Well someone here may possibly have ebola. I say it's the stomach virus that's been going around for the last month. However that isn't stopping the panic and conspiracy theories (Agenda 21? The government is putting it in the water? Really?) from invading the comments on the station's FB page.
The Ebola virus will never satisfy its lust for organ failure and hemorrhage
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Well, now that one hospital clearly botched things up and sent an ebola positive patient home, you can bet every other hospital will avoid that gaffe by going too far in the other direction.
I expect we will start seeing more ebola cases in the US, though, so it isn't a bad thing to be particularly careful.
Still, I don't think we're going to see an outbreak here. Isolated cases, with perhaps a small spread among family and healthcare workers.
What I'm really interested to find out is whether we will be able to save a significant number of those who fall ill in the US. Ebola seems scary because of the high rate of mortality, but that's because it occurs most often in regions with inadequate healthcare and sanitation practices. If, in the US, ebola has a significantly reduced mortality, even down to one in ten (which is still huge by our standards), then the public would breath a sigh of relief, and worry significantly less about it.
Further, the experimental vaccine may pave the way for resolving the issue entirely. It won't be needed in the US, only those areas of the world where natural ebola reservoirs exist (bats in south america are thought to be the main reservoir).
Hey, if you want to start a conspiracy theory, though, here's a beginning: GlaxoSmithKline started developing their ebola vaccine in 2013. But there's not a lot of money in a vaccine that's not needed, and of course they had ebola cultures for their internal use. Further, drug trials are annoying, particularly human drug trials, expecially when you have a drug/vaccine that no one actually needs.
So find a family in the region where ebola is often found who have poor sanitation practices, infect them, and suddenly the WHO appears on your doorstep asking how they can hep you fast track your ebola vaccine.
And because everyone hates big pharma, this conspiracy theory would take off like a rocket.
I expect we will start seeing more ebola cases in the US, though, so it isn't a bad thing to be particularly careful.
Still, I don't think we're going to see an outbreak here. Isolated cases, with perhaps a small spread among family and healthcare workers.
What I'm really interested to find out is whether we will be able to save a significant number of those who fall ill in the US. Ebola seems scary because of the high rate of mortality, but that's because it occurs most often in regions with inadequate healthcare and sanitation practices. If, in the US, ebola has a significantly reduced mortality, even down to one in ten (which is still huge by our standards), then the public would breath a sigh of relief, and worry significantly less about it.
Further, the experimental vaccine may pave the way for resolving the issue entirely. It won't be needed in the US, only those areas of the world where natural ebola reservoirs exist (bats in south america are thought to be the main reservoir).
Hey, if you want to start a conspiracy theory, though, here's a beginning: GlaxoSmithKline started developing their ebola vaccine in 2013. But there's not a lot of money in a vaccine that's not needed, and of course they had ebola cultures for their internal use. Further, drug trials are annoying, particularly human drug trials, expecially when you have a drug/vaccine that no one actually needs.
So find a family in the region where ebola is often found who have poor sanitation practices, infect them, and suddenly the WHO appears on your doorstep asking how they can hep you fast track your ebola vaccine.
And because everyone hates big pharma, this conspiracy theory would take off like a rocket.
Dave
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The funny part is, I spelled it incorrectly but had the right word. When I clicked the spellcheck I hit the wrong one to correct it. So it wasn't exactly autocorrect, but it was kinda.
And here I was joking, but the conspiracy theorists are already coming out of the woodwork:
http://www.naturalnews.com/046946_Ebola_outbreak_vaccines_patents.html#
http://www.naturalnews.com/046946_Ebola_outbreak_vaccines_patents.html#
...wtf did I just read?
Dave
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Stupidity squared.
I'm choosing not to click. I think my life will be happier that way.
This is the latest in HI ebola news -
Yep. Norovirus or severe food poisoning I would bet.
The microbiologist in me does wonder about the seemingly lack of adequate quarantine. I've seen harsher quarantines for TB when I was an undergrad. There certainly is no need for panic in the US/Canada.
The News just loves this stuff though.
The News just loves this stuff though.
Well, my wife has her master's in microbiology so technically this does work.
Then she must be using a strap on!
Looks like a nurse got it in Spain while treating 2 spanish PRIESTS who were flown back from Africa infected by the virus in a hospital that wasn't prepared to contain the virus. They both died of Ebola and the nurse wasn't quarantined as per protocol... in fact... the day AFTER they died she was given time off and was let loose for 7 days before coming back with symptoms of Ebola.
WHAT THE FUCK SPAIN
1. Stop flying people out of Africa to places not fucken prepared for it.
2. Quarantine procedures for everyone.
3. Nurses/Doctors staying quarantined for 30 days after taking care of Ebola patients. Ebola has a max duration of 21 days. Even longer in some men.
4. Religion doesn't stop Ebola, stop sending priests there and more importantly getting them back.
Right now, a ticking timebomb may be in progress in Spain.[DOUBLEPOST=1412638549,1412638510][/DOUBLEPOST]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29514920[DOUBLEPOST=1412639033][/DOUBLEPOST]
WHAT THE FUCK SPAIN
1. Stop flying people out of Africa to places not fucken prepared for it.
2. Quarantine procedures for everyone.
3. Nurses/Doctors staying quarantined for 30 days after taking care of Ebola patients. Ebola has a max duration of 21 days. Even longer in some men.
4. Religion doesn't stop Ebola, stop sending priests there and more importantly getting them back.
Right now, a ticking timebomb may be in progress in Spain.[DOUBLEPOST=1412638549,1412638510][/DOUBLEPOST]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29514920[DOUBLEPOST=1412639033][/DOUBLEPOST]
Ah, the paella fields of southern Spain. Wading waste-deep through the warm, pungent saffron-scented rice.
What the fuck indeed.
Worse even, she got a fever and several days ago (the 30th of september) she asked to be checked for ebola. They didn't test her until the 5th because her fever wasn't high enough, so the protocol said not to test her. Great jorb everyone!
PS.: The priest was a missionary that had been doing hospital work or somesuch for years over there. The repatriation was much discussed, the government was actually pressured into bringing him back. Still, not bringing him back would have avoided the problem, but that's not the point: if you bring him back then do a fucking correct job of keeping Ebola contained.
Dave
Staff member
This is not accurate. Trust me, I'm getting a crash course in ebola care thanks to our local media stirring the pot like fucking morons. (Omaha has a patient in their care.)
There's a new drug called Brincidofovir that is being used and another called Sacra that is taken intravenously. In addition, he is being given an infusion using plasma from a survivor, which has been shown to be effective if not expensive.
So there are treatments available even in the absence of zmapp.
I think it most societies they call this "a vaccine."
Actually, I think it just means he is getting donated antibodies, but as long as it's effective then more power to 'em.
--Patrick
As an employee of big pharma, I must warn you all that you're delving too deep into the rabbit hole. Trust no one.
[DOUBLEPOST=1412792945,1412792867][/DOUBLEPOST]Seriously though. Sometimes it's all I can do but hold in my laughter when I hear crazy pharma/FDA/WHO/CDC conspiracies from acquaintances.
[DOUBLEPOST=1412792945,1412792867][/DOUBLEPOST]Seriously though. Sometimes it's all I can do but hold in my laughter when I hear crazy pharma/FDA/WHO/CDC conspiracies from acquaintances.
GasBandit
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I don't remember Eddie Murphy joking about AIDS, but I do remember him joking about pooping in the tub and having a GI Joe stuck up your ass.