Out of curiosity, have you had any of Founders' Breakfast or Imperial stouts? Those fit your descriptions pretty well. I'll also have to save a bottle of my Kentucky Breakfast Stout to share with you. If not, you should also give Brewery Vivant's Belgian Dark ale a shot.Beer is a complex beverage. I definitely think it is an acquired taste, as in it takes X number of beers before the enjoyable/likable facets build up to where you start to enjoy it*, where X is smaller for some people than it is for others.
Its complexity also means that it interacts with other foods/flavors/smells in unpredictable ways, so the pairing makes a definite difference.
Try the following example:
-Purchase a bottle of Unibroue's La Fin du Mond at your local establishment (if it's not available where you life...sorry).
-Prepare a serving of some form of sweet pork (pork chops w/apple glaze, glazed ham) or salmon (maple glazed).
-Pour a serving of La Fin du Mond. Taste it. Notice the taste.
-Now take some bites of the meal. Taste the beer again. Notice the difference.
I do have an ideal taste/feel in my head of what a beer I would like would probably taste like, I just haven't found anything yet that matches it. So far, the closest I've come has been with strong, Scotch ales, such as Under the Kilt or Skull Splitter. High ABV, dark malty flavor, mild sweetness.
--Patrick
*Like smoking, only healthier.
Agreed. And the IPA trend is to take an overly hoppy beer and make it even hoppier. I'm waiting for the IPA that's just a can of unbrewed hops.
My liquor cabinet has sooooo many cordials in it, some of which I've had > 15 years.My tastes are kinda like Dave's. I generally only like alcoholic drinks if I can't taste the alcohol. Or it's not the strongest flavor. The only beer I like is Guiness, and I usually sip it, if I finish. But sweet wines, beers with flavors, mixed drinks are my go-to if I'm going to drink, unless I can get a Shirley Temple.
I've seen the Founder's Breakfast, but don't think I've ever tried any. The oatmeal ones have a roastier flavor. I'm guessing I'm not a supertaster, but I do still have certain trigger flavors that I just don't like, like when people assume every caramel-esque flavor has to taste burnt or else it's not authentic.Out of curiosity, have you had any of Founders' Breakfast or Imperial stouts? Those fit your descriptions pretty well. I'll also have to save a bottle of my Kentucky Breakfast Stout to share with you. If not, you should also give Brewery Vivant's Belgian Dark ale a shot.
My grandmother would keep a can of MGD or something similar in her fridge for when she finished her gardening.My dad offered me a cold Shiner Bock. It was the most refreshing thing I'd ever had.
If you get the chance, definitely give both the Breakfast and the Imperial stout a shot. Breakfast stout should be on shelves in a month or so; Imperial stout a few months after that. I'm not a fan of roasted/burnt flavors, but they are absolutely fantastic beers. The Imperial stout in particular is dangerous because it's 10% ABV and does not drink like it.My liquor cabinet has sooooo many cordials in it, some of which I've had > 15 years.
I've seen the Founder's Breakfast, but don't think I've ever tried any. The oatmeal ones have a roastier flavor. I'm guessing I'm not a supertaster, but I do still have certain trigger flavors that I just don't like, like when people assume every caramel-esque flavor has to taste burnt or else it's not authentic.
--Patrick
I've slowly begun changing my opinion on IPAs, but it's difficult because so many places tend to simply make them bitter bombs. A number of places seem to be going towards a trend of more hops flavor/aroma with less pure bitterness (I know when I've brewed my own I FAR prefer this type compared to a lot of commercial IPAs), but it's definitely the beer style I'm least likely to order if I'm unfamiliar with the brand/beer in question.One more thing, I generally dislike IPA. Way too bitter for my taste.
Seconded. If you brew your own beer, it's fun to do "hop bursting"--adding all the hops at the end of the boil. You get a tiny bit of bitterness, and then a ton of the citrus/floral/etc. flavor and aroma from hops.In general, I'm not really a fan of beer. There are a few I like - Pike Brewery's Kilt Lifter Scottish Ale, Full Sail's Sessions Black Lager, Corona or PBR on a hot summer day, Hoegarden, and Leinenkugel's had a good summer Wit (without honey) that I liked - but most beers have too much bitter hoppiness for my taste. I like the citrus notes of some hops and the floral aroma, but once you've boiled all of that out and you're just left with the bitter, I'm done.