That's true for pretty much every medical show ever, though. I mean, you'd think writers'd know better after 20-odd years of everyone telling them so, but even new series still continue to do that.I love that blog. Every time they shock a flatline I imagine him throwing his hands up in the air shouting "I'm out!"
I just finished Scrubs last night for what I think is the 10th or 11th time. It's still so good.Watching you guys talk about House just makes me want to rewatch Scrubs. I always found it funny that Scrubs is considered the most accurate medical show.
I've watched through Scrubs three times, but couldn't push myself through the first episode of the med school season. JD's leaving is the perfect point to end the series, and with the location changed and half the cast gone, tacking on anything else past that just feels half-hearted.Do you guys include the "new group" season in that rewatching? While not bad, it got cut short, and...well, I dunno. I'm thinking of not watching it next time I rewatch Scrubs
It may have gotten better, but I just don't have enough interest to see.I felt it was okay-ish, and started to get better right about when it got cancelled/stopped. That said, it feels much more like a spin-off then a continuation. Comparing it to Joey instead of Friends makes it good in comparison, sort of But yes, I was wondering - especially with the "the end is perfect" comment
Agreed, I do remember when it first aired, finding it odd that only Jo had any kind of real screen presence. She was one of my favorite things about s8, though.The interns introduced in the last pre-med school season were good characters and also different from the old cast. I would've enjoyed if they'd just done a sequel show with those characters in the hospital and followed them through their residency.
The TV thread is probably not the place for my full-blown ranting thoughts on it, but this essay is a good overview of a myriad of problems Wikipedia has just by its nature. Wikipedia refused to acknowledge Philip Roth explaining that his book wasn't inspired by the life of a man he didn't know, because he's not a secondary source. This article discusses the obvious sexism that Wikipedia has going on in it (to say nothing of the not-so-obvious sexism that emerges from a site predominantly edited by 18-25 year-old males). It talks specifically about the phenomenon of having a page "American Novelists" and "American Women Novelists," but this happens with Nobel prize winners, or any field under the sun.Yeah House was definitely written with a predictable formula--for the medical mystery. But then the show is more a character drama with a medical mystery frame story.[DOUBLEPOST=1425567565,1425567315][/DOUBLEPOST]
Mind if I ask why? 10 years ago, I'd agree, but it's so well curated these days.
You must have watched a different Fringe than I did, especially if season 3 didn't care about continuity.
Wait, seriously? Where did you hear that? Not that I don't believe you. I just want to see it for myself.Watching you guys talk about House just makes me want to rewatch Scrubs. I always found it funny that Scrubs is considered the most accurate medical show.
so is the truth.the other bad thing about wikipedia is that it's filled with liberal lies and slander!
is it hard to be an editor on conservapediaTruth by consensus is an excellent way to describe both wikipedia and liberalism.
It's like working in a fish market. Except you don't have to clean and gut fish all day.is it hard to be an editor on conservapedia
The episode Subject 13 is basically just a huge 'fuck you' to what they established about Olivia and cortexiphan. Over the first two seasons, we learn she was 3 during the trials, and we even see a video of her setting the fire. Then in Subject 13, she's like 11, which means she would totally remember the fact she had the trial -she has an eidetic memory, which just makes it worse, but you would just definitely remember that. She starts the fire, which is stupid because Bell is supposed to be there, as per the video we saw in the first season. Also, Walter specifically says that he is using Betamax but it's a VHS tape in season 1. They just literally, for no reason, did stuff without checking up on their own episodes. Young Peter and Olivia meet, but have no memory of each other later on? Young Olivia tells Peter about her abusive step-father. Later, as adults, when Olivia tells Peter about her abusive step-father, shouldn't he be like, "Hey I once met an Olivia at my father's kid-testing facility -that I had no knowledge of- who was abused by her step-father, what a strange coinci-OH MAN YOU'RE THAT OLIVIA." Either the people writing that show don't give a shit about continuity or they actively hate the viewers.
Also, and this has just annoyed me since episode 1, if they can go into the brain of someone living or dead-within-six-hours to get information, why is that only an option in like 4 other episodes, and not ALL OF THE TIME? They are constantly short of information for one reason or another, just go into someone's fucking brain, even a corpse's.
Season 1 episode 17 said:OLIVIA: Nick? Nick Lane?
NICK LANE: Olive. You heard me. You heard me - you came. You were always the strong one. Whenever I got scared, you could make me feel better. Do you remember, Olive?
OLIVIA: I’m sorry, no, I don't.
NICK LANE: That’s okay. I think they meant for us to forget. I just couldn't.
tl;dr does this guy have a wikipedia article?@fade The first Wikipedia essay I linked to has two follow-up essays by the same guy, that are also excellent, and hold true.
http://www.jjmccullough.com/index.php/2010/10/12/the-trouble-with-wikipedia-part-ii/
http://www.jjmccullough.com/index.php/2011/02/15/the-trouble-with-wikipedia-part-iii/[DOUBLEPOST=1425596993,1425596669][/DOUBLEPOST]Also also, because now I'm on a roll, this, while very funny, highlights something just obviously wrong with Wikipedia: http://citationneeded.tumblr.com/
All you really have to do is google medically accurate TV shows.Wait, seriously? Where did you hear that? Not that I don't believe you. I just want to see it for myself.
That reeks of cop-out to me, especially since other cortexiphan children remember Walter (and usually have angry reactions to him).You prompted me to do some digging. Someone asked one of the lead writers about that back in the day, and he said that those are two different events. Which makes sense in that they really seem to be emphasizing the differences between the two, such as making a point to specify that it's a betamax recording, not VHS. This isn't just forgetting a fact, but specifically saying the opposite, along with Bell not being there and it being a different room in the day care center. They also seem to implied as far back as season 1 that Bell/Walter did something to make them forget about what happened:
That reeks of cop-out to me, especially since other cortexiphan children remember Walter (and usually have angry reactions to him).
It also doesn't explain Peter forgetting. And, Walter threatens the abusive step-dad, but later on Olivia shoots him because he's still abusive. Why didn't Walter follow through? The episode is abysmal and just some BS excuse to have young Olivia have met young Peter so they can be destined for each other since puberty.
If Oliva consistently doesn't remember anything that happened even when the other cortexiphan children (who don't have super memory) do remember bits of it, either something happened to make her lose/block them (which is entirely plausible), or the problem exists regardless of "Subject 13". As for Peter, these events happened around the same time as a lot of things he doesn't remember as an adult (being saved by an observer, the sickness that almost killed him). It's established that Walter experimented on Peter as a child, as well as doing hypnosis that caused him to forget all his dreams until he was 18. Peter's memory is consistently unreliable about his childhood.
There's also no indication that Oliva's father was still abusive to her, she shoots him while he's beating her mom.
Olivia's memory is never thwarted. Even when Waternate fills her mind with Fauxlivia's memories, hers resurface. When William Bell is in her, she rises back to the surface. When the timeline is altered, she preternaturally regains the old timeline Olivia's memories. I refuse to accept that this is the one time it worked. And yes, I would exactly argue that the problem exists regardless of Subject 13, but that that episode is simply the most egregious moment of the show ignoring itself.
All I know of Fringe is that the big plot is pretty obvious to sci-fi or comic fans, and that apparently
Everyone forgets about a magical super gun for over a season because it would be to big of a plot solver.
Given all the other impossibilities that occur within the show, Olivia's memories being absolutely untouchable seems like a odd line to hold onto. She does lose her memory about certain things several other times, even if she eventually remembers them again. I suppose there's also the possibility that it could be Olivia repressing her own memories of the time too, since it overlaps with her abuse at the hands of her father, which would distinguish it from other attempts to mess with her memories because she's doing it to herself.
Of course, you don't have to accept that, if a plot element doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. At least the issue isn't the writers ignoring continuity though, since her failure to remember the trials is a consistent plot point.
I guess I just feel like I'm not holding onto it: the writers are. She remembers everything, every time. So this one time, where we wanted to make an episode with kids, this is stuff she doesn't remember. Which also sort of makes the episode pointless, save for explaining how Walternate found out where Peter was. I will say the eighties-title sequence for Fringe is great, and all of the episodes should have had it.
Her memory failing about the trials, even though someone with a normal memory remembers enough of them to know her, is established even sooner than her more impressive feats with it.Season 1 episode 17 said:BROYLES: Nick Lane's parents died several years ago. Car accident. His lawyer's identity appears to have been falsified. We've repeated our request to Massive Dynamic for information regarding the Cortexiphan protocols. But according to Nina Sharp, the names of the particpants were deleted from the records. And you still have no memory of the trials...
OLIVIA: ...no.
BROYLES: ... or being treated with the drug?
OLIVIA: ...no.
BROYLES: ...but he does?
OLIVIA: Yes.
BROYLES: Why do think that is?
OLIVIA: I don't know.
Yeah, Netflix plays pretty fast and loose with the words "Netflix Original." I'm pretty sure Arrested Development is labelled that way, as is the Killing, even though they were only involved for the final seasons of both shows.Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is the best thing Netflix has ever aired/purchased/distributed (there has gotta be a better way to say that. made? it was made for NBC though technically.........)