Search forums

Forums

Export thread

Wii Price drops to $200 (20% cut) this Sunday

Sep 24, 2009#1

Ross

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8272240.stm

http://www.pcworld.com/article/172530/wii_price_cut_takes_aim_at_xbox_360_ps3.html/

Finally, the Wii is coming down in price after nearly 3 years at $250.

I have a thing about not buying consoles at their debut prices (unless it's a gift), so this is a big plus for me. I'll definitely be picking one up soon, considering I have the $180 Rock Band 2 for the Wii without a Wii system, which unfortunately belonged to my old roommate/ex-girlfriend.

Sep 24, 2009#2

bhamv3

Oooo, I'm thinking of getting a Wii, even though the price cut probably won't extend to Taiwan here.

Game recommendations are welcome.

Sep 24, 2009#3

Cajungal

oo da lolly

Sep 24, 2009#4

Hylian

IF I didn't already own a Wii I am sure I would be more enthusiastic about the price drop

Sep 24, 2009#5

JCM

1.Sell an overpriced popular console that runs laps around "hardcore" consoles in sales.

2.Wait for competition to lower their prices (X360 had a price drop, now theres the PS3 slim).

3.Lower your console price, watch 1. happen again.

Sep 24, 2009#6

Frankie Williamson

4. Continue to sell Wii fits to fat women.

Sep 24, 2009#7

Chibibar

heh. I remember that Nintendo said that they were not going to lower prices

of course there was an article that Sony denies the "slim" PS3 also.

Sep 24, 2009#8

Adammon

Well, at least it's getting closer in price to what it's actually worth.

*grumbles*

If Nintendo would be so kind to actually release games for it, that might change my perspective on it a bit.

Sep 24, 2009#9

klew

I have all three current systems back home, but can't ship them here (or bring them on a plane), so I was considering getting a second when I finally buy a tv, hopefully in a month, then selling it when I leave. It was either a Wii or PS3 slim. With the price drop, I might be able to justify getting both, especially if I can sell them for a profit.

Sep 24, 2009#10

Shegokigo

klew said:
I have all three current systems back home, but can't ship them here (or bring them on a plane), so I was considering getting a second when I finally buy a tv, hopefully in a month, then selling it when I leave. It was either a Wii or PS3 slim. With the price drop, I might be able to justify getting both, especially if I can sell them for a profit.

*glaring as hard as she can, her eyes form daggers and impale klew with a voracious speed and appetite*

Sep 24, 2009#11

Hylian

Shegokigo;262487][quote=klew said:
I have all three current systems back home, but can't ship them here (or bring them on a plane), so I was considering getting a second when I finally buy a tv, hopefully in a month, then selling it when I leave. It was either a Wii or PS3 slim. With the price drop, I might be able to justify getting both, especially if I can sell them for a profit.

*glaring as hard as she can, her eyes form daggers and impale klew with a voracious speed and appetite*[/QUOTE]

I have all 3 as well but sadly my 360 isn't working right now but I do own it.

Sep 24, 2009#12

AshburnerX

Chibibar said:
heh. I remember that Nintendo said that they were not going to lower prices of course there was an article that Sony denies the "slim" PS3 also.

Sep 24, 2009#13

Chibibar

AshburnerX;262553][quote=Chibibar said:
heh. I remember that Nintendo said that they were not going to lower prices of course there was an article that Sony denies the "slim" PS3 also.

Nintendo didn't want to lower prices because they felt it sent the wrong message to some of the people who buy consoles ("Wait a few years and it'll be cheaper"). Once they realized how fucking many consoles they were selling, this idea was thrown right out the window.[/QUOTE]

heh. Yea. I was not surprise at all that they will lower the price. Like I wasn't surprise when the Chinese "accidentally" release PS3 slim model

Sep 24, 2009#14

V.Bond

Now if only the prices on their games would go down as well.

Sep 24, 2009#15

Ross

Vagabond said:
Now if only the prices on their games would go down as well.

The games are typically $50 ($10 than most x360/ps3 games), but they get you with the peripherals.

Sep 24, 2009#16

JCM

Ross;262700][quote=Vagabond said:
Now if only the prices on their games would go down as well.

The games are typically $50 ($10 than most x360/ps3 games), but they get you with the peripherals.[/QUOTE]Most games dont require peripherals, there were more peripherals around for PS2/PS1/Dreamcast than Ive seen for the Wii (Just off my head, steering wheels, flight sticks, bongos, motorcycle handlebars, mice and keyboards, guns, cameras/eye toys, plastic guitars, dance mats, PS2 expansion bays, heck, we even have a vibrator).

Maybe the only difference is that Wii games with peripherals actually sell well.
And we dont have a vibrator.
Yet.

Sep 24, 2009#17

AshburnerX

It does have a MUST have peripheral though, if you don't have a GC controller: The Classic Game Controller. Without one, you can't play a lot of old school games on the Virtual Console.

Sep 25, 2009#18

Olorin

I love how they announced the price drop exactly when Sony was holding a press conference

I already have a Wii, but it's good news for the people who don't have one yet.

Adammon said:
If Nintendo would be so kind to actually release games for it, that might change my perspective on it a bit.

It's not 2007 anymore... there are plenty of good games on the Wii.

Sep 25, 2009#19

Ross

JCM said:
And we dont have a vibrator.
Yet.

What do you mean? The vibrator was released with the original version of the console!

Sep 25, 2009#20

JCM

Ross;262956][quote=JCM said:
And we dont have a vibrator.
Yet.

What do you mean? The vibrator was released with the original version of the console!

[/QUOTE]Okay then, but that makes it need even less peripherals.

I dont need a light gun, steering wheel or even a dancing mat on the Wii.

Sep 25, 2009#21

Drachenherz

Okay, that's good news, because with the release of Metroid Trilogy, I finally found a reason to get a wii...

Sep 25, 2009#22

AshburnerX

JCM;262959][quote=Ross;262956][quote=JCM said:
And we dont have a vibrator.
Yet.

What do you mean? The vibrator was released with the original version of the console!

[/QUOTE]Okay then, but that makes it need even less peripherals.

I dont need a light gun, steering wheel or even a dancing mat on the Wii.[/QUOTE]

The light gun for the Wii is just a shell that makes it easier to aim the Wiimote in lightgun games (Though it comes with a copy of Link's Crossbow Training, which isn't bad). It's purely cosmetic. Same with the Steering Wheel.

Really, the only peripherals you need with the Wii are WiiMotionPlus and a Classic Gaming controller if you don't already have a Gamecube controller. The rest are purely for fun.

Sep 25, 2009#23

ThatNickGuy

AshburnerX said:
It does have a MUST have peripheral though, if you don't have a GC controller: The Classic Game Controller. Without one, you can't play a lot of old school games on the Virtual Console.

You mean, like the old NES controller?

Can't you just turn your Wiimote sideways?

Sep 25, 2009#24

Adammon

Olorin said:
I love how they announced the price drop exactly when Sony was holding a press conference
I already have a Wii, but it's good news for the people who don't have one yet.

Adammon said:

If Nintendo would be so kind to actually release games for it, that might change my perspective on it a bit.

Click to expand...

It's not 2007 anymore... there are plenty of good games on the Wii.

Quick, name the top 5 games for Wii released in 2009.

Sep 25, 2009#25

ThatNickGuy

Most of the big titles were also on the other systems (which isn't a fair comparison to all three them), but I can name at least two:

Punchout
Madworld

Sep 25, 2009#26

AshburnerX

ThatNickGuy;263091][quote=AshburnerX said:
It does have a MUST have peripheral though, if you don't have a GC controller: The Classic Game Controller. Without one, you can't play a lot of old school games on the Virtual Console.

You mean, like the old NES controller?

Can't you just turn your Wiimote sideways?[/QUOTE]

A lot of the Virtual Console stuff is from the 16-bit era. You need 4 face and 2 shoulder buttons for that, not just two face buttons.

Sep 25, 2009#27

Adammon

ThatNickGuy said:
Most of the big titles were also on the other systems (which isn't a fair comparison to all three them), but I can name at least two:

Punchout
Madworld

2 games this year (And no, big titles don't translate well to the Wii - can't compare there).

Like I said, Nintendo needs to release more games - and no, not "Wii Resort".

Sep 26, 2009#28

AshburnerX

We're getting some good rail shooters this year in Dead Space: Extraction and another Resident Evil. But honestly... I want a fucking RPG that's not on the Virtual Console.

Sep 26, 2009#29

GeneralOrder24

Adammon;263164][quote=ThatNickGuy said:
Most of the big titles were also on the other systems (which isn't a fair comparison to all three them), but I can name at least two:

Punchout
Madworld

2 games this year (And no, big titles don't translate well to the Wii - can't compare there).

Like I said, Nintendo needs to release more games - and no, not "Wii Resort".[/QUOTE]

the conduit
metroid prime trilogy
final fantasy chronicles: echoes of time
dead rising
rock band/guitar hero/etc

for starters. There's a whole ton of games that came out this year, but they get shoved deep underneath the mountain of crap that's shilled out constantly.

Sep 26, 2009#30

AshburnerX

Dead Rising - A lower res version of the game without half as many enemies, half as many weapons, and all of the photography elements removed? Are you honestly going to try and pass that off a HIT? Everyone knew this was a stinker coming out of the gate; No one bought it.

The Conduit bombed too, as it failed to deliver on it's promises of being a unique FPS that took full advantage of the Wii's capabilities.

Sep 26, 2009#31

Shegokigo

Who care what released this year? Wii still has more interesting games overall than PS3. (Though I'm not counting games on PC that are on PS3 too, as PC > PS3 versions)

Sep 27, 2009#32

Olorin

Adammon said:
Quick, name the top 5 games for Wii released in 2009.

Sep 27, 2009#33

JCM

Olorin;263465][quote=Adammon said:
Quick, name the top 5 games for Wii released in 2009.

Little King's Story
Wii Sports Resort
PunchOut!!
ExciteBots
Boom Blox Bash Party

Only 5 ? Let's keep going shall we

Muramasa the Demon Blade
The Beatles Rock Band
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Madworld
Rune Factory: Frontier
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10
Dead Space Extraction
Dawn of Discovery
House of the Dead Overkill
Klonoa
New Play Control Pikmin 1 & 2
There's more if you're into certain genres, and I haven't even mentioned WiiWare and VC games...[/quote]You forgot

Trace Memory R
Spectrobes
Anno Create a New World
Tenchu: Shadow Assassins
Trauma center New Blood

Sure, the Wii is short on american rpgs and space marine shooters, but fuck that, its the very reason why I bought it.... funny how this same forum (back in the image days) praised Perfect Dark 0 for being old-school, and now the Conduit is a "failure", how times change.

Guess we should have more Wii and DS "brown marine games".

But honestly... I want a fucking RPG that's not on the Virtual Console.

Amen.

Though FFIV after years was okay

Sep 27, 2009#34

Ross

What about older titles that you can maybe get on the cheap now...

Mario?!?
Mario Kart?!?
Legend of Zelda?!?

Just to name a few bigger ones.

Sep 27, 2009#35

AshburnerX

JCM said:
Sure, the Wii is short on american rpgs and space marine shooters, but fuck that, its the very reason why I bought it.... funny how this same forum (back in the image days) praised Perfect Dark 0 for being old-school, and now the Conduit is a "failure", how times change.

Guess we should have more Wii and DS "brown marine games".

The Conduit was a failure because they said they were trying to be different with it... but instead gave us more of the same. Think of it this way: If I promised to bring cake to your birthday and instead brought Brownies, you'd probably be a little upset. It's not that the brownies are bad, it's that what I brought isn't what I promised. Perfect Dark Zero promised more old school fun and delivered, so no one was upset.

Sep 27, 2009#36

figmentPez

Metacritic doesn't have any reviews for "A Boy and his Blob" yet, but the previews I've read in Kotaku and Joystiq and the review in Nintendo Power (they gave it an 8.5) make it seem pretty damn good. Not only are the graphics beautiful, but every time I've heard someone talk about playing it, they've said it handles well and is very challenging.

Sep 28, 2009#37

JCM

AshburnerX;263528][quote=JCM said:
Sure, the Wii is short on american rpgs and space marine shooters, but fuck that, its the very reason why I bought it.... funny how this same forum (back in the image days) praised Perfect Dark 0 for being old-school, and now the Conduit is a "failure", how times change.

Guess we should have more Wii and DS "brown marine games".

What about older titles that you can maybe get on the cheap now...

Mario?!?
Mario Kart?!?
Legend of Zelda?!?

Just to name a few bigger ones.

And also ports of good games ala Okami and Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition.

Now all it needs is quality jap RPGs and more adventure games ala the DS.

Sep 28, 2009#38

AshburnerX

JCM said:
And also ports of good games ala Okami and Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition.

Now all it needs is quality jap RPGs and more adventure games ala the DS.

Sep 28, 2009#39

strawman

JCM said:
1.Sell an overpriced popular console that runs laps around "hardcore" consoles in sales.

2.Wait for competition to lower their prices (X360 had a price drop, now theres the PS3 slim).

3.Lower your console price, get market ready for release of new console.

It's coming. Remember that it's been out for 3 years as of two weeks ago. It's not an 'old' console by any means, but Nintendo makes money by selling consoles, and consequently games.

The Wii has a few years of life left, but they've refreshed all their other lines - the Wii is next.

-Adam

Sep 28, 2009#40

JCM

AshburnerX;264111][quote=JCM said:
And also ports of good games ala Okami and Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition.

Now all it needs is quality jap RPGs and more adventure games ala the DS.

Grr... kinda, in the case of Okami at least. The devs of the Wii version cut out the beautifully animated credits of the PS2 version because they didn't want to give credit to the original team from Clover, since it had been dissolved. That always left a sour taste in my mouth. RE4 Wii Edition is pretty good though!

And change the from "quality Jap RPGS" to "Quality ANYWHERE RPGs". Has there even been one RPG release for the console yet? I don't want it turn into a Gamecube and have only ONE quality RPG during it's entire lifespan. (In case your wondering, it was Skies of Arcadia Legends on the GC... which is just an improved version of the Dreamcast game with more stuff.)[/QUOTE]Hey, Tales of Eternia, Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and Baten Kaitos 2 Origins were good!

But then the only other rpgs we had on the GC were Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, Paper Mario, Crystal Chronicles and a few shitty third party multiconsole ones like LOTR, Xemn legends 2 and Gladius.

Now checking on the Wii, it seems there are some (these were all reviewed by IGN), but not many good ones at all other than Rune Factory and Tales of Symphonia, and some are old games/Wiiware

Phantasy Star
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Rune Factory: Frontier
Phantasy Star IV
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Dokapon Kingdom
Shining Force II
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Baroque
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Opoona
Phantasy Star II
Light Crusader
Code Lyoko: Quest for Infinity
Shining in the Darkness
Breath of Fire II
Paper Mario RPG
Sword of Vermilion
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Neutopia II
Landstalker: The Treasures of King Nole
Alien Syndrome
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance

In comparison, the DS gets like 10 rpgs a month.

Sep 28, 2009#41

AshburnerX

Crystal Chronicles was great, but marred by the fact you needed 3 friends, 4 GBA-GC connectors, and 4 GBA SPs to play it right.

Paper Mario was fine... totally forgot about that one.

Gladius wasn't bad ether, but I didn't include that for the same reason I didn't include Fire Emblem: It's mainly a strategy game. It was better on the PS2 though.

Didn't play the rest... we never got them at our video store.

Sep 28, 2009#42

strawman

JCM said:
In comparison, the DS gets like 10 rpgs a month.

Sep 28, 2009#43

AshburnerX

stienman;264503][quote=JCM said:
In comparison, the DS gets like 10 rpgs a month.

There's probably a bigger market for the DS (more machines because it's cheaper, and people play more hours per month because it's portable) than for the Wii.

Developers will always go for the larger market when given the chance.

-Adam[/QUOTE]

It's not just about a larger market: Development costs for the DS are much lower because you have much simpler architecture and lower specs to meet. You don't need to spend millions of dollars trying to push the limits of your hardware if your on a hand held ether, because the expectation is different.

Sep 29, 2009#44

JCM

stienman;264503][quote=JCM said:
In comparison, the DS gets like 10 rpgs a month.

Sep 29, 2009#45

strawman

JCM;264748][quote=stienman;264503][quote=JCM said:
In comparison, the DS gets like 10 rpgs a month.

There's probably a bigger market for the DS (more machines because it's cheaper, and people play more hours per month because it's portable) than for the Wii.

Developers will always go for the larger market when given the chance.

-Adam[/quote]Its also due to the fact that there are 10X more games out for the DS than any system, you can find anything from Korg synthesizers and New York Times crosswords, language coaching programs and wine guides, to GTA and DragonQuest.

Believe me, the price thing is just a small factor, because it has outsold the GBA, GB, and every handheld in less 2 years.

Now if we factor the Iphone/iPod touch, then we might actually have some competition.[/QUOTE]

Just today people are reporting on Apple's push into advertising the iPhone as a gaming platform to gamers and game developers.

Imagine if the DSi had a cellular connection (no fees, like the kindle) that one could then insta-download games, and developers could upload games to a DSi 'app store' rather than producing cartridges.

I suppose the WiFi does this to some extent.

Right now the form factor of the DSi is more conducive to gaming than the touch, and it's a lot cheaper, but I think Nintendo will have to be nimble and move to avoid becoming sega to Apple in the next decade.

-Adam

Sep 29, 2009#46

Olorin

stienman said:
Imagine if the DSi had a cellular connection (no fees, like the kindle) that one could then insta-download games, and developers could upload games to a DSi 'app store' rather than producing cartridges.

Like DSiWare?

Sep 29, 2009#47

Drachenherz

Olorin;264984][quote=stienman said:
Imagine if the DSi had a cellular connection (no fees, like the kindle) that one could then insta-download games, and developers could upload games to a DSi 'app store' rather than producing cartridges.

Like DSiWare?[/QUOTE]

Zing!!!

Sep 29, 2009#48

figmentPez

Olorin said:
Like DSiWare?

DSiWare isn't like the app store much at all, from what I've read. As much as Nintendo has said they want DSi programs to do everything, just like "there's an app for that", it's yet to materalize. It's a lot harder for developers to get into DSiWare than it is to get onto the iPhone. Not to mention that pricing is much higher per game on DSi than it is on the iPhone.

Sep 29, 2009#49

Olorin

Well, DSiWare is still fairly new, but I've heard that it already has some real gems. And one of them is free (Flipnote Studio)
I don't have a DSi or an iPhone though...

Sep 29, 2009#50

edzepp

I'm throwing in a few recommendations of my own:

Bit Trip Beat

Bit Trip Core

Get these retro-styled rhythm games on Wiiware and you'll never need to buy another game again. (you'll be too busy being obsessed with your high scores to care) The third one, Bit Trip Void, is coming out later this year.

Oh, and De Blob.

Forums