[TV] S.H.I.E.L.D.

BananaHands

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I was kind of avoiding this thread since the show aired because I figured it'd get all this naysaying.

You naysayers.

The show is fun. It's a bit cheesy but it also shares the same universe as a guy who turns green when he stubs his toe. We also have a show where you can see the origin of an obscure character like Gravitron.

C'mon, guys.
 
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BananaHands

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Also if you didn't like the last episode/post-credits thing then we can just not be "top 8" friends on myspace and you can deal with it.
 
I think that they're taking a little slower approach to this than you guys are wanting. You've got the workings now of a "team hero" in Skye, and the first "big bad" of the series, I think they're purposely taking it a little slower than Heroes did, to keep it from having to go full-blown comic book soap opera in season two.

I have gone into this wanting to see how they translated this into a larger universe to work from in the future. We (all of us here) are the exception to what they're working from on a knowledge base of the world they are building.
 
I am still pretty sure this is mostly just build up. I think it will hit it's stride later, I just hope they keep enough viewers to make it worth it.

Also, and maybe it's just me, but I wanted a bit more of a cohesive narrative between each episode with a constant antagonist. Right now, other then the whole stuff with Skye, each episode feels pretty self-contained. That is fine for certain shows like L&O or NCIS, but I feel like AoS needs to really focus more on each episode leading into the next, with more cliffhangers and characters getting pulled into that long range story. This is why I feel we need to settle on a villain group soon, since the conflict between the two forces will better help tie the stories together rather then just having them seemingly globetrotting from place to place randomly.
 
I am still pretty sure this is mostly just build up. I think it will hit it's stride later, I just hope they keep enough viewers to make it worth it.

Also, and maybe it's just me, but I wanted a bit more of a cohesive narrative between each episode with a constant antagonist. Right now, other then the whole stuff with Skye, each episode feels pretty self-contained. That is fine for certain shows like L&O or NCIS, but I feel like AoS needs to really focus more on each episode leading into the next, with more cliffhangers and characters getting pulled into that long range story. This is why I feel we need to settle on a villain group soon, since the conflict between the two forces will better help tie the stories together rather then just having them seemingly globetrotting from place to place randomly.
I think that there have been good examples of a shadowy group opposing SHEILD with the centipede project and the controller who is also being controlled. Now we just need a distinct operative or controller and a name to really get started on the myth arc of AOS.
 
I would love to see Absorbing Man.

Madame Hydra was also high on my list if they brought back Hydra, but then they had her in that new shitty Wolvarine movie as some snake mutant, which has dashed my hopes.

One thing they could do to tie in with the new Thor movie is bring in a smaller Thor villain. I would love to see Amora, but she is a bit out of the league of this team, so maybe have Skurge down on the ground running errands for her, and the agents having to stop him.
 
Saw it last night, and I think io9 hit it on the head - this one worked better because they moved away from trying to be a Marvel Universe/Joss Whedon joint and started becoming a show about spies dealing with similarly or better equipped spies. I love the Marvel stuff, and going from your comments they have a lot to draw from given the history of SHIELD (I'm not typing all the damned periods) in the comics, but I think they might do best being a spy show that occasionally has to deal with superhero/supervillian fallout.
 
Also, this was the first episode where the humor felt like it flowed. It wasn't bad before, but this week it felt a lot more natural.
 
Finally getting some plot movement.

Was a bit surprised they ended the whole thing with Skye and the Rising Tide so quickly. I know the Rising Tide still technically exists, but all that stuff Skye was saying on the phone ended up being her hacker boyfriend. Found that a bit anti-climactic, though now they can officially get her back onto the team without that "Will she betray them!?" hanging over the plot.

It also looks like this "Centipede" group is building itself nicely.

I am kind of wondering if they are having issues retaining some rights on characters though, "Scorch" is not even a b-list hero from the comics, then again that made it all the easier to have him killed off I guess.
 
Finally getting some plot movement.

It also looks like this "Centipede" group is building itself nicely.

I am kind of wondering if they are having issues retaining some rights on characters though, "Scorch" is not even a b-list hero from the comics, then again that made it all the easier to have him killed off I guess.
I think that the use of "Scorch" was more of a throw away to be able to kill him, they didn't want to bring a "real" character into the show just to kill him in an hour. I wouldn't want them to waste a character that way either. I think that some of the b-listers could be used to more realistic use in the show than they are in the comics.

I still think that they are building a pretty good world in the show. I think that they would lose too many, quickly, if they jumped full-bore into the Marvel Universe and all the stuff that is constantly running around in there. Would be fun for those of us that know it, but people, like my wife, that don't know all of it would drop it as quickly as they dropped Heroes.
 

BananaHands

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Goddamn.

The last ten minutes of this show...

Also, holy shit ABC. Didn't think I'd see a woman burn to death on you.
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It's adorable to see AIM's suits in their development stage.
 
One thing they could do to tie in with the new Thor movie is bring in a smaller Thor villain. I would love to see Amora, but she is a bit out of the league of this team, so maybe have Skurge down on the ground running errands for her, and the agents having to stop him.
Really, if they're setting up Graviton as a future adversary, very few of Marvel's villains would be above that league.

I liked the idea I'd read in a couple of places that would make centipede the work of High Evolutionary. I know it's a complete stretch, but I always liked that character.
 
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I thought this episode was pretty good, but I'm really excited for the episode two weeks from now. That's supposed to directly tie into Thor 2.
 
This show definitely keeps getting better. I think it just needed time to find a good formula to work with, and for the cast to start clicking.
 

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Huh, I expected to see this show torn apart in here. I can't get into it at all. If it weren't for Coulson, I would've been gone long ago. I keep hoping they'll do something to subvert the off the shelf characters.
 
Huh, I expected to see this show torn apart in here. I can't get into it at all. If it weren't for Coulson, I would've been gone long ago. I keep hoping they'll do something to subvert the off the shelf characters.
Join the club, dude. I gave up on the show after three episodes.
 
Join the club, dude. I gave up on the show after three episodes.
If you gave up after 3 episodes you might be missing out. Like I said, it's getting better. I'd say the first three were the worst so far.
Huh, I expected to see this show torn apart in here. I can't get into it at all. If it weren't for Coulson, I would've been gone long ago. I keep hoping they'll do something to subvert the off the shelf characters.
Coulson is probably my least favorite so far. He seems so awkward and ill fitting to his role. None of them stand out or are all that great, but it's becoming a fun show to watch.
 
My main problem is that there really isn't a main character. This most recent episode was the best so far though, for at least half the cast.
 
I really liked this last episode, which is good for the show because it was officially going to be my last episode as I hated all the previous ones.
 
Well, I thought last night's episode was great. A little more character development and it looks like Coulson's starting to realize his recovery experience just doesn't add up.

Like most American TV, however, they couldn't be bothered to use subtitles when dealing with foreign languages. Everybody just spoke heavily accented English instead.
 
Well, I thought last night's episode was great. A little more character development and it looks like Coulson's starting to realize his recovery experience just doesn't add up.

Like most American TV, however, they couldn't be bothered to use subtitles when dealing with foreign languages. Everybody just spoke heavily accented English instead.
Hey, if it's good enough for all of the asgardians to speak it...
 
I watched like the first thirty seconds of this new episode and turned it off.

Does it spoil Thor: The Dark World? Or in any diminish it? I'm planning on seeing the movie next week sometime and I'd like to give that priority over this, if there's gonna be a conflict.

Please advise, thanks!
 
I watched like the first thirty seconds of this new episode and turned it off.

Does it spoil Thor: The Dark World? Or in any diminish it? I'm planning on seeing the movie next week sometime and I'd like to give that priority over this, if there's gonna be a conflict.

Please advise, thanks!
It spoils that Thor came to earth.

That's about it. It doesn't reference anything about the new movie other than the fact that some mess was made. The rest of the episode has nothing to do with it (but does involve asgard)
 
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