WoW: New Race Leak

[Pojodan]

I think this thread serves as an ideal indicator of what Halforum's community is like.

 

[Chazwozel]

I just came in to put some butthurt into ScytheRexx's Blizzard humping when he was arguing against Shannow's accurate assessment, that just because some data miners found a bit of crap in WoW doesn't automatically deduce that it's evidence for new player races.

Thing is though, you're wrong. It is, he's right.

I've got to admit. I was doubtful at first until he went down the line of events. What made me more of a believer was that he pointed out the female worgen model. If it was just a new male model, fine, but with the addition of the female skin, it's a bit more believeable that maybe, just maybe, it could be a player race.

Also that MMO-Champion and a few other major sites have nothing on it. They're not ones to let something like this slide. They always cover the new skins found in a patch and go into theory about them. Since they have nothing about this, it means either a) they're slow (not likely) or b) they've been told to pull it (which would only happen if it was leaking true information / theory).

As much as I may like/not like WoW because I don't play it anymore. I couldn't really argue against that at the moment.

Yeah, I was starting to believe him too actually. I'd love to hold a conversation with ScytheRexx without his smugness making me want to punch him in the nose (which is generally why I get a kick out of WoW bashing :finger: ).

 

[SeraRelm]

Wait... It's gotta be true because there's nothing on it?




:aaahhh:

 

[Shakey]

Just because you're bored doesn't mean you need to poop on every WoW thread that pops up.

Well other than the direct attacks I think it's been pretty productive little conversation. :uhhuh:

Except that he starts the same damn argument every time. It just gets old.

Then... don't... read... the ....thread...

This thread was about possible new races in WoW until you shat all over it. You do it to every WoW thread.

Don't... post... in... WoW... theads... if... you... don't... like... the... game...

 

[Chibibar]

Gaming, as a whole, is definitely a sport. It takes skill to do a lot of the things that happen at it's upper echelons... but it will never be a sport in the way that Baseball or Soccer is because the form in which you practice the sport changes ever 2-3 years. When a new version of a fighting game or strategy game is being released every few years and everyone playing it has to relearn how to, it's hard to get the kind of following you'd need to make a "World Series" happen.

well.... there is International competition for games.

Why the game itself changes (type of shooters and such) the basic still the same. I mean FPS is FPS but the CONTEXT (if that is the right word) changes like terrain, weapons, and such, but the basic gameplay using mouse and WADS key remain the same (even switching weapons and such) you just have to learn the terrain.

It is kinda like a virtual military enactment with a touch of Sci-Fi stuff. I mean even the military made a game "American Army 3" made by the U.S. Army and a recruiting tool.

I think video game tournaments are pretty cool. When a new game comes out, it level the playing field. Everyone need to start fresh and learn the new game but still retain their instinct.

Unlike other games where the field remains the same (well... maybe not golf. you can change the field) but Football you will ALWAYS have 100 yard and 2 field goal, hockey you will always have ice and 2 goals with nets (unless you playing street hockey) the basic playing is the same. To make changes to "level the field" would be
football that is 100 yard with rabid dog chasing you and the other teams has weapons. or Hockey with rocket lanchers playing on jello-o

 

[Chazwozel]

Well other than the direct attacks I think it's been pretty productive little conversation. :uhhuh:

Except that he starts the same damn argument every time. It just gets old.

Then... don't... read... the ....thread...

This thread was about possible new races in WoW until you shat all over it. You do it to every WoW thread.

Don't... post... in... WoW... theads... if... you... don't... like... the... game...

Actually Shego started it...

It was actually pretty civil up to a point until some of you addicts started getting all pimple assed over my comments to her about the game.

 

[Shakey]

:smug:

:eyeroll:

It's cute that you think WoW knowledge is relevant to anything.

You started it.

 

[Piotyr]

Chaz is trying to be to WoW what GB is to politics and failing miserably.

No, I don't mind WoW nearly much as the addicts that defend it to their dying breath.

Or even the addicts that just can't stay out of threads and proceed to attack it to their dying breath?

No, I attack the poster not the topic. The best way to shut me up is for you to shut the smurf up first.

So, you'll stop shitting on threads as long as you have the last say on it? That's some interesting logic.

 

Actually Shego started it...

Ah yes, the Toddler Defense. Always a good way to cement the maturity of your argument.

Chaz, you're being an asshole and you know it and you're proud of it and anything you say to deny that is bullshit. Why you can't just let people have their fun is beyond me.

 

[Chazwozel]

No, I don't mind WoW nearly much as the addicts that defend it to their dying breath.

Or even the addicts that just can't stay out of threads and proceed to attack it to their dying breath?

No, I attack the poster not the topic. The best way to shut me up is for you to shut the smurf up first.

So, you'll stop shitting on threads as long as you have the last say on it? That's some interesting logic.

NO YOU!

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:49 pm --

Actually Shego started it...

Ah yes, the Toddler Defense. Always a good way to cement the maturity of your argument.

Chaz, you're being an * and you know it and you're proud of it and anything you say to deny that is bullshit. Why you can't just let people have their fun is beyond me.

NO YOU!

 

[sixpackshaker]

I have yet to meet a WoW fan who isn't a.) an idiot b.) a * c.) a whiny little * d.) a kid

Which am I?

I guess that makes me a...*?

It's ok, so was I when I played.

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:30 pm --

I have yet to meet a WoW fan who isn't a.) an idiot b.) a * c.) a whiny little * d.) a kid

Which am I?

Me too.

See a.)

WoW has nothing to do with you being a Dick or an Idiot, when you stopped playing you were not miraculously cured.

 

[Cajungal]

*passes out cookies and apple juice*

 

[elph]

Wait... It's gotta be true because there's nothing on it?




:aaahhh:

It's not that there's nothing on it. It's that what has been brought up has been pulled. For example, someone found the textures for the robot mini-pets before the Mt Dew promo started. It was then theorized that this was dealing with Mt Dew (blah blah blah) but the stuff was left on the site. It happens a lot, new mounts, new pets, etc... All kinds of little things that are in the current line up to be used are datamined and talked about to exhaustion. However, they are never pulled unless Blizzard requests it to be done (again, something that has happened with BC & even LK content).

So when I go to a site that is well known for datamining a patch or whatever to discuss this kind of thing, and there's nothing there. It's either they haven't gotten to it yet [not likely] or they have been ordered to pull it because it's dealing with an upcoming announcement that they plan to make (maybe Blizzcon).

News as big as "new race" is going to cause Blizzard to act fast to shut it up if it's true. If it's not, they'd just simply respond with something along the lines of "No, that's not a new race, we've got something up our sleeve, but we can't tell you what just yet. Expect something soon (tm)"

There is currently this thread on the warcraft site (12 pages). I'm curious if it will be deleted eventually, or if Blue will respond to it.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 5021&sid=1

 

[Chazwozel]

Which am I?

I guess that makes me a...*?

It's ok, so was I when I played.

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:30 pm --

Which am I?

Me too.

See a.)

WoW has nothing to do with you being a * or an Idiot, when you stopped playing you were not miraculously cured.

No, WoW is so fucking easy and simple that it frustrated the fuck out of me playing with idiots that can't understand how to point and click on targets. Therefore I was a dickhead on WoW towards them, similar to how I'm an asshole in certain topics. I have a low tolerance for it.

 

[ScytheRexx]

I just came in to put some butthurt into ScytheRexx's Blizzard humping

Ah, so instead of actually debating evidence, you decided to make it personal. Got it. I am sure I don't have to point out which of us is the one getting butthurt. :heythere:

So, now that Chaz has removed his relevance, the grapevine is now saying that, due to the traits, the races on the right might actually be feline rather the wolfish. Do you guys see it? I personally don't, and Blizzard said new races, if these ARE new races, would be pre-seeded into the game this time around. Thus why races like Pandaren are almost impossible at this point.

Also, all the posts involving the images have started appearing again, WoW.com just got it, and MMO-Champion brought back the thread about it. Maybe, just maybe, Blizzard gave them the clear. Whether this means they just don't care now with BlizzCon so close, or that they are truly not relevant to new races, will remain to be seen.

Yeah, I was starting to believe him too actually. I'd love to hold a conversation with ScytheRexx without his smugness making me want to punch him in the nose (which is generally why I get a kick out of WoW bashing :finger: ).

I am more then happy to have a real conversation with you, but you like to degenerate WoW topics into needless insult spam, then act like you are doing people a favor when all you do is make yourself look silly. Shannow made a good point, but I countered it with precedent. I don't like posting without that, and my experience with WoW have lead me to much of my evidence. The lack of females for the vast majority of non-playable races is one of those reasons, they very rarely will put in the effort for females unless they are doing it for a much greater purpose, the precedent of masks being only playable characters, the lack of Goblin "involvement" in the Hallow's End as a whole, etc...

 

[Calleja]

*passes out cookies and apple juice*

I'll do you one better, CG:


This thread needs more...

BRUCE!!!

 

[Chazwozel]

I just came in to put some butthurt into ScytheRexx's Blizzard humping

Ah, so instead of actually debating evidence, you decided to make it personal. Got it. I am sure I don't have to point out which of us is the one getting butthurt. :heythere:

So, now that Chaz has removed his relevance, the grapevine is now saying that, due to the traits, the races on the right might actually be feline rather the wolfish. Do you guys see it? I personally don't, and Blizzard said new races, if these ARE new races, would be pre-seeded into the game this time around. Thus why races like Pandaren are almost impossible at this point.

Also, all the posts involving the images have started appearing again, WoW.com just got it, and MMO-Champion brought back the thread about it. Maybe, just maybe, Blizzard gave them the clear. Whether this means they just don't care now with BlizzCon so close, or that they are truly not relevant to new races, will remain to be seen.

Yeah, I was starting to believe him too actually. I'd love to hold a conversation with ScytheRexx without his smugness making me want to punch him in the nose (which is generally why I get a kick out of WoW bashing :finger: ).

I am more then happy to have a real conversation with you, but you like to degenerate WoW topics into needless insult spam, then act like you are doing people a favor when all you do is make yourself look silly. Shannow made a good point, but I countered it with precedent. I don't like posting without that, and my experience with WoW have lead me to much of my evidence. The lack of females for the vast majority of non-playable races is one of those reasons, they very rarely will put in the effort for females unless they are doing it for a much greater purpose, the precedent of masks being only playable characters, the lack of Goblin "involvement" in the Hallow's End as a whole, etc...

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your ass.

 

I still say that if anyone here would know about upcoming and previously unreleased information it would be ScytheRexx.

I bow to your knowledge, sir!

 

[sixpackshaker]

No, WoW is so smurfing easy and simple that it frustrated the smurf out of me playing with idiots that can't understand how to point and click on targets. Therefore I was a * on WoW towards them, similar to how I'm an * in certain topics. I have a low tolerance for it.

That is the way to approach the conversation. You met people that you played with that are idiots. They are in all walks of life. The broad brush strokes to insult gamers and all WoW players is just asinine.

If you ever feel the siren's call to play WoW again, PM me and I'll find you a group of people that you should fit in with. I've only played in guilds where they take members that are 25 and up, the game is a blast when you can talk about other topics than the game and get good responses.

 

[Shakey]

I just came in to put some butthurt into ScytheRexx's Blizzard humping

Ah, so instead of actually debating evidence, you decided to make it personal. Got it. I am sure I don't have to point out which of us is the one getting butthurt. :heythere:

So, now that Chaz has removed his relevance, the grapevine is now saying that, due to the traits, the races on the right might actually be feline rather the wolfish. Do you guys see it? I personally don't, and Blizzard said new races, if these ARE new races, would be pre-seeded into the game this time around. Thus why races like Pandaren are almost impossible at this point.

Also, all the posts involving the images have started appearing again, WoW.com just got it, and MMO-Champion brought back the thread about it. Maybe, just maybe, Blizzard gave them the clear. Whether this means they just don't care now with BlizzCon so close, or that they are truly not relevant to new races, will remain to be seen.

Yeah, I was starting to believe him too actually. I'd love to hold a conversation with ScytheRexx without his smugness making me want to punch him in the nose (which is generally why I get a kick out of WoW bashing :finger: ).

I am more then happy to have a real conversation with you, but you like to degenerate WoW topics into needless insult spam, then act like you are doing people a favor when all you do is make yourself look silly. Shannow made a good point, but I countered it with precedent. I don't like posting without that, and my experience with WoW have lead me to much of my evidence. The lack of females for the vast majority of non-playable races is one of those reasons, they very rarely will put in the effort for females unless they are doing it for a much greater purpose, the precedent of masks being only playable characters, the lack of Goblin "involvement" in the Hallow's End as a whole, etc...

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your ass.

There's that smugness again. Admit it, your an ass.

 

[Vrii]

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your ass.

That or it was a major source of contention on the wow forums recently, with the blues not really giving a reason why that specific pet drew a much quicker, and more thorough response from them than any of the other pet bugs.

And I'm not sure where you're reading smugness from the fact that he actually has reasoning and precedent to his arguments instead of just slinging shit around.

 

[Chazwozel]

I just came in to put some butthurt into ScytheRexx's Blizzard humping

Ah, so instead of actually debating evidence, you decided to make it personal. Got it. I am sure I don't have to point out which of us is the one getting butthurt. :heythere:

So, now that Chaz has removed his relevance, the grapevine is now saying that, due to the traits, the races on the right might actually be feline rather the wolfish. Do you guys see it? I personally don't, and Blizzard said new races, if these ARE new races, would be pre-seeded into the game this time around. Thus why races like Pandaren are almost impossible at this point.

Also, all the posts involving the images have started appearing again, WoW.com just got it, and MMO-Champion brought back the thread about it. Maybe, just maybe, Blizzard gave them the clear. Whether this means they just don't care now with BlizzCon so close, or that they are truly not relevant to new races, will remain to be seen.

Yeah, I was starting to believe him too actually. I'd love to hold a conversation with ScytheRexx without his smugness making me want to punch him in the nose (which is generally why I get a kick out of WoW bashing :finger: ).

I am more then happy to have a real conversation with you, but you like to degenerate WoW topics into needless insult spam, then act like you are doing people a favor when all you do is make yourself look silly. Shannow made a good point, but I countered it with precedent. I don't like posting without that, and my experience with WoW have lead me to much of my evidence. The lack of females for the vast majority of non-playable races is one of those reasons, they very rarely will put in the effort for females unless they are doing it for a much greater purpose, the precedent of masks being only playable characters, the lack of Goblin "involvement" in the Hallow's End as a whole, etc...

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your a**.

There's that smugness again. Admit it, your an a**.

And people wonder why I keep at it? Yes, Shaky I'm an asshole!

 

[Calleja]

Fine, I'll pull out the big guns to make everyone here chillax.

This thread needs more...


SCARLETT!!

 

[Chibibar]

No, WoW is so smurfing easy and simple that it frustrated the smurf out of me playing with idiots that can't understand how to point and click on targets. Therefore I was a * on WoW towards them, similar to how I'm an * in certain topics. I have a low tolerance for it.

That is the way to approach the conversation. You met people that you played with that are idiots. They are in all walks of life. The broad brush strokes to insult gamers and all WoW players is just asinine.

If you ever feel the siren's call to play WoW again, PM me and I'll find you a group of people that you should fit in with. I've only played in guilds where they take members that are 25 and up, the game is a blast when you can talk about other topics than the game and get good responses.

Heh... I have to agree on this. I think Chaz just play with the wrong crowd.

It is like me saying all sports fans are a-hole cause I met a few in Sports Bar that are a-hole, but I don't do that. (at least I don't think I did in this thread) but what example I did show is the mentality of it.

As for for point and click, I can say the same for many new users to computers. some don't even know the f1 help command, save as, click a link or right click to open new windows, but I don't hold that against the general population.

 

[Chazwozel]

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your a**.

That or it was a major source of contention on the wow forums recently, with the blues not really giving a reason why that specific pet drew a much quicker, and more thorough response from them than any of the other pet bugs.

And I'm not sure where you're reading smugness from the fact that he actually has reasoning and precedent to his arguments instead of just slinging poop around.

Well if it was discussed on the WoW forums...

Brilliant!

 

[Shegokigo]

Couple of things:

Worgen is a confirmed new race in the future, though it wasn't scheduled till the next xpac after the coming one "Cataclysm". This is VERIFIED information based on leaked and confirmed details.

Next, anyone saying "it's not real cause the models are weird/wrong/incomplete" had obviously not watched the evolution of the draenei and bloodelves through their developtment.

As for Chaz calling WoW easy? Maybe when he played, but try and do half the hard-mode raids now and say it's easy, I'd love to see that.

 

[Chazwozel]

No, WoW is so smurfing easy and simple that it frustrated the smurf out of me playing with idiots that can't understand how to point and click on targets. Therefore I was a * on WoW towards them, similar to how I'm an * in certain topics. I have a low tolerance for it.

That is the way to approach the conversation. You met people that you played with that are idiots. They are in all walks of life. The broad brush strokes to insult gamers and all WoW players is just asinine.

If you ever feel the siren's call to play WoW again, PM me and I'll find you a group of people that you should fit in with. I've only played in guilds where they take members that are 25 and up, the game is a blast when you can talk about other topics than the game and get good responses.

Heh... I have to agree on this. I think Chaz just play with the wrong crowd.

It is like me saying all sports fans are a-hole cause I met a few in Sports Bar that are a-hole, but I don't do that. (at least I don't think I did in this thread) but what example I did show is the mentality of it.

As for for point and click, I can say the same for many new users to computers. some don't even know the f1 help command, save as, click a link or right click to open new windows, but I don't hold that against the general population.

NO NO NO, stop trying to psychoanalyze my WoW experiences to why I hate the game. I hate the game because it's a horribly boring, a waste of life, and it caters to dimwits.

 

[sixpackshaker]

And yet you played it long enough to start raiding.

 

[Vrii]

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your a**.

That or it was a major source of contention on the wow forums recently, with the blues not really giving a reason why that specific pet drew a much quicker, and more thorough response from them than any of the other pet bugs.

And I'm not sure where you're reading smugness from the fact that he actually has reasoning and precedent to his arguments instead of just slinging poop around.

Well if it was discussed on the WoW forums...

Brilliant!

And my point was that it wasn't pulled out of his ass. But then, you're far more interested in taking your shots than reading what people are writing anyway.

Carry on.

 

[Chazwozel]

Couple of things:

Worgen is a confirmed new race in the future, though it wasn't scheduled till the next xpac after the coming one "Cataclysm". This is VERIFIED information based on leaked and confirmed details.

Next, anyone saying "it's not real cause the models are weird/wrong/incomplete" had obviously not watched the evolution of the draenei and bloodelves through their developtment.

As for Chaz calling WoW easy? Maybe when he played, but try and do half the hard-mode raids now and say it's easy, I'd love to see that.

Step 1.) go to MMO champ or any other MMO resource site.

Step 2.) read the strat

Step 3.) group with a guild that knows what it's doing and people actually listen.

Step 4.) profit.

Yes, I know theres a learning curve to raids. Once that curve is reached they're easy as pie. The reason why raids are so hard is because it's hard to get 25 A.D.D. ridden people together who will endure wipe after wipe of the learning process.

The only hard part about WoW is finding enough time out of your life to waste for digital clothes. That's the big secret to being successful in WoW, having a crap ton of time to waste.

 

[Calleja]

That's the big secret to being successful in WoW, having a crap ton of time to waste.

Having a lot of time to dedicate to something is the big secret to being successful at EVERYTHING.

 

[Chazwozel]

There's that smugness again. Admit it, the whole worgen pet hunter thing was all pulled out of your a**.

That or it was a major source of contention on the wow forums recently, with the blues not really giving a reason why that specific pet drew a much quicker, and more thorough response from them than any of the other pet bugs.

And I'm not sure where you're reading smugness from the fact that he actually has reasoning and precedent to his arguments instead of just slinging poop around.

Well if it was discussed on the WoW forums...

Brilliant!

And my point was that it wasn't pulled out of his a**. But then, you're far more interested in taking your shots than reading what people are writing anyway.

Carry on.

My argument was that because Worgen are humanoids the bug was fixed quicker than for ghost wolves or slime (since they're not humanoid). There's no reason to think it was because Worgen are the next race.

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:16 pm --

That's the big secret to being successful in WoW, having a crap ton of time to waste.

Having a lot of time to dedicate to something is the big secret to being successful at EVERYTHING.

Not really...

 

That's the big secret to being successful in WoW, having a crap ton of time to waste.

Having a lot of time to dedicate to something is the big secret to being successful at EVERYTHING.

Then why am I no better at posting?

 

[Calleja]

Give ten thousand monkeys with ten thousand typewriters enough time.....

 

[Chazwozel]

That's the big secret to being successful in WoW, having a crap ton of time to waste.

Having a lot of time to dedicate to something is the big secret to being successful at EVERYTHING.

Then why am I no better at posting?