[Movies] Star Wars The Force Awakens SPOILER THREAD!
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at first I was sad that Han Solo died, but then I was happy that Harrison Ford was free, since it was obvious he really hated to be there 99% of the time he was on screen
Really? I thought he did a great job with it. I know he didn't really like doing Star Wars, but I read his performance as more "alright, this is the last time I'm doing this, so I'm gonna give it my all."
Oh man I forgot about that nurse that was taking care of chewie "Oh wow you were sooo brave" lmao that shit was funny.
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This movie has so many little details and touches in it, people will find something new after every rewatch.
It was probably pointed out elsewhere already but I just realized that the lightsaber Finn and Rey use is the one Luke lost during his fight with Vader.
Yes, it's Anakin's lightsaber, the one taken from him by Obi Wan on Mustafar. That's why Kylo claimed it should be his.
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Or Han Solo now, ehhhh?
Threw that guy to the tentacle monster--I feel like that happened as a purposeful "fuck you" to the whole "Han Solo is a murderer if he shoots Greedo first" thing. I laughed.Loved the movie. Emotions--I had feelings! The characters had feelings! They were people! Real sets! Real acting! Real directing!
The swooping feeling of being in the cockpit, and that chase through Jakku. Rei referring to garbage, and the camera pans to the Millennium Falcon
. So great.I really felt the destruction of the Republic. More actually than I felt the destruction of Alderaan, but maybe that's because I saw the first Star Wars movie when I was 6 and it didn't really hit me that way.
Really want to know who Snoke is and what's his deal.
I thought I'd be pissed if any of the old characters were killed, but Han's death was done so well and I was so into the scene that I was just along for it. That was really the movie--all I wanted was a good time and it gave that in spades. The old characters were done well, the new characters too. Just all around an excellent time.
There were many funny moments in the movie, but the funniest thing in my experience going was after the movie, when a hipster-looking girl outside was telling her friend she was disappointed because there was less CGI than the prequel trilogy.
Adorable moment: when Rei goes into the basement room and opens the wooden chest, the little kids in the audience all started whispering to each other "it's a litesaber" "litesaber" "she found a litesaber". It was really cute.
I was sitting next to three little kids, about 8 years old, who were there with one of the kids moms. Their excitement was palpable, all through the previews that'd get really excited when they thought the movie was starting, and then sad when it was just another preview. I could hear them gasp and laugh and tell that they were all just super into it, and it made me smile.
On the subject of Snoke, it occurs to me that because we only ever see him as a hologram, he could be a wizard of oz type character. We think we know what he looks like, but he could literally be anyone or anything, and simply projecting that image.
I usually hate movie audiences, but this one was a blast, which is especially surprising since it was full of little kids and was sold-out, every seat. My favorite was the middle-aged woman in a Wookie hoodie.
I can totally sympathize with those kids and the trailer sadness. There were so many; it was almost a half-hour after our start time before the movie finally began. AMC usually goes overboard, but it was ridiculous today.
It was nice knowing Voldemort is still getting work after the Harry Potter movies, at least.
Just got home from the movie, read some of the thread (will finish) and seen comments about Rey and Kylo.
Kylo is a scared and unsure young man, Rey an untested youth as well. From the comment I can see Kylo battling within himself about the light and the dark side of the force, "I won't let the light seduce me" is the line I think.
Rey getting good so fast with the lightsaber... she was using LOTS of anger, really tapped more into the dark than the light during the second half of the fight. Her expression was the tell on that.[DOUBLEPOST=1450574458,1450574154][/DOUBLEPOST]Adding...
Rey injured Kylo in the same way that it appears that Snoke is scarred, diagonally across the face.
Kylo is a scared and unsure young man, Rey an untested youth as well. From the comment I can see Kylo battling within himself about the light and the dark side of the force, "I won't let the light seduce me" is the line I think.
Rey getting good so fast with the lightsaber... she was using LOTS of anger, really tapped more into the dark than the light during the second half of the fight. Her expression was the tell on that.[DOUBLEPOST=1450574458,1450574154][/DOUBLEPOST]Adding...
Rey injured Kylo in the same way that it appears that Snoke is scarred, diagonally across the face.
I thoroughly enjoyed it and want to see it again. Midichlorians, Jar-Jar Binks, trade negotiations, and Jake Lloyd's Anakin have joined Scrappy Doo on the island of pop culture items we can completely forget about.
- Now that the Resistance has official backing and is a legitimate power, you'd think they could upgrade their fighter pool. They're still using X-wings from the previous generation. That would be like the US Air Force still relying on F-4 Phantoms.
- When Kylo Ren revealed himself, my first thought was, "he probably gets his clothes from Hot Topic."
- You know that stormtrooper who talks back to Rey before being mind controlled? That's none other than Daniel Craig. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/17/daniel-craig-makes-cameo-star-wars-force-awakens
- Now that the Resistance has official backing and is a legitimate power, you'd think they could upgrade their fighter pool. They're still using X-wings from the previous generation. That would be like the US Air Force still relying on F-4 Phantoms.
- When Kylo Ren revealed himself, my first thought was, "he probably gets his clothes from Hot Topic."
- You know that stormtrooper who talks back to Rey before being mind controlled? That's none other than Daniel Craig. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/17/daniel-craig-makes-cameo-star-wars-force-awakens
Well, they were for the first half of the movie.
That's one thing I don't get it. How can it be a resistance if the Republic is in power and supports it? It seems like The First Order is a renegade group.
I just remembered how godawful the final shot of the movie was. That sort of cheap helicopter tracking shot is something straight out of a CBS Season Finale. TV shit. Bush league, C'mon JJ, you're better than that. This is a Star Wars movie. This ain't your Alias reboot*
*YOU KNOW IT'S COMING
*YOU KNOW IT'S COMING
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Actually there are subtle differences in the engine structure and profile that show these are not exactly the same X-wings as 30 years ago. A quick search on wookieepedia also confirms these are a newer version, designated T-70 instead of T-65B. The most notable visual difference is in the engine "intakes" on the wings and the sharper nose cowling, but another obvious difference is the T-65s did not have a point defense blaster turret for antipersonnel defense while grounded.
It was a love-letter to the the OT, and I am totally fine with that. It's what I wanted the prequels to be - new characters that echo the OT.
I found the new characters a bit more compelling than the old cast, which I am sure that is exactly what Disney wanted.
I got a little misty-eyed when they showed Chewie after Han's death. I kind of wish they would have showed Chewie grieving a bit more, but that's about how much time Luke grieved over Obi-Wan.
The humor was fantastic, and there were so many chuckle moments. I think I laughed the loudest at Chewbacca's "girlfriend" and nurse.
BB-8 was cool. I found it to be slightly gimmicky in the trailer, but ended up liking it and forgot about R2. I am looking forward to their interaction in future films.
My gripes are super minor.
-I thought Harrison Ford's acting was the weakest of the bunch. It wasn't awful, just weaker. Having said that,
-I didn't like seeing that dude from Heroes. I think he's a weak actor. He didn't have much to do here so that was fine.
-Snoke's name threw me off. I didn't know what they were saying. Also, I know he's a hologram, but I thought he looked too CGI'd to me.
I was expecting to dislike the whole movie. I kept telling myself that it's just ok until 1/2 way through, and then I let go out that and had a huge grin on my face for the remainder of the film.
I will make an effort to catch this in the theater again (which is a big deal when you have two kids under two).
I found the new characters a bit more compelling than the old cast, which I am sure that is exactly what Disney wanted.
I got a little misty-eyed when they showed Chewie after Han's death. I kind of wish they would have showed Chewie grieving a bit more, but that's about how much time Luke grieved over Obi-Wan.
The humor was fantastic, and there were so many chuckle moments. I think I laughed the loudest at Chewbacca's "girlfriend" and nurse.
BB-8 was cool. I found it to be slightly gimmicky in the trailer, but ended up liking it and forgot about R2. I am looking forward to their interaction in future films.
My gripes are super minor.
-I thought Harrison Ford's acting was the weakest of the bunch. It wasn't awful, just weaker. Having said that,
-I didn't like seeing that dude from Heroes. I think he's a weak actor. He didn't have much to do here so that was fine.
-Snoke's name threw me off. I didn't know what they were saying. Also, I know he's a hologram, but I thought he looked too CGI'd to me.
I was expecting to dislike the whole movie. I kept telling myself that it's just ok until 1/2 way through, and then I let go out that and had a huge grin on my face for the remainder of the film.
I will make an effort to catch this in the theater again (which is a big deal when you have two kids under two).
My impression is that the Galaxy is split between the Republic and the First Order, with an uneasy peace between the two. While the Resistance is openly fighting the First Order with secret help from the Republic.
100% with you on this. And I loved the direction Abrams took with the character. You get a feel for exactly why he was seduced to the Dark Side - he regards himself as the grandson of one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever, and his lack of ability (perhaps compared to the rest of the Jedi he trained with) and focus made him fearful of living up to that image. Being the son of a non-Jedi (Solo) deepens that fear, and plays a big part in killing his father.When Kylo Ren first took his helmet off, I was massively disappointed. But as the movie progressed, I began to understand... this is not a Sith master, this is not a Darth Vader or General Grievous or even a Darth Maul... this is a scared, confused little boy trying to fill what he imagines to be the shoes of his grandfather, and led astray by Snoke (who, I think it is important to note, is also not referred to as "Darth" even once). This is further reinforced by his tendency to lash out in fits of frustration (ex: trashing the control console with his saber when receiving word of the escaping droid). It made his murder of his father all the more wrenching - it was his moral event horizon.
Also the saber crossguards are still stupid
Haven't seen the movie yet, but since some of the main "spoiler" things were already spoiled for me anyway, I figured, eh, now I want to know the rest as well and read this thread. Oh well.
Anyway, I obviously don't know if it's mentioned or referenced or whatever, but if we already have Vader's grandson...Why could't the other be Palpatine's granddaughter? Having someone from that line be the one to give redemption and so on could be a nice mirror and hammer home the whole "it's your own choices that matter, no matter who your father is, you can be good" motif Luke had going on as well.
Anyway, I obviously don't know if it's mentioned or referenced or whatever, but if we already have Vader's grandson...Why could't the other be Palpatine's granddaughter? Having someone from that line be the one to give redemption and so on could be a nice mirror and hammer home the whole "it's your own choices that matter, no matter who your father is, you can be good" motif Luke had going on as well.
Rey has a very clear vision of Vader and Luke's history, combined with glimpses of her own past, when she first touches Anakin's/Luke's saber, so it's heavily implied she's tied with them somehow.
or it could be that that exact lightsaber was present during some of the most dramatic moments for Luke and Anakin
It very well could be. It could be she was feeling its history, but then she also sees Kylo in that vision, and he has never been near it (that we know of, though he did immediately recognize it)
First thing I thought was, "Is that the love child of Zach Braff and Professor Snape?"[DOUBLEPOST=1450631611,1450631311][/DOUBLEPOST]
OH GOD THIS!!! JJ Abrams, unlike George Lucas, knows how to "show don't tell" a story. I actually give a shit about these characters and their plight. You're not told that Rey and Fin have a budding friendship/relationship, unlike the bullshit forced down your throat between Anakin and Padme.Or Han Solo now, ehhhh?
Loved the movie. Emotions--I had feelings! The characters had feelings! They were people! Real sets! Real acting! Real directing!