROW BURN THE MINORITIES.[/QUOTE]

you...CAN'T explain prejudices... that's why they're CALLED prejudices... trying to put them in a rational light just makes you a bigot.

I say even the first one is just asking for trouble.

I like talking like a racist to troll people IRL.

Sure, the person in the first post isn't right... and he/she would probably be at yall's mercy, but that hypothetical poster isn't using slurs or stereotypes to express his/her discomfort.

I'm not saying what I agree with or disagree with, but instead of attacked poster #1, maybe someone could offer some insight or help. Maybe he/she doesn't want to feel that way. It's a learned thing.

And yeah alien, you're right. Concern for lost jobs is a real thing, but it can be expressed better than the second person did.

Calleja said:

you...CAN'T explain prejudices... that's why they're CALLED prejudices... trying to put them in a rational light just makes you a bigot.

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Positive prejudices also exist... but you're right, they're by definition irrational.

Denbrought;296643][quote=Adammon;296640][quote=Calleja said:

The first one is acceptable too?

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I was going to say the same thing.[/QUOTE]

Explaining one's prejudices vs. ROW ROW BURN THE MINORITIES.[/QUOTE]

All this has done is made what's defined as racism up to Dave. That's a tough call on his part if he wants to monitor it. Some would define racism as disparaging remarks made against a race as a whole instead of the individuals responsible for the activity you are against.

Even SeriousJay's post about his Korean neighbours - he was using Korean as a descriptor for his neighbours, not saying all Koreans are evil. (Well, up until later in the thread where he calls all Koreans bad neighbours...)

It's just easier to say that racism is like Porn. Can't define it, but you'll know it when you see it.

Cajungal said:

And yeah alien, you're right. Concern for lost jobs is a real thing, but it can be expressed better than the second person did.

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she wrote the whole thing...


but i was just saying, racism implies seeing race as part of what makes one dislike them... you can't say an american is racism coz he dislikes the british or the french...

Calleja;296647][quote=Denbrought;296643][quote=Adammon;296640][quote=Calleja said:

The first one is acceptable too?

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I was going to say the same thing.[/quote]

Explaining one's prejudices vs. ROW ROW BURN THE MINORITIES.[/quote]

you...CAN'T explain prejudices... that's why they're CALLED prejudices... trying to put them in a rational light just makes you a bigot.[/QUOTE]

I guess trying to understand oneself is such a bigoted thing to do, yeah. Don't worry Calleja, *everybody* that has a mistrust for ____________ out there are a bunch of irrational mouth-foamers when it comes to the subject.

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she wrote the whole thing...


but i was just saying, racism implies seeing race as part of what makes one dislike them... you can't say an american is racism coz he dislikes the british or the french...

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...that wouldn't make him a RACIST, no, but still a BIGOT.... what the hell are you talking about? Generalizing a whole COUNTRY is still bigotry.

Everyone has prejudices and we all have pre-concieved notions and we all have personal experiences that color us one way or the other. That isn't the same thing as racism. It's not "good" but it's a far cry from hating a race for their skin color.

@Denbrought
By definition prejudice implies having an opinion based on lack of knowledge...

@Calleja

Yup, but if we're talking about racism we should stick to it and not include bigotry too. (smoking baby got it)

All this has done is made what's defined as racism up to Dave.

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The way i read it he sees both as racist, but the 1st one he sees as not a banable offence.

Espy said:

Everyone has prejudices and we all have pre-concieved notions and we all have personal experiences that color us one way or the other. That isn't the same thing as racism. It's not "good" but it's a far cry from hating a race for their skin color.

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Some here are going to call it all racism. It's really opening up a can of worms trying to define racism and put guidelines around it. Just let the mods have some discretion and try to keep it on the down low.

FYI I would never stop making fun of either of those posts. People that are earnestly racist are the funniest thing to me. It's so absurd to hate an entire group of people.

Charlie Dont Surf said:

FYI I would never stop making fun of either of those posts. People that are earnestly racist are the funniest thing to me. It's so absurd to hate an entire group of people.

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Just like you hate conservatives right? hur hur.

....fuck, I'm feeling like Charssinger RAGE over this thread, seriously.

We're tolerating bigotry now. Literally.

Are those country stats by IP? Because I don't think I've used 10 different IPs in the last two weeks, so I'm wondering who the other Taiwanese people are.

As for the racism and bigotry issue, I think the first version is all right. It's certainly a lot less vitriolic than what we get in, say, movie threads.

No. We aren't tolerating bigotry. We are tolerating peoples feelings, which isn't always the same thing. We are ALL prejudiced by our experiences and such. Dealing with those isn't racist. If you see something you THINK IS racist just report it and we will deal with it appropriately. Let's not get sidetracked by to many theoretical here people.

eh, Dave's not a MLB Umpire so I trust him to be able to make the correct call.

.... so saying "I don't trust Mexicans" is racism and not bigotry?

Cause there's only ONE race in Mexico?

Cause we're staying within the confines of "racism", because saying "all british people disgust me" is okay, right?

Calleja said:

....fuck, I'm feeling like Charssinger RAGE over this thread, seriously.

We're tolerating bigotry now. Literally.

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No one really got in trouble for saying the same sort of disgusting things/generalizations about women, so I just assumed. I ain't tha bauss. Whatever! It's more gross opinions to laugh at for me.

Oh lawdy this thread is going places.

Also...there are 7 people from Lithuania checking in here? Fucking lugans.

Calleja said:

....fuck, I'm feeling like Charssinger RAGE over this thread, seriously.

We're tolerating bigotry now. Literally.

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Charssinger sounds like a pokemon.

Under these rules Bananahands can't give me prejudice! BAHAHA ^____^

Calleja said:

.... so saying "I don't trust Mexicans" is racism and not bigotry?

Cause there's only ONE race in Mexico?

Cause we're staying within the confines of "racism", because saying "all british people disgust me" is okay, right?

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No is saying any of the above is okay or good. It would, at the very least show severe ignorance, possibly more. Like I said, let's not get sidetracked by to many theoretical.

Calleja said:

.... so saying "I don't trust Mexicans" is racism and not bigotry?

Cause there's only ONE race in Mexico?

Cause we're staying within the confines of "racism", because saying "all british people disgust me" is okay, right?

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Oh for crying out...

I was just nitpicking about how disliking X because they take your job without making it about their race doesn't qualify as racism... how does that imply that it's ok...

I think what Dave is trying to say (and this has been said before) is to not be a dick. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but don't be a dick about it. There are people from all walks of life who enjoy their time here, and that is what makes this place unique.

This is a very fine line and we have to trust the powers that be. Besides, if anything is overly offensive you could always report the post.

I will never stop being a dick to bigots

Vytamindi said:

I think what Dave is trying to say (and this has been said before) is to not be a dick. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but don't be a dick about it. There are people from all walks of life who enjoy their time here, and that is what makes this place unique.

This is a very fine line and we have to trust the powers that be. Besides, if anything is overly offensive you could always report the post.

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Pretty much. Dave's house, Dave's rules. And he's going to call them as he sees them and we should trust that he'll do it correctly because he has in the past and he will continue to do so. Let's not hyperventilate about this. If anything, we've got another topic for a podcast!

You said, @Li3n , that we're discussing "racism" and not "bigotry" in this thread, I'm still waiting for someone to explain how that first example is the first only... Mexico is a whole country with 120 million people and many races in it... so how is saying "mexicans" racism and not the same as saying "all british people"?

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disgusting things/generalizations about women

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Did you report these?

We hear a lot of things people are going to be offended at. On a weekly basis someone here insults my personal religious beliefs, letting me know they think I am a "insert any number of insults" for simply having personal beliefs in a particular religion. Usually from people who screech for tolerance on a regular basis. Do I report them or ban them? No. Because people say offensive things. It's called life. There is a line and we deal with it when people cross it (assuming it's reported and we know about it).

I'm off to class but lets keep this thread sane.

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I will never stop being a dick to bigots

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And that is your right as well. In fact, it's what makes this place so awesome.

Around here, if you post something outrageous, there is always someone to call you out and equally berate you for your craziness (see Icarus).

And to clarify:

Vytamindi said:

I think what Dave is trying to say (and this has been said before) is to not be a dick. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but don't be a dick about it. There are people from all walks of life who enjoy their time here, and that is what makes this place unique.

This is a very fine line and we have to trust the powers that be. Besides, if anything is overly offensive you could always report the post.

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YES.

Calleja said:

.... so saying "I don't trust Mexicans" is racism and not bigotry?

Cause there's only ONE race in Mexico?

Cause we're staying within the confines of "racism", because saying "all british people disgust me" is okay, right?

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I can understand why you are upset. It's the equivalent of saying "Americans are _______" No, that is not ok.

I think what Dave is saying is racism and bigotry filled with vitriol and hatred are over the line of what is acceptable when discussing these issues. There is, as Espy has said, prejudices and misunderstandings of cultures that we all have. It is perpetuated through stereotypes and fears we often need someone to blame.

I think the lesson of C.P. Ellis, former head of the KKK in Durham, North Carolina, could go a long way in showing how the first step to overcoming our biases is by not hiding them and confronting them head on. Discovering where those biases come from can be difficult, but can be achieved through conversation. You won't change someone's mind by yelling that their feelings don't matter.

Calleja - Would you be this pissed if Dave had used another nationality as an example? If he had said Indian dot-head, sand rats would you have even batted a lash at this thread?

Okay, back from lunch. I wondered where this would lead.

The reason I made this thread wasn't to condone bigotry or racism, merely to attempt to more thoroughly define what is an infractionable offense and what is protected under free speech. I'm not condoning EITHER of the examples and I'd fully expect that if someone says something like these that they'd be called out. But I'm not going to slap an infraction on anyone just because they say things I don't like.

And I used the Mexican example because as a person who has worked closely with construction people I have heard many variations of both.

Again, we are NOT condoning bigotry, but we also have to tread a fine line between allowing free speech and making the environment one that is comfortable to all.

To be honest the OP for this thread could have been "Because it's bad" and I would have accepted it.

Wildsoul said:

Calleja - Would you be this pissed if Dave had used another nationality as an example? If he had said Indian dot-head, sand rats would you have even batted a lash at this thread?

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Yes, like you can see in this very thread someone tried to pass of "all british people" as not bigotry and I called them out on it.

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Frankly, I'm a bit insulted and surprised at your implication, WildSoul, I've also been pissed off and militant in threads that were tolerating remarks against gay people, and I'm NOT gay.

So only cause I'm Mexican I won't tolerate bigotry?

Why is it that whenever I picture Dave he's holding his head in his hands?

Only here could a thread telling us to knock off the racism get people to start pulling the "Oh, just because I'm a ______, I'm _______?" card.

Armadillo said:

Only here could a thread telling us to knock off the racism get people to start pulling the "Oh, just because I'm a ______, I'm _______?" card.

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I totally understand where Calleja is coming from. I didn't word the first part right. For one, I should have stated my purpose for the thread. Second, I should have used a fictitious country. Anvilania immediately springs to mind.

I apologize for the misconception and for the initial post, but I was hungry and leaving for lunch.

Calleja;296729][quote=Wildsoul said:

Calleja - Would you be this pissed if Dave had used another nationality as an example? If he had said Indian dot-head, sand rats would you have even batted a lash at this thread?

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Yes, like you can see in this very thread someone tried to pass of "all british people" as not bigotry and I called them out on it.

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Frankly, I'm a bit insulted and surprised at your implication, WildSoul, I've also been pissed off and militant in threads that were tolerating remarks against gay people, and I'm NOT gay.

So only cause I'm Mexican I won't tolerate bigotry?[/QUOTE]

That's not what I'm saying. I thought, from what I am reading, you were more pissed that the examples Dave gave were about Mexicans and maybe if he had used another nationality you wouldn't really have been as upset with this thread. I can't say I've paid too much attention to you being militant in other threads regarding bigotry.

Man I wanna go for lunch but I can't drag myself away from the computer today.

Dave;296739][quote=Armadillo said:

Only here could a thread telling us to knock off the racism get people to start pulling the "Oh, just because I'm a ______, I'm _______?" card.

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I totally understand where Calleja is coming from. I didn't word the first part right. For one, I should have stated my purpose for the thread. Second, I should have used a fictitious country. Anvilania immediately springs to mind.

I apologize for the misconception and for the initial post, but I was hungry and leaving for lunch.[/QUOTE]

My ancestors are from Anvilania, you son of a bitch.

I should probably stop with the smartassery now.

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Gusto said:

Man I wanna go for lunch but I can't drag myself away from the computer today.

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I'm in the same boat. Looks like my stomach's going to have to digest it's own lining.

Gusto said:

Man I wanna go for lunch but I can't drag myself away from the computer today.

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I have a paper due in 52 minutes. GUESS WHAT I'M MORE FOCUSED ON!

Wildsoul said:

That's not what I'm saying. I thought, from what I am reading, you were more pissed that the examples Dave gave were about Mexicans and maybe if he had used another nationality you wouldn't really have been as upset with this thread. I can't say I've paid too much attention to you being militant in other threads regarding bigotry.

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you don't need to go to another thread... I made FIVE posts in this very one without mentioning at all the word "Mexican", and, in fact, I jumped at SOMEONE ELSE'S implication that saying "anyone from X country.." was not racism. That's where I jumped. If the example had been Lithuania I would have jumped just the same. I'm not patriotic, AT ALL, and feel no need to defend Mexico in the eyes of foreigners.

Bigotry is another matter entirely that I AM vocal about.

So, please, pay attention if you're going to throw accusations.

It wasn't an accusation. I was just asking a question.

A bigoted opinion is still just a personal opinion. We don't condemn people for having a personal opinion mostly because there is ALWAYS someone pissed off by the opinion. We would have no one here. Instead the intent is to keep the expression of that opinion as unobnoxious and unantagonistic as possible. Some people hold offensive opinions some are just trying to offend with their opinion.

I am not pissed about you using "Mexicans", Dave, I was pissed at someone implying that a nationality is akin to a race. It's not. It's another generalization that qualifies as bigotry. I understand why illegal Mexican immigrants have created a negative view and hold no sympathy for them.

If you had used "Anvilmania" I still would have been bewildered at the implication that the first one was "alright".

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I am not pissed about you using "Mexicans", Dave, I was pissed at someone implying that a nationality is akin to a race. It's not. It's another generalization that qualifies as bigotry. I understand why illegal Mexican immigrants have created a negative view and hold no sympathy for them.

If you had used "Anvilmania" I still would have been bewildered the implication that the first one was "alright".

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Do you see what I was trying to get at, though? makare put it very, very well.

makare1 said:

A bigoted opinion is still just a personal opinion. We don't condemn people for having a personal opinion mostly because there is ALWAYS someone pissed off by the opinion. We would have no one here. Instead the intent is to keep the expression of that opinion as unobnoxious and unantagonistic as possible. Some people hold offensive opinions some are just trying to offend with their opinion.

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Exactly. If the goal was to ensure that nobody was EVER offended, we wouldn't have a message board. Also, since "bigotry" as a term can be very vague in terms of definition, it would be nearly impossible to enforce a "no bigotry" standard.

phil;296747][quote=Gusto said:

Man I wanna go for lunch but I can't drag myself away from the computer today.

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I have a paper due in 52 minutes. GUESS WHAT I'M MORE FOCUSED ON![/QUOTE]


If you guessed episodes of Stargate: SG-1 on Hulu, you are correct.

Calleja said:

You said, @Li3n , that we're discussing \"racism\" and not \"bigotry\" in this thread, I'm still waiting for someone to explain how that first example is the first only... Mexico is a whole country with 120 million people and many races in it... so how is saying \"mexicans\" racism and not the same as saying \"all british people\"?

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So you wheren't arguing against me then i guess...

And it's racism because they have this thing called a "one drop rule"...

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Do you see what I was trying to get at, though? makare put it very, very well.

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I do now. Frankly I think you didn't word that OP and Title very well, since that "I think you see the difference" left me mouth agape. One may have no swear words in it like the second one, but I find it just as "racist". The title of the thread is "Why we're not tolerating Racism" when that first example implies you ARE tolerating racism, just racism that's not filled with slurs.

I understand where you're coming from, you can't hold down people's opinions, but then the title should not be "we're not tolerating Racism" and instead be "we're not tolerating dicks". See my point?

Calleja;296763][quote=Dave said:

Do you see what I was trying to get at, though? makare put it very, very well.

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I do now. Frankly I think you didn't word that OP and Title very well, since that "I think you see the difference" left me mouth agape. One may have no swear words in it like the second one, but I find it just as "racist". The title of the thread is "Why we're not tolerating Racism" when that first example implies you ARE tolerating racism, just racism that's not filled with slurs.

I understand where you're coming from, you can't hold down people's opinions, but then the title should not be "we're not tolerating Racism" and instead be "we're not tolerating dicks". See my point?[/QUOTE]

I do. That's what I get for posting in a hurry to run to Blimpie subs...

Hansagan said:

Why is it that whenever I picture Dave he's holding his head in his hands?

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I do too, actually.

Calleja;296763][quote=Dave said:

Do you see what I was trying to get at, though? makare put it very, very well.

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I do now. Frankly I think you didn't word that OP and Title very well, since that "I think you see the difference" left me mouth agape. One may have no swear words in it like the second one, but I find it just as "racist". The title of the thread is "Why we're not tolerating Racism" when that first example implies you ARE tolerating racism, just racism that's not filled with slurs.

I understand where you're coming from, you can't hold down people's opinions, but then the title should not be "we're not tolerating Racism" and instead be "we're not tolerating dicks". See my point?[/QUOTE]

I understand. But also I get Dave position to ensure some degree of neutrality, even it means to let some disguised bigots inside the forum =/

Calleja said:

I understand where you're coming from, you can't hold down people's opinions, but then the title should not be "we're not tolerating Racism" and instead be "we're not tolerating dicks". See my point?

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Does that mean Tinwhistler's junk has to go?

Can we still hate people based on irrational things not having to do with race, like being fat or having an irrational love of pickles?

Fuckin' pickle lovers.

Fun Size said:

Can we still hate people based on irrational things not having to do with race, like being fat or having an irrational love of pickles?

Fuckin' pickle lovers.

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Don't you talk that way about my pickles!

BlackCrossCrusader;296773][quote=Fun Size said:

Can we still hate people based on irrational things not having to do with race, like being fat or having an irrational love of pickles?

Fuckin' pickle lovers.

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Don't you talk that way about my pickles![/QUOTE]

Dude, I wasn't calling you out personal or nothin', but if the brine fits...

I still want to know if the numbers given are individual hits or individual visitors.

Fun Size said:

Can we still hate people based on irrational things not having to do with race, like being fat or having an irrational love of pickles?

Fuckin' pickle lovers.

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Green_Lantern said:

I still want to know if the numbers given are individual hits or individual visitors.

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Hits. Want me to look at unique visitors?

Dave said:

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Green_Lantern said:

I still want to know if the numbers given are individual hits or individual visitors.

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Hits. Want me to look at unique visitors?

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If it isn't too much trouble

Dave said:

Green_Lantern said:

I still want to know if the numbers given are individual hits or individual visitors.

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Hits. Want me to look at unique visitors?

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Heck yeah, I'm curious about this too.

I'm so glad I had the day off from work.

Country/Territory Unique Visitors
United States 5,480
Canada 833
United Kingdom 420
Germany 232
Australia 180
Brazil 132
France 120
Spain 112
Mexico 100
Romania 88
Poland 66
Finland 63
Italy 63
Netherlands 63
Sweden 51
Belgium 42
Singapore 42
Switzerland 41
China 40
New Zealand 38
Philippines 36
Argentina 34
Portugal 34
Japan 33
Chile 28
Denmark 24
Hungary 24
Norway 24
Indonesia 22
Turkey 22
Greece 20
Ireland 20
Malaysia 20
Russia 20
(not set) 19
Colombia 14
Austria 13
India 13
Puerto Rico 11
South Africa 11
Thailand 11
South Korea 10
Taiwan 10
Ukraine 10
Venezuela 10
Vietnam 10
Bermuda 9
Croatia 9
Costa Rica 8
Czech Republic 7
Israel 7
Bulgaria 6
Ecuador 6
Hong Kong 6
Iceland 6
Estonia 5
Lithuania 5
Peru 5
Serbia 5
Iran 4
Latvia 4
Slovakia 4
United Arab Emirates 4
Saudi Arabia 3
Dominican Republic 2
El Salvador 2
Jamaica 2
Kuwait 2
Pakistan 2
Panama 2
Slovenia 2
Sri Lanka 2
Trinidad and Tobago 2
Afghanistan 1
Azerbaijan 1
Bahrain 1
Barbados 1
Belarus 1
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1
Brunei 1
Egypt 1
Faroe Islands 1
Guam 1
Guatemala 1
Guyana 1
Honduras 1
Lebanon 1
Luxembourg 1
Malta 1
New Caledonia 1
Paraguay 1
Qatar 1
Tunisia 1
Uruguay 1

Calleja;296729][quote=Wildsoul said:

Calleja - Would you be this pissed if Dave had used another nationality as an example? If he had said Indian dot-head, sand rats would you have even batted a lash at this thread?

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Yes, like you can see in this very thread someone tried to pass of "all british people" as not bigotry and I called them out on it.
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I'm pretty sure i said that wasn't racism, not bigotry...

I saw this in the list: (not set) 19.

What does that mean? Their ISP doesn't have a country or they are behind a proxie?

Question to the guy from Malta. Have you seen the celebratory film of your culture, Final Justice?

Either it's a country code that was not recognized, it was a spider or just a system glitch. Not sure about a proxy.

Wildsoul said:

I saw this in the list: (not set) 19.

What does that mean? Their ISP doesn't have a country or they are behind a proxie?

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Naturally.

Now, if you'd just look into the light...

I LOLd

Iaculus;296810][quote=Wildsoul said:

I saw this in the list: (not set) 19.

What does that mean? Their ISP doesn't have a country or they are behind a proxie?

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Naturally.

Now, if you'd just look into the light...

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Look into the light? What...

Dave said:

Country/Territory Unique Visitors
United States 5,480
Canada 833
United Kingdom 420
Germany 232
Australia 180
Brazil 132
France 120
Spain 112
Mexico 100
Romania 88
Poland 66
Finland 63
Italy 63
Netherlands 63
Sweden 51
Belgium 42
Singapore 42
Switzerland 41
China 40
New Zealand 38
Philippines 36
Argentina 34
Portugal 34
Japan 33
Chile 28
Denmark 24
Hungary 24
Norway 24
Indonesia 22
Turkey 22
Greece 20
Ireland 20
Malaysia 20
Russia 20
(not set) 19
Colombia 14
Austria 13
India 13
Puerto Rico 11
South Africa 11
Thailand 11
South Korea 10
Taiwan 10
Ukraine 10
Venezuela 10
Vietnam 10
Bermuda 9
Croatia 9
Costa Rica 8
Czech Republic 7
Israel 7
Bulgaria 6
Ecuador 6
Hong Kong 6
Iceland 6
Estonia 5
Lithuania 5
Peru 5
Serbia 5
Iran 4
Latvia 4
Slovakia 4
United Arab Emirates 4
Saudi Arabia 3
Dominican Republic 2
El Salvador 2
Jamaica 2
Kuwait 2
Pakistan 2
Panama 2
Slovenia 2
Sri Lanka 2
Trinidad and Tobago 2
Afghanistan 1
Azerbaijan 1
Bahrain 1
Barbados 1
Belarus 1
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1
Brunei 1
Egypt 1
Faroe Islands 1
Guam 1
Guatemala 1
Guyana 1
Honduras 1
Lebanon 1
Luxembourg 1
Malta 1
New Caledonia 1
Paraguay 1
Qatar 1
Tunisia 1
Uruguay 1

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... fucking Madagascarians.

How come there are way more Mexicans than Belgians coming in and I'm now the only surviving Mexican regular poster and there are, like, 42 Belgians around? HUH?

So just to be clear, can I still ridicule people and call them out for bigoted opinions?

Calleja said:

How come there are way more Mexicans than Belgians coming in and I'm now the only surviving Mexican regular poster and there are, like, 42 Belgians around? HUH?

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Because there's no jobs to steal here yet, so they're just lurking for now...

Kissinger said:

So just to be clear, can I still ridicule people and call them out for bigoted opinions?

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Yes. You have that right.

And Calleja, that just means they visit, not that they post.

Dave;296831][quote=Kissinger said:

So just to be clear, can I still ridicule people and call them out for bigoted opinions?

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Yes. You have that right.[/QUOTE]

Thank God, because I don't think I'd keep coming here if I couldn't do that.

Kissinger;296834][quote=Dave;296831][quote=Kissinger said:

So just to be clear, can I still ridicule people and call them out for bigoted opinions?

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Yes. You have that right.[/QUOTE]

Thank God, because I don't think I'd keep coming here if I couldn't do that.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to think that the "Don't be a dick" rule still applies though.

I am going to go ahead and report this thread.

Adammon said:

I'd like to think that the "Don't be a dick" rule still applies though.

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But once you've broken that once you never look back...

Adammon;296836][quote=Kissinger;296834][quote=Dave;296831][quote=Kissinger said:

So just to be clear, can I still ridicule people and call them out for bigoted opinions?

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Yes. You have that right.[/QUOTE]

Thank God, because I don't think I'd keep coming here if I couldn't do that.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to think that the "Don't be a dick" rule still applies though.[/QUOTE]

Oh, right. That rule.

How about a compromise. I'll go dick-ISH.

Whoa! 63 unique users from Finland?! For reals? I thought I was the only one.

Luckily by both measurements we're still pretty much ahead those damn Swedes I can still make fun of Swedes, can I? It's just friendly ribbing...