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Pokemon X/Y and Alpha Centari with Beta Ray Bill

#1

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, it doesn't matter what you claim (Jay) we all know we all already have this. Mine is still downloading as we speak. In the meantime:

POKEMON MEGATHREAD!

Post your friend shit... or whatever, I'm not sure how it works yet because Nintendo doesn't make interactivity easy. Set up trades, battles, everything, just get it all in here.

I'm already frozen with indecision over which starter I'll get, even though I always just pick the fire one no matter what.

Halforums trainer list:
Ravenpoe (the very best, like no one ever was): 3265-5056-9628
Quotemander (Zero Esc): 5370-1685-4344
Gusto (once more, with): 2766-9102-1008
Dei: 1203-9316-6767
Far: 1676-4968-0688
Heatherling: 4639-9462-1801
BErt: 3711-7674-3778
bhamv3: 2122-6975-0690


#2

Hylian

Hylian

I just got back from a midnight launch with my copy of Pokemon X and I shall now play until my eyes refuse to stay open. :)


#3

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Post your friend shit... or whatever, I'm not sure how it works yet because Nintendo doesn't make interactivity easy. Set up trades, battles, everything, just get it all in here.
Normally I'd agree, except Nintendo has made everything easier with this one. I can't believe they've taken this many steps forward in one generation.

The PSS on the touch screen shows:
- Friends you've registered
- Anyone you've interacted with who isn't your friend
- Random people from around the world

Those random people? You can send them a poke, watch a PR video of their trainer, challenge them to a battle, trade with them. From anywhere in the game, you can get into a random battle with other players, find someone to trade with, or do a Wonder Trade, which is tossing out a Pokemon and seeing what you get back, totally randomized. When you're in battle, a newsreel-style message will pass across the touch screen to let you know if someone is trying to contact you or give you a message. You can hook up voice chat, share pictures ...

The interactivity is so beautifully handled, you would think this wasn't a Nintendo game.

I got Pokemon Y since everyone and their mother (and my wife) seems to want Pokemon X. I'll re-post friend code in this thread tomorrow as I'm starting to lose consciousness, but anyone wanting Halforums 3DS friend codes can always check page 1 of the Animal Crossing thread.


#4

Gusto

Gusto

I'm picking this up in 3 hours when Walmart opens and playing it with some friends all day, doing the starter swap.

I really should try to sleep more.


#5

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'm picking this up in 3 hours when Walmart opens and playing it with some friends all day, doing the starter swap.

I really should try to sleep more.
We're gonna need to do some Halforums starter swapping.

Is there any special download pokemon that can only be gotten once this time around that would stop people from trading starters and restarting?


#6

Gusto

Gusto

We're gonna need to do some Halforums starter swapping.

Is there any special download pokemon that can only be gotten once this time around that would stop people from trading starters and restarting?
Not as far as I know because that is exactly what I'm planning to do.


#7

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

We're gonna need to do some Halforums starter swapping.

Is there any special download pokemon that can only be gotten once this time around that would stop people from trading starters and restarting?
Not as far as I know because that is exactly what I'm planning to do.
There's a Torchic distribution going on right now via internet that has it holding a Blazikenite which will allow its Blaziken evolution to mega evolve.

Gamestop is also distributing level 100 Shiny Giratinas, but I think that's just for Pokemon Black/White 1 and 2.


#8

Dei

Dei

Starter swapping online is for people who don 't have. 3 copies of the game in their house!


#9

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

And for the record, my friend code is:

3265-5056-9628

If anyone wants to add theirs, I'll put them in the main post.


#10

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

SUPER TRAINING.

I just used a large Special Attack punching bag with my Butterfree and her Special Attack went up by 12. That's 12 extra outside the max. For EV Training, that's the equivalent of killing 48 Horseas. This is fucking amazing. Anyone can be competitive now. It's come back from who has hours and hours to waste fighting just the right Pokemon in the wild to move choices, because anyone can bring up their extra stats. I can't believe they finally fixed this. It's fantastic.

Starter swapping online is for people who don 't have. 3 copies of the game in their house!
Alternately, you can use multiple SD cards, but then you need to download the game again.

My friend code: 5370-1685-4344
3DS username is Evil Esc and Trainer name is Zero Esc. I have Pokemon Y.


#11

Gusto

Gusto

My code is 2766-9102-1008. I've got Pokemon X.


#12

Far

Far

My friend code is 1676-4968-0688. In game name is Ender.

Really enjoying this game so far. Hoards battles are gonna be nice. Love that you get experience from capturing pokemon now. Trading is super simple, no longer forcing you to go to a pokecenter to do so. So many qol improvements.

I have Y.


#13

Dei

Dei

1203-9316-6767

I think I have most of you from Animal Crossing already, won't be able to double check until later.

I have X.


#14

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I think this is the first Pokemon sequel where I don't give a shit about running into new Pokemon. It's just a joyful experience. They've made things so much more convenient.


#15

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I have no idea how the new training system works. I mean, I've figured out how to play soccer thingy, but I don't know how to specify what stat to train for, or if you even can.


#16

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I have no idea how the new training system works. I mean, I've figured out how to play soccer thingy, but I don't know how to specify what stat to train for, or if you even can.
You have to do it a couple times before it gives access to honing any stat. The first one is Defense, the second is Special Attack IIRC and then after that they figure you're a bona fide Pokemon soccer coach and will let you decide which stat to raise. The punching bags are self-explanatory as each one says in the name which stat it boosts.

I found out my Chespin is a Timid nature, which means nice Speed, but his Attack is going to rise slower and end lower, and he's a Pokemon that gains Attack type moves. I considered trading him to one of the crazies on GTS once he evolved, but maybe watching Pokemon Origins yesterday got to me--I'm not going to give up on him. I'm going to boost his Attack in the training and make up for the difference, and we're gonna stick it out. Especially with his pincushion second evolution, which he's just become.

Got a female Squirtle, didn't have to reload either :D.


#17

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I've been out of the pokemon business for awhile, what's the benefit of having a female pokemon?


#18

Far

Far

I'm not well versed in it either but I believe when breeding the female passes on her ability. Not certain what else.


#19

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'm not well versed in it either but I believe when breeding the female passes on her ability. Not certain what else.
I know females also pass on moves, but with all TM's being reusable now I don't know if that's as big a deal as it used to be.


#20

Far

Far

I know females also pass on moves, but with all TM's being reusable now I don't know if that's as big a deal as it used to be.
Not attacks but abilities.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ability


#21

Dei

Dei

So females are the breed that the pokemon will breed into. They are always the same breed as the mom, unless the "mom" is Ditto.


#22

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So females are the breed that the pokemon will breed into. They are always the same breed as the mom, unless the "mom" is Ditto.
And Dittos can be gotten in this game, so the need for a female of any rare pokemon seems less critical.


#23

Dei

Dei

So my daughter's name actually fits in the name slot for this pokemon, which makes her ridiculously happy. Nintendo is biased against 8 letter names a lot of the time.


#24

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

And Dittos can be gotten in this game, so the need for a female of any rare pokemon seems less critical.
That depends when Ditto becomes available. In Gen 4, they were incredibly rare--had to be gotten with Poke Radar after you beat the Elite Four. In Black/White, non-existent. I think they were available pretty early in Black/White 2, but I didn't get too far in those games. In general, it's easier knowing you can get more of what you want.

I'm not sure about passing on the Ability. I know if a male holds an Everstone there's a 50% chance of passing on the nature. Or there was. X/Y have changed a lot of the mechanics and since the release was essentially simultaneous around the world, there aren't months of translated documents from Japan to give an instruction guide. Which I'm fine with.


#25

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

RAVENPOOOOOOOOOEEEEE!


#26

Bowielee

Bowielee

I refuse to get this until my semester is over. I need to get SOME studying done.


#27

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I refuse to get this until my semester is over. I need to get SOME studying done.
This is why my cousin won't be getting it until Christmas. He just started middle school, and I remember keenly how I spent every spare moment on Pokemon after Red/Blue came out.

Fuck, I'm old.


#28

Bowielee

Bowielee

Marvel Heroes sucks up enough of my free time as it is.


#29

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

RAVENPOOOOOOOOOEEEEE!
Yeah... don't step into Poe's house, you get burned.

Also, pokemon hordes are officially goddamn bullshit when you come up against 5 pokemon WHO ALL USE SAND ATTACK EVERY GODDAMN TURN. GWWAAAAAAAA

I can't wait until I run into a cave and find hordes of zubats confusing everything.


#30

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Yeah... don't step into Poe's house, you get burned.

Also, pokemon hordes are officially goddamn bullshit when you come up against 5 pokemon WHO ALL USE SAND ATTACK EVERY GODDAMN TURN. GWWAAAAAAAA

I can't wait until I run into a cave and find hordes of zubats confusing everything.
At least caves now have dark patches that are akin to the grass in other areas, so not every step will cause an encounter.


#31

Bowielee

Bowielee

I have what is probably a really stupid question. Do new Pokemon games usually include all the previous game's pokemon? For instance, will it be possible for me to tame a wild Oshawott in X or Y?

Black was my first Pokemon game ever.


#32

Zappit

Zappit

I have what is probably a really stupid question. Do new Pokemon games usually include all the previous game's pokemon? For instance, will it be possible for me to tame a wild Oshawott in X or Y?

Black was my first Pokemon game ever.
Somebody wanna get this guy a Charmander?


#33

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I have what is probably a really stupid question. Do new Pokemon games usually include all the previous game's pokemon? For instance, will it be possible for me to tame a wild Oshawott in X or Y?

Black was my first Pokemon game ever.
Oshawott is a starter Pokemon, meaning it will never be found in the wild. This doesn't mean it won't appear at some point in the game. For example, shortly after the first gym in X/Y, you can pick one of the starters from the first gen of games. Something similar may happen later for 5th gen starters like Oshawott, but since the games were released worldwide at the same time, it's kind of a mystery what will happen later on.

A Game Freak spokesperson said that ALL the Pokemon from previous games will be in this one, but it's unknown whether he means all wild Pokemon, or genuinely all including starters and legendaries.

So far most of the Pokemon I've run into have either been gen 1 (Red/Blue) or gen 6 (X/Y), but I have seen the Pan monkeys from gen 5; they're more common here than in Black/White. In any case, I'd recommend still checking it out if you liked Black/White--it just means a lot of different Pokemon you're less familiar with, which can be a good thing, and as I've said earlier in the thread, Nintendo has improved much of the game significantly.


#34

Far

Far

There is something like a friend code safari zone and I'm not certain the specifics but someone on reddit, take that as you will, reported catching a wild ivysaur there.


#35

Zappit

Zappit

That bank thing is going to be useful. I've got a few legitimately hardcore trained fourth gen Pokemon that would still be very relevant in the competitive battling scene, including my prized Jolly Tyranitar. Got most of every gen's starters on transfer over, too.

I have a feeling that the "all the Pokemon" statement refers to having them all animated in the new style, not that they would all somehow appear in game to see or catch.


#36

Bowielee

Bowielee

Wait, can I transfer my Pokemon from Black to X or Y?


#37

Zappit

Zappit

In December, they're launching two Pokemon apps, one of which is a paid service, to store Pokemon in a cloud and transfer to XY. So yes, you will be able to, but not immediately.


#38

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

This post from reddit mimics exactly my frustration.

random redditor said:
A horde of Scraggy appeared!

Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Charmander's attack missed!
switches out
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Scraggy used Sand-Attack!
Frogadier's attack missed!
throws DS



#39

Dei

Dei

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#40

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, I attempted to set my status as "Blasting Off Again," but the game informed me that it couldn't because of inappropriate language.

Nintendo does not tolerate Team Rocket.


#41

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

That bank thing is going to be useful. I've got a few legitimately hardcore trained fourth gen Pokemon that would still be very relevant in the competitive battling scene, including my prized Jolly Tyranitar. Got most of every gen's starters on transfer over, too.

I have a feeling that the "all the Pokemon" statement refers to having them all animated in the new style, not that they would all somehow appear in game to see or catch.
Possibly. And I have a competitive team too, so I feel you, but I'm glad they aren't releasing the transfer app until December so that people who want to play now can't just smash through the game with already-trained Pokemon.


#42

Zappit

Zappit

I am seriously hoping that the random number generator can't be cracked this gen. RNG abuse is how competitive battling become so inaccessible to casual players. Now that it's easy to track EVs, and we know how natures affect stats, anyone can put a competitive team together. It would be nice to keep it that way. Plus, Smogon and Seribbi are noticing a stat creep in the new gen, so that could equalize things once the flood of power-trained Pokemon comes in December.

I know Smogon hasn't cracked the RNG yet, and the 3DS AR device simply doesn't work. I'm just hoping Nintendo has truly shut that down. I know it won't happen, but it would be nice.


#43

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I require a female torchic with speed boost.

Who can make this happen?


#44

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'd help, but my Torchic's male.


#45

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'd help, but my Torchic's male.
I'm going to give you a melonballer, and you're going to get in there and fix that.


#46

Zappit

Zappit

From what I've read, males CAN pass on abilities this gen.


#47

Gusto

Gusto

Augh I had a rough time at the second gym after taking too long to find it and nearly my entire team passing level 30 and not obeying me anymore.


#48

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Augh I had a rough time at the second gym after taking too long to find it and nearly my entire team passing level 30 and not obeying me anymore.
I thought only traded Pokemon wouldn't obey beyond your range.

The levels seemed skewed towards being kind of high in this one thanks to the new Exp Share. My guys are around 20 and I'm not at the second gym yet. Not sure if that's good or bad--this is the first Pokemon game where I haven't had some kind of guide in the house since the one my wife ordered won't get here until the 22nd.


#49

Shawn

Shawn

Pokemon?

This still a thing?

I kid. I enjoyed the original games enough as I was entering college. I'm not really a big fan currently. The last time I used a Pokemon was on Super Smash Bros Brawl.
I remember Pokemon Snap very fondly though.


#50

Gusto

Gusto

I thought only traded Pokemon wouldn't obey beyond your range.

The levels seemed skewed towards being kind of high in this one thanks to the new Exp Share. My guys are around 20 and I'm not at the second gym yet. Not sure if that's good or bad--this is the first Pokemon game where I haven't had some kind of guide in the house since the one my wife ordered won't get here until the 22nd.
We did the starter swap, so I'm technically on my 5th game. My original Quilladon (Chespin), Wartortle and Charmeleon stopped obeying me after thirty, as a result of the 2nd gym being kind of a long time after the first, EXP Share, and traded Pokemon experience boost.


#51

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

We did the starter swap, so I'm technically on my 5th game. My original Quilladon (Chespin), Wartortle and Charmeleon stopped obeying me after thirty, as a result of the 2nd gym being kind of a long time after the first, EXP Share, and traded Pokemon experience boost.
Well in that case, you only have yourself to blame :p.

Pokemon?

This still a thing?

I kid. I enjoyed the original games enough as I was entering college. I'm not really a big fan currently. The last time I used a Pokemon was on Super Smash Bros Brawl.
I remember Pokemon Snap very fondly though.
Pokemon is still akin to printing money for Nintendo. I'm sure they saw a nice boost in 3DS (and now 2DS) sales because there are a lot of people who only buy Nintendo handhelds for Pokemon.

I'm going to give you a melonballer, and you're going to get in there and fix that.
I'm pretty sure the Torchic being distributed is exactly the same for everyone, so someone's will have to breed with a Ditto before you can get a female.


#52

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'm pretty sure the Torchic being distributed is exactly the same for everyone, so someone's will have to breed with a Ditto before you can get a female.
Nope, it's still getting rolled with random natures and IV's (or at least natures, not sure about IV's) and there have been posts on other boards of people who have rerolled (by soft-resetting after recieving the gift) until they got a female. But I didn't.[DOUBLEPOST=1381721290,1381721236][/DOUBLEPOST]Although, if males can pass on abilities now, then hoping for a female isn't as important.


#53

Zappit

Zappit

First, this game-breaking save glitch.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/14/some-pokemon-x-and-y-players-reporting-game-breaking-save-glitch/

Also, is anyone else getting an occasional black screen lock when you close the 3DS and open it back up? I experienced it in the early game a few times, but I've noticed that if you're just standing in place, it won't happen.

On the bright side, I managed to get my modest Fennekin. Best nature for that one. SR'ed a couple times. Interestingly, the starters can be female this gen.


#54

Dei

Dei

Pretty sure starters had a chance to be female every gen.


#55

bhamv3

bhamv3

Pretty sure starters had a chance to be female every gen.
Yep, just relatively rare (1/8 chance, IIRC).

And I won't be getting my hands on this until December at the earliest. *shakes fist*

And you know what, this might sound elitist, but I'm actually kinda sad they made power-training more accessible. Going into the nitty gritty of the natures and IVs and EVs in the previous generations, and finally breeding and training a competitively viable pokemon, gave a tremendous sense of accomplishment. I still have very fond memories of my Emerald team, and how it could basically kick the crap out of anyone I link battled with.


#56

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Yep, just relatively rare (1/8 chance, IIRC).

And I won't be getting my hands on this until December at the earliest. *shakes fist*

And you know what, this might sound elitist, but I'm actually kinda sad they made power-training more accessible. Going into the nitty gritty of the natures and IVs and EVs in the previous generations, and finally breeding and training a competitively viable pokemon, gave a tremendous sense of accomplishment. I still have very fond memories of my Emerald team, and how it could basically kick the crap out of anyone I link battled with.
The old methods of EV training still work, and are actually faster than the super training minigames. Super Training just made it much more accessible to the everyday gamer. Plus, the ability to unlock a special punching bag to wipe out EV's is much more forgiving if you screw up.

I got a level 1 speed boost torchic in a wonder trade, so female ones have to exist, because -someone- is breeding them. I also got a fennekin in a wonder trade, which also looked like a breeding reject. I'll still take it!

In other news: HOW FUCKING LONG DOES IT TAKE AN EGG TO HATCH THIS GENERATION! I'm up to my ass in bagon eggs, and I can't get a single one to hatch. I don't remember it taking nearly this many steps.

Guess I'm going to have to level up a fletchling.


#57

Dei

Dei

I'm only getting shit out of wonder trades. :/


#58

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'm only getting shit out of wonder trades. :/
Oh, it's tons of shit. Lots of scatterbugs and zigzagoons. But it seems people have taken to throwing their breeding outcasts out into the wonder void, and sometimes you can get lucky.


#59

Zappit

Zappit

This game is pretty glitchy. Pressing the home button actually freezes the game, and even shutting the DS off becomes difficult. This needs a patch very soon.


#60

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

This game is pretty glitchy. Pressing the home button actually freezes the game, and even shutting the DS off becomes difficult. This needs a patch very soon.
Where were you, and what were you doing, when you encountered this? I haven't noticed any freezing or unresponsiveness.


#61

Dei

Dei

Skating circles in my Berry Field trying to hatch 2 Chespin eggs. Yay so fun.


#62

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

In other news: HOW FUCKING LONG DOES IT TAKE AN EGG TO HATCH THIS GENERATION! I'm up to my ass in bagon eggs, and I can't get a single one to hatch. I don't remember it taking nearly this many steps.

Guess I'm going to have to level up a fletchling.
At first misread this as bacon eggs and thought "Why is he trying so hard to breed Spoink?"


#63

bhamv3

bhamv3

At first misread this as bacon eggs and thought "Why is he trying so hard to breed Spoink?"
Thank god, I thought I was the only one that read it as bacon eggs.


#64

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

This game is pretty glitchy. Pressing the home button actually freezes the game, and even shutting the DS off becomes difficult. This needs a patch very soon.
I've had none of these issues and I've been opening and shutting a ton. The only annoyance I've had is that when I close and open, it disconnects me from the internet--which makes sense, since the system is in hold mode.


#65

Zappit

Zappit

It's weird. I haven't had it happen after the first twenty minutes or so. This hasn't happened with any other games, but I think I figured it out. The Internet disconnect seems to be the cause. I toggle it off and on, and I'm back in business.


#66

Dei

Dei

So I hatched 7 Chespin eggs after borrowing my daughter's female, and got 6 dudes. I have 3 left after throwing 3 into Wonder Trade if anyone wants. :p One is modest, one is Serious, one is Hardy. All have Overgrow as their inane ability and Tackle, Growl, and Rollout.


#67

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Skating circles in my Berry Field trying to hatch 2 Chespin eggs. Yay so fun.
I'll trade you a bagon egg for one :p


#68

bhamv3

bhamv3

I'll trade you a bagon egg for one :p
Yes, read it wrong again.


#69

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

... I just got the Y Legendary pokemon in a wonder trade from Japan.

He got an abra.

It was a nice abra.


#70

Far

Far

Not saying problems don't exist as the Lumiose Town Bug seems pretty well documented but I've also not experienced a single instance of freezing or the like.
... I just got the Y Legendary pokemon in a wonder trade from Japan.

He got an abra.

It was a nice abra.
I was pretty happy with the Bulbasaur I got but that is a nice catch, for you anyway, Abra guy not so much. Been doing my part to release any fodder and pump back in some decent things.


#71

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I can only assume maybe he'd never used wondertrade, and didn't know how it worked? Like, didn't expect it to just send the pokemon you select out, and then that's it, whatever you get, you get.


#72

bhamv3

bhamv3

What are the stats on Yveltal like? Offensive? Defensive? Physical or special attacking?


#73

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

What are the stats on Yveltal like? Offensive? Defensive? Physical or special attacking?
This one's stats, at level 50, are:

Calm nature (bonus to sp def, minus to attack, so keep that in mind)

HP 192
Attack 123
Defense 111
Sp Attack 151
Sp Def 129
Speed 119

Dark Aura - Powers up dark-type moves


#74

bhamv3

bhamv3

Hmm, looks like a special attacker, but with high HP, so it can probably tank a hit or two. Its ability will also help it hit even harder. Not very impressive speed though, so it'll probably be played as a wallbreaker, probably holding a choice item, instead of a late-game sweeper.


#75

Dei

Dei

I finally have an extra female Chespin if anyone wants it.


#76

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I finally have an extra female Chespin if anyone wants it.
Pwese?


#77

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
Need to take my daughter to gymnastics then I can trade next time you're online.


#78

linglingface

linglingface

FC: 4639-9462-1801
I just started playing 2 days ago! I picked up X for myself and Y for Mike. I think we might have to start over though to do some starter swapping since we're not too far in yet. >.>
I have a very hard time with Pokemon games though. I have this thing where I need to level all the Pokemon as I go, while I *should* just pick my favorites and level those. I never make it very far in the Pokemon games because of this problem, but I'm trying to not do that this time around.
Also, some of these evolutions are terrifying... I started with a cute fox and now I have a sassy furry. Also, an adorable bird just turned into a walking penis. It's terrifying and I should have stopped them from evolving.


#79

Dei

Dei

I'm pretty sure several of us can hook you up with more copies of starters. I have been breeding and trading for more female starters for the last two days.

Speaking of... I have 6 male charmander, a male squirtle, and a male Chespin...


#80

linglingface

linglingface

How do you breed Pokemon?! I'm such a Pokemon noob... I don't know the mechanics of this game at all.
Mike wasn't very happy with his game so far so he decided he was okay with restarting to trade starters for the both of us. I *would* love a charmander though since I picked squirtle.


#81

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

How do you breed Pokemon?! I'm such a Pokemon noob... I don't know the mechanics of this game at all.
Mike wasn't very happy with his game so far so he decided he was okay with restarting to trade starters for the both of us. I *would* love a charmander though since I picked squirtle.
You have to get to the breeding center and stick either a male and female Pokemon in, or a Pokemon and a Ditto. The offspring will be the same species as the mother Pokemon.


#82

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You have to get to the breeding center and stick either a male and female Pokemon in, or a Pokemon and a Ditto. The offspring will be the same species as the mother Pokemon.
To clarify, the breeding center is the daycare center, and it's right square in the middle of the map. You'll run past it as soon as you get past the Snorlax blocking the main road.

You can store up to two pokemon at the daycare center, and the center will level them up over time (though you don't get to choose what moves they learn while they're doing this). If you store two pokemon of opposite genders (or one pokemon and a ditto) -and- if they are in the same egg group (you'll have to look these up) then after awhile they might produce an egg. The species the egg hatches into is always the same as the female pokemon, unless its a ditto, or unless you're breeding pokemon that can only be 1 gender. You can talk to the guy outside the daycare center, and if an egg is produced, he'll give it to you. "Time" passes in the game whenever you take a step, so if you're waiting for your pokemon to do the deed, run around outside (or better, roller blade/bike around to go faster) and then check back in periodically to see if an egg has been produced.

Once you have the egg, you have to hatch it. This also takes time, which is again steps. Just keep it in your party and run around. Different pokemon have different lengths of egg cycles, some will take longer than others. If you have a pokemon with FLAME BODY ability in your party, such as a Fletchling that has been leveled up to lvl16 and evolved, then half the number of steps are needed to hatch the egg.

There's a bit more to it than that, but those are the basics and should get you started. Check out a pokemon breeding guide to find out how to breed pokemon with specific moves they couldn't ordinarily get, how to better get that perfect nature you're hoping to achieve, and so on.


#83

bhamv3

bhamv3

Just a brief note, the ability Magma Armor also works like Flame Body, and halves the number of steps needed to hatch an egg. Having multiple Pokemon in your party with these abilities will not stack, however, so you only need one Poke with one of these abilities.

God I want this game so bad.


#84

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Just a brief note, the ability Magma Armor also works like Flame Body, and halves the number of steps needed to hatch an egg. Having multiple Pokemon in your party with these abilities will not stack, however, so you only need one Poke with one of these abilities.

God I want this game so bad.
Yeah, but fletchling's lvl16 evolved form has flame body, and it's one of the very first pokemon you can catch. That's why I only mentioned it. It's a beginner's guide... I didn't even talk about IV's!


#85

bhamv3

bhamv3

Can... can you see IVs in X and Y?


#86

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Can... can you see IVs in X and Y?
Like in past games, there's an npc that can give you a general idea of IV's, but no, you can't see them directly. You can see a rough graph of EV's though (and even reset them with a little work)


#87

bhamv3

bhamv3

Ah, ok, thanks.

I really want this game.


#88

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Like in past games, there's an npc that can give you a general idea of IV's, but no, you can't see them directly. You can see a rough graph of EV's though (and even reset them with a little work)
You can see IVs. One stat's name will be red and one will be blue on the Pokemon's status screen.


#89

bhamv3

bhamv3

You can see IVs. One stat's name will be red and one will be blue on the Pokemon's status screen.
That's from the Pokemon's nature, isn't it? Red means the boosted stat, blue means the reduced one. Generation 5 had that feature too.


#90

Dei

Dei

Side note, the group exp share is ridic. I've been plowing through the plot without having to stop to grind levels at all, even when I switch up some of my party. Though I do appreciate the change because it means I don't have to even out my daughter's levels for her every night when she stops playing anymore. :p


#91

Dei

Dei



#92

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Side note, the group exp share is ridic. I've been plowing through the plot without having to stop to grind levels at all, even when I switch up some of my party. Though I do appreciate the change because it means I don't have to even out my daughter's levels for her every night when she stops playing anymore. :p
I'm using it to evolve Pokemon I don't use. But yeah, it is ridiculous. I'm glad I have Pokemon Amie and Super Training to slow me down, because I'd hate for the game to be over too soon.


#93

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You can see IVs. One stat's name will be red and one will be blue on the Pokemon's status screen.
Yeah, as bhamv already said, that's not IV's. That's nature. The red stat will get a 10% bonus and the blue stat a 10% minus.


#94

Dei

Dei

Oh my god, Fairy Eevee is adorable. Neeeeeed.


#95

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Oh my god, Fairy Eevee is adorable. Neeeeeed.
It needs to know a fairy move (eevee learns one, charm, at level 29) and it needs to have max hearts in pokemon-amie


#96

Zappit

Zappit

Picked up an Eevee on Wonder Trade.

Niiiiiiiiiiiice.


#97

Dei

Dei

I have a female Charmander I would like to trade for a female Bulbasaur if anyone can hook me up. GTS seems to only want legendaries for one.


#98

Far

Far

You can now catch eevee's in the wild if anyone is in dire want of one, on route 10. If you are looking to get a Sylveon, catch one at level 19 there. It should know baby doll eyes, then as mentioned earlier it's just a matter of maxing all the pokemon aime bars and leveling.
I have a female Charmander I would like to trade for a female Bulbasaur if anyone can hook me up. GTS seems to only want legendaries for one.
You can restrict legendaries from showing up in trades during your searches by excluding "Special" pokemon in the options of the pokemon menu in the gts.


#99

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I have a female Charmander I would like to trade for a female Bulbasaur if anyone can hook me up. GTS seems to only want legendaries for one.
That's GTS ever since GTS was introduced.

If we could upload Pokemon from previous generations, I'd have one for you (we have babies of all the starters), but since that can't happen until the bank opens in December, we're kind of stuck.


#100

Dei

Dei

Zero Esc said:
That's GTS ever since GTS was introduced. If we could upload Pokemon from previous generations, I'd have one for you (we have babies of all the starters), but since that can't happen until the bank opens in December, we're kind of stuck.
So I managed to get a female Bagon, a female Charmander, and a female Torchic without issue. Bulbasaur is apparently made of gold.


#101

Zappit

Zappit

Very, very interesting possibility. Many folks over at Smogon are noticing HP going up during Wi-Fi battles. This has led to speculation that IVs get maxed during those. Evidence might be building for that being true. Game Freak did state they are doing more to discourage hacking this gen. Something like this would certainly do it.


#102

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Very, very interesting possibility. Many folks over at Smogon are noticing HP going up during Wi-Fi battles. This has led to speculation that IVs get maxed during those. Evidence might be building for that being true. Game Freak did state they are doing more to discourage hacking this gen. Something like this would certainly do it.

What levels were the pokemon in the wifi battle? Levels are automatically set to 50 for wifi battles


#103

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I have plenty of spare Squirtles if anyone wants a baby.


#104

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I have plenty of spare Squirtles if anyone wants a baby.
Are any of them female? I have a male, but I need a female.

I have lots of spare Chespin (but only one female at the moment)


#105

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Are any of them female? I have a male, but I need a female.

I have lots of spare Chespin (but only one female at the moment)
Yeah, I can spare a female.


#106



BErt

I've been gone for awhile but I do have this if anyone wants to add me that hasnt already from animal crossing. 3711-7674-3778

I just got to the daycare, but my froakie starter is a female so if anyone needs one and can spare a different starter im definitely willing to trade.


#107

Dei

Dei

I just caught Xerneas with one Ultra Ball. I am either one lucky bastard or the catch rate is way higher than previous games.


#108

linglingface

linglingface

I just got to the Day Care yesterday. I haven't checked yet to see if I have anything worth breeding at this time. I don't think I even have anything worth trading yet. :p


#109

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I now have the ability to breed all of the Gen VI and Gen I starters.

So... you know... I got whatever hookups anyone needs.


#110

Dei

Dei

Only think I'm still missing on that regard is fem Bulbasaur. HOOK ME UP!


#111

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Also, don't forget to friend everyone in the thread, because both parties have to add friend codes for it to register. The more friend codes you have, the move bonus safari areas you get at the end.

Unless you just don't want to be my friend, in which case... ok :okay:[DOUBLEPOST=1382047492,1382047459][/DOUBLEPOST]
Only think I'm still missing on that regard is fem Bulbasaur. HOOK ME UP!
A female will take me awhile, until I can breed another. I have plenty of males if you want one, though.


#112

Dei

Dei

Man, I gave you a fem Chespin don't be stingy. (I can wait though, seriously)


#113

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Apparently other starters are available. I've seen people in GTS requesting Gen 2, Gen 3, Gen 4 starters.


#114

Covar

Covar

I just discovered that there's a poke ball icon next to the name of wild Pokemon if you've already captured them. This is going to save me a lot of poke balls.


#115

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I feel like such a slug. I've been near the Breeding Center for 2 days, not progressing. I'm really in no hurry.


#116

bhamv3

bhamv3

I feel like such a slug. I've been near the Breeding Center for 2 days, not progressing. I'm really in no hurry.
I know that feeling. I got to the day care in Black 2 and my game ground to a screeching halt. I spent days biking back and forth in front of the day care, waiting for eggs to be produced and to hatch.

Managed to breed a kickass team out of it though.


#117

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Apparently other starters are available. I've seen people in GTS requesting Gen 2, Gen 3, Gen 4 starters.
You can request anything from any generation in the GTS just by typing in the pokemon's name. Doesn't mean they're available.

I don't know if they're available or not, but likely they won't be until the pokemon transfer and pokemon bank apps open up to allow transfer from past generations.[DOUBLEPOST=1382060786,1382060697][/DOUBLEPOST]
Man, I gave you a fem Chespin don't be stingy. (I can wait though, seriously)
:p If I had a female to give you, I would. But I've been breeding them with dittos.


#118

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I know that feeling. I got to the day care in Black 2 and my game ground to a screeching halt. I spent days biking back and forth in front of the day care, waiting for eggs to be produced and to hatch.

Managed to breed a kickass team out of it though.
I wouldn't feel bad if I was breeding an awesome team, but I'm just making Squirtles to be generous. I've gone back and forth so many times that my original breeder is over-leveled. I should get a move on.[DOUBLEPOST=1382060913,1382060864][/DOUBLEPOST]
You can request anything from any generation in the GTS just by typing in the pokemon's name.
FINALLY.


#119

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Searching for pokemon to trade on the GTS is... well, not good right now. I wanted a ditto, and the only people trading for them were wanting fricken legendaries and stuff.

I had much better results just by putting a squirtle on the GTS, and asking for a ditto for it. Five minutes later I checked in on it, and someone had already fulfilled the trade.

So if you're looking for a specific pokemon, be proactive and offer up something for it. Tons of people are scouring the GTS right now, it really favors those trading than those looking for trades.


#120

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Ravenpoe, hate to break it to you, but GTS is shitty as always. This is nothing new.


#121

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe, hate to break it to you, but GTS is shitty as always. This is nothing new.
My point was it's not, -if- you're the one that initiates the trades.


#122

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Buyer beware: the Pokemon X and Y walkthrough is only that--a walkthrough. There is no Kalos Pokedex, so you won't be formulating movesets and strategies from this thing. No news on when the real Pokedex will be released. It's not even announced yet. Maybe they'll be making a 3DS app.


#123

Zappit

Zappit

Woo! Got a Ditto from Japan on the GTS!


#124

Dei

Dei

I have some Munchlax if anyone wants them.


#125

linglingface

linglingface

I just discovered that there's a poke ball icon next to the name of wild Pokemon if you've already captured them. This is going to save me a lot of poke balls.
I just discovered that last night too and wondered if I was the last to discover it.


#126

Zappit

Zappit

So...Eevee are fairly common right outside of the town with the second gym. They're also great on the GTS to get more starters. I'm sitting on all three of the new ones, and I think I'll work on the other originals.

Used a Kanghaskhan to get that Ditto. The version exclusive Pokemon are also great trade fodder. Jesus, GTS is great.


#127

Dei

Dei

I just need my GD female Bulbasaur and I'll be able to mass breed female I and VI starters with my Ditto. Rawr~


#128

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I just need my GD female Bulbasaur and I'll be able to mass breed female I and VI starters with my Ditto. Rawr~
Does it work that way? I think breeding a female pokemon with a ditto still has the same gender ratio as normal.


#129

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
Does it work that way? I think breeding a female pokemon with a ditto still has the same gender ratio as normal.
I thought Ditto always exactly cloned the Pokemon gender and all. I know you can't get females from males using Ditto.

I could be wrong and just very unlucky in previous games .


#130

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I thought Ditto always exactly cloned the Pokemon gender and all. I know you can't get females from males using Ditto.

I could be wrong and just very unlucky in previous games .
Yeah, I just looked it up. Breeding with a ditto is no different from breeding with an opposite gender pokemon (with the exception that species will always be of the non-ditto) so gender is still going to be the same chance as whatever the ratio is for that pokemon. Which is right around 10% females for most of the starters.


#131

Dei

Dei

Zero Esc said:
Apparently other starters are available. I've seen people in GTS requesting Gen 2, Gen 3, Gen 4 starters.
People are requesting them because they can search by name, but I haven 't actually seen any for trade.


#132

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Oh man... endgame spoilers

The old school remix battle music when you fight Mewtwo is AWESOME.


#133

Zappit

Zappit

People on GTS are frikkin' greedy. I see tons demanding Legendaries for version exclusives. Everyone seems to want Scizor.

I'm losing my passion for Wonder Trade. While I try to throw out a decent variety of stuff, every time I see myself get paired with someone from the U.S., I know I'm getting shit back. C'mon, folks! You're making Americans look bad!


#134

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I've had great success on the GTS, but only when I specify the trade. Pretty much anything I want, as long as I offer something I think is a worthy trade, it gets filled within minutes.


#135

bhamv3

bhamv3

People on GTS are frikkin' greedy. I see tons demanding Legendaries for version exclusives. Everyone seems to want Scizor.

I'm losing my passion for Wonder Trade. While I try to throw out a decent variety of stuff, every time I see myself get paired with someone from the U.S., I know I'm getting shit back. C'mon, folks! You're making Americans look bad!
In their defense, Scizor is awesome.


#136

Zappit

Zappit

In their defense, Scizor is awesome.
Absolutely. It's my all-time favorite, and I can't wait to bring my trained one over, especially since it has a Mega-Evolution.


#137

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I have an adamant volbeat with an everstone (which I got by breeding an adamant illumise with a ditto) banging away at a female scyther right now.[DOUBLEPOST=1382255207,1382254924][/DOUBLEPOST]You know, now that I think about it... Scyther is a mantis.

That Volbeat's gonna be dead when I get back.


#138

linglingface

linglingface

I'm losing my passion for Wonder Trade. While I try to throw out a decent variety of stuff, every time I see myself get paired with someone from the U.S., I know I'm getting shit back. C'mon, folks! You're making Americans look bad!
To be fair, I know I tend to put stuff up that's decent to start with, but when I get shit back, I put that garbage back up for trade the next time. >.>


#139

Zappit

Zappit

I have an adamant volbeat with an everstone (which I got by breeding an adamant illumise with a ditto) banging away at a female scyther right now.[DOUBLEPOST=1382255207,1382254924][/DOUBLEPOST]You know, now that I think about it... Scyther is a mantis.

That Volbeat's gonna be dead when I get back.
What's the deal with using an Everstone while breeding? I keep seeing mention of it, but what does it do for breeding?


#140

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

What's the deal with using an Everstone while breeding? I keep seeing mention of it, but what does it do for breeding?
It passes on the nature of the pokemon holding it. So, since I want an adamant scyther, using an adamant volbeat holding an everstone will ensure that all eggs produced are adamant nature.


#141

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I thought Everstones just have a percentage.

I still love Wonder Trades. It's hit and miss, but you have to accept that when you toss stuff out there. I've received my share of Bidoofs, but also Pokemon I wouldn't get until later on.

The Exp Share is ridiculous. How many people's starters had to be getting close to full evolution by the time they hit the second gym?


#142

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I thought Everstones just have a percentage.

I still love Wonder Trades. It's hit and miss, but you have to accept that when you toss stuff out there. I've received my share of Bidoofs, but also Pokemon I wouldn't get until later on.

The Exp Share is ridiculous. How many people's starters had to be getting close to full evolution by the time they hit the second gym?
As far as I can tell, passing on a nature is 100% with an everstone. I've used it a ton.

My starter was almost to his final evolution by the second gym, but the distance between the first few gyms is much further in this game than past pokemon games. The gyms themselves seem to play a more minor role this time around, and you only really go back to beating them towards the end.


#143

Dei

Dei

The guide says 50%. Also gyms come faster after the first two for sure.


#144

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

As far as I can tell, passing on a nature is 100% with an everstone. I've used it a ton.

My starter was almost to his final evolution by the second gym, but the distance between the first few gyms is much further in this game than past pokemon games. The gyms themselves seem to play a more minor role this time around, and you only really go back to beating them towards the end.
That seems weird considering the trade level restrictions compared to badges.


#145

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

The guide says 50%. Also gyms come faster after the first two for sure.

Then I'm damn lucky. I've bred about 50 eggs using an everstone, it's been the same nature every time.


#146

Zappit

Zappit

Got good news on breeding. If one parent holds a Destiny Knot, up to five IVs get passed on, too. It's been confirmed over at Smogon, so once those perfect parents come over through the bank, there's going to be a lot more high IV mons.


#147

bhamv3

bhamv3

Passing natures with an Everstone used to be 50% in Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. From Heartgold and Soulsilver onwards, it's 100%, including all of Generation 5 and presumably Generation 6.

Unless, of course, both parents are holding Everstones, in which case I believe the nature is randomly chosen between the two parents' natures, with a 50% chance for each. Also, if you do this, you're an idiot. :p


#148

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

People are gonna have to to breed me some perfect IV mons, because I have shit all to transfer over.

Also, you guys need to hurry up and beat the elite 4. So I can get more pokemon at the friend safari.


#149

Zappit

Zappit

I do have the capability to get you a perfect Ditto (or nearly anything else) when transfers can start. Hacked parent Pokemon produce offspring that are not hacked, and can easily have perfect IVs.


#150

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I do have the capability to get you a perfect Ditto (or nearly anything else) when transfers can start. Hacked parent Pokemon produce offspring that are not hacked, and can easily have perfect IVs.
Hrm... I don't know. I mean, that's not practically cheating... it is cheating.

(who am I kidding... I'm gonna say yes)


#151

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Also, you guys need to hurry up and beat the elite 4. So I can get more pokemon at the friend safari.
I'm almost to the ...


... second gym.


#152

Zappit

Zappit

Is it cheating when RNG abuse, which also circumvents the spirit of the game and exploits its code, produces the same results? Why is saving hours of pointless timing considered cheating when RNG abuse is considered legit?

I'll take the tunnel rather than climb over the mountain with lead weights tied to my feet, thank you.


#153

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Is it cheating when RNG abuse, which also circumvents the spirit of the game and exploits its code, produces the same results?
Yeah, it is. I kinda like how the game is right now, where no one (as far as I can tell) can cheese up the perfect stats possible. Eventually people would breed out the genetically perfect pokemon, which will lead to more, and it will have been the result of likely thousands of hours of work... and also japanese people.

But as someone that's never going to play competitively anyway, when the flood gates open up and the genetically crafted supermon begin to invade, might as well join them.


#154

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
People are gonna have to to breed me some perfect IV mons, because I have shit all to transfer over. Also, you guys need to hurry up and beat the elite 4. So I can get more pokemon at the friend safari.
Fine fine I'll take my lvl 70 Pokemon on over to the 8th gym and get my ass in gear. :p


#155

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Fine fine I'll take my lvl 70 Pokemon on over to the 8th gym and get my ass in gear. :p
All but one of my pokemon were nearly level 80 by the time I finally hit the elite 4, so I can't really talk. I got so distracted by everything else in the game that the gyms didn't matter.

Excuse me, I need to water my berries.


#156

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

All but one of my pokemon were nearly level 80 by the time I finally hit the elite 4, so I can't really talk. I got so distracted by everything else in the game that the gyms didn't matter.

Excuse me, I need to water my berries.
Out of curiosity, about what level range were the Elite Four?


#157

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Out of curiosity, about what level range were the Elite Four?
Around 65, though the champion lineup at the end were around 68-70


#158

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that I purchased a 3DS and this game. Would I have to buy a separate cartridge for each person that wanted to play it at my house, or does this game support any sort of multiple users in one cartridge/purchase?

I assume the worst, but I figure it doesn't hurt to ask...
There's only one save file, this has been the case for every pokemon game. It makes it impossible to have multiple savegames to capture the same pokemon multiple times for trading.


#159

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, it appears that pokemon caught in the friend safari always have 2 perfect IV's


#160

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, in one of the towns towards the end (it's the one with a giant sundial) there's a house with an old man inside. The old man says he's been lonely ever since his wife died, and wants to know if he could look after one of your pokemon for you. He wanted one level 5 or under, so I gave him one of the spare bulbasaurs I'd bred.

Every now and then I'd go check on them, to see what was up with this guy. And he'd always say something like "I'm having so much fun with bulbasaur, I feel young again! Would you like him back?" And since I didn't want to empty my party to make an open slot, I was always like nah, keep playing with him.


I went back to the city today to check the hidden power of a pokemon, but entered the wrong house...

It was the old man's house, but it was empty, except for a pokeball on the ground. Inside the pokeball was my bulbasaur, with a note from the old man. He wrote about how happy he was to have a companion until the end...

Dammit pokemon... I was not expecting to feel.


#161

Zappit

Zappit

So, it appears that pokemon caught in the friend safari always have 2 perfect IV's
Up to three, max.


#162

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, while grinding luvdiscs for heart scales (thief, mothafucka!) I seem to have contracted the pokerus.


#163

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that I purchased a 3DS and this game. Would I have to buy a separate cartridge for each person that wanted to play it at my house, or does this game support any sort of multiple users in one cartridge/purchase?

I assume the worst, but I figure it doesn't hurt to ask...
If you download the game onto the 3DS through the Nintendo eshop, then you can switch out SD cards for each individual player (you'll have to download it onto each SD card, but that doesn't cost extra). The catch is that you'd have to buy SD cards then instead of Pokemon cartridges.


#164

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

A cheap SD card vs a $40 game. Awesome!
Let's see ... $40 for Pokemon, then you'll need like a 4 gig SD card per person, times seventy-eight sons ...


#165

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Holy crap pokerus makes regular ev training vs hordes SO MUCH FASTER than super training.


#166

Dei

Dei

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#167

Far

Far

People are gonna have to to breed me some perfect IV mons, because I have shit all to transfer over.

Also, you guys need to hurry up and beat the elite 4. So I can get more pokemon at the friend safari.
I did last night. Mind letting me know what my code gives?


#168

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I did last night. Mind letting me know what my code gives?
You are electric and give Pikachu, Dedenne, and ... not sure about the third one, because that's all I'm seeing. It looks like we've never been online at the same time, maybe that has to happen for it to update.


#169

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, it seems like female pokemon still pass on their ability the majority of the time, -however- this generation, males WITH A HIDDEN ABILITY can still pass it on. I've tested this with the event speed-boost torchic, which were all male, by breeding it with a ditto. It's produced 4 eggs so far, 1 female with blaze, 1 male with blaze, 1 female with speed boost, and 1 male with speed boost.


#170

Far

Far

I think to get the third we both need to be on at the same time and then have one of us visit the safari. I kinda got shafted on what I give.


#171

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I think to get the third we both need to be on at the same time and then have one of us visit the safari. I kinda got shafted on what I give.
Hey, even if you give common pokemon (and you totally do) you do still provide the ability to catch those pokemon with hidden abilities.

Also, I found a light orb on one of your pikachus.


#172

Dei

Dei

I beat the champion as well, we need to be online in sync though.


#173

Zappit

Zappit

Thanks to the GTS, I've finally gathered all the starters. Now I gotta breed them, and clean up in trades.


#174

Dei

Dei

Far said:
I did last night. Mind letting me know what my code gives?
What's your trainer name again? You give something different to everyone.


#175

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

What's your trainer name again? You give something different to everyone.
Safari zone is labeled by DS friend name. Which confused me at first. He's listed as "Far"


#176

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
Safari zone is labeled by DS friend name. Which confused me at first. He's listed as "Far"
If by Far you mean "k" then yes.


#177

Far

Far

It's listed as k, yeah. I had an original 3ds that I sold to get an xl that would have been under far but thought I wiped it.

I was under the impression that what you gave was determined by your friend code and would be the same across everyone.


#178

Dei

Dei

Far said:
It's listed as k, yeah. I had an original 3ds that I sold to get an xl that would have been under far but thought I wiped it. I was under the impression that what you gave was determined by your friend code and would be the same across everyone.
For me you are Fire, with Magmar, Pyroar, and ???


#179

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

If by Far you mean "k" then yes.
Oh, yeah, it is K. I could have sworn the safari zone was by DS name, but looking now it looks like trainer name.

I can't keep track of all of your people, having different trainer, DS and forum names...


#180

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
Oh, yeah, it is K. I could have sworn the safari zone was by DS name, but looking now it looks like trainer name. I can't keep track of all of your people, having different trainer, DS and forum names...
It is DS name, his DS name is k. It's by DS name because you even have safaris for friends without the game.


#181

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

It is DS name, his DS name is k. It's by DS name because you even have safaris for friends without the game.
Well then who the hell is Far?

Ok, "K" is fire type for me, and gives magmar and pyroar.


#182

bhamv3

bhamv3

So, it seems like female pokemon still pass on their ability the majority of the time, -however- this generation, males WITH A HIDDEN ABILITY can still pass it on. I've tested this with the event speed-boost torchic, which were all male, by breeding it with a ditto. It's produced 4 eggs so far, 1 female with blaze, 1 male with blaze, 1 female with speed boost, and 1 male with speed boost.
Oh... oh god... Speed Boost Blaziken is awesomely sexy...

I need to nab one off you when I get the game. :D


#183

Far

Far

Well then who the hell is Far?

Ok, "K" is fire type for me, and gives magmar and pyroar.
Like I said. It's very possible you registered my first 3ds, which would have been named Far, before I sold it, and retained the friend code.


#184

Zappit

Zappit



#185

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Hello, summer 2007, you horrid abyss where all my time went.


#186

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Some people still haven't friended me back...



#187

Zappit

Zappit

I figure I'll only have to do about four breeding projects to get some decent new Monds for the stable. A few of my older genners can still compete.


#188

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
Some people still haven't friended me back...
Poe gives Quilladins at the Friend Safari! Friend him! ;)

(And Spring Sawbuck if you are into that kind of thing)


#189

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Poe gives Quilladins at the Friend Safari! Friend him! ;)

(And Spring Sawbuck if you are into that kind of thing)
What's my third one?


#190

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
What's my third one?
Well it's Pansage. But that was one of your first two.


#191

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Well it's Pansage. But that was one of your first two.
Ugh, grass monkey? No one likes those.


#192

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

IMPORTANT

Some of you probably know, there's a glitch that if you save in the streets in Lumiose City, there's a chance of being unable to load your game, forcing you to start over and lose your Pokemon.

A patch has been released today, so download it from the eshop whenever you can, or scan these QR codes with your 3DS camera:



#193

Zappit

Zappit

Throwing my friend code out there again - can anyone tell me what I give?

2320-7330-7836

Here's what I've found so far:

Hylian - Combee, Illumise
Evil Esc - Bibarel, Gyrados
Heatherling - Mawile, Forretress


#194

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Throwing my friend code out there again - can anyone tell me what I give?

2320-7330-7836
You are dark and give out Pawniard and Sneasel. If you've beaten the elite 4, I won't know your third until we're online at the same time.


#195

Zappit

Zappit

You are dark and give out Pawniard and Sneasel. If you've beaten the elite 4, I won't know your third until we're online at the same time.
Beat them today. Online now.


#196

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Beat them today. Online now.
Are you online in pokemon? It doesn't show you. What's your trainer name?


#197

Zappit

Zappit

Are you online in pokemon? It doesn't show you. What's your trainer name?
Zap. Reconnected. I should show now,


#198

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Alright, Absol is the third.


#199

Zappit

Zappit

Not bad. Trying to catch a Quilladin off yours right now, Poe.

Got it, and a Sawsbuck, too. Ran out of power before I could find the other.


#200

Dei

Dei

Poe, what do I haaaave


#201

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Hey guys, I'm at the town with the third gym!

And I didn't even do everything in that cave!

My wife and I are slooooooow.


#202

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Poe, what do I haaaave
You are rock and give out onix, boldore, and ? I guess I haven't been online at the same time as you since you beat the elite 4 (probably because of hearthstone >.>)


#203

Dei

Dei

Ravenpoe said:
You are rock and give out onix, boldore, and ? I guess I haven't been online at the same time as you since you beat the elite 4 (probably because of hearthstone >.>)
Except I can see all 3 of yours... And only saw 2 when I got there. :p


#204

Zappit

Zappit

Has anyone had any luck finding a friend code with ditto? I need me some perfect IV dittos!


#205

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I can't believe someone just Wonder Traded me a Ditto.


#206

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I toss dittos out on WT all the time. Along with just about every starter.


#207

Dei

Dei

Dittos aren't very hard to get.


#208

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Might do this in a future playthrough:



#209

Dei

Dei

Zero Esc said:
Might do this in a future playthrough:
Then you get 6 Zigzagzoons.


#210

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Then you get 6 Zigzagzoons.
Zigzagoons aren't too bad. Bidoofs are what I'd be afraid of.

Maybe a third playthrough. Second one will probably be a Nuzlocke.


#211

Dei

Dei

Based on my Wonder Trade history I think I'd get 6 Pansears.


#212

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I've been getting lucky today. Larvita, Ditto, Throh, Froakie, Chespin.


#213

bhamv3

bhamv3

I've been getting lucky today. Larvita, Ditto, Throh, Froakie, Chespin.
I assume you mean Larvitar there? If so, good catch.


#214

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I assume you mean Larvitar there? If so, good catch.
Sorry, I meant Larvesta. Still good.


#215

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Might do this in a future playthrough:

So, a team of all bidoofs and scatterbugs?


#216

Zappit

Zappit

Mawile, Diglett, Skiddo, Hawlucha, Furfrou, and Furfrou.

Almost a decent team.

Just traded a Furfrou for a Larvesta. Much better.


#217

bhamv3

bhamv3

Sorry, I meant Larvesta. Still good.
Yep, also an awesome poke!


#218



BErt

...I just got something called a pumpkaboo in a wonder trade, which immediately evolved and wanted to learn a billion moves. I'm not familiar with this gen at all yet but this thing is really cool. Happy Halloween?


#219

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

...I just got something called a pumpkaboo in a wonder trade, which immediately evolved and wanted to learn a billion moves. I'm not familiar with this gen at all yet but this thing is really cool. Happy Halloween?
The neat thing about pumpkaboo is that they come in different sizes, and the size does effect their stats.

That said, yeah, Gourgeist is a perfectly decent pokemon. Ghost/Grass is an interesting type combination.


#220

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Got a Spritzee and I'm forcing myself not to name her "Masky". I can do better than Sokka.


#221

Zappit

Zappit

Well, Wondertrade and the GTS are dead now. Reports are coming in from all over that people are getting Mystery Eggs through wifi trades. Apparently, the 3DS has finally been hacked, and traded hacked Pokemon show up in the box as a Mystery Egg, a devastating error worse than Bad Eggs. These reproduce in the box, corrupting and overwriting everything in that box. There is no way to get rid of them. They cannot be released, and some are claiming that the overwrite issue spreads to all your PC boxes, wiping out the entire PC storage.

If you get that egg, DO NOT SAVE. It will ruin your game!

Edit - Shit, don't trade at all! The save before wonder trading actually locks the new Pokemon into your game - that includes Mystery Eggs!

Edit - Double shit! Restarting your game with a new file doesn't get rid of the Mystery Egg. Nintendo needs to patch this, or shit will hit the fan tremendously hard. As for the assholes who unleashed this shitstorm by hacking the game's programming, I hope you get one of the worst cases of hemorrhoids in recorded human history. You've potentially ruined one of the most fun, social games Nintendo has ever produced.


#222

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Well, Wondertrade and the GTS are dead now. Reports are coming in from all over that people are getting Mystery Eggs through wifi trades. Apparently, the 3DS has finally been hacked, and traded hacked Pokemon show up in the box as a Mystery Egg, a devastating error worse than Bad Eggs. These reproduce in the box, corrupting and overwriting everything in that box. There is no way to get rid of them. They cannot be released, and some are claiming that the overwrite issue spreads to all your PC boxes, wiping out the entire PC storage.

If you get that egg, DO NOT SAVE. It will ruin your game!

Edit - shit, don't trade at all! The save before wonder trading actually locks the new Pokemon into your game - that includes Mystery Eggs!

This is why we can't have nice things


#223

Zappit

Zappit

More confirmation on how this is happening.

Unfortunately it seems that the mystery eggs from wonder trading aren't glitches. :[

Two weeks in, and people have managed to hack the game. Basically, people can use Wonder Trade and their internet to induce specific wonder trades. This allows them to give themselves pokemon, or send out pokemon via wonder trade, some times resulting in a bad egg.
Edit. This might not be a hacking case. The first documented instance of this happened three weeks ago on release day. It may be some sort of error related to the Internet data exchange during Wonder Trades. This could be a glitch. The GTS does not appear to be affected by this. It is also extremely rare, with few cases reported. But there could be folks who just haven't reported it...


#224

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Fucking hell.


#225

Zappit

Zappit

Game Freak will probably patch this, too. I just hope it doesn't affect things like the Pokemon Bank come December.


#226

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Game Freak will probably patch this, too. I just hope it doesn't affect things like the Pokemon Bank come December.
That would be horrifying.


#227

Zappit

Zappit

Okay, I've been researching the heck out of this, and I've found out some more information.

It's not hackers. There were reports that people were trying to manipulate their Internet connections to effectively clone their Pokemon, and that MIGHT have been related. The most likely theory is that midway through a Wonder Trade, the other person lost their connection - happening in the briefest of instances - and that corrupted the data in between the data checkers that occur during a WT. This explains why the GTS has been unaffected. The data is put online and traded in the GTS servers before being returned to the player's game. These mystery eggs reports total barely a handful, out of over 4 million games sold.

Wonder Trade is basically 99.9999999% safe, though. Smogon seems largely unconcerned.


#228

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Okay, I've been researching the heck out of this, and I've found out some more information.

It's not hackers. There were reports that people were trying to manipulate their Internet connections to effectively clone their Pokemon, and that MIGHT have been related. The most likely theory is that midway through a Wonder Trade, the other person lost their connection - happening in the briefest of instances - and that corrupted the data in between the data checkers that occur during a WT. This explains why the GTS has been unaffected. The data is put online and traded in the GTS servers before being returned to the player's game. These mystery eggs reports total barely a handful, out of over 4 million games sold.

Wonder Trade is basically 99.9999999% safe, though. Smogon seems largely unconcerned.
If they have the digital version and wished to clone their pokemon, couldn't they just copy their SD Card?


#229

Zappit

Zappit

The game save has an ID tag that gets linked to the 3DS, which prevents cloning by that method. Game Freak really covered their bases in combatting hacking this go around.


#230

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

The game save has an ID tag that gets linked to the 3DS, which prevents cloning by that method. Game Freak really covered their bases in combatting hacking this go around.
Does that mean multiple save files using multiple sd cards also wouldn't work, if I ever wanted to replay (and redownload) without wiping my current game?


#231

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Does that mean multiple save files using multiple sd cards also wouldn't work, if I ever wanted to replay (and redownload) without wiping my current game?
I don't see why. It's the same 3DS, same cartridge/eshop account.


#232

Zappit

Zappit

Does that mean multiple save files using multiple sd cards also wouldn't work, if I ever wanted to replay (and redownload) without wiping my current game?
Yep. One game, one save file.

Edit - Just finished my first breeding project, a five perfect IV Adamant Mawile with Intimidate. The mega form, after a single Swords Dance, can knock out most competitive Pokemon in one shot.


#233

bhamv3

bhamv3

Like I've said earlier, I don't have the game yet, but I was looking at some of the stats for Mega Evolution Pokemon on Bulbapedia, and... wow... are these guys as overpowered as I think they are?

Mewtwo's mega evolution, for example, can have base attacking stats of 190 or higher. Contrast that to the previous record holder, Deoxys-A, who has attacking stats of 180 and tissue paper defenses to compensate for it.

So... are Mega Evolutions basically an "I win" button?

EDIT: Holy crap I just realized Mega Gengar gets base 170 special attack (equal to Kyurem-White, from Generation 5), as well as the Shadow Tag ability. That's even scarier.


#234

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Like I've said earlier, I don't have the game yet, but I was looking at some of the stats for Mega Evolution Pokemon on Bulbapedia, and... wow... are these guys as overpowered as I think they are?

Mewtwo's mega evolution, for example, can have base attacking stats of 190 or higher. Contrast that to the previous record holder, Deoxys-A, who has attacking stats of 180 and tissue paper defenses to compensate for it.

So... are Mega Evolutions basically an "I win" button?

EDIT: Holy crap I just realized Mega Gengar gets base 170 special attack (equal to Kyurem-White, from Generation 5), as well as the Shadow Tag ability. That's even scarier.
I have a mega-gengar on my team. It's pretty nice, but you do have to watch out for earthquake, as gaining shadow tag (which is awesome) means you lose levitate.

Mega evolutions aren't an I-win button. You have to transform into the mega evolution (though it does have priority) and you also have to be holding the appropriate mega-stone, meaning you can't use an item on a pokemon you want to mega-evolve. You can also only mega evolve once in a battle, so you can't run two mega-evolutions together.

Because the mega-evolution is an activation, you can switch out before it takes place. If you see a gengar switch in, and you think it's going to mega-evolve and lock you in with shadow tag, then switch out to something that can handle it before it transforms.


#235

bhamv3

bhamv3

I have a mega-gengar on my team. It's pretty nice, but you do have to watch out for earthquake, as gaining shadow tag (which is awesome) means you lose levitate.

Mega evolutions aren't an I-win button. You have to transform into the mega evolution (though it does have priority) and you also have to be holding the appropriate mega-stone, meaning you can't use an item on a pokemon you want to mega-evolve. You can also only mega evolve once in a battle, so you can't run two mega-evolutions together.

Because the mega-evolution is an activation, you can switch out before it takes place. If you see a gengar switch in, and you think it's going to mega-evolve and lock you in with shadow tag, then switch out to something that can handle it before it transforms.
Good to know they're not unbeatable, but still... some of these guys are well scary.

Mega Heracross gets base 185 attack as well as Skill Link, and the moves Pin Missile and Bullet Seed. Couple it with a fighting type move, and this guy is basically unwallable. Mega Mawile has Huge Power, plus a base 105 attack stat. Mega Garchomp gets Sand Force, and base 170 attack, so he's even scarier when partnered with Tyranitar now. Speaking of whom, Mega Tyranitar is also scary, with base 164 attack, as well as incredible defensive stats. Mega Charizard Y gets Drought, which means Ninetails is probably obsolete now for sun teams.

These Pokemon would make me piss myself if I faced them in battle, or jizz in my pants if I get to use them. Either way, my trousers are not emerging unscathed.

God I want this game.


#236

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Good to know they're not unbeatable, but still... some of these guys are well scary.

Mega Heracross gets base 185 attack as well as Skill Link, and the moves Pin Missile and Bullet Seed. Couple it with a fighting type move, and this guy is basically unwallable. Mega Mawile has Huge Power, plus a base 105 attack stat. Mega Garchomp gets Sand Force, and base 170 attack, so he's even scarier when partnered with Tyranitar now. Speaking of whom, Mega Tyranitar is also scary, with base 164 attack, as well as incredible defensive stats. Mega Charizard Y gets Drought, which means Ninetails is probably obsolete now for sun teams.

These Pokemon would make me piss myself if I faced them in battle, or jizz in my pants if I get to use them. Either way, my trousers are not emerging unscathed.

God I want this game.
Weather has been nerfed this gen. Drought no longer causes endless sun, it's only sunshine for 5 turns. Ninetails is still the better choice for sun teams, because it doesn't require you to use up your mega evolution slot, and Mega Charizard Y's fire/flying combination still means it loses half its health to stealth rock.


#237

bhamv3

bhamv3

Oh. Never mind about Drought then. Though Mega Charizard Y gets base 159 special attack, so it's still pants-jizzingly powerful.


#238

Zappit

Zappit

Well, my second breeding project is turning out to be much more difficult than my first. I've managed to get the right combination of Timid and Protean on Froakie, but I've really had to hunt down some perfect IVs to fill things in.

Honestly, it's a good thing that the "baby" Pokemon come with three perfect IVs. I've been using some Mantines to boost up those perfect IV counts.


#239

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Well, my second breeding project is turning out to be much more difficult than my first. I've managed to get the right combination of Timid and Protean on Froakie, but I've really had to hunt down some perfect IVs to fill things in.

Honestly, it's a good thing that the "baby" Pokemon come with three perfect IVs. I've been using some Mantines to boost up those perfect IV counts.
It only took me a few hours to breed a perfect IV torchic (well, perfect in everything but special attack). Just get a friend with dittos in their safari zone. I went out, caught a ton of dittos, and was able to whittle them down to a handful that had 3 perfect IV's each


#240

Zappit

Zappit

Getting the Ditto friend code has been exceptionally hard. I just can't get one.


#241

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Getting the Ditto friend code has been exceptionally hard. I just can't get one.
I went to the smogon forums and found lots of people willing to help out with specific friend codes.


#242

Zappit

Zappit

I'm chasing a lead over there now. I should be able to find somebody at Smogon - I mean, I'm one of their artists!


#243

bhamv3

bhamv3

I'm chasing a lead over there now. I should be able to find somebody at Smogon - I mean, I'm one of their artists!
Wow, really? That's pretty cool, you being a Smogon artist. Awesome site. :)


#244

Zappit

Zappit

Got my Ditto FC!

This Froakie project of mine is a real pain in the ass. I've got the necessary ingredients - two parents with 4 perfect IVs each, the Everstone and the Destiny Knot, but it just won't give me that five perfect IV Froakie I'm after. Come on! The Mawile project took just half of an afternoon! I'm going on four days now!

Edit - Project Froakie is finally a success! However, I have a small pile of Froakies with four perfect IVs, most of them Timid with Protean. Anyone interested?


#245

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Update on the bad egg thing:

Turns out it was the person's 3DS or SD card. They purchased versions of both games and it happened consistently to that person. It's not a problem of a Pokemon glitch or the Wonder Trade.


#246

Zappit

Zappit

Thank God. That would have been the scariest bug in Pokemon's history.


#247

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Beat the Elite Four, Champion, and the parade. I don't know why they decided to cram most of the story between the 7th and 8th gyms. Black/White did a good job of spreading things out. There was pacing and ups and downs. This was kind of like ... nothing most of the way, then EVERYTHING, and then back to going to be champion, like it was an interlude. Pokemon games have done that before, but usually the stories aren't very good anyway. Black/White raised the bar. I wouldn't mind if this was just a crappy "Team conquer the world" story either, but the story and its background are actually pretty good. I don't know how it is in X, but in Y ...

Lysander feels Pokemon are too beautiful to exist in a world where humans will exploit them, so he's going to kill all the Pokemon.

That's fucked up. Then there's the stuff with AZ. I feel like this was a good story that was poorly told. It doesn't ruin the game for me, but I had come to expect more after 5th gen. Oh well.

Now time to pass my Pokemon over to my wife's file and restart with a Nuzlocke!


#248

Zappit

Zappit

In Y, the story goes...
Lysander is going to use Yvetal to power a super weapon originally created by AZ to annihilate most humanity and completely wipe out Pokemon to prevent overpopulation from eventually destroying the world. He makes the case that the world is beautiful, resources are getting more and more limited, and people are far too dependent on Pokemon.

I have a feeling that with the new Exp. Share, a Nuzlocke will be a lot easier this gen.


#249

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Y and X have the same; just different Legendaries. I wasn't sure if Xerneas made a difference, but my wife says no.

You can still die pretty easily even with the Exp Share, but it should make leveling up replacement Pokemon easier. Though right now I'm torn over whether I want to nix this playthrough. I mostly do, but I'm also having fun catching Pokemon again, which I'd largely given up on since I was going to restart after I beat the game anyway. I wish Game Freak hadn't keyed your Pokemon data to your 3DS so you can't just download the game on multiple SD cards, but I guess they did that so you can't have multiple save files without buying multiple copies of the game.


#250

Gusto

Gusto

I know y'all were doing a lot of breeding in this thread. Does anyone have a Squirtle and Bulbasaur for a friend of mine, that they wouldn't mind parting with?


#251

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I know y'all were doing a lot of breeding in this thread. Does anyone have a Squirtle and Bulbasaur for a friend of mine, that they wouldn't mind parting with?
I do. If you want to get on now I can trade you. Don't give me anything precious though; I'm going to be restarting my game in the near-future.

EDIT: Clarification, I have Squirtle. A level 36 male or a level 1 female.


#252

Gusto

Gusto

I do. If you want to get on now I can trade you. Don't give me anything precious though; I'm going to be restarting my game in the near-future.

EDIT: Clarification, I have Squirtle. A level 36 male or a level 1 female.
I'm online now. :)


#253

Dei

Dei

Gusto said:
I'm online now. :)
I can breed a Bulbasaur for you right now.


#254

Gusto

Gusto

I can breed a Bulbasaur for you right now.
That would be incredible!


#255

Dei

Dei

Doing laps around berry garden now.


#256

Gusto

Gusto

Thanks @Dei !


#257

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Traded my team, Yveltal, and some Pokes holding Mega Stones over to my wife's game.

Nuzlocke begin!


#258

Zappit

Zappit

Not working on a Squirtle or Bulbasaur right now, but I should have some usable Marill with Belly Drum and Aqua Jet. Time a Drum right, and he can wipe out entire teams...


#259

Zappit

Zappit

Project Azumarill provided a pleasant surprise - a perfect IV Marill! I just need to save up battle points for an ability capsule, but my beast will be even better than planned.

Now, thanks to a rather amazing streak of luck acquiring high IV Gibles, one with Rough Skin, I can start building my next brute, a Jolly Garchomp.


#260

bhamv3

bhamv3

Eeeeeeee I might be getting my hands on a 3DS and Pokemon X tonight! Eeeeeeee!!

I'm gonna be Pokemoning soon! Eeeeeeee! :D:D:D


#261

Zappit

Zappit

Good, because I'm going to hook you up with a free, insta-competitive, 5IV Jolly Larvitar.


#262

Zappit

Zappit

Interesting developments.

After not encountering a shiny since Gen 2, I've acquired two in as many days. I managed to breed a 5IV shiny Larvitar (not in Sp Def, though - agh!) and I caught a shiny Nincada in the Safari.

Been trading with Smogon folks, putting my Maison/online team together. Just need to start EV training. Gotta get some more battle points, and then I'm off horde-hunting!


#263

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I feel like I've cooled on this Pokemon game as fast as I have with others and I was expecting to cling to it more. Really wishing I'd bought the physical copy now since you can't back up your game, meaning I keep it on my SD card or lose what I have. The Nuzlocke for this is kind of a joke--the game is too easy compared to its predecessors.

I love the online conveniences, the new graphics--it's a great Pokemon game. But I feel they took a couple steps back from Black/White and I'm drifting back to Shin Megami Tensei games now that I've finished Pokemon Y only one time. I'm on my 5th playthrough of Devil Survivor.

This normally happens with Pokemon games. I'll play hardcore for the first month or two after a game comes out, and then lose interest in it for a while. I guess I expected it to be different this time.


#264

Zappit

Zappit

Eh, I'm feeling more into it than the last three gens. Breeding has become so accessible this go around that I can actually get the builds I wanted to create in the past. It's a hell of a lot easier, and I plan on diving into online battles once I put a nice stable together.


#265

bhamv3

bhamv3

Ok! Got the game, fired it up, so far so good! I can only play during my commute though, so I haven't gotten very far yet.

Also, a brief browse at Bulbapedia tells me that the Pokemon you get in this game follow a more balanced difficulty curve than in BW2. In Black 2, within the first few towns, I could get my hands on Riolu, Sewaddle, Magnetite, Drilbur, etc. All of these have kick-ass final evolutions (well, ok, Leavanny's merely decent instead of awesome), which meant I could pretty much use them through the whole game. In Pokemon X though, I'm hard pressed to find any Pokes in the first seven routes with attacking stats that are higher than base 100. I foresee training up Pokes as I go, and swapping them out as I catch better ones. Croagunk on Route 7 looks like a good candidate.


#266

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Ok! Got the game, fired it up, so far so good! I can only play during my commute though, so I haven't gotten very far yet.

Also, a brief browse at Bulbapedia tells me that the Pokemon you get in this game follow a more balanced difficulty curve than in BW2. In Black 2, within the first few towns, I could get my hands on Riolu, Sewaddle, Magnetite, Drilbur, etc. All of these have kick-ass final evolutions (well, ok, Leavanny's merely decent instead of awesome), which meant I could pretty much use them through the whole game. In Pokemon X though, I'm hard pressed to find any Pokes in the first seven routes with attacking stats that are higher than base 100. I foresee training up Pokes as I go, and swapping them out as I catch better ones. Croagunk on Route 7 looks like a good candidate.

Fletchling appears in the very first areas you start in, and eventually evolves into Talonflame, one of the strongest pokemon of this generation.


#267

bhamv3

bhamv3

Fletchling appears in the very first areas you start in, and eventually evolves into Talonflame, one of the strongest pokemon of this generation.
Really?

*checks Bulbapedia*

It's fast but has 81 base attack and 74 base special attack. Am I missing something here? Because that's mediocre at best...


#268

Far

Far

...I like pikachu.


#269

Zappit

Zappit

Really?

*checks Bulbapedia*

It's fast but has 81 base attack and 74 base special attack. Am I missing something here? Because that's mediocre at best...
It gets Flare Blitz and Acrobatics, two incredibly strong moves. It also has Flame Body, which can burn an opponent after a physical attack, or Gale Wings, which makes flying moves (including Roost) priority moves basically guaranteed to go first.

Smogon has a wealth of analysis on the new Pokes in their forums; you should check that out.


#270

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

It gets Flare Blitz and Acrobatics, two incredibly strong moves. It also has Flame Body, which can burn an opponent after a physical attack, or Gale Wings, which makes flying moves (including Roost) priority moves basically guaranteed to go first.

Smogon has a wealth of analysis on the new Pokes in their forums; you should check that out.
Don't forget Brave Bird. Thing is a monster of a sweeper.


#271

bhamv3

bhamv3

Hmm, ok, well I have Fennekin as my starter, so I'm not as inclined to have another fire type on my team, but I suppose Talonflame's worth at least trying.

And I'm starting to regret not taking Froakie. Greninja looks like a pretty solid water type.


#272

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Hmm, ok, well I have Fennekin as my starter, so I'm not as inclined to have another fire type on my team, but I suppose Talonflame's worth at least trying.

And I'm starting to regret not taking Froakie. Greninja looks like a pretty solid water type.
I can give you a protean froakie


#273

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So, can anyone hook me up with a solar power charmander/charmeleon/charizard? I've had no luck trying to catch one out of the friend safari, and GTS has not helped me at all (I really wish you could see pokemon ability in those trades).

I can breed up a protean froakie, a speed boost torchic or a chlorophyll bulbasaur in return (or lots of other stuff if you need something specific).


#274

Zappit

Zappit

Are you building a Megazard Y? If so, the ability does change right after evolving - it gets Drought.

That's actually the next breeding project I'm working on - got very lucky and got a Charmander with Dragon Pulse, which is a tricky egg move to breed. Plus, I'm going to be trading for a Timid 5IV one as well. If that's your endgame, I can breed up an extra one for you.


#275

bhamv3

bhamv3

My friend code: 2122-6975-0690


#276

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Are you building a Megazard Y? If so, the ability does change right after evolving - it gets Drought.

That's actually the next breeding project I'm working on - got very lucky and got a Charmander with Dragon Pulse, which is a tricky egg move to breed. Plus, I'm going to be trading for a Timid 5IV one as well. If that's your endgame, I can breed up an extra one for you.
I know the ability changes. I'm building a sun team and have a ninetails for drought. The Charizard will be benefitting from solar power if he gets to come out while the sun is still out, and can then mega evolve if he needs to refresh it.


#277

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Ok, I no longer need solar power. I was able to borrow one from a friend, and now I have managed to breed a 5IV solar power modest charmander just waiting to be able to wreck shit.

I now have a dought ninetails, a megacharizard y ready to get training, and am currently breeding a chlorophyll bulbasaur. I might throw in a harvest treverant just to abuse sun as much as possible, and a rapid spinner to keep stealth rocks from killing my charizard, but I foresee gyrados being a problem, since I don't have any way to deal with a water/flying at current. Maybe a donphan, who can also carry ice moves for dragons. I've also got a 5 IV speed boost blaziken sitting in the wings, I might swap him in for something.

Anyone have any suggestions? This is the first time I've really put together a themed team.


#278

Zappit

Zappit

Hmm. You should have something with Thunder. Rain teams are sure to still be around, and Thunder hits 100% of the time in rain. It also helps take out those pesky Rotom Ws. Gyrados also gets knocked out in one shot from most Thunder hits.

Keep in mind dragons are weak to dragons, and Charizard can learn Dragon Pulse as an egg move. Donphan ice attacks won't be strong enough to take out real threats. Excadrill makes a much better spinner, since he's fast and hits like a truck.


#279

bhamv3

bhamv3

So I figured out how to use Wonder Trade (I know, I know, it's not exactly hard) and as a test, I sent out a Pidgey and Zigzagoon. Got a Charmeleon and a Froakie back. :eek:

Neither of them have their hidden abilities, but still... Wonder Trade is awesome. :D


#280

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So I figured out how to use Wonder Trade (I know, I know, it's not exactly hard) and as a test, I sent out a Pidgey and Zigzagoon. Got a Charmeleon and a Froakie back. :eek:

Neither of them have their hidden abilities, but still... Wonder Trade is awesome. :D
I throw starters out on wonder trade all the time. I end up with tons of them from breeding, and usually decide to send out a few before releasing the rest.


#281

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight



#282

Zappit

Zappit

Wondertrade is seriously the best thing to happen to the series in years. You really can get anything there. The GTS is just a cesspool of pure greed.


#283

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Wondertrade is seriously the best thing to happen to the series in years. You really can get anything there. The GTS is just a cesspool of pure greed.

I've gotten some good stuff from the GTS, but only by offering a pokemon and asking for what I want in return. Trying to browse the stuff for trade is crazy if you don't want to trade a legendary for an eevee.


Also, Sun Team Update:

So far I've got ninetails (for drought support), a solarpowered charizard Y (abusing solar power while sun is out, and mega-evolving if he needs to bring it out himself), a chlorophyll venusaur, a rapid spinning mold breaker excadrill, and a sitris berry holding harvest Trevenant. The last slot is one I'm debating on. The idea behind a sun team seems pretty offensive based, so I could add in a dragonite for further power, or a greninja for U-Turn, spikes (which treverant can spinblock), and ice beam for dragons, or a rotom-W to help handle gyrados and talonflame.


#284

bhamv3

bhamv3

If you're running a sun team, you'd probably really hate for a rain inducer to come in and ruin your day, so I suggest a Pokemon capable of punching holes in opposing rain teams. To that end, Rotom-W seems like the best bet.


#285

bhamv3

bhamv3

Poe gave me a Protean Froakie, which I anticipate will do lots of damage to lots of unfortunate enemies. Poe rocks. :D

Huh, also got a Charmander with Dragon Dance over Wonder Trade. I'll take it!


#286

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

My pokemon breeding puppy mill is now in full operation. I have several dittos with at least 3 perfect IV's each (and one with 4!) as well as a ditto of EVERY nature.

Every last one caught by me, because goddamn people want crazy shit for dittos on the GTS.

I really don't want to admit just how long this took.

Adamant, one of the most popular natures, seemed to be the rarest to get, the RNG gods just were not kind to me. I ended up using an adamant Mr Mime to breed an adamant Abra with synchronize, and used it to catch an adamant ditto.


#287

Zappit

Zappit

And you know most of the Ditto on GTS are the Pokemon Village ones.


#288

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

And you know most of the Ditto on GTS are the Pokemon Village ones.
Oh, of course they are. Greedy bastards. But it's ok, I have a friend code from a random guy on a webforum I never visit!


So, I have good news and bad news, twice.

Good news! I just managed to accidentally breed my first ever 6 perfect IV pokemon! Bad news, it's a rotom, which can only breed with dittos. So I can't use it in my puppy mill.

Good news! I found my first shiny EVER! (and yet I've contracted pokerus twice!)

Bad news, it was a shiny zangoose in a horde of serviper.

The snakes killed it before I could kill the snakes :(


#289

Zappit

Zappit

So, I have good news and bad news, twice.

Good news! I just managed to accidentally breed my first ever 6 perfect IV pokemon! Bad news, it's a rotom, which can only breed with dittos. So I can't use it in my puppy mill.
Dude, that's not easy. That's a perfect competitive Pokemon, and a very versatile one at that. Hell, I've got two 5IV Larvitars pumping out eggs constantly, and I've yet to get a perfect. A 5IV shiny, yes, but not perfect.

I've actually bred two perfects, myself - an Adamant Marill and a Jolly Gible...not exactly ones that can take full advantage of that.


#290

bhamv3

bhamv3

Jolly Garchomp could surely see some use?


#291

Zappit

Zappit

Jolly Garchomp could surely see some use?
Oh, they're both going into my competitive team, it's just that neither can really function as a mixed attacker. I do believe I'll just have to wait for Pokebank and port over my perfect IV Jolly Larvitar then.


#292

bhamv3

bhamv3

What if you put Draco Meteor on Garchomp? The surprise factor might get you a kill or two.


#293

Zappit

Zappit

I suppose I could put Fire Blast on it - Garchomp can't learn Draco-Meteor.


#294

bhamv3

bhamv3

Oh. Bulbapedia says there a tutor on Route 21 that teaches Draco Meteor, is it wrong?


#295

Zappit

Zappit

Holy moley, you're right!


#296

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Dude, that's not easy. That's a perfect competitive Pokemon, and a very versatile one at that. Hell, I've got two 5IV Larvitars pumping out eggs constantly, and I've yet to get a perfect. A 5IV shiny, yes, but not perfect.

I've actually bred two perfects, myself - an Adamant Marill and a Jolly Gible...not exactly ones that can take full advantage of that.
Oh, I'm not going to look a perfect IV pokemon in the mouth, but it would still be nice if it was one that could breed and spread that genetic wealth around. I don't seem to have much trouble creating 5IV pokemon with my ditto mill. I've managed a 5IV Venusaur, Charizard, and Blaziken so far, and haven't been bothered to take the time to make more.

Everyone keeps telling me that weather teams are dead this generation. To that, I say ha! I'll show them!

(no, I probably won't, but I'll try)


#297

Zappit

Zappit

I've been pushing out Larvitar, Gible, and just started an Axew project. I really want raw power for an offensive team.


#298

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Once my sun team is ready to go, my next goal is six level 100 zigzagoons. I'm not even going to let them evolve, they will remain zigzagoons.


And then I will go pickup fishing for leftovers (and other items)


#299

Zappit

Zappit

Wow. Twenty minutes into the Axew project, I got the spread, nature, and ability I wanted. Nice.


#300

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Wow. Twenty minutes into the Axew project, I got the spread, nature, and ability I wanted. Nice.
I'm pretty sure you know this, but I've been surprised by how many people don't, so I'll just make sure.

You can use O-powers on yourself.


#301

Zappit

Zappit

I'm pretty sure you know this, but I've been surprised by how many people don't, so I'll just make sure.

You can use O-powers on yourself.
People don't know that? Huh.


#302

bhamv3

bhamv3

Oh god, just got a Drought Vulpix on Wonder Trade.

I feel like I'm using up all my karma on Wonder Trade. I keep sending out crap Pokemon while getting awesome stuff in return.


#303

Zappit

Zappit

Oh god, just got a Drought Vulpix on Wonder Trade.

I feel like I'm using up all my karma on Wonder Trade. I keep sending out crap Pokemon while getting awesome stuff in return.
Breeders dump their spitbacks on Wondertrade because it's just less of a loss than releasing them. Nowadays, it's not unheard of to empty a box of 3/4IV Pokes on Wondertrade. I've done it multiple times, even throwing out flawed 5IV dudes.

It seems the best time to hit it is weekday nights. Lots of kiddies are on in the day and the weekends, throwing out piles of route 2 stuff. I don't begrudge them, but I kinda want a chance at getting a couple back that could jump start a breeding project of my own.


#304

bhamv3

bhamv3

Also, more people need to add me back in their friend list. :p

So far I've got Poe as a friend, and I've also added Zero Esc, Gusto, Dei, Far, Bert, Ashburner, and Zappit. :D


#305

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Oh god, just got a Drought Vulpix on Wonder Trade.

I feel like I'm using up all my karma on Wonder Trade. I keep sending out crap Pokemon while getting awesome stuff in return.
You could have asked me for one. :awesome:


BREED ALL THE POKES![DOUBLEPOST=1386653844,1386653793][/DOUBLEPOST]
Breeders dump their spitbacks on Wondertrade because it's just less of a loss than releasing them. Nowadays, it's not unheard of to empty a box of 3/4IV Pokes on Wondertrade. I've done it multiple times, even throwing out flawed 5IV dudes.

It seems the best time to hit it is weekday nights. Lots of kiddies are on in the day and the weekends, throwing out piles of route 2 stuff. I don't begrudge them, but I kinda want a chance at getting a couple back that could jump start a breeding project of my own.

I would release more of my breeding rejects on wonder trade if it was faster than throwing them one at a time an waiting for the trade. There needs to be like a grab bag to toss them into.


#306

Terrik

Terrik

I don't know whether to be happy or so sad that I no longer understand anything you guys are talking about.


#307

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I've been doing the restaurant battles to level pokemon and earn gold (so much gold) but I swear they're built to troll you as hard as they can.

I've been doing the rotation battles, and the gimmick is to win the most money, you have to win on a specific turn, usually turn six (these are 3v3 battles). So to get the best score, the killing blow has to be delivered on turn 6. Easy, right?

BUT EVERY ENEMY POKEMON HAS PROTECT :rage:


#308

Far

Far

Also, more people need to add me back in their friend list. :p

So far I've got Poe as a friend, and I've also added Zero Esc, Gusto, Dei, Far, Bert, Ashburner, and Zappit. :D
Sorry, I haven't played much since the beginning of November. Will add you over the next few days.


#309

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Also, more people need to add me back in their friend list. :p

So far I've got Poe as a friend, and I've also added Zero Esc, Gusto, Dei, Far, Bert, Ashburner, and Zappit. :D
Did you post your friend code?


#310

bhamv3

bhamv3

Did you post your friend code?
Previous page, yes.

My friend code: 2122-6975-0690


#311

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Previous page, yes.
Missed it; added you now.


#312

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I went ahead and added bhamv's friend code to the first post.


#313

Dei

Dei

I need to find my 3DS, then I will add you. I lost track of if after I finished Link Between Worlds.


#314

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I've got a whole box full of rotoms if anyone wants one before I toss them out on wondertrade.


#315

Zappit

Zappit

I've got a whole box full of rotoms if anyone wants one before I toss them out on wondertrade.
Hell, yeah!


#316

bhamv3

bhamv3

*raises hand* I'll take one!


#317

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Next time I see you online, they're yours. (both of you)


#318

Zappit

Zappit

Are we lucky enough that they're 5IV?


#319

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Are we lucky enough that they're 5IV?

Most of them are 3 or 4. I could breed a 5IV one if I wanted to be really generous, but I'm not :p

Actually, I'd be willing to do some breeding in exchange for cool stuff. What cool stuff? Make me an offer.



#321

bhamv3

bhamv3

Ooooo, just caught a Cubone with a Thick Club. I like Marowak, so I think I've got another member of my team now! :D


#322

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Ooooo, just caught a Cubone with a Thick Club. I like Marowak, so I think I've got another member of my team now! :D
I love cubone!

A shame its poor kangaskhan mother died, though.



#323

bhamv3

bhamv3

I've reached a point where the stuff I randomly get on Wonder Trade tends to not be better than the stuff I send out now. "Oh you gave me a Volbeat there? That's cool I guess, except I sent you an Onix, who is demonstrably more awesome..."

On the other hand, I managed to catch a Bagon on Route 8, so I plan on breeding a bunch and then sending them out on Wonder Trade. Sort of repaying the good karma I've enjoyed on it.


#324

Zappit

Zappit

I'm done breeding for now, and am EV training my team. When it comes time for that, http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/a-guide-to-ev-training-with-hordes.3490052/

This is so much faster than Super Training.


#325

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'm done breeding for now, and am EV training my team. When it comes time for that, http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/a-guide-to-ev-training-with-hordes.3490052/

This is so much faster than Super Training.
Oh yeah. I have all of the power items, it takes me like 10 minutes to fully ev train a pokemon from 0 to max.[DOUBLEPOST=1386867608,1386867573][/DOUBLEPOST]I can also provide pokerus to anyone that needs it.


#326

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Ok, what the hell?

I was grinding games in the battle maison for BP, and came up again an enemy Lapras. Mega Charizard Y uses solar beam... and misses. TWICE!

This move has 100% accuracy, and I wasn't under any effects of lowered accuracy. What could have caused this?


#327

Zappit

Zappit

The Lapras was holding a Brightpowder, which increases it evasiveness. 100% accuracy goes down.


#328

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

The Lapras was holding a Brightpowder, which increases it evasiveness. 100% accuracy goes down.
Well, that's more hax then all the damn confusion the battle maison trainers run.

Fun fact, what's the chance of hurting yourself three times in a row under confusion? 100%.


#329

bhamv3

bhamv3

Huh, so my "send out Bagons on Wonder Trade for karma" plan worked exceptionally well. I now have a Rotom, a Goomy, a Dratini (pity it's not the Marvel Scale version), and a bunch of others I hadn't caught yet.

So... do I want a Salamence or a Dragonite on my in-game team... choices choices...


#330

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Huh, so my "send out Bagons on Wonder Trade for karma" plan worked exceptionally well. I now have a Rotom, a Goomy, a Dratini (pity it's not the Marvel Scale version), and a bunch of others I hadn't caught yet.

So... do I want a Salamence or a Dragonite on my in-game team... choices choices...
If you want a dragonite, I have marvel scale dratinis...


#331

bhamv3

bhamv3

If you want a dragonite, I have marvel scale dratinis...
I'll take one! :D


#332

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'll take one! :D
I'll need to breed one out, want any specific nature?


#333

bhamv3

bhamv3

I'll need to breed one out, want any specific nature?
Adamant, I suppose. Marvel Scale Dragonite makes a wonderful Dragon Dancer, so Jolly probably isn't necessary.


#334

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Adamant, I suppose. Marvel Scale Dragonite makes a wonderful Dragon Dancer, so Jolly probably isn't necessary.
I'mma hook you up.


#335

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Adamant, I suppose. Marvel Scale Dragonite makes a wonderful Dragon Dancer, so Jolly probably isn't necessary.
Alright, I have one adamant, marvel scale, 5IV dratini ready to go for you.


#336

bhamv3

bhamv3

Oooo, I'm online now!


#337

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Oooo, I'm online now!
Logging in now


#338

bhamv3

bhamv3

Poe gives his Pokemon the best nicknames. :D


#339

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Poe gives his Pokemon the best nicknames. :D
You must play this before sending him out



#340

Zappit

Zappit

Routes 14 and 19, why you gotta rain all the damn time at the same damn time? I need my attack EV hordes!


#341

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Routes 14 and 19, why you gotta rain all the damn time at the same damn time? I need my attack EV hordes!
Scraggy's on route 5 also give attack EV's, though aren't as super common as bellsprouts and weepinbells, though. They appear alongside gulpins for hp, though.[DOUBLEPOST=1386969378,1386969331][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh, also trevenents in the maze place before pokemon village, they give attack ev's and it never rains there.


#342

Zappit

Zappit

I saw my third shiny this gen - a Zangoose that appeared in a horde with four Sevipers.

I have no shiny Zangoose. :(


#343

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I saw my third shiny this gen - a Zangoose that appeared in a horde with four Sevipers.

I have no shiny Zangoose. :(
You and me both, buddy.


#344

Zappit

Zappit

Worst thing is, I was EV training, and that desperate grab to get the shiny threw my progress off. I can fill out the rest, but I'm not popping Reset Bags in the Super Training screen. I'm taking a new approach now, trying to crossbreed some EV reducing berries. I only need one type, so it shouldn't be that hard to get it.

I'm not in any hurry - things will really get fun when the Pokebank opens at the end of the month.


#345

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Worst thing is, I was EV training, and that desperate grab to get the shiny threw my progress off. I can fill out the rest, but I'm not popping Reset Bags in the Super Training screen. I'm taking a new approach now, trying to crossbreed some EV reducing berries. I only need one type, so it shouldn't be that hard to get it.

I'm not in any hurry - things will really get fun when the Pokebank opens at the end of the month.
Unless you don't have the power items (or pokerus, in which case I can send you an infectious mon), I'd just pop the reset bag. EV training only takes like ten minutes.


#346

Zappit

Zappit

Got Pokerus, and the Macho Brace, but ran out of Reset Bags, and they're just not showing up when I hit the blank bag on that screen. That's all.


#347

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Ok, so I got my sun team prepared. Tell me what you guys think of this. I've never built competitive battle teams before, so I don't know shit about teambuilding.

Spoilered for length (that's what she said)

Rotom-W, calm (special defense) nature with leftovers

HP and special def evs.

will-o-wisp, thunder wave, volt switch and hydro pump.

I usually lead with this guy. He doesn't really fit the sun theme I was going for, but I wanted a strong special tank that could switch in to take hard water and other special hits, as well as act as a status inflictor. Will-O-Wisp is there to take the punch out of physical attackers (and makes him able to tank them pretty well as well) while thunder wave is there for pokemon that can't be burned, as well as speed demons that need to be slowed, while hydropump is there to give him some offensive oomph. Volt switch is of course a great stab attack, and since rotom is a bit slow, allows him to absorb a hit and then switch in to another pokemon for free.

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Ninetails, Drought with a Heat Rock, Timid Nature (speed)
Max speed ev's, with a healthy dosing of HP and some special attack for seasoning.

Sunny Day, Will-O-Wisp, Fire Blast and Toxic

My sun setter. Sunny Day is there to help confirm that sun stays up, able to counter a rain dance or refresh the sun in the strange even that Ninetails remains in long enough for the sun to set. I don't expect her to last very long, she's mainly there to switch in when possible, and maybe poison or burn a pokemon along the way, while packing a powerful fire blast to avoid being made useless by taunt.

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Excadrill, Moldbreaker with Adamant (attack) nature, holding an air balloon. (EVs currently uncertain)

Rapid Spin, Earthquake, Rock Slide and Swords Dance

The other pokemon that doesn't really fit the sun theme, he's here purely because I needed a rapid spinner. Truth be told, I'm at a bit of a loss what to use him for other than that. He does have a nice electricity and poison immunity, as well as being able to switch in to take an earthquake for free up until his air balloon gets popped. Other than that, I've given him earthquake to use as a powerful stab attack, rock slide is there in case he gets stuck against a flying type (levitate won't stop him thanks to moldbreaker), and swords dance is there so that maybe he can pose a serious threat if he goes unchecked? This guy doesn't really inspire me all that much, I'm thinking about replacing him, maybe with a defogger since I don't run any hazards myself.

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Now for the pokemon I built this team around:

Venusaur, Chlorophyll with Life Orb, Timid (special attack) nature.
Special attack and speed ev's.

Growth, Giga Drain, Sludge Bomb and Sleep Powder.

This thing is an absolute beast. Under the sun, he's incredibly fast, and with life orb hits like a truck. Ideally, he'll come in when he's able to set up a growth, which gives him +2 to special attack if the sun is still out, with giga drain acting as his primary attack (which also negates the life lost through the life orb). Sludge bomb is his other super powerful stab attack, and obliterates fairies while covering the types that resist grass. Sleep powder is there to help secure a kill, set up a chance to use growth, or just give him a fighting chance if the sun is about to set, because his speed isn't that great outside of the sun (unless the foe is paralyzed, of course).

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Mega Charizard Y, modest with a charizardite Y, Solar Powered ability (though Drought when mega evolved)
Special attack and speed ev's.

Heat Wave, Solar Beam, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast (or maybe roost?)

Two special sweepers? Why not. Mega Charizard Y doesn't need any setup under the sun, able to obliterate near everything with heatwave, while one-turn solar beams make short work of any water types that might try to oppose him, and focus blast is there for those super tanky normals. Dragon Pulse rounds out his type coverage, giving him an effective answer to dragons. If he can come in while the sun is still out, Solar Powered will still allow him to sweep with impressive power, while still keeping the ability to mega evolve to bring the sun back out if it sets. Because solar power is going to be sapping his health, I might replace focus blast with roost, but he's pretty fragile as is, so it might not make much difference.

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Trevenant, Impish behavior with Sitrus Berry, Harvest ability
Def and HP ev's with some attack thrown in to give him punch.

Leech Seed, Will-O-Wisp, Horn Leech and Shadow Claw.

I fucking love this thing. He acts as my physical defensive tank. Will-O-Wisp is there to make physical attackers even more useless while providing annoying, constant damage, and leech seed is always annoying while adding to his survivability. Horn Leech is a pretty powerful stab physical attack, with shadow claw for stab and type coverage. With leech seed and burn up, he's able to attack with horn leech and regain tons of health each turn, while also chipping away at tough opponents. Harvest gives him a 50% chance to recover his sitrus berry every turn, giving him even more health regen, and during sunlight that becomes a 100% chance. With his health regen and strong defense, he can even tank some super effective physical moves, with Rotom-W hopefully available to switch in and absorb any super effective special attacks sent his way.

That's it, and turned much longer than I expected. Thoughts? Suggestions?


#348

bhamv3

bhamv3

You know how you have a Rotom-W to ruin the day of opposing rain teams? If your Excadrill had Sand Force or Sand Rush, it could serve a similar purpose for opposing sand teams.

An online damage calculator tells me an adamant Sand Rush Excadrill with maxed attack IVs and EVs has a 93.8% chance to OHKO an opposing Tyranitar who has maxed HP and defense IVs but no EV investment—which is a reasonable assumption, considering a lot of Tyranitars are geared for attack—with Earthquake. If you pack Sand Force, you're probably looking at a guaranteed OHKO.

Hippowdon is iffier, since they tend to be built quite bulkily, so you're probably looking at a 2HKO at best, probably 3HKO. Still, though, if your opponent's running sand, then you bring in Excadrill and start punching holes in his pokemon.


#349

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You know how you have a Rotom-W to ruin the day of opposing rain teams? If your Excadrill had Sand Force or Sand Rush, it could serve a similar purpose for opposing sand teams.

An online damage calculator tells me an adamant Sand Rush Excadrill with maxed attack IVs and EVs has a 93.8% chance to OHKO an opposing Tyranitar who has maxed HP and defense IVs but no EV investment—which is a reasonable assumption, considering a lot of Tyranitars are geared for attack—with Earthquake. If you pack Sand Force, you're probably looking at a guaranteed OHKO.

Hippowdon is iffier, since they tend to be built quite bulkily, so you're probably looking at a 2HKO at best, probably 3HKO. Still, though, if your opponent's running sand, then you bring in Excadrill and start punching holes in his pokemon.
That's not a bad idea. He rarely gets much use out of his moldbreaker. But I still think I might replace excadrill. Maybe it'll grow on me, but so far I just don't like him that much.


#350

bhamv3

bhamv3

Also, how'd you get an Excadrill anyway? Bulbapedia says it's not available this gen yet.


#351

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Also, how'd you get an Excadrill anyway? Bulbapedia says it's not available this gen yet.
Excadrill is available in ground-type friend safaris. Drilbur is not, though you can of course just breed Excadrill to get one.[DOUBLEPOST=1387179555,1387179425][/DOUBLEPOST]I've found Bulbapedia to be very inaccurate so far this gen, while Serebii tends to be updated far faster.


#352

bhamv3

bhamv3

... you wouldn't happen to have an adamant Drilbur or Excadrill just burning a hole in one of your boxes?


#353

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

... you wouldn't happen to have an adamant Drilbur or Excadrill just burning a hole in one of your boxes?
I've got tons.

Unfortunately I don't have any that are max IV bred. Like I said, Excadrill didn't excite me much, so I'm using some imperfect ones while still deciding what to do with them.


#354

bhamv3

bhamv3

I'll take one with imperfect IVs. I'm mainly playing in-game, instead of battling competitively, so it won't affect me much.

I only ask that you give it a cool nickname. :D


#355

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I have a female sand rush drilbur named Ms. Resetti if that works for you :p


#356

bhamv3

bhamv3

I have a female sand rush drilbur named Ms. Resetti if that works for you :p
I'll take her!


#357

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'll take her!
I'm just about to go to bed, but hit me up sometime tomorrow.


#358

Zappit

Zappit

The game must have taken pity on me for that shiny Zangoose bullshit, because I just caught a shiny Ledyba that popped up in my berry trees.

Shit, that last independent clause did not sound masculine at all.


#359

bhamv3

bhamv3

Now you get to show off your shiny Ledian in competitive battles!

EDIT: I think I'm jealous. :(


#360

bhamv3

bhamv3

So... who do you guys like better, Excadrill or Garchomp?


#361

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So... who do you guys like better, Excadrill or Garchomp?
That depends on what role they're filling.


#362

bhamv3

bhamv3

In-game ground-type physical attacker. :p


#363

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

In-game ground-type physical attacker. :p

So just singleplayer? Whichever you want. I'd go garchomp, because he has a mega evolution. Also, he's a ground shark, nothing else matters.

Ground shark.

Also, name it Kaiju.


#364

bhamv3

bhamv3

So just singleplayer? Whichever you want. I'd go garchomp, because he has a mega evolution. Also, he's a ground shark, nothing else matters.

Ground shark.

Also, name it Kaiju.
Yeah, I'm just getting through the single-player at the moment. Maybe later I'll breed up some pokes for competitive battling.

Also, Kaiju is an excellent idea!


#365

Zappit

Zappit

According to today's Nintendo Direct, everyone who used the Pokemon Bank gets a free Celebi. Sweet!


#366

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Kind of wish I hadn't restarted Pokemon Y; just not feeling this Nuzlocke.

Maybe went the transfer comes out I'll just make babies of whatever I want and play through like that.


#367

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

According to today's Nintendo Direct, everyone who used the Pokemon Bank gets a free Celebi. Sweet!
Wait, is the pokemon bank available yet?


#368

Zappit

Zappit

End of the month.


#369

bhamv3

bhamv3

I probably won't be using it. Not a fan of the subscription fee.

Celebi is nice, though...


#370

Zappit

Zappit

I probably won't be using it. Not a fan of the subscription fee.

Celebi is nice, though...
First thirty days is free. I think you still get the Celebi, too.


#371

bhamv3

bhamv3

First thirty days is free. I think you still get the Celebi, too.
Oooo, I shall look into it some more.


#372

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Well fuck... where did my lucky egg go?

Did I trade it? Did I release a pokemon with it? There really needs to be a confirmation when canning a pokemon with an item.

...

Now I need to find someone with a chansey friend safari.


#373

Enresshou

Enresshou

Slowly building up a competitive team...have a perfect IV Aegislash, now working on breeding a perfect Goodra.


#374

Zappit

Zappit

Slowly building up a competitive team...have a perfect IV Aegislash, now working on breeding a perfect Goodra.
What's your planned line-up?


#375

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Slowly building up a competitive team...have a perfect IV Aegislash, now working on breeding a perfect Goodra.
Why don't we have your friend code? We needs it, and you need to adds us, for the safaris!

Also, I'm happy to offer my breeding services.

...

Feel free to add any inuendo you like, I don't care.


#376

bhamv3

bhamv3

So I just caught Xerneas.

It's Jolly.

Well this is one legendary Pokemon that's never seeing the light of day again.


#377

Zappit

Zappit

The Battle Maison is a bitch. I cleared the first singles challenge pretty easily, but I've got max speed EV Mons getting outspend by almost everything. My Azumarill is going to be an absolute monster once I build up to that Ability Capsule, and I need to put Grass Knot on my Greninja.

Planning on running it hard with this team:

Greninja - Timid
Ability - Protean
Grass Knot
Ice Beam
Dark Pulse
Scald

Charizard Y - Modest
Ability - Blaze
Solarbeam
Fire Blast
Focus Blast
Dragon Pulse

Garchomp - Jolly
Ability - Rough Skin
Crunch
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw

My downfall my first couple runs was a lack of items, lack of Grass Knot, and the horrific self-injury rate of confusion.

Damnit, I want those 100 and 200 win streak berries! They can make an item that's a double Rare Candy.


#378

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

My Azumarill is going to be an absolute monster once I build up to that Ability Capsule
If you don't want to spend 200BP on an ability capsule, you could ask me to breed you one. I even have an adamant 5IV bellydrum/aqua jet azumarill with huge power ready to go.[DOUBLEPOST=1387579894,1387579589][/DOUBLEPOST]In fact, I'll offer it up for a choice band, which is much cheaper than an ability capsule.


#379

Zappit

Zappit

Sorry, Poe. Had a strong run and got a Capsule after tweaking the team. I'm set. But, if you need a Choice Band, one quick run would net enough BP for that.


#380

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Sorry, Poe. Had a strong run and got a Capsule after tweaking the team. I'm set. But, if you need a Choice Band, one quick run would net enough BP for that.
Oh, I can get the bp myself. I just have lots of items to buy, and had a spare azumarill laying around.


#381

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I managed to catch a shiny smeargle! Downside is it has a terrible nature (relaxed)


#382

Zappit

Zappit

I managed to catch a shiny smeargle! Downside is it has a terrible nature (relaxed)
Any wild shiny is going to be terrible. It's in the thrill of the catch!


#383

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Any wild shiny is going to be terrible. It's in the thrill of the catch!
Well, it's a safari zone catch, so it had the chance to be halfway decent. Smeargle doesn't really need a ton of perfect IV's to be good, but terrible speed will definitely hurt it.

(of course, I already have 3 perfect Smeargles, so maybe I shouldn't be greedy...)


#384

bhamv3

bhamv3

I got a head start on this today by breeding up a few Deinos, naming them all MerryXmas, and sending them out on wonder trade. Didn't get anything interesting back, but it felt nice.

Think I'm going to breed a few Larvitars next.


#385

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

It's too bad Nintendo's servers are being utter sacks of shit today.


#386

Zappit

Zappit

Pokebank hit Japan today, and hacked Pokemon are apparently pouring in. It's blocking some in online play, but not all.

Its release in America has been changed to TBD, and it appears it was shut down in Japan to help alleviate server issues.


#387

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Pokebank hit Japan today, and hacked Pokemon are apparently pouring in. It's blocking some in online play, but not all.

Its release in America has been changed to TBD, and it appears it was shut down in Japan to help alleviate server issues.
I'm pretty sure it hit on christmas eve, because that's when I saw previous generation pokemon begin to appear on the gts.


#388

Zappit

Zappit

So Nintendo is saying we will get Pokebank tomorrow. It's Japan that's being held back?

Edit: Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2393/~/pokémon-bank-announcement


#389

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

The Pokebank icon on the NA eshop says 3DS Download Only, but then Available at your local retailer.

I wonder if they're leaving it up because they still intend to do the release soon.


#390

Zappit

Zappit

I think they're just waiting a few days, or a week, to let all those new IDs get registered. It sounds like Nintendo sold a lot more hardware than they anticipated. They might take another swing at detecting hacked Pokemon, too. Who knows?


#391

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I think they're just waiting a few days, or a week, to let all those new IDs get registered. It sounds like Nintendo sold a lot more hardware than they anticipated. They might take another swing at detecting hacked Pokemon, too. Who knows?
Well, if they're going to wait, they might as well give it a shot. The trouble is that if you hack one on a GBA game and upload it to 4th gen, 5th gen, 6th gen, I doubt they're going to have stuff in place to detect a hack through all those transfers since the uploads are essentially just replicating the various stats of the Pokemon. So long as the hacks stay within possible stats, Nintendo can't catch them all.

I'm glad they sold so much hardware--it'll mean bigger chance of better games in 2014 for Wii U. 2013 was an awesome 3DS year and I'd like to see the home console get some more love. Right now it's pretty much my Wind Waker machine/SNES.


#392

Zappit

Zappit

If they can get it to just allow legal Pokemon, (possible move sets/stats) that would be enough. Clones don't matter.


#393

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

If they can get it to just allow legal Pokemon, (possible move sets/stats) that would be enough. Clones don't matter.
Oh yeah, as long as the stats and moves are legal, I couldn't care less about clones. Even though it does devalue all of my hard work breeding perfect Pokemon.


#394

Zappit

Zappit

Oh yeah, as long as the stats and moves are legal, I could care less about clones. Even though it does devalue all of my hard work breeding perfect Pokemon.
You can't hack the new species. Build up that stable, and you'll have good trade value.

Also, picked up a Wonder Trade Chimchar with Iron Fist. Male, so I can't take full advantage of it for a breeding project...yet.


#395

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You can't hack the new species. Build up that stable, and you'll have good trade value.

Also, picked up a Wonder Trade Chimchar with Iron Fist. Male, so I can't take full advantage of it for a breeding project...yet.
You know, if you want to let me borrow that for just a little bit...


#396

Zappit

Zappit

You know, if you want to let me borrow that for just a little bit...
If you've got an idea of your own, sure. Go online and I'll send him over.


#397

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

If you've got an idea of your own, sure. Go online and I'll send him over.
I'll have a much better specimen to return to you soon. Also, why no game chat?


#398

Zappit

Zappit

Never enabled Game Chat. Never knew it even had it...


#399

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Never enabled Game Chat. Never knew it even had it...
I recommend it, very nice to be able to talk to the people you're trading with or battling.


#400

bhamv3

bhamv3

Heh, just did a Wonder Trade with some guy named "my lawyer."

"Sending Abra to my lawyer!
Bye bye, Abra!"


#401

Zappit

Zappit

Pokebank. Live. Now!

You get your Celebi the second time you use it, it seems. Use the Pokemon Link in the opening X/Y menu to claim your PB freebies.


#402

figmentPez

figmentPez

Pokebank. Live. Now!
Oh, it happened. The way people talked about it's delays I was sure it's completion would be a sign of the A-poke-lypse.


#403

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Pokebank?


WOOOOOOSH! Away I gooooooo!


#404

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Time for my first rated battle, against what is probably a Japanese middle schooler.

We'll see how I do.

EDIT: Forgot to give Venusaurite to my Venusaur. Fuuuck.

EDIT EDIT: Well, that didn't take long.


#405

Zappit

Zappit

Been testing what is likely to be my final team on the Smogon Battle Simulator, (great tool) and it's been pretty dang good so far. I might have to replace the Scizor, though. He just isn't pulling his weight, which is a shame. It's one of my all-time favorite Pokemon.


#406

GasBandit

GasBandit



#407

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

You son of a bitch.

Here's the actual preview:



Of course, it's nothing we haven't seen anyway since Groudon and Kyogre can be seen in 3D in X/Y.


#408

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Groudon and Kyogre are getting Mega evolutions, if the box art is any indication. Legenaries with Mega evolutions sounds broken as fuck.

Regardless, I just picked up X and transferred everything I've had since Gen 3 to X or the Pokebank. This means I don't need to get Ruby and can get Sapphire this time around.

Thoughts on X? Leveling seems much more even now. I'm about to get my 8th badge and my entire team is 65-75. I don't know if this is because XP Share is so much better this time around or if it's just because they leveled things more appropriately. Hell, most of my Hall of Famers from Ruby didn't break 60 and I still need to do Victory Road and the Elite 4.


#409

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Groudon and Kyogre are getting Mega evolutions, if the box art is any indication. Legenaries with Mega evolutions sounds broken as fuck.

Regardless, I just picked up X and transferred everything I've had since Gen 3 to X or the Pokebank. This means I don't need to get Ruby and can get Sapphire this time around.

Thoughts on X? Leveling seems much more even now. I'm about to get my 8th badge and my entire team is 65-75. I don't know if this is because XP Share is so much better this time around or if it's just because they leveled things more appropriately. Hell, most of my Hall of Famers from Ruby didn't break 60 and I still need to do Victory Road and the Elite 4.
It's both. The new Exp Share makes it so the whole team gets it evenly spread, and the amount of experience gained from wild battles and trainers is balanced so that you don't have to grind, so long as you don't run away from the fights you do get into. It also helps that captures give experience now.

I really should try a Nuzlocke of Pokemon Y. I gave up on it because I thought it would be too easy, but I could be wrong. That, or just wait for the new games.


#410

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

As someone that spends a of time leveling new pokemon, I really like the battle restaurants, since you can just do those to get pokemon up to level 50+ instead of fighting the elite 4 over and over


#411

Zappit

Zappit

Been doing random online battles, and there are a surprising number of people who are just not prepared for a Metagross. I built it to be an anti-fairy stall breaker, but he's been doing solid work against everything, even though he doesn't even have an item at the moment. I've really only been losing to teams overloaded with Legendaries.


#412

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Been doing random online battles, and there are a surprising number of people who are just not prepared for a Metagross. I built it to be an anti-fairy stall breaker, but he's been doing solid work against everything, even though he doesn't even have an item at the moment. I've really only been losing to teams overloaded with Legendaries.
Metagross is sorta like Garchomp in that it's actually a fair bit stronger than you'd think, due to good typing and move selection. Now Garchomp took a hit thanks to the Fairy rush, but Metagross is still pretty boss because Psychic and Steel are still great types.

I'm still working my way through the post-story bits and walking to the last Gym and Victory road. Current team:

- Clawitzer (Zoidberg): Surprisingly decent thanks to Mega Launcher (Pulse moves dmg +) and a high Special Attack. Dark Pulse and Water Pulse are staying, but I'll have to get rid of Cut and Surf eventually.
- Garchomp: Amazing stats all around, good moves, and good typing. Even does well against Fairies!
- Magnezone: This is my anti-Earthquake machine. Lock-On + Zap Cannon means anything that is weak to electricity is dead in two turns. Everything else is Paralyzed 100% of the time. Immune to Elec? Flash Cannon works just fine.
- Serperior (Smugleaf): Staller. Leech seed, Toxic, Coil, and Leaf Blade. I dump toxic and leech seed on, then proceed to coil until I'm taking only minor damage. After that it's time to cut some grass.
- Gengar (Gaspar): My Mega evolution. Thanks to his high speed, the idea is to dump toxic on a guy and use Venoshock to finish them off, use Destiny Bond for a free kill, or Shadow Ball them to death. Works well.
- Unfezant: My Flyer. I use Swagger to confuse and then fly to avoid hits.

On the Bench:
- Darmanitan: His time is coming. Thanks to his special ability, I can use his Flare Blitz for MASSIVE DAMAGE as I trade the burn effect for extra attack power. Usually 1HKOs anything he hits. Will probably replace Unfezant for the Elite 4 battles.


#413

Zappit

Zappit

So this game WILL NOT be patched for the release of the ORAS games' new Megas, forcing everyone into Hoenn. I've been going through my boxes, picking and choosing who gets a trip via Pokebank. I've got a decent number of competition-ready builds, but I need a small bit of help. I'm trying to build my stall Porygon 2, but I need someone to trade with. This won't be some free favor. I'm offering a Timid Rotom with perfect IVs for this.


#414

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So this game WILL NOT be patched for the release of the ORAS games' new Megas, forcing everyone into Hoenn. I've been going through my boxes, picking and choosing who gets a trip via Pokebank. I've got a decent number of competition-ready builds, but I need a small bit of help. I'm trying to build my stall Porygon 2, but I need someone to trade with. This won't be some free favor. I'm offering a Timid Rotom with perfect IVs for this.
I think I have your friend code. I'll hop on now, feel free to trade. No need for payment, I even already have a perfect Rotom, but I won't turn down another.


#415

Zappit

Zappit

I think I have your friend code. I'll hop on now, feel free to trade. No need for payment, I even already have a perfect Rotom, but I won't turn down another.
I'll get on now.


#416

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

err, just a minute, gotta update


#417

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

So this game WILL NOT be patched for the release of the ORAS games' new Megas, forcing everyone into Hoenn. I've been going through my boxes, picking and choosing who gets a trip via Pokebank. I've got a decent number of competition-ready builds, but I need a small bit of help. I'm trying to build my stall Porygon 2, but I need someone to trade with. This won't be some free favor. I'm offering a Timid Rotom with perfect IVs for this.
I can get on and do the trade.

EDIT: Nevermind, ninja'd :p.


#418

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

No voice chat? You don't want to hear my dulcet tones?


#419

Zappit

Zappit

Thank you!

Nah, no voice chat. I generally always keep the sound turned off, especially when other family members are trying to sleep. ;)


#420

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I didn't have it learn any of its upgrade moves. I assume you're swimming in heart scales anyway.


#421

Zappit

Zappit

It's a defensive build. Toxic, Recover, and BoltBeam coverage. Don't need scales for that.


#422

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'm just gonna treat this as a general Pokemon thread. New games drop in a week, and while there are the expected legendaries from the original Ruby and Sapphire, there's a shit-ton of others as well:



Pretty much if you've missed anything from Diamond/Pearl forward, aside from the box art ones (Palkia/Dialga, Ho-Oh/Lugia, Reshiram/Zekrom) you'll be able to catch it for your Pokedex in this game. And of course, X/Y have the gen 1 legendary birds and Mewtwo.

I was going to just buy the cartridge for this game so I could sell it in a year when the next Pokemon game comes out, but this looks like it's going to be the definitive game for gen 6 and I'd rather download it so I don't have to wonder where it is if I have Persona Q or Mega Man Zero Collection in my cartridge slot.

Also, for those who haven't played the demo, moving around is a lot more fluid in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire. Whereas X/Y movement was either slippy on the skates or jerky on foot, OR/AS has full all-directional movement when walking around ... you know, like a real modern video game. It's refreshing and is going to make it difficult to go back to X/Y's weird semi-tank state.


#423

Zappit

Zappit

Saw that yesterday. That is an insane amount of Legendaries.

The demo does give me a good feeling about the Hoenn remakes. It was my least favorite region, but it does look very nice rendered in the 3D engine.


#424

bhamv3

bhamv3

Wow, that really does look like basically every legendary except the box art ones.

Time to recapture the legendary gerbils!


#425

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

This will be my first time with Hoenn (where I actually finish it) and I'm looking forward to it.


#426

Zappit

Zappit

Tomorrow...


#427

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Tomorrow...
Fuck tomorrow. One hour, six minutes.


#428

Dei

Dei

Can't pick up my pile of preorders till midnight. I can wait till morning. /lazy


#429

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I went ahead and updated the thread title. I didn't update it very well.


#430

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Can't pick up my pile of preorders till midnight. I can wait till morning. /lazy
Got a couple of download codes waiting at Gamestop for my cousins ... they can wait too.

Popped into the eshop on my wife's and my 3DS's; started downloading immediately. Refreshing experience compared to Smash Bros last month.


#431

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Laughing my ass off in the first 2 seconds of the game.


You so funny, Nintendo.


#432

bhamv3

bhamv3

Laughing my ass off in the first 2 seconds of the game.


You so funny, Nintendo.
... I don't get it.


#433

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

... I don't get it.
I don't either, that's how Ruby/Sapphire's supposed to look!

*I think it's the retro graphics.


#434

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

That's what you see as the start of the new games; i.e. no improvement. Then there's a twist!

Your character is fiddling with some handheld electronic, using it to talk to Professor Birch and use the map, and it has the same graphic capability as the Gameboy Advance.


#435

Zappit

Zappit

Don't forget to do the Mystery Gift - it's a shiny Beldum with a Mega Stone.


#436

Zappit

Zappit

Apparently, you can find about half the mega stones before the endgame, and you can now find them at any point in the day. Neat! Big improvement there.


#437

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

On the legendary front--in addition to all those legendaries listed earlier, the box cover ones are also in this game; they're just version exclusives. Ruby gets Ho-Oh, Palkia, Reshiram, and of course Groudon, while Sapphire gets Lugia, Dialga, Zekrom, and Kyogre.

Everything in-game legendary is here except the gen 1 and gen 6 legendaries.


#438

Zappit

Zappit

So, I think I'm going to wait to take on the Elite 4. There's a not-so-rare game freeze glitch that can occur right after you complete the game, and in some cases, it's bad enough to wreck the save. It's basically the new Luminose City glitch, but far more difficult to avoid. The patch comes out early December, so it's not a long wait, at least.


#439

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'm waiting too ... that's totally why I'm still not to Lavaridge.


#440

bhamv3

bhamv3

So, I got Omega Ruby. Figured out how the DexNav worked. And now I'm obsessively scouring Petalburg Woods, looking for a Shroomish with its hidden ability, so that I can get a Technician Breloom.

Maybe I should just settle for Effect Spore.


#441

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Breloom is such an underrated Pokemon. I love it.


#442

bhamv3

bhamv3

Breloom is such an underrated Pokemon. I love it.
Technician Breloom with Mach Punch and Bullet Seed is so sexy... it's basically saying to your opponent, "I'm going to hit you, and there's nothing you can do about it."


#443

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I've been using the DexNav to chain shinies. Got a shiny Wurmple on chain 55, got a shiny Numel on chain 20.


#444

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Hall of Fame glitch patch is up.


#445

bhamv3

bhamv3

Okay, either a lot of people named their Zigzagoon "Thomas", or I'm constantly receiving the same Zigzagoon again and again on Wonder Trade.


#446

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Okay, either a lot of people named their Zigzagoon "Thomas", or I'm constantly receiving the same Zigzagoon again and again on Wonder Trade.
All I keep getting are Ralts. No one Wonder Trades anything of value except on Christmas Day, where you can usually count on some people putting out starters or other favorite, low level pokemon.


#447

bhamv3

bhamv3

All I keep getting are Ralts. No one Wonder Trades anything of value except on Christmas Day, where you can usually count on some people putting out starters or other favorite, low level pokemon.
I've gotten some interesting Wonder Trades so far. Got a Bagon, which I'm pondering breeding and then adding to my in-game team. Also got a Fletchling, though unfortunately it doesn't have its hidden ability. Oh, and a Bidoof with its hidden ability Moody, which might be fun to abuse.


#448

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I've gotten some interesting Wonder Trades so far. Got a Bagon, which I'm pondering breeding and then adding to my in-game team. Also got a Fletchling, though unfortunately it doesn't have its hidden ability. Oh, and a Bidoof with its hidden ability Moody, which might be fun to abuse.
You could always farm BP and buy an Ability Capsule to switch that Fletchling's ability.


#449

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You could always farm BP and buy an Ability Capsule to switch that Fletchling's ability.
I don't know if it's different from how it was in X/Y, but in X/Y ability capsule could not give a pokemon their hidden ability.


#450

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Meh... it was worth a shot.


#451

Dei

Dei

I am reminded that I wish there was a game where you could do contests or gym battles, and then the game splits objectives depending on your final goal. The other path could be a fun side quest for you if you want to try to do both in one game, but I always loved the idea of pokemon contests. :p


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#452

bhamv3

bhamv3

Hey, uh, how many of you guys have Pokemon Bank? How often do you use it? Do you feel it's worth it?

I kinda, sorta, desperately want to use some of my XY pokes in my OR game, but it costs money and I really don't want to spend that money and oh god...


#453

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Hey, uh, how many of you guys have Pokemon Bank? How often do you use it? Do you feel it's worth it?

I kinda, sorta, desperately want to use some of my XY pokes in my OR game, but it costs money and I really don't want to spend that money and oh god...
It's 5 dollars for an entire year. I'd say it's worth it just to transfer stuff from one game to the next, especially if you have nostalgic ones you want to keep or IV trained ones for competitive play.


#454

Zappit

Zappit

It doesn't let you move items, though. You still have to trade those Pokemon over the traditional way to move items.


#455

bhamv3

bhamv3

Ended up using the GTS to transfer my most wanted pokes. Now I can breed Larvesta again!


#456

Zappit

Zappit

Ended up using the GTS to transfer my most wanted pokes. Now I can breed Larvesta again!
Now that's BALLSY.


#457

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Now that's BALLSY.
No kidding. That's kind of scary.


#458

bhamv3

bhamv3

Not really.

First I go on my OR game, offer up a Zigzagoon while requesting a Larvesta.

Next I go into my X game, search for my trade, and offer up my Larvesta. The Zigzagoon goes into my copy of X.

Finally, I go back into my OR copy, and retrieve Larvesta from the GTS.

Apart from me, no one in their right mind is going to take that trade. And if they do... well, yay, extra Larvesta. The key is to put the crappy poke up first, and request the good poke in exchange.

I bred a few modest Larvestas and threw them up on Wonder Trade. Volcaronas for everyone!


#459

Zappit

Zappit

Not really.

First I go on my OR game, offer up a Zigzagoon while requesting a Larvesta.

Next I go into my X game, search for my trade, and offer up my Larvesta. The Zigzagoon goes into my copy of X.

Finally, I go back into my OR copy, and retrieve Larvesta from the GTS.

Apart from me, no one in their right mind is going to take that trade. And if they do... well, yay, extra Larvesta. The key is to put the crappy poke up first, and request the good poke in exchange.

I bred a few modest Larvestas and threw them up on Wonder Trade. Volcaronas for everyone!
That approach actually is perfectly safe. Hmm, might have to try that to move my items over.


#460

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I would up the request to something that requires more work, like Larvesta's evolution. I'd trade a Larvesta for a Zigzagoon holding a master ball.


#461

bhamv3

bhamv3

I would up the request to something that requires more work, like Larvesta's evolution. I'd trade a Larvesta for a Zigzagoon holding a master ball.
Not really necessary though. If someone does snag the trade before me, all I've lost is a Zigzagoon. It did actually happen once or twice, I put up a crap pokemon and requested a Ditto, because I wanted to transfer my Dittos from X, and when I went into my X game I couldn't find the trade. Someone had traded me a Ditto in the 10 seconds it took me to switch games.


#462

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Not really necessary though. If someone does snag the trade before me, all I've lost is a Zigzagoon. It did actually happen once or twice, I put up a crap pokemon and requested a Ditto, because I wanted to transfer my Dittos from X, and when I went into my X game I couldn't find the trade. Someone had traded me a Ditto in the 10 seconds it took me to switch games.
He was talking about item trading, not your pokemon trading.


#463

bhamv3

bhamv3

He was talking about item trading, not your pokemon trading.
... now I'm confused.

Anyway, no matter, I can transfer pokes with GTS. I'm happy. I managed to transfer my Master Ball from X into my ORAS game too, so now I have two.

Maybe I'll finally go catch Mewtwo and send him over as well.


#464

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I think I've burned myself out on Pokemon for now. I blame myself for playing through Pokemon Y twice in my pre-release excitement for ORAS.


#465

Zappit

Zappit

Honestly, I just don't like Hoenn. Sure, it looks better in the new 3D engine, and Soar is kinda neat, but it just feels so bland compared to Kalos. As goofy as Team Flare was, they were a bit more inspired than Team Aqua/Magma.

Plus, the decision to lock out non-Hoenn Pokemon until the post game just kinda sucked, too. I've gotta clear out the Elite Four in Ruby, and I'm really just after a couple Mega Stones and the move tutors. If they just threw X/Y an update for the new Megas, I'd have been set. My copy of Ruby would have been nothing more than a move tutor venue. I'd greatly prefer to remain in Kalos. I've got about twenty fully trained Pokemon to build competitive teams with, so I'm pretty much set.

The next remakes should be Sinnoh, though. I did enjoy that region.


#466

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Hoenn certainly demands more out of the player than any other region in the series. Lots of backtracking, not much direction in what to do or where to go next, a great deal of HM juggling. Also, there are non-Hoenn Pokemon among the others, but I thought there used to be more.

I'm not forcing myself to get to the Elite Four though. Makes more sense to play something else until you're in the mood for Hoenn's stuff.


#467

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You know how starting with X/Y, they made all kinds of quality of life improvements to the mechanics? There's one more they need to do... get rid of HM's. They just force everyone playing through the game to use a 4-5 pokemon team, anyway.


#468

Dei

Dei

At the very least make HMs forgettable normally instead of needing to track down the move deleter.


#469

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Oh god, a million times this. It wouldn't be so bad if they were all as useful in battle as Surf, Fly, or Strength, but the fact that I can't ditch them easily means I'll always have a Pokemon I'm keeping around JUST as a mule.


#470

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Go Charizard! Go Zapdos! Go Gyrados!

Zigzagoon: hey, hey... Do you think maybe I could battle?

Fuck no, you get your ass back in that pokeball and you stay there until I need you to chop down a bush!


#471

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Go Charizard! Go Zapdos! Go Gyrados!

Zigzagoon: hey, hey... Do you think maybe I could battle?

Fuck no, you get your ass back in that pokeball and you stay there until I need you to chop down a bush!
I literally called my Clauncher Zoidberg for this reason.

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Poor guy. I need to switch him around to take advantage of his Mega Launcher ability now. Water Pulse and Dark Pulse are surprisingly good with the damage boost.


#472

bhamv3

bhamv3

There was a gameplay reason back in RBY for being unable to forget HM moves normally though. Moves such as Surf, Fly, Cut etc are necessary for navigating the game world. This meant that if you could forget HM moves easily, it would be possible (though admittedly very unlikely) that you could get yourself trapped in the game and be unable to continue.

For example, Fly/Surf to Cinnabar Island. Release every Pokemon that knows Fly and Surf, or have them forget them. Release every Pokemon that could ever learn these moves. Enjoy your now-permanent retirement on Cinnabar Island.

Of course, making HM moves unforgettable is a rather clunky way to get around this issue. I'm sure there are better ways, such as allowing HM moves to be forgotten normally, as long as you can access another Pokemon that has those moves (such as in your PC).

Alternatively, upgrade HM moves so that they're all viable in battle. Surf and Waterfall are considered good moves for competitive battling. Buff Cut and Rock Smash to do more damage. Make Fly and Dive one-turn moves. Up the damage of Strength to make it a viable alternative to Return.


#473

Dei

Dei

The thing is, HMs are never consumed on use, so you don't really even need that contingency.


#474

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Since HMs are acquired at story points, they could just as easily be Key Items. No moves, no mules--just items.


#475

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Since HMs are acquired at story points, they could just as easily be Key Items. No moves, no mules--just items.
Or, if they want to keep the flavor of pokemon doing things for you in the field, make HM's learnable to pokemon, but not usable in battle, and not taking up a move slot.


#476

bhamv3

bhamv3

There sure are a lot of Protean Froakies on Wonder Trade.

I mean, I'm not complaining, Protean Greninja is awesome. But I only need one, and I've encountered like six so far today.

Also, I managed to chain a shiny Shroomish. Traded it for a Heatran, now I want to see if I can trade it up again.

EDIT: Woo hoo, traded up for an Yveltal! Now let's see if anyone'll give me a Kyogre for this.


#477

bhamv3

bhamv3

I've decided that chaining for shinies is the equivalent of compulsive gambling.

"Yes, it's 2am already, and yes I need to work tomorrow, but I've managed to build my chain to 140 already! I'll just do one more, I'm sure the next one will be shiny... okay, not a shiny. Just one more then, I'll get a shiny on the next one. Okay, still no. All right, just one last one before I go to bed, I just know I'll hit the jackpot on this next one..."


#478

bhamv3

bhamv3

... I just got, off of Wonder Trade, a shiny timid Eevee with 6 perfect IVs.

I want to believe it's legit, but...


#479

Dei

Dei

What Pokemon traders are actually trading.

"Curiously, Wonder Trade Analytics has found that there are optimal times for Wonder Trading Pokémon—hours during which you're more likely to get something good in return for your Pokémon. Once 3am CST hits, you're more likely to find Pokémon with good stats, moves, and abilities. What happens at 3am CST? According to the data compiled, that's when Japan starts Wonder Trading, and apparently they're better about Wonder Trade etiquette than the rest of the world. Way to go, Japan!"


#480

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

What Pokemon traders are actually trading.

"Curiously, Wonder Trade Analytics has found that there are optimal times for Wonder Trading Pokémon—hours during which you're more likely to get something good in return for your Pokémon. Once 3am CST hits, you're more likely to find Pokémon with good stats, moves, and abilities. What happens at 3am CST? According to the data compiled, that's when Japan starts Wonder Trading, and apparently they're better about Wonder Trade etiquette than the rest of the world. Way to go, Japan!"
The best time to start wonder trading are when my breeding reject boxes get full.

4 perfect IVs? NOT GOOD ENOUGH!


#481

bhamv3

bhamv3

The best time to start wonder trading are when my breeding reject boxes get full.

4 perfect IVs? NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
Man, and here I am running around with pokes with max IVs in only attack and speed, and being perfectly content with them.

Also, I still don't know what to do with the 6IV shiny Eevee I got off wonder trade. This must be what it feels like to find a briefcase full of cash under a bridge.


#482

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Man, and here I am running around with pokes with max IVs in only attack and speed, and being perfectly content with them.

Also, I still don't know what to do with the 6IV shiny Eevee I got off wonder trade. This must be what it feels like to find a briefcase full of cash under a bridge.
That was my only complaint about the influx from poketransfer. Suddenly everyone's running around with all perfect iv shiny teams. It's like come on, you're not even trying to hide it.


#483

bhamv3

bhamv3

Oh look, a shiny modest Deoxys with maxed IVs from Wonder Trade. I wonder if that's legit. :rolleyes:


#484

bhamv3

bhamv3

So... I just pulled this off.
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#485

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Wow, nice.

What does the charm do?


#486

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Wow, nice.

What does the charm do?
It increases the chance of encounter shiny pokemon, as well as increasing the chance of breeding shiny pokemon.


#487

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Fancy.

I finished the main game of Omega Ruby a few weeks ago, haven't gotten around to playing that new mini-story yet. Also the champ's Mega-Evolved Metacross did not fuck around. Steel/Psychic is brutal. Thankfully my brother had a Gabite on his X game that he didn't need, because he turned into quite a beast.


#488

bhamv3

bhamv3

It increases the chance of encounter shiny pokemon, as well as increasing the chance of breeding shiny pokemon.
Yep. After getting the Shiny Charm, I snagged a shiny on, like, merely the 10th Pokemon of a Dexnav chain. Traded it for a Cresselia.


#489

Zappit

Zappit

Haven't played my copy of Omega Ruby in awhile. Really hooked on Monster Hunter now. ( Gotta slay 'em all!)

There's been a bunch of freebies the last couple months, though. The Unova starter final forms with hidden abilities are available until November via codes.

Pokemon479
Pokemon500
Pokemon503

The Johto starter final forms with hidden abilities are available if you've got Pokemon Bank. Those are also available until November, I think.


#490

bhamv3

bhamv3

The Johto starter final forms with hidden abilities are available if you've got Pokemon Bank. Those are also available until November, I think.
Hmm... Sheer Force Feraligatr and Flash Fire Typhlosion both sound interesting...


#491

bhamv3

bhamv3

Apparently Arceus was released at an event in Japan recently, so there's been a flood of Arceus on the GTS. A suspiciously large number of them are shiny.

Anyway, traded a Celebi for an Arceus. Now I just need to find some way to get another Celebi to replace the one I lost.


#492

grub

grub

I just noticed this thread and realized I can join in now.
Just beat Lysandre.

Friend Code: 1908-1442-4774


#493

Zappit

Zappit

Free Diancie through mystery gift, ending on the 27th. Pick up the Diancie in a Pokemon Center, and then go back in. When the guy comes in asking for it, answer, "Yes", and then you'll get its Mega Stone.


#494

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Free Diancie through mystery gift, ending on the 27th. Pick up the Diancie in a Pokemon Center, and then go back in. When the guy comes in asking for it, answer, "Yes", and then you'll get its Mega Stone.
Only for Omega and Alpha, I think. X and Y didn't get the last one.


#495

bhamv3

bhamv3

Hmm, now I have two Diancies.


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