Please, the mainline editorial direction has been garbage since Identity Crisis at least. New 52 was a defibrillation attempt.
[Movies] The DC Cinematic Universe - The David Zazlav Dumpster Fire.
There were still some bright spots, at least, like Secret Six, Batwoman, and arguably Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns' respective runs on Batman and Superman. And most of the universe was still MOSTLY generally fun, except for crap like Cry for Justice.
Said bright spots are far and few between these days.
Infinite crisis, the justice League, countdown, post Johns Justice Society.Barry Allen Flash, JMS wonder woman, new Krypton, and Superman denouncing his citizenship.
There's bright spots in the new 52 as well. they just weren't the same books as before, and people would rather bitch and moan online than try something new.
I didn't mind New Krypton, but you're bang on with everything else. And as I'd said before, the only New 52 books I continued to read for any length of time were Animal Man, Swamp Thing, and Batwoman. Now, I just have no interest in anything they're putting out. That might change with this new soft reboot they're doing (Section 8!), but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Which is Vertigo, so I wouldn't count it as a DC book. Subsidiary under DC, yes, but Vertigo is like NXT to WWE: owned by the company, but operates differently in some ways and is run by different people.
Nick, that's why I distinguished between DC title and DC published.
http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/why-comic-book-nerds-hate-batman-vs-superman.php
A pretty good explanation about why comic book nerds didn't like the trailer and aren't excited for the movie. Yes, there are a lot of shots directly from Dark Knight Returns. But without the history and established baggage, those images are meaningless, rather than epic.
A pretty good explanation about why comic book nerds didn't like the trailer and aren't excited for the movie. Yes, there are a lot of shots directly from Dark Knight Returns. But without the history and established baggage, those images are meaningless, rather than epic.
There's also the fact that Dark Knight Returns has not aged well.
It's sad, because I did want to see this movie originally. I was not a fan of Man of Steel, but I at least gave it a shot.
Then I saw the scene of the police kneeling to superman like some god and I just knew my interest was over. Pushing the whole god angle and having Batman sound like a robotic bully just cemented it. I am not going to see this in theater, and I might not even see it on video. I just don't even care anymore. Fuck you Snyder.
Then I saw the scene of the police kneeling to superman like some god and I just knew my interest was over. Pushing the whole god angle and having Batman sound like a robotic bully just cemented it. I am not going to see this in theater, and I might not even see it on video. I just don't even care anymore. Fuck you Snyder.
We don't know those are police. In fact, they look like some sort of paramilitary, with superman symbols on their arm, so are probably the military of some cult that worships him. One that he will likely have to stop.
I'm not saying the movie will be good, that hope went out the window when it was given to Zach Snyder.
I don't think the material will be there.
Are they still doing Batman vs Superman parts 1 and 2, or did they ditch that and just decide to make it one movie?
Are they still doing Batman vs Superman parts 1 and 2, or did they ditch that and just decide to make it one movie?
It could just be a projection of a would-be future; since Bats be paranoid, right?
Maybe he's just worried that he'll try to be world-king. Unless, Supe's psyche is somehow compromised and he's megalomaniac Superman for a portion of the film.
Maybe he's just worried that he'll try to be world-king. Unless, Supe's psyche is somehow compromised and he's megalomaniac Superman for a portion of the film.
AngryJoe had his own prediction about the plot. He bets that a group that worships Superman will go out and commit violent acts to end crime as a kind of tribute to him. That will be what pushes Batman towards confronting Superman.
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The common assertion in the classic batman vs superman argument is "throw him into orbit, done."
He could just yank a limb off.
I don't buy that. If it were that simple, not a single villain would have been able to use Kryptonite against Superman in the past. Its weakening effects must have a pretty large radius for any villain to have been able to use it against him. Otherwise every fight with superman against Lex Luthor would be the same as the comic above.
Also, a fight with Superman vs Batman wouldn't be a fight to the death, no matter what the DC/WB universe says.
Also, a fight with Superman vs Batman wouldn't be a fight to the death, no matter what the DC/WB universe says.
If it were against a Superman with no respect for life or safety, every fight probably would be over that quick. But Superman, being the Big Blue Boyscout (that doesn't snap people's necks, no matter what) purposefully limits himself. Against opponents who aren't demigods like himself, he purposefully limits how fast he moves, how hard he hits, because he knows that using his full force would likely kill someone.
Well, even a single crystal shard of Kryptonite, around 4 inches long, would be immensely larger than any wearable ring so it would have a correspondingly larger area of effect. Even a 5 carat kryptonite ring would have a volume of about .3 cubic centimeters, while said shard would have a volume of around 45 cubic centimeters (assuming it was largely a regular hexagonal prism). That would give the shard 150x the amount of kryptonite, and assumably, 150 times the area of radiation (since rays from the kryptonite are what affect Superman).
Meh. Death ray/heat vision from orbit, game over 
Supe's got such a ridiculous amount of powers depending on incarnation that any fight with him sort of depends on him limiting himself. Super hearing, super intelligence, no sleep, so can barely be surprised and if he isn't, turn one is "move to high orbit". Turn two can be "throw enemy into sun" or "freeze him to death" or even "throw S-signal at them from afar"
Superman's limited by his morals, self-imposed rules, etc. Pretty much the point, no?
Supe's got such a ridiculous amount of powers depending on incarnation that any fight with him sort of depends on him limiting himself. Super hearing, super intelligence, no sleep, so can barely be surprised and if he isn't, turn one is "move to high orbit". Turn two can be "throw enemy into sun" or "freeze him to death" or even "throw S-signal at them from afar" Superman's limited by his morals, self-imposed rules, etc. Pretty much the point, no?
Iron Man for the most part: Super rich, tons of clever gadgets and intelligent systems to help him deal with the baddies. Batman maxed out his combat skills well Tony put his points into engineering and social skills.
It's also basically how Metallo almost wins every time he shows up in JL/JLU/Superman Animated, as he's powered by the stuff.
I feel like the closest analogue in the MCU would be Iron Man. A billionaire that becomes a vigilante, except that Stark is almost an inversion of the Batman character. Captain America is the Superman analogue... he's literally a big blue boyscout. Hell, as far as the movie universes are concerned, he's a better Superman than Superman.
I'd argue Daredevil for the Batman analogue. Both inspire fear in criminals and can deliver pretty bad beatings.
Batman has mystical ninja training, I'd argue they're both enhanced.