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I love Del Toro, the ghosts in Crimson Peak were actors with CG touch ups.



Bless Doug Jones' unbelievably skinny frame and willingness to spend decades of his life in a makeup chair.
 
I love Del Toro, the ghosts in Crimson Peak were actors with CG touch ups.



Bless Doug Jones' unbelievably skinny frame and willingness to spend decades of his life in a makeup chair.
This is why Del Toro is good people and it's a crying shame his brilliant work never seems to translate to big box office sales.
 

Zappit

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I don't see that movie succeeding. The GG community, many of which are borderline berserk right now, certainly won't see it. The average person probably doesn't know or even care about the story, and the Quinn supporters, while numerous, aren't numerous enough to make it a major hit. Scarlett Johansson certainly helps push the film if she indeed does sign on, but this one might have limited release all over it.

But my God, the GG folks are absolutely losing their shit over this. It's like reality and parody becoming one and the same.
 
It just sounds like a boring subject for a film.
Agreed. I honestly don't give a fuck about Zoey Quinn's story. Her credentials as a game developer are unimpressive. She definitely doesn't deserve to be constantly threatened with rape, death, humilation, etc - basically everything GG does. She is very good at focusing the spotlight on herself. She's not particularly groundbreaking - she certainly isn't the first female game developer, for example, and Jennifer Hepler was harassed out of the industry before anyone had even heard of ZQ. I don't know her personally and every discussion of her online quickly devolves into a complete shitstorm. So it just seems weird and kind of reeks of self-promotion for her to have a movie.

I could see a movie being made about IonStorm - essentially, an adaptation of "Masters of Doom" - and how the young turks of gaming (John Romero, etc) exemplified the ridiculous, pie in the sky thinking of the dot com bubble era that eventually came crashing down. It's a classic story of hubris. I could see a movie being made about Peter Molynieux and his pathological dishonesty conflicting with his ambitious imagination for pushing gaming in new directions.
 
It could be the next The Social Network (which sounded like a pretty boring topic when announced). Or it could be the next Mommy Dearest, since the story sounds like something that would be made up for Lifetime: "Bitter ex-boyfriend spreads rumors online, over-blown chaos and death-threats ensue."

I'm still ambivalent on Zoe herself, but there's no excuse for the abuse and threats heaped on her. If anything good comes out of this, I'd hope it would be making the average person more aware of seriousness of internet harassment and that if you just "ignore it" or "turn off your computer", it won't go away. We live in an age where anyone can get access to your real life, whether you want them to or not, and these things need to be taken seriously.

Of course, the irony is if anyone had stepped back for a second from the ex's manifesto and said, "Even if that shit is true, she's still a nobody in the industry, so, who cares?", none of this would even be possible. If only there were a way to warn them that all their over-reaction would only help her notoriety, not squash it. If only that advise had been given...
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...nah, can't be it.
 
It's not a matter of whether Quinn or Sarkeesian or any of them are likable or right/wrong or being threatened or not. It's just not interesting subject matter. Person says something, internet gets pissed. Welcome to every single day.

Yeah, one of these could end up as the next Social Network, but that's really going to depend on who's working on it, and I don't see them getting David Fincher or anyone his caliber working on a GamerGate or gamer commentary movie.
 
A historically inaccurate hatchet job written to push a personal agenda?
I meant in terms of box office/general attention, but try to find a drama that isn't. You want accuracy, it's called a documentary (and sometimes, not even then.)
 
Regardless of your biases toward the people involved, it IS an interesting story. Someone went from relative obscurity to being national news and the focus of tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands? millions maybe?) of online posts and thinkpieces. It's a big, life-changing event that's exactly like what usually happens at the end of Act 1 in countless movies. Also Scarlett Johannson is more than an actress, she's a bonafide "movie star", one of the few in Hollywood right now. If she's interested/actually attached, this is happening and getting a budget and at least a big name director/screenwriter.

This is a cool, big deal, and I'm glad she's getting some compensation for all the hell she went through. It could be an incredibly shitty movie, we literally know NOTHING about it other than the barest of bones.

also just throwing in there that The Social Network is the one of the greatest films of the last ~10 years
 
also just throwing in there that The Social Network is the one of the greatest films of the last ~10 years
Man, the last, ~10 years of film's been lousy. :p

But really, the last 10 years of film has been lousy. Shitty, serious remakes of stupid movies like Total Recall that just wind up being garbage, for example.

It may just be that I'm getting old though, since the last 10 years of music's been lousy too.
 
the last 10 years of film has been lousy. .

vehemently disagree

*deep breath*

No Country for Old Men, Her, A Serious Man, There Will Be Blood, Inglourious Basterds, The Wolf of Wall Street, Children of Men, The Departed, The Descendants, Hugo, Zodiac, The Master, The Social Network, Wall-E, Drive, Whiplash, Gravity, Michael Clayton, Slumdog Millionaire, Stranger than Fiction, 12 Years a Slave, Moonrise Kingdom, Revolutionary Road, Atonement, Fantastic Mr. Fox, The Hurt Locker, Milk, Shutter Island, Zero Dark Thirty, Casino Royale, The House of the Devil, Let The Right One In, Rachel Getting MArried, Synecdoche New York, The Tree of Life, Frances Ha, The Last King of Scotland, Magic Mike, Tangled, The To Do List, Up in the Air, Hot Fuzz, The Kids Are All Right, Moneyball, Munich, Spring Breakers, Take Shelter, Winter's Bone, The Wrestler, Adventureland
 
vehemently disagree

*deep breath*

No Country for Old Men, Her, A Serious Man, There Will Be Blood, Inglourious Basterds, The Wolf of Wall Street, Children of Men, The Departed, The Descendants, Hugo, Zodiac, The Master, The Social Network, Wall-E, Drive, Whiplash, Gravity, Michael Clayton, Slumdog Millionaire, Stranger than Fiction, 12 Years a Slave, Moonrise Kingdom, Revolutionary Road, Atonement, Fantastic Mr. Fox, The Hurt Locker, Milk, Shutter Island, Zero Dark Thirty, Casino Royale, The House of the Devil, Let The Right One In, Rachel Getting MArried, Synecdoche New York, The Tree of Life, Frances Ha, The Last King of Scotland, Magic Mike, Tangled, The To Do List, Up in the Air, Hot Fuzz, The Kids Are All Right, Moneyball, Munich, Spring Breakers, Take Shelter, Winter's Bone, The Wrestler, Adventureland
Huh... Wall-E's the only Pixar film you'd list there?

Also... uh... there's another animated film you appear to have let go from your list...
 
If we wanted to talk animated films, I'd have to add...

Kung Fu Panda (a perfect Wuxai film)
Secret of Kells (beautifully animated and told Irish story)
Song of the Sea (from the same studio as Secret of Kells, was snubbed for awards because it wasn't an American or Miyazaki movie)
Ratatouille
Up
The Lego Movie
Persepolis (based on the autobiographical comic, it's a french movie about an Iranian girl who is sent to Europe to avoid the Ayatollah's regime and her life when she comes back)
The Illusionist (French/Scottish movie from creator of the Triplets of Belleville, it's a mostly silent movie about a stage magician, the girl who thinks his magic is real, and the end of vaudeville)
ParaNorman
Coraline

If was the last 15 years, I'd have included a lot more, especially Tokyo Godfathers (my favorite Christmas movie of all time) and the Triplets of Belleville.
 
I meant in terms of box office/general attention, but try to find a drama that isn't. You want accuracy, it's called a documentary (and sometimes, not even then.)
There's inaccuracies to enhance the drama and better focus the themes and what the real story is about, then there completely changing the character of your subject because you're a luddite and can't stand that others aren't. There's a line when you want to capitalize on using real names, especially when people involved are still alive and active. Change the names, with inspired by a true story and there's no issue. See the Awakenings (or don't, that movie is pretty depressing. How about Citizen Kane?).

I have more thoughts on this, and I'd love to continue this conversation, but I hate writing on an onscreen keyboard. So nothing but pointless pithy from me until Monday.[DOUBLEPOST=1446997480,1446997450][/DOUBLEPOST]
He said first 50, not top 50. Those don't mean the same thing.
Touche.
 
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