Oh man, IM3 was way better than 2. 2 Stunk. 3 wasn't half as good as 1 though. Honestly Marvel really only has a few "Good" movies. They have quite a few that are "fine" or "competent" but they rarely are movies you need to go back and watch a couple times. IM1 was like that. I saw it twice in the theaters it was so good. I hear Cap2 may be like that as well.
[Movies] Talk about the last movie you saw 2: Electric Threadaloo
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How was it his fault Stane was an evil asshole?
I don't why there's a scrappy doo factor for the kid, that was a child character done right. Instead of being an annoyingly sweet or innocent kid that would be steorotypical, he was pretty much a younger Tony and wasn't handled with kid gloves either (no pun intended).
It was his fault for spending most of his life being a playboy instead of running his fucking company. If he had, he'd have realized Stane's motives much sooner and it's unlikely that he'd have gotten away with selling weapons to terrorists for so long. It's also entirely Tony's fault for holding an experimental weapon demonstration IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING WAR ZONE. He could have found somewhere else to show off the Jericho that didn't endanger his life.
The kid was fine... basically because Tony wasn't having any of his shit, even if he felt alittle bad for him. Because of that, it didn't fall into the usual child actor trap.
The antagonist in 2 exists, is driven by, and only does what he does because Tony exists. AIM's plot in 3 could have been used in any Marvel movie, it was happening with or without Iron Man's involvement.
Stane was still running the company for years before Tony came of age, likely selling weapons to multiple sides the whole time. He didn't make that mess, it would have existed without him being there. It's also questionable if Tony would have picked up on Stane's hidden business dealings much sooner, he's a scientific genius more than a business one. Once Tony switched off the playboy lifestyle after coming back from captivity, Stane still handled him easily in the corporate battelfield, locking Tony out of his own company without Tony even realizing he did it. And then, after Stane was gone, Tony quickly handed off the business side of things to someone else again.
I didn't ask about 2. I asked about 1.
Sorry I get the movie's memorable villains mixed up. Same issue with 2, even worse. Every conflict in Iron Man one only happens because Tony's involved. Heck the most heroic thing he does in Iron Man 1 is stop terrorists which he only does when discovering that they're using his products. He gets somewhat of a pass for having a self-centered conflict for the first one but he's not a heroic character until the end of Avengers.
Nope, like I said, Stane would exist and be a problem regardless of Tony. If Tony had died as a child, Stane would still be selling weapons to terrorists. Howard Stark has more responsibility for that one.
EDIT: Well, that's a nope to every conflict only existing because of Tony. I'd agree he only really becomes a true heroic character in Avengers.
Wait a tick, if you're old enough to remember Marvin and Wendy, you're in Dave and I old territory. Most of this crowd is barely old enough to remember the Wonder Twins.
GasBandit
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I'm 35. Challenge of the Superfriends was still on in reruns in the 80s.
Did they include the first two seasons in that package? The last appearance of W&M was in '76, and that was a rerun.
GasBandit
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I think... one of the alphabet networks (not like there were any other networks back then) got it in syndication or something, and started showing it on saturday mornings. When they got through all the way to the end, they started over again from the beginning (GI Joe used to do the same thing, just looping back to the beginning when they ran out of episodes without any fanfare or notice), and then I was all "who the hell is this dork and his dog? The girl makes me feel funny though."
Marvin and Wendy made a brief appearance in Young Justice too...
That kind of works as both a Harry Potter reference, and also possibly a reverse of the whole "Shakespeare didn't write the plays attributed to him" thing (which is a huge load of horse crap, BTW).
Cajungal
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I have been curious about "A Monster in Paris" ever since it showed up on Netflix. I wish it had been better.
Pros: Pretty music, cool dance scene the giant flea was cute and charming, and there were some slightly funny moments sometimes. Every time Francouer was on screen I was delighted. I love innocent characters who are enchanted by little things (like the sound a comb makes when you "play" the teeth).
Cons: Everything about the characters and their motives felt really surface. The pacing, the order of some events, and the things they chose to focus on weren't always good for the feel of the movie. The villain jumped from being just kind of arrogant and douchey to frightening and dangerous.
I will be listening to the songs again soon...Probably won't bother to rewatch though.
Pros: Pretty music, cool dance scene the giant flea was cute and charming, and there were some slightly funny moments sometimes. Every time Francouer was on screen I was delighted. I love innocent characters who are enchanted by little things (like the sound a comb makes when you "play" the teeth).
Cons: Everything about the characters and their motives felt really surface. The pacing, the order of some events, and the things they chose to focus on weren't always good for the feel of the movie. The villain jumped from being just kind of arrogant and douchey to frightening and dangerous.
I will be listening to the songs again soon...Probably won't bother to rewatch though.
Saw How to Train Your Dragon 2. Way better than the first one, which was already a fantastic movie. I won't say much about it, but I fully expect to see Toothless/Mega Charizard X mash-ups on Tumblr in the next few days.
Spoiler: There are dragons.
You monster.Spoiler: There are dragons.
The books and movies are wildly divergent, by design. So... probably not.
You mean Sky-Taken? I'm pretty sure that movie was called Sky-Taken.
