The Disney Thread: For Everything Concerning the House of Mouse

Bubble181

Bubble181

filmfanatic said:
seasons 2-4 [...] David Tennant
Click to expand...

Does....not.....compute.... Season 28-30, dammit, bunch of Americans who like to reset stuff when it gets too difficult or too scary :p "oh no, let's not frighten people with a high season number, they think they won't be able to follow". Piffle. ;)
 
Tress

Tress

Bubble181 said:
Does....not.....compute.... Season 28-30, dammit, bunch of Americans who like to reset stuff when it gets too difficult or too scary :p "oh no, let's not frighten people with a high season number, they think they won't be able to follow". Piffle. ;)
Click to expand...
Before 2005 each was referred to as "series", and it wasn't until the 9th Doctor showed up that they called them seasons. So it really is "seasons 2-4."

Silly Europeans, always living in the past and assuming Americans don't know what we're talking about.
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

Tress said:
Before 2005 each was referred to as "series", and it wasn't until the 9th Doctor showed up that they called them seasons. So it really is "seasons 2-4."

Silly Europeans, always living in the past and assuming Americans don't know what we're talking about.
Click to expand...
I was wondering who'd be the dingbat who'd say "they were series before!". A series = a season. It's the Americans who insisted on the rebranding to make it "clear".
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Disney has also released a little animated clip in conjunction with the upcoming Tomorrowland film, showcasing the origins of the mysterious Plus Ultra.



The BioShock vibes are really starting to feel strong after seeing this.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

It has potential. The trailer makes it look like it could be an entertaining movie.
Let's see if they can pull off an entertaining series.

--Patrick
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

Part of the reason Jim Henson made the original Muppet Show was to prove puppets could entertain an adult audience. Before it was a regular series, one of the first specials was title "Sex and Violence". I think they can pull off an "appeal to a wide age range" again, because they never work too blue but they also don't keep things too cutesy just to appeal to kids.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

THAT looks great, Fozzie having a human girlfriend, Piggy being CLEARLY spaced out even for her, and 4th wall Gonzo jokes...I am really scared how they could mess this up.

Feel weirdly weird about Kermit and Piggy breaking up...for the three hundredth time, but it looks funny so whatevs.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

Staff member
ThatNickGuy said:
Well, the original Muppet Show was meant for an older audience. So it sounds like they're returning to form a little.
Click to expand...
I guess it depends on if they mean a return to form, or if they mean that the original wasn't "adult" enough. Because the original Muppet show did appeal to adults, and that's why that line bothers me.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Tomorrowland

...Well, that could have been better. It had a lot of interesting ideas, some great sequences, a nice dash of Disney nostalgia early on, and I fully support a sci-fi movie that takes the stance of believing in the potential of improving the world rather than giving in to self-defeating cynicism, but it squandered its potential. Frankly, it treats Tomorrowland as a mystery for far too long, it takes too long into the film to actually get to Tomorrowland, and they're there they don't realize the full potential of what they have. Seriously, Tomorrowland is an alternate universe secret society where artists and scientists create free of government and corporate control. You could have done a lot with that idea and make a film that, at the very least, could have been like a family-friendly BioShock. Instead, this incredible world's backstory is couched in vague terms and rarely touched upon, then the proper arrival is very late in the film and barely anything is done with it.

So, all in all, not awful but the ideas are wasted and the ending drops the ball. At least the Tomorrowland pin I got for seeing this looks nice.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

filmfanatic said:
. Instead, this incredible world's backstory is couched in vague terms and rarely touched upon, then the proper arrival is very late in the film and barely anything is done with it.
Click to expand...
A lot of this is because they did some ARG stuff about Tomorrowland in the build up to the film... which is the only place they really talk about the history and back-story of the movie and how this all came to be. Honestly, they completely wasted it like that.

Also, the movie is a bit too preachy. You don't NEED to preach that shit, Tomorrowland. You're already showing us what you could accomplish in that kind of world.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

AshburnerX said:
the movie is a bit too preachy. You don't NEED to preach that shit, Tomorrowland. You're already showing us what you could accomplish in that kind of world.
Click to expand...
Hollywood is not about subtlety these days. Otherwise we'd get more stuff like Rear Window.

--Patrick
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

AshburnerX said:
A lot of this is because they did some ARG stuff about Tomorrowland in the build up to the film... which is the only place they really talk about the history and back-story of the movie and how this all came to be. Honestly, they completely wasted it like that.

Also, the movie is a bit too preachy. You don't NEED to preach that shit, Tomorrowland. You're already showing us what you could accomplish in that kind of world.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I checked out some of the ARG stuff. I wish they had actually used that stuff in the film to build up its world rather than just pushing a mystery that took too long to figure out about Tomorrowland, especially considering you see the place early on in the bit about Frank's trip to the World's Fair.

Tell me, are these sort of problems frequent in things that Damon Lindelof writes, because I never really got into Lost but I know there was plenty of hate for what went down with it.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

CynicismKills said:
Well, he did write Prometheus, apparently.
Click to expand...
...That would explain how Prometheus had its own vague approach to the backstory of the Space Jockeys, along with a story affected by stupid character decisions. At least this one didn't feel like it ended in a needless, obvious sequel hook.

it really is a shame, because the idea of Tomorrowland being this parallel dimension society of geniuses is a great concept and way to capture the spirit of the Disney theme park area and the concept is utterly squandered.
 
Eriol

Eriol

AshburnerX said:
Almost certainly because TOMORROWLAND has tanked really hard
Click to expand...
That's too bad, as I heard it was good. I want to go see it, but as I live 2.5 hours from a theatre, it's a bit more than "let's go see a movie tonight!" kind of thing. The opposite of an impulse-evening.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

AshburnerX said:
Almost certainly because TOMORROWLAND has tanked really hard and they were going to use the same director. Personally, I'd be setting up Tomorrowland as a franchise still... as a movie it kind of sucks, but it could be a pretty killer TV show for NBC.
Click to expand...
Why, so they can cancel it after a season? :p
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Eriol said:
That's too bad, as I heard it was good. I want to go see it, but as I live 2.5 hours from a theatre, it's a bit more than "let's go see a movie tonight!" kind of thing. The opposite of an impulse-evening.
Click to expand...
It's actually not very good. It has a good message and the visuals are nice, but it's all very heavy handed and none of the backstory of WHY Tomorrowland exists or how it got the way it is is ever really addressed in the movie (only in the ARG that they did before the movie). They very clearly wanted to do a family friendly version of Bioshock or Atlas Shrugged (but with a positive message), but it completely falls flat.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top