Jaime needs Ash to build him a pre-industrial cyborg hand.
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I honestly don't mind his representation. You see all the great things he does in season 2 only to see him reduced to such a state where he's being pushed around and whatnot. It shows he's bound to snap eventually.
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The sword was Ice, Eddards Great Two Handed Sword. But I remember it as Jamie having it recast into two swords, one for him and one for The Maid of Tarth.
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Hmm. I think Joffrey got one and cut up the book Tyrion had gotten him for a wedding present. Jamie gave his sword to Brienne.
Yes that is more like it.
Tywin was always pissed that the one Valyrian sword in his family line was lost, and coveted them. Once he thought he essentially wiped out the Stark line he took the Stark's sword, and had it recast into two swords, planning to give one to his son and one to his grandson. Joffrey did indeed get his as a wedding gift and used it to cleave the rare book given to him by Tyrion. Jamie got one as well, but thought it was a farce, and gave it to Brienne so that she could use a Stark weapon to find the Stark children.
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In the books, wasn't it Jaime who turned down Cersei instead of the other way around? In the books, Jaime is the one that grew as a person while Cersei was still a spoiled, petulant bitch. In the show they had Jaime pining for her the whole time he was gone. What? Talk about changing the way the characters interact!
Jamie did pine for Cersei the whole time he was gone. Then he found out from Tyrion that she didn't pine for him in the same way, and was basically whoring herself around for political favors. That's when he started to become conflicted about Cersei. AFTER he got back. Remember how I mentioned that they must be removing the rather inappropriate sex scene that took place when Jamie returned *after* the wedding? Yeah, he wanted her bad before he found out the truth.
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Well, considering the internal struggle Jamie goes through that can't be conveyed through internal thought on television, I'm okay with him being at King's Landing this early.
Okay, guess no spoilers for the series, even this week's episode, but we still spoiler the books, even 5 years old and already shown in the show? Crazy people, here.
Anyway, that aside, what I never got was why they changed the
Anyway, that aside, what I never got was why they changed the
wildfire from being Tyrion's idea to Cersei's. It was horrible and inhumane, yes, but war always is. It was "Tyrion dares to use different techniques to completely destroy his enemies and do whatever it takes to be victorious - like his father with Castamere" - in the show it became "it's a horrible and unfair way to fight, only a woman could think of that! But we'll blame the little guy anyway!"
Whoa. I do NOT remember that.
I don't think the wildfire thing was taken away from Tyrion's character to lessen him but was done to increase Cersei's role in things. To add to her character. Something the show writers have done a lot of.
Yeah, the writers seem to be big fans of Cersei. I'm guessing they're going to ignore her many stupid decisions from book 4, i.e. "remove responsible person from position of power, sleep with eye candy, place eye candy in freed position of party, nothing goes right, rinse, repeat".
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I might need to do an 80 TV show intro of Arya and the Hound clips to this theme.
http://m.policymic.com/articles/86999/why-sansa-stark-is-the-strongest-character-on-game-of-thrones I don't think she's necessarily the strongest, but I do think she is one of the least stagnant characters, and I am waiting for the day she shoves Peter Baelish over a cliff.
That is my own personal wish, not a spoiler.
That is my own personal wish, not a spoiler.
I extolled her virtues the other week to @Squidleybits and was rewarded with a shoe.
I don't know. They handily forget to mention Kat at all: she's a different "strong woman" stereotype, and fairly feminine, I'd say. She's made mistakes, but to defend her honour and her family - much like Ned.http://m.policymic.com/articles/86999/why-sansa-stark-is-the-strongest-character-on-game-of-thrones I don't think she's necessarily the strongest, but I do think she is one of the least stagnant characters, and I am waiting for the day she shoves Peter Baelish over a cliff.
That is my own personal wish, not a spoiler.
The Sansa "hate" (I'm sure there are true haters out there, I have a mild dislike for her at most - now the Ironborn, those I hate
) is mostly because she's so utterly useless, especially in the beginning. Everyone manages to make a difference, to be the occasional player despite being pawn in someone else's game as well. Sansa is only acted on, used constantly by different forces around her. Her only actions are "soft" - not actively helping but imploring aid from others. She's the stereotype "useless damsel in distress", sitting there acting pretty, acquiescing for her life instead of standing up for her family.Of all the Starks, Sansa is in the *worst* possible position. She's a *13* year old girl (in the books at least), surrounded by no actual allies. I don't really know what people expect her to do. Until Tyrion comes back, she is beaten every day, and probably would have started being raped if Tyrion didn't return when he did. Arya is also in a shitty position sure, but she at least has allies.
However, they announced today that GoT has been renewed for seasons 5 and 6. I hope this means that the TV series is going to start breaking away from the books more, because otherwise it will become the shittiest TV of all time.
However, they announced today that GoT has been renewed for seasons 5 and 6. I hope this means that the TV series is going to start breaking away from the books more, because otherwise it will become the shittiest TV of all time.
I admit she's in the hardest situation - practically anything she did might have caused her to lose her head. Not even saying she had any other choice, really - but the situation and the story as told make her very passive and just-sitting-there-being-pretty. Certainly in the books, and certainly early on, she's easily won over, influencable, and annoying - yes, a typical 13 year old girl. Afterwards she can't do much, so she just stays where she is. What part of that makes her a "strong" female role model? She's everything wrong with typical "weak" female roles: passive, emotional, naive, "misled" by the evil queen. There are plenty of strong women in the books, and plenty of strong men. There are also weak men. There are also weaker women. Sansa is one of them, and she gets a lot of pages. No-one's claiming Theon's a male role model, are they?
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I never thought of Sansa as a terrible character. I didn't like her in the beginning, but that's because she was acting like a typical dumb kid, selfish and not knowing of what's going on around them. She gets hit by reality pretty damn hard, isolated and surrounded by enemies, and pretty much has a terrible life (which most people in the series seem to have). She's physically and mentally tortured, forced to feign loyalty to the 'king' that killed her family, and somehow manages to survive without throwing herself off a tower. Yes, outwardly it's a lot of doing nothing, but there's nothing she can do, and it's her restraint in just silently taking it that has allowed her to keep her head. If anything, I think it made her seem more like her mother, another strong character that has to take a lot of bad shit happening.
TIL Books 4 & 5 are filled with Bella Swans