[Contest] Guess when Kim Davis relents and leaves prison!

GasBandit

GasBandit

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The real kicker of it is, as others have said, if she really had a valid religious/moral objection, the proper response would have been to resign her position. But, of course, as we all know, the triple-divorcee adulterous bastard factory doesn't actually have any convictions about the sacred nature of marriage.
 
Sara_2814

Sara_2814

GasBandit said:
The real kicker of it is, as others have said, if she really had a valid religious/moral objection, the proper response would have been to resign her position. But, of course, as we all know, the triple-divorcee adulterous bastard factory doesn't actually have any convictions about the sacred nature of marriage.
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But they're violating her religious freedom to deny other people their constitutional rights! This is apparently a tenet of her religion and must be protected at all costs! Even the cost of other people's constitutional rights!

I do wonder if Mike Huckabee would be rushing to the side of a Christian sheriff who strongly believes in "thou shalt not kill" and therefore refuses to issue handgun permits. Would he still defend a public servant's deeply held religious beliefs overriding the constitutional rights of others? Or would he demand the sheriff resign?
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Sara_2814 said:
But they're violating her religious freedom to deny other people their constitutional rights! This is apparently a tenet of her religion and must be protected at all costs! Even the cost of other people's constitutional rights!

I do wonder if Mike Huckabee would be rushing to the side of a Christian sheriff who strongly believes in "thou shalt not kill" and therefore refuses to issue handgun permits. Would he still defend a public servant's deeply held religious beliefs overriding the constitutional rights of others? Or would he demand the sheriff resign?
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I know you and I are in agreement and you were being sarcastic, but I feel compelled to clarify for the audience at home and for the sake of rhetorical continuity/thoroughness that, even apart from Davis' personal hypocrisy in the matter:

1) The rights of one person end where the rights of another begin.
2) Employment is not a constitutional right, government employment even less so, when you consider the constitution was drafted from a position of distrust of government power. The job is to issue documentation according to the law, not according to your personal beliefs, so if there is a conflict between the job and your beliefs, you quit the job. You don't get to take a job in a supermarket's meat department and then claim religious objections to handling pork.
3) The first amendment does not actually grant license to do whatever one wants so long as it is cloaked in the pretense of "religious practice," civil and criminal law still supercede. Also see George Takei's facebook post above.
4) For the purposes of government involvement, marriage is a secular institution. Biblical definitions of marriage are irrelevant to issuing marriage licenses. Plenty of straight people get married without any religious trappings at all.
 
MindDetective

MindDetective

GasBandit said:
The real kicker of it is, as others have said, if she really had a valid religious/moral objection, the proper response would have been to resign her position. But, of course, as we all know, the triple-divorcee adulterous bastard factory doesn't actually have any convictions about the sacred nature of marriage.
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Well, she is supposedly born-again, which I guess is supposed to nullify any inconsistencies in her past behavior with her current expressed beliefs.
 
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Yeah, I saw a lot of those, but Fabio stood out because of the clever play on the product name.
 
Gruebeard

Gruebeard

How about a picture of our former Prime Minister, Jean Chretien, who ignored the Pope's threat of excommunication when dealing with - I think it was actually gay marriage - and the caption "Believes in God. Still did his fucking job."
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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I blame the anti-iraq war rhetoric for getting the ball rolling on this whole inane thing where you call something you don't agree with "illegal."
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

GasBandit said:
I blame the anti-iraq war rhetoric for getting the ball rolling on this whole inane thing where you call something you don't agree with "illegal."
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It's been going a lot longer than that, with stuff like the Sovereign Citizen movement and the anti-income tax people being the first ones that come to mind. Really, this kind of stuff has been going on since the country was founded, starting all the way with the Whiskey Rebellion.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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AshburnerX said:
It's been going a lot longer than that, with stuff like the Sovereign Citizen movement and the anti-income tax people being the first ones that come to mind. Really, this kind of stuff has been going on since the country was founded, starting all the way with the Whiskey Rebellion.
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Well, yeah, and people have been flavoring things with pumpkin for hundreds of years, too, but there's been a recent resurgence, and I'm of the opinion that it was this particular instance that thrust the practice back to the forefront.
 
Gruebeard

Gruebeard

GasBandit said:
Well, yeah, and people have been flavoring things with pumpkin for hundreds of years, too, but there's been a recent resurgence, and I'm of the opinion that it was this particular instance that thrust the practice back to the forefront.
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Or it's just the instance that made you aware of all the other ones that have always been around, like after I took that Subaru for a test drive I started noticing all the other Subarus on the road. I didn't think anybody around here owned one.
 
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