[Handheld] Pokemon X/Y and Alpha Centari with Beta Ray Bill

Beat the Elite Four, Champion, and the parade. I don't know why they decided to cram most of the story between the 7th and 8th gyms. Black/White did a good job of spreading things out. There was pacing and ups and downs. This was kind of like ... nothing most of the way, then EVERYTHING, and then back to going to be champion, like it was an interlude. Pokemon games have done that before, but usually the stories aren't very good anyway. Black/White raised the bar. I wouldn't mind if this was just a crappy "Team conquer the world" story either, but the story and its background are actually pretty good. I don't know how it is in X, but in Y ...

Lysander feels Pokemon are too beautiful to exist in a world where humans will exploit them, so he's going to kill all the Pokemon.

That's fucked up. Then there's the stuff with AZ. I feel like this was a good story that was poorly told. It doesn't ruin the game for me, but I had come to expect more after 5th gen. Oh well.

Now time to pass my Pokemon over to my wife's file and restart with a Nuzlocke!
 

Zappit

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In Y, the story goes...
Lysander is going to use Yvetal to power a super weapon originally created by AZ to annihilate most humanity and completely wipe out Pokemon to prevent overpopulation from eventually destroying the world. He makes the case that the world is beautiful, resources are getting more and more limited, and people are far too dependent on Pokemon.

I have a feeling that with the new Exp. Share, a Nuzlocke will be a lot easier this gen.
 
Y and X have the same; just different Legendaries. I wasn't sure if Xerneas made a difference, but my wife says no.

You can still die pretty easily even with the Exp Share, but it should make leveling up replacement Pokemon easier. Though right now I'm torn over whether I want to nix this playthrough. I mostly do, but I'm also having fun catching Pokemon again, which I'd largely given up on since I was going to restart after I beat the game anyway. I wish Game Freak hadn't keyed your Pokemon data to your 3DS so you can't just download the game on multiple SD cards, but I guess they did that so you can't have multiple save files without buying multiple copies of the game.
 
I know y'all were doing a lot of breeding in this thread. Does anyone have a Squirtle and Bulbasaur for a friend of mine, that they wouldn't mind parting with?
 
I know y'all were doing a lot of breeding in this thread. Does anyone have a Squirtle and Bulbasaur for a friend of mine, that they wouldn't mind parting with?
I do. If you want to get on now I can trade you. Don't give me anything precious though; I'm going to be restarting my game in the near-future.

EDIT: Clarification, I have Squirtle. A level 36 male or a level 1 female.
 
I do. If you want to get on now I can trade you. Don't give me anything precious though; I'm going to be restarting my game in the near-future.

EDIT: Clarification, I have Squirtle. A level 36 male or a level 1 female.
I'm online now. :)
 

Zappit

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Not working on a Squirtle or Bulbasaur right now, but I should have some usable Marill with Belly Drum and Aqua Jet. Time a Drum right, and he can wipe out entire teams...
 

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Project Azumarill provided a pleasant surprise - a perfect IV Marill! I just need to save up battle points for an ability capsule, but my beast will be even better than planned.

Now, thanks to a rather amazing streak of luck acquiring high IV Gibles, one with Rough Skin, I can start building my next brute, a Jolly Garchomp.
 
Eeeeeeee I might be getting my hands on a 3DS and Pokemon X tonight! Eeeeeeee!!

I'm gonna be Pokemoning soon! Eeeeeeee! :D:D:D
 

Zappit

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Interesting developments.

After not encountering a shiny since Gen 2, I've acquired two in as many days. I managed to breed a 5IV shiny Larvitar (not in Sp Def, though - agh!) and I caught a shiny Nincada in the Safari.

Been trading with Smogon folks, putting my Maison/online team together. Just need to start EV training. Gotta get some more battle points, and then I'm off horde-hunting!
 
I feel like I've cooled on this Pokemon game as fast as I have with others and I was expecting to cling to it more. Really wishing I'd bought the physical copy now since you can't back up your game, meaning I keep it on my SD card or lose what I have. The Nuzlocke for this is kind of a joke--the game is too easy compared to its predecessors.

I love the online conveniences, the new graphics--it's a great Pokemon game. But I feel they took a couple steps back from Black/White and I'm drifting back to Shin Megami Tensei games now that I've finished Pokemon Y only one time. I'm on my 5th playthrough of Devil Survivor.

This normally happens with Pokemon games. I'll play hardcore for the first month or two after a game comes out, and then lose interest in it for a while. I guess I expected it to be different this time.
 

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Eh, I'm feeling more into it than the last three gens. Breeding has become so accessible this go around that I can actually get the builds I wanted to create in the past. It's a hell of a lot easier, and I plan on diving into online battles once I put a nice stable together.
 
Ok! Got the game, fired it up, so far so good! I can only play during my commute though, so I haven't gotten very far yet.

Also, a brief browse at Bulbapedia tells me that the Pokemon you get in this game follow a more balanced difficulty curve than in BW2. In Black 2, within the first few towns, I could get my hands on Riolu, Sewaddle, Magnetite, Drilbur, etc. All of these have kick-ass final evolutions (well, ok, Leavanny's merely decent instead of awesome), which meant I could pretty much use them through the whole game. In Pokemon X though, I'm hard pressed to find any Pokes in the first seven routes with attacking stats that are higher than base 100. I foresee training up Pokes as I go, and swapping them out as I catch better ones. Croagunk on Route 7 looks like a good candidate.
 
Ok! Got the game, fired it up, so far so good! I can only play during my commute though, so I haven't gotten very far yet.

Also, a brief browse at Bulbapedia tells me that the Pokemon you get in this game follow a more balanced difficulty curve than in BW2. In Black 2, within the first few towns, I could get my hands on Riolu, Sewaddle, Magnetite, Drilbur, etc. All of these have kick-ass final evolutions (well, ok, Leavanny's merely decent instead of awesome), which meant I could pretty much use them through the whole game. In Pokemon X though, I'm hard pressed to find any Pokes in the first seven routes with attacking stats that are higher than base 100. I foresee training up Pokes as I go, and swapping them out as I catch better ones. Croagunk on Route 7 looks like a good candidate.

Fletchling appears in the very first areas you start in, and eventually evolves into Talonflame, one of the strongest pokemon of this generation.
 
Fletchling appears in the very first areas you start in, and eventually evolves into Talonflame, one of the strongest pokemon of this generation.
Really?

*checks Bulbapedia*

It's fast but has 81 base attack and 74 base special attack. Am I missing something here? Because that's mediocre at best...
 

Zappit

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Really?

*checks Bulbapedia*

It's fast but has 81 base attack and 74 base special attack. Am I missing something here? Because that's mediocre at best...
It gets Flare Blitz and Acrobatics, two incredibly strong moves. It also has Flame Body, which can burn an opponent after a physical attack, or Gale Wings, which makes flying moves (including Roost) priority moves basically guaranteed to go first.

Smogon has a wealth of analysis on the new Pokes in their forums; you should check that out.
 
It gets Flare Blitz and Acrobatics, two incredibly strong moves. It also has Flame Body, which can burn an opponent after a physical attack, or Gale Wings, which makes flying moves (including Roost) priority moves basically guaranteed to go first.

Smogon has a wealth of analysis on the new Pokes in their forums; you should check that out.
Don't forget Brave Bird. Thing is a monster of a sweeper.
 
Hmm, ok, well I have Fennekin as my starter, so I'm not as inclined to have another fire type on my team, but I suppose Talonflame's worth at least trying.

And I'm starting to regret not taking Froakie. Greninja looks like a pretty solid water type.
 
Hmm, ok, well I have Fennekin as my starter, so I'm not as inclined to have another fire type on my team, but I suppose Talonflame's worth at least trying.

And I'm starting to regret not taking Froakie. Greninja looks like a pretty solid water type.
I can give you a protean froakie
 
So, can anyone hook me up with a solar power charmander/charmeleon/charizard? I've had no luck trying to catch one out of the friend safari, and GTS has not helped me at all (I really wish you could see pokemon ability in those trades).

I can breed up a protean froakie, a speed boost torchic or a chlorophyll bulbasaur in return (or lots of other stuff if you need something specific).
 

Zappit

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Are you building a Megazard Y? If so, the ability does change right after evolving - it gets Drought.

That's actually the next breeding project I'm working on - got very lucky and got a Charmander with Dragon Pulse, which is a tricky egg move to breed. Plus, I'm going to be trading for a Timid 5IV one as well. If that's your endgame, I can breed up an extra one for you.
 
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Are you building a Megazard Y? If so, the ability does change right after evolving - it gets Drought.

That's actually the next breeding project I'm working on - got very lucky and got a Charmander with Dragon Pulse, which is a tricky egg move to breed. Plus, I'm going to be trading for a Timid 5IV one as well. If that's your endgame, I can breed up an extra one for you.
I know the ability changes. I'm building a sun team and have a ninetails for drought. The Charizard will be benefitting from solar power if he gets to come out while the sun is still out, and can then mega evolve if he needs to refresh it.
 
Ok, I no longer need solar power. I was able to borrow one from a friend, and now I have managed to breed a 5IV solar power modest charmander just waiting to be able to wreck shit.

I now have a dought ninetails, a megacharizard y ready to get training, and am currently breeding a chlorophyll bulbasaur. I might throw in a harvest treverant just to abuse sun as much as possible, and a rapid spinner to keep stealth rocks from killing my charizard, but I foresee gyrados being a problem, since I don't have any way to deal with a water/flying at current. Maybe a donphan, who can also carry ice moves for dragons. I've also got a 5 IV speed boost blaziken sitting in the wings, I might swap him in for something.

Anyone have any suggestions? This is the first time I've really put together a themed team.
 

Zappit

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Hmm. You should have something with Thunder. Rain teams are sure to still be around, and Thunder hits 100% of the time in rain. It also helps take out those pesky Rotom Ws. Gyrados also gets knocked out in one shot from most Thunder hits.

Keep in mind dragons are weak to dragons, and Charizard can learn Dragon Pulse as an egg move. Donphan ice attacks won't be strong enough to take out real threats. Excadrill makes a much better spinner, since he's fast and hits like a truck.
 
So I figured out how to use Wonder Trade (I know, I know, it's not exactly hard) and as a test, I sent out a Pidgey and Zigzagoon. Got a Charmeleon and a Froakie back. :eek:

Neither of them have their hidden abilities, but still... Wonder Trade is awesome. :D
 
So I figured out how to use Wonder Trade (I know, I know, it's not exactly hard) and as a test, I sent out a Pidgey and Zigzagoon. Got a Charmeleon and a Froakie back. :eek:

Neither of them have their hidden abilities, but still... Wonder Trade is awesome. :D
I throw starters out on wonder trade all the time. I end up with tons of them from breeding, and usually decide to send out a few before releasing the rest.
 
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