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Zappit

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Mawile, Diglett, Skiddo, Hawlucha, Furfrou, and Furfrou.

Almost a decent team.

Just traded a Furfrou for a Larvesta. Much better.
 
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...I just got something called a pumpkaboo in a wonder trade, which immediately evolved and wanted to learn a billion moves. I'm not familiar with this gen at all yet but this thing is really cool. Happy Halloween?
 
...I just got something called a pumpkaboo in a wonder trade, which immediately evolved and wanted to learn a billion moves. I'm not familiar with this gen at all yet but this thing is really cool. Happy Halloween?
The neat thing about pumpkaboo is that they come in different sizes, and the size does effect their stats.

That said, yeah, Gourgeist is a perfectly decent pokemon. Ghost/Grass is an interesting type combination.
 

Zappit

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Well, Wondertrade and the GTS are dead now. Reports are coming in from all over that people are getting Mystery Eggs through wifi trades. Apparently, the 3DS has finally been hacked, and traded hacked Pokemon show up in the box as a Mystery Egg, a devastating error worse than Bad Eggs. These reproduce in the box, corrupting and overwriting everything in that box. There is no way to get rid of them. They cannot be released, and some are claiming that the overwrite issue spreads to all your PC boxes, wiping out the entire PC storage.

If you get that egg, DO NOT SAVE. It will ruin your game!

Edit - Shit, don't trade at all! The save before wonder trading actually locks the new Pokemon into your game - that includes Mystery Eggs!

Edit - Double shit! Restarting your game with a new file doesn't get rid of the Mystery Egg. Nintendo needs to patch this, or shit will hit the fan tremendously hard. As for the assholes who unleashed this shitstorm by hacking the game's programming, I hope you get one of the worst cases of hemorrhoids in recorded human history. You've potentially ruined one of the most fun, social games Nintendo has ever produced.
 
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Well, Wondertrade and the GTS are dead now. Reports are coming in from all over that people are getting Mystery Eggs through wifi trades. Apparently, the 3DS has finally been hacked, and traded hacked Pokemon show up in the box as a Mystery Egg, a devastating error worse than Bad Eggs. These reproduce in the box, corrupting and overwriting everything in that box. There is no way to get rid of them. They cannot be released, and some are claiming that the overwrite issue spreads to all your PC boxes, wiping out the entire PC storage.

If you get that egg, DO NOT SAVE. It will ruin your game!

Edit - shit, don't trade at all! The save before wonder trading actually locks the new Pokemon into your game - that includes Mystery Eggs!

This is why we can't have nice things
 

Zappit

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More confirmation on how this is happening.

Unfortunately it seems that the mystery eggs from wonder trading aren't glitches. :[

Two weeks in, and people have managed to hack the game. Basically, people can use Wonder Trade and their internet to induce specific wonder trades. This allows them to give themselves pokemon, or send out pokemon via wonder trade, some times resulting in a bad egg.
Edit. This might not be a hacking case. The first documented instance of this happened three weeks ago on release day. It may be some sort of error related to the Internet data exchange during Wonder Trades. This could be a glitch. The GTS does not appear to be affected by this. It is also extremely rare, with few cases reported. But there could be folks who just haven't reported it...
 
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Zappit

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Game Freak will probably patch this, too. I just hope it doesn't affect things like the Pokemon Bank come December.
 

Zappit

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Okay, I've been researching the heck out of this, and I've found out some more information.

It's not hackers. There were reports that people were trying to manipulate their Internet connections to effectively clone their Pokemon, and that MIGHT have been related. The most likely theory is that midway through a Wonder Trade, the other person lost their connection - happening in the briefest of instances - and that corrupted the data in between the data checkers that occur during a WT. This explains why the GTS has been unaffected. The data is put online and traded in the GTS servers before being returned to the player's game. These mystery eggs reports total barely a handful, out of over 4 million games sold.

Wonder Trade is basically 99.9999999% safe, though. Smogon seems largely unconcerned.
 
Okay, I've been researching the heck out of this, and I've found out some more information.

It's not hackers. There were reports that people were trying to manipulate their Internet connections to effectively clone their Pokemon, and that MIGHT have been related. The most likely theory is that midway through a Wonder Trade, the other person lost their connection - happening in the briefest of instances - and that corrupted the data in between the data checkers that occur during a WT. This explains why the GTS has been unaffected. The data is put online and traded in the GTS servers before being returned to the player's game. These mystery eggs reports total barely a handful, out of over 4 million games sold.

Wonder Trade is basically 99.9999999% safe, though. Smogon seems largely unconcerned.
If they have the digital version and wished to clone their pokemon, couldn't they just copy their SD Card?
 

Zappit

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The game save has an ID tag that gets linked to the 3DS, which prevents cloning by that method. Game Freak really covered their bases in combatting hacking this go around.
 
The game save has an ID tag that gets linked to the 3DS, which prevents cloning by that method. Game Freak really covered their bases in combatting hacking this go around.
Does that mean multiple save files using multiple sd cards also wouldn't work, if I ever wanted to replay (and redownload) without wiping my current game?
 

Zappit

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Does that mean multiple save files using multiple sd cards also wouldn't work, if I ever wanted to replay (and redownload) without wiping my current game?
Yep. One game, one save file.

Edit - Just finished my first breeding project, a five perfect IV Adamant Mawile with Intimidate. The mega form, after a single Swords Dance, can knock out most competitive Pokemon in one shot.
 
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Like I've said earlier, I don't have the game yet, but I was looking at some of the stats for Mega Evolution Pokemon on Bulbapedia, and... wow... are these guys as overpowered as I think they are?

Mewtwo's mega evolution, for example, can have base attacking stats of 190 or higher. Contrast that to the previous record holder, Deoxys-A, who has attacking stats of 180 and tissue paper defenses to compensate for it.

So... are Mega Evolutions basically an "I win" button?

EDIT: Holy crap I just realized Mega Gengar gets base 170 special attack (equal to Kyurem-White, from Generation 5), as well as the Shadow Tag ability. That's even scarier.
 
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Like I've said earlier, I don't have the game yet, but I was looking at some of the stats for Mega Evolution Pokemon on Bulbapedia, and... wow... are these guys as overpowered as I think they are?

Mewtwo's mega evolution, for example, can have base attacking stats of 190 or higher. Contrast that to the previous record holder, Deoxys-A, who has attacking stats of 180 and tissue paper defenses to compensate for it.

So... are Mega Evolutions basically an "I win" button?

EDIT: Holy crap I just realized Mega Gengar gets base 170 special attack (equal to Kyurem-White, from Generation 5), as well as the Shadow Tag ability. That's even scarier.
I have a mega-gengar on my team. It's pretty nice, but you do have to watch out for earthquake, as gaining shadow tag (which is awesome) means you lose levitate.

Mega evolutions aren't an I-win button. You have to transform into the mega evolution (though it does have priority) and you also have to be holding the appropriate mega-stone, meaning you can't use an item on a pokemon you want to mega-evolve. You can also only mega evolve once in a battle, so you can't run two mega-evolutions together.

Because the mega-evolution is an activation, you can switch out before it takes place. If you see a gengar switch in, and you think it's going to mega-evolve and lock you in with shadow tag, then switch out to something that can handle it before it transforms.
 
I have a mega-gengar on my team. It's pretty nice, but you do have to watch out for earthquake, as gaining shadow tag (which is awesome) means you lose levitate.

Mega evolutions aren't an I-win button. You have to transform into the mega evolution (though it does have priority) and you also have to be holding the appropriate mega-stone, meaning you can't use an item on a pokemon you want to mega-evolve. You can also only mega evolve once in a battle, so you can't run two mega-evolutions together.

Because the mega-evolution is an activation, you can switch out before it takes place. If you see a gengar switch in, and you think it's going to mega-evolve and lock you in with shadow tag, then switch out to something that can handle it before it transforms.
Good to know they're not unbeatable, but still... some of these guys are well scary.

Mega Heracross gets base 185 attack as well as Skill Link, and the moves Pin Missile and Bullet Seed. Couple it with a fighting type move, and this guy is basically unwallable. Mega Mawile has Huge Power, plus a base 105 attack stat. Mega Garchomp gets Sand Force, and base 170 attack, so he's even scarier when partnered with Tyranitar now. Speaking of whom, Mega Tyranitar is also scary, with base 164 attack, as well as incredible defensive stats. Mega Charizard Y gets Drought, which means Ninetails is probably obsolete now for sun teams.

These Pokemon would make me piss myself if I faced them in battle, or jizz in my pants if I get to use them. Either way, my trousers are not emerging unscathed.

God I want this game.
 
Good to know they're not unbeatable, but still... some of these guys are well scary.

Mega Heracross gets base 185 attack as well as Skill Link, and the moves Pin Missile and Bullet Seed. Couple it with a fighting type move, and this guy is basically unwallable. Mega Mawile has Huge Power, plus a base 105 attack stat. Mega Garchomp gets Sand Force, and base 170 attack, so he's even scarier when partnered with Tyranitar now. Speaking of whom, Mega Tyranitar is also scary, with base 164 attack, as well as incredible defensive stats. Mega Charizard Y gets Drought, which means Ninetails is probably obsolete now for sun teams.

These Pokemon would make me piss myself if I faced them in battle, or jizz in my pants if I get to use them. Either way, my trousers are not emerging unscathed.

God I want this game.
Weather has been nerfed this gen. Drought no longer causes endless sun, it's only sunshine for 5 turns. Ninetails is still the better choice for sun teams, because it doesn't require you to use up your mega evolution slot, and Mega Charizard Y's fire/flying combination still means it loses half its health to stealth rock.
 
Oh. Never mind about Drought then. Though Mega Charizard Y gets base 159 special attack, so it's still pants-jizzingly powerful.
 

Zappit

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Well, my second breeding project is turning out to be much more difficult than my first. I've managed to get the right combination of Timid and Protean on Froakie, but I've really had to hunt down some perfect IVs to fill things in.

Honestly, it's a good thing that the "baby" Pokemon come with three perfect IVs. I've been using some Mantines to boost up those perfect IV counts.
 
Well, my second breeding project is turning out to be much more difficult than my first. I've managed to get the right combination of Timid and Protean on Froakie, but I've really had to hunt down some perfect IVs to fill things in.

Honestly, it's a good thing that the "baby" Pokemon come with three perfect IVs. I've been using some Mantines to boost up those perfect IV counts.
It only took me a few hours to breed a perfect IV torchic (well, perfect in everything but special attack). Just get a friend with dittos in their safari zone. I went out, caught a ton of dittos, and was able to whittle them down to a handful that had 3 perfect IV's each
 

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I'm chasing a lead over there now. I should be able to find somebody at Smogon - I mean, I'm one of their artists!
 

Zappit

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Got my Ditto FC!

This Froakie project of mine is a real pain in the ass. I've got the necessary ingredients - two parents with 4 perfect IVs each, the Everstone and the Destiny Knot, but it just won't give me that five perfect IV Froakie I'm after. Come on! The Mawile project took just half of an afternoon! I'm going on four days now!

Edit - Project Froakie is finally a success! However, I have a small pile of Froakies with four perfect IVs, most of them Timid with Protean. Anyone interested?
 
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Update on the bad egg thing:

Turns out it was the person's 3DS or SD card. They purchased versions of both games and it happened consistently to that person. It's not a problem of a Pokemon glitch or the Wonder Trade.
 
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